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top bopping 🙂
(wait for it......)


 
Posted : 27/09/2011 8:11 am
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That one's doing the rounds on the internet, pretty cool.

I dunno if this "counts" as dubstep but it's one of my favourite tracks right now.

I still find it hard to believe that people actually enjoy Skrillex. It's so terrible, just bad noise with nothing interesting going for it. I feel like an old person saying that but I'm only 22 so probably in the target audience for that sort of music 😆


 
Posted : 27/09/2011 8:18 am
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There are some decent Dubstep tunes, but a lot of it is basically just crap wobble drum and bass slowed down to 138BPM. I used to DJ breaks/dnb out quite a bit, and Dubstep just ruined the scene for me completely. People constantly ****ing on about it being 'the most amazing innovative genre ever - OMG' also put me right off.


 
Posted : 27/09/2011 8:26 am
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With lyrics


 
Posted : 27/09/2011 8:45 am
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I dunno, but recently got a copy of Wu Tang clan meets the Indie Culture - Enter the Dubstep, and that is pretty cool....


 
Posted : 27/09/2011 8:58 am
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I was at the Radio 1 night in Space, Ibiza... Dubstep in the main room, no atmosphere, flat as, proper sh1t!

Deadmau5 was in the other room, smashed it, was rammed totally rocking!

Says it all, dubstep is the hype at the moment, deadmau5 should have been in that main room for sure!


 
Posted : 27/09/2011 10:45 am
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Free album for anyone interested, has Starkey, Burial, Kode9 on it. Whether it is dubstep or not I don't give a poo 😉
http://www.adultswim.com/promos/201109_unclassified/


 
Posted : 27/09/2011 11:51 am
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I was at the Radio 1 night in Space, Ibiza... Dubstep in the main room, no atmosphere, flat as, proper sh1t!

Deadmau5 was in the other room, smashed it, was rammed totally rocking!

Says it all, dubstep is the hype at the moment, deadmau5 should have been in that main room for sure!

yes it does say it all, but i'm pretty sure we think it's saying different things...

liking that adultswim btw. there's a rather good peter van hoesen remix of mount kimbies that i'm liking at the moment. and the new scuba ep, although i can't decide if it's a slightly guilty pleasure.


 
Posted : 27/09/2011 12:23 pm
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There are some decent Dubstep tunes, but a lot of it is basically just crap wobble drum and bass slowed down to 138BPM. I used to DJ breaks/dnb out quite a bit, and Dubstep just ruined the scene for me completely. People constantly ****ing on about it being 'the most amazing innovative genre ever - OMG' also put me right off.

same here... I got a proper slating on page 1 or 2 for saying that... ha ha.


 
Posted : 27/09/2011 12:26 pm
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I dunno, but recently got a copy of Wu Tang clan meets the Indie Culture - Enter the Dubstep, and that is pretty cool....

really!? I'm a MASSIVE wu fan and the first wu meets indie was amazing!


 
Posted : 27/09/2011 12:28 pm
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yes, the Wu meets dubstep album is good. (Wu meets Fugazi "Wugazi" gettit! was awful though)


 
Posted : 27/09/2011 12:46 pm
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my god.... i just sounclouded it.


 
Posted : 27/09/2011 12:55 pm
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yes, the Wu meets dubstep album is good.

Hmmm, some of the vocals are actually not in time with the beats. Very poor imo.


 
Posted : 27/09/2011 1:00 pm
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(I only listened to it once and not in that much anal detail, sounded ok to me 🙂 )


 
Posted : 27/09/2011 1:14 pm
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yes it does say it all, but i'm pretty sure we think it's saying different things...

Well the fact is, one room wasnt full & had no atmosphere at all, the other you could not get in & it was rocking...

What does it say in your eyes other than they got it wrong?


 
Posted : 27/09/2011 1:53 pm
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(I only listened to it once and not in that much anal detail, sounded ok to me )

I only listened to it once and not in much detail, some of it was OK I 'spose, but on some the vocals definitely weren't synced up right.

What does it say in your eyes other than they got it wrong?

Probably means that all the beardstrokers and Ket-heads in the dubstep room were actually having a much better time, it just didn't look like it. 😉


 
Posted : 27/09/2011 1:55 pm
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[i]I was at the Radio 1 night in Space, Ibiza..[/i]

One club, one night, means the whole thing was just hype?
Okeydokey.


 
Posted : 27/09/2011 1:59 pm
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Dubstep has gone the way of Punk and Acid House before it. It's become mainstream, we know this as commercialised anodyne versions hit the charts post-dubstep is where it is at now. In the same way Punk was rediscovered as new wave. The inheritors of the dubstep idea are already up and running. looking to dubstep is like looking at stars. What you're seeing is the signal of something long past.


 
Posted : 27/09/2011 2:12 pm
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Probably means that all the beardstrokers and Ket-heads in the dubstep room were actually having a much better time, it just didn't look like it

I disgree, people were leaving in their droves to get to Deadmau5...


 
Posted : 27/09/2011 2:27 pm
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what it says to me is that radio one listeners prefer deadmau5, not that dubstep is hype. radio 1 basically caters for a commercial scene which deadmau5 well and truly belongs to. they obviously got their programming wrong, but the type of person who goes to a radio 1 event in ibiza is going to want the flashy lights, the big tunes the whatever. Not the urban moodiness.
if they were playing classical music in the main room, would the muted reaction suggest that classical music is all hype?


 
Posted : 27/09/2011 2:29 pm
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[quote=timc]I disgree, people were leaving in their droves to get to Deadmau5...

You're missing the point.... if they're on ket, they could be sat in a corner 'looking' a bit bored.... when they could have having the time of their lives in the own heads.


 
Posted : 27/09/2011 2:36 pm
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I remember drum 'n' bass getting a very similar level of sneeriness when it came out, Malcolm Maclaren describing it as "music for crackheads", etc.

Unfortunately I think dubstep has gone down the same cul-de-sac that drum 'n' bass did, perhaps even faster, where it becomes just another soundtrack to a messy night out, with formulaic tunes that all sound like remixes of each other. As with drum 'n' bass where the more interesting side of it, Reinforced, Photek, Metalheadz etc gave way to tedious formulaic cack like Pendulum.


 
Posted : 27/09/2011 2:37 pm
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Mr Agreeable +1 for that!

The 'golden' age of DnB was 1995/6 to 2003/4. The shite that Pendulum / Chase & Status put out now is shocking compared to LTJ Bukem, Nookie, Technical Itch, Photek....

( If you want a good listen - there's an 'old skool' mix by Loxy @ http://soundcloud.com/loxy_/loxy-old-school-special-dnbtv-may-2010 )


 
Posted : 27/09/2011 2:43 pm
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Actually I don't think the current crop of d'n'b too bad if you're just looking to have a dance. But they seem to have excised all the elements that made it interesting to me - the influences from reggae and sound system culture, the samples and breaks off dusty old records - and replaced them with screechy synths and boring one-two beats, all in the name of having a more polished product.


 
Posted : 27/09/2011 2:53 pm
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But they seem to have excised all the elements that made it interesting to me - the influences from reggae and sound system culture, the samples and breaks off dusty old records - and replaced them with screechy synths and boring one-two beats, all in the name of having a more polished product.

+lots


 
Posted : 27/09/2011 3:25 pm
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You're missing the point.... if they're on ket, they could be sat in a corner 'looking' a bit bored.... when they could have having the time of their lives in the own heads.

No, your missing the point, you are speculating, Im simply stating what was heppening, People wanted to see Deadmau5, he should of been in the main room...


 
Posted : 27/09/2011 4:10 pm
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what it says to me is that radio one listeners prefer deadmau5, not that dubstep is hype. radio 1 basically caters for a commercial scene which deadmau5 well and truly belongs to. they obviously got their programming wrong, but the type of person who goes to a radio 1 event in ibiza is going to want the flashy lights, the big tunes the whatever. Not the urban moodiness.
if they were playing classical music in the main room, would the muted reaction suggest that classical music is all hype?

Interesting, so why did radio 1 have a dubstep room then if it wasnt for their listeners? whilst obviously Deadmau5 is a bigger brand to you average joe clubber, so is the general appeal of his style of music, none of this is surprising...

Classical music in main room, your being pedantic, we can go round the houses, what we both know is, you can tell when the vibe is crap in a room & when it isnt & this was the case.


 
Posted : 27/09/2011 4:18 pm
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A chap at work is seriously in to this. He plays it on his PC and it sounds like every kind of emergency service siren is passing slowly up the road whilst a one-man-band runs to keep up. But then I am very old now.....


 
Posted : 27/09/2011 4:56 pm
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Yeah that's the very bad type of dubstep. The good type is the more subtle relaxed stuff with drums that are actually interesting, and sub bass rather than all midrange screech 🙂


 
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The 'golden' age of DnB was [s]1995/6[/s] 1992 to [s]2003/4[/s] 1997. The shite that Pendulum / Chase & Status put out now is shocking compared to LTJ Bukem, Nookie, Technical Itch, Photek....

Spot on Mr A.

What the hell is Dubstep?

Noisy shite, like dnb became before it. (On the whole although obviously there are exceptions.)


 
Posted : 27/09/2011 5:16 pm
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I dunno, but recently got a copy of Wu Tang clan meets the Indie Culture - Enter the Dubstep, and that is pretty cool....

really!? I'm a MASSIVE wu fan and the first wu meets indie was amazing!

True, the instrumentals is very good as well. Bits of Enter the Dubstep are weak agreed, but much of it is great (IM rather uniformed O)


 
Posted : 27/09/2011 8:15 pm
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it sounds like every kind of emergency service siren is passing slowly up the road whilst a one-man-band runs to keep up

Very much lol at this.. excellent image 🙂


 
Posted : 27/09/2011 10:39 pm
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There are some decent Dubstep tunes

I, coming from a clubbing background, but listening to a lot of music of all genres, have listened to a lot of dubstep lately in an attempt to find something I like, that resonates, that turns me on.

It doesn't, it's boring.

Youth culture is over, which is a tragic shame and probably as big a disaster as global warming.

The banality of house music is probably to blame and it's probably my generation's fault.

Sorry.


 
Posted : 27/09/2011 11:04 pm
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charliemungus hit the nail on the head up there ^

The things that are called dubstep nowadays is sellout garbage that has a flashy new name stuck to it. popstep would be more appropriate than dubstep for most new stuff, but that genre wouldnt sell as many records...

A damn shame.


 
Posted : 27/09/2011 11:40 pm
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It's a shite form of Trance just like drum and bass was.


 
Posted : 27/09/2011 11:48 pm
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When this gets thrown into a mix i dont complain,especially this version. Flame me!


 
Posted : 28/09/2011 12:56 am
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Ah ok so its music that some we like and some won't, wrapped up in a 'genre' so that people can feel special and cool for saying they like that type of music.


 
Posted : 28/09/2011 1:59 am
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It's a shite form of Trance just like drum and bass was.

Wow major lack of musical understanding there. 😕


 
Posted : 28/09/2011 7:19 am
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[i]Wow major lack of [s]musical understanding[/s] [b]a clue[/b] there. [/i] 😆

Fixed!


 
Posted : 28/09/2011 8:21 am
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wrapped up in a 'genre' so that people can feel special and cool for saying they like that type of music.

I think it's less about seeming special and cool, more about defining a mutual interest and finding some common ground in areas which may not use things like artist names as the main frame of reference. But you're right, anyone who likes music you haven't heard of is probably a great big ponce.


 
Posted : 28/09/2011 10:49 am
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Too right. Personally, I only listen to stuff listed on disappearupyourownarsehole.blogspot


 
Posted : 28/09/2011 10:53 am
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Few days late, but got emailed link to Spin's article about
[url= http://www.spin.com/articles/dubstep-101-us-primer?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=092911 ]What is dubstep?[/url]

(no, I didn't ask, you late to threaders, you)


 
Posted : 29/09/2011 2:03 pm
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What are the hardcore dubsteppers opinions on this?:


 
Posted : 13/10/2011 1:31 pm
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This is where it is at.


 
Posted : 13/10/2011 1:35 pm
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I mentioned Nero earlier in this thread didn't I?


 
Posted : 13/10/2011 1:37 pm
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IMHO Anything that appears on UKF is utter w@nk. Dubstep aint dubstep anymore thanks to Skrillex, Borgore & Co.

The sooner this bubble for this shit bursts the better.


 
Posted : 13/10/2011 1:39 pm
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Sweet baby jesus, that Nero tune is me miserable at the moment. Goldie may have been an extra in Eastenders but he never stooped that low.

That said, having had a nose on Soundcloud I'm not convinced it's an utterly worthless genre.

http://soundcloud.com/munk777/we-shall-burn-bright-munk-777


 
Posted : 17/10/2011 3:25 pm
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The term 'Dubstep' has come to cover a massive range of music. I'll admit that I'm not so keen on a lot of newer stuff, but there are still some quality tunes being produced (the Flux remix posted by Deveron53 being one of them). Dubstep for me is more this sort of thing:

[url= http://www.youtube.com/user/backspaceDUBSTEP ][/url]

[url= http://www.youtube.com/user/SubDubstep ][/url]

For the full Dubstep experience, it really needs to be played loud, on a proper set of speakers (so you can fully appreciate the sub bass), whilst you are severely medicated.


 
Posted : 17/10/2011 8:15 pm
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Hi Jamz.
I put the Flux 'Cracks' on as I liked it but didn't understand what the Dubstep genre was.
I must admit, I don't really like most of the stuff posted on this thread! I think I've passed over the magical wall into 'too old' now...


 
Posted : 18/10/2011 10:46 pm
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This is where it is at.

Kind of sums up everything that's wrong with the genre.


 
Posted : 18/10/2011 11:08 pm
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One of the few good artists IMO, but then again maybe not strictly dubstep.


 
Posted : 18/10/2011 11:27 pm
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That UKF killsonik remix is shocking! Cmon. Got to be a pisstake? lol.

A shame Nero is in the title compared to the mj cole remix.


 
Posted : 18/10/2011 11:42 pm
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dubstep is ****ing amazing. Fire up an old modem or phone a fax machine while smashing yourself in the the face with a hammer and you'll get what its all about.
Good stuff.


 
Posted : 19/10/2011 12:01 am
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dubstep is ****ing amazing. Fire up an old modem or phone a fax machine while smashing yourself in the the face with a hammer and you'll get what its all about.
Good stuff.


 
Posted : 19/10/2011 12:03 am
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but you end up repeating yourself when you start smashing your face with a hammer. I`ll choose to die wondering ;O)


 
Posted : 19/10/2011 12:13 am
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dubstep is **** amazing. Fire up an old modem or phone a fax machine while smashing yourself in the the face with a hammer and you'll get what its all about.
Good stuff.


 
Posted : 19/10/2011 12:34 am
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It's the sort of sound that can be heard when all the household appliances in the local currys come to life, after closing time, and get it on.


 
Posted : 19/10/2011 7:00 am
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sounds like a broken hard drive -f@#king garbage!


 
Posted : 19/10/2011 7:47 am
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And you sound like my dad. HTH.


 
Posted : 19/10/2011 7:48 am
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I think the 'hardcore' dubstep has spawned a newer, more commercial version. This happens in all musical genres. There was raw punk and there was commercial punk. There is extreme heavy metal and more commercial metal.


 
Posted : 22/10/2011 1:25 pm
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Another thing occurs to me. Apart from the 'melody' (not everything on here actually has a melody imo) there needs to be 'depth'. A wall of sound with interconnecting levels, moving in harmony. 'Cracks' has it but I haven't really heard this melodic depth in anything else yet. Perhaps Cracks is not really dubstep. Dunno. I like it though!


 
Posted : 22/10/2011 1:33 pm
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This is where it's at in Dubstep right now.....

😯


 
Posted : 29/10/2011 12:24 pm
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oh god, i just threw up a little 🙁

my effort at restoring the balance (had a quick scan through the thread and dont think it was posted before)


 
Posted : 29/10/2011 1:19 pm
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cant do dub step too slow and doesnt roll like dnb/jungle for my taste also doesnt seem to quite have the real depth of sub bass like some jungle etc


 
Posted : 29/10/2011 5:37 pm
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Skrillex is better when covered by a real band:

Or a guy with far too much time on his hands. All of the bass bits sounds like loads of burps. Brilliant!


 
Posted : 19/11/2011 4:17 pm
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Tis shite is what it is. What you need is good old 80's metal


 
Posted : 20/11/2011 5:36 pm
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Dubstep is over - step away from the genre, nothing to see here.

Justin Bieber has revealed he is experimenting with dubstep sounds for his brand new album.

The much loved (and hated) teen star said "I'm about halfway through [my album]. I'm experimenting. What's big right now are beats that are in the clubs, like dubstep. So I want to mess with that stuff, but also stay me."

http://pulseradio.net/articles/2011/11/justin-bieber-dubstep


 
Posted : 22/11/2011 1:12 pm
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Sounds good. When's it out? 😀


 
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