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What telly with decent sound?

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We should like a new 32 inch telly.

Is there a brand that comes with good sound quality? All this talk of sound bars makes me think that the manufacturers don't have sound as a priority.

Obviously you can see a good picture but there's no real way of gauging sound in a great big shop.

If it has the ability of watching apple telly and disney plus that would be good so that we don't have to cast.

Probably £400 tops.


 
Posted : 14/01/2024 7:15 pm
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The trouble with the current fashion for very thin tvs is that it’s very hard to build in decent speakers that can project sound over a decent range and volume with good clarity without some physical depth, especially if you’re going to be up against a wall. <br /><br />So, annoyingly, the answer is “get a soundbar”. 


 
Posted : 14/01/2024 7:20 pm
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Having just had a quick nosey recently, 32 inch is now on the small side so most manufacturers don't seem too bothered about them - which is a shame as I'm liking that size for my small living room space and the amount of TV I watch.
Unsure of it is possible to get a modern TV on the thicker side to hopefully improve sound without a soundbar.

Actually none of that is really helpful, sorry.


 
Posted : 14/01/2024 7:23 pm
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I must say, I'm incredibly impressed with the onboard sound of the LG C2 OLED I have... it's not as good as a full on seperate audiophile system, don't get me wrong, but for a flat-screen, it's very very good, it really raised my eyebrows when I first got it, in a good way.
I like my audio, but I'd even go as far as to say you don't really need any audio addons with these...but you are looking twice your budget really, but for that you also get OLED, Dolby atmos, proper HDR, 120hz,  etc.


 
Posted : 14/01/2024 7:30 pm
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I must say, I’m incredibly impressed with the onboard sound of LG C2 OLED I have

Academic I suppose given the op's criteria but I agree, it's the only flat screen TV we've ever owned that genuinely has superb sound. We have the C1 but the statement holds true.


 
Posted : 14/01/2024 7:34 pm
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The sound from our Samsung 55" is really good, but it's a few years old now and I don't know if all Samsung's are made equal.

I have a Yamaha AV amp and Kef 5.1 speakers, but only turn them on for big films the telly speakers are that good


 
Posted : 14/01/2024 7:34 pm
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Go back in time 40 years and get a CRT in a wooden enclosure, sounded epic. Picture will be crap tho.
I’d just go with a sound bar type thing these days. Modern sound crap for the aforementioned reasons.


 
Posted : 14/01/2024 7:42 pm
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I have a Yamaha AV amp and Kef 5.1 speakers, but only turn them on for big films the telly speakers are that good

Yeah same here with my LG , I have a Tangent class D 'mini' amp hooked up to some Tannoy bookshelf speakers and a 10" active sub for when I really want to 'blast it' but I'm finding I'm not powering that side of the system on very frequently these days for TV/movies, unless I'm watching Blade runner 2042 or something like that.

I do use the external amp and speakers for music though, be that from the telly, the PC or streaming from a mobile phone.


 
Posted : 14/01/2024 7:46 pm
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We chose our Sony on the basis of decent sound quality. Because of where the TV sits in our room, we can’t have a soundbar and I find them a bit overpowering. <br /><br />
The Sony uses the entire screen to generate bass so you get really good sound without the need for a soundbar. <br /><br />
We have been very happy with it and haven’t had a Sony for years after some mediocre experiences for the money. <br /><br />
Richer Sounds is a great place to go and try a few and their prices are always good. Good advice generally and if you tell them specifically you are looking for good sound they generally know their stuff and will point you in the right direction.  Good after sales too.


 
Posted : 14/01/2024 7:46 pm
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Richer Sounds is a great place to go and try a few and their prices are always good.

Free extended warranties I think too ala John Lewis.


 
Posted : 14/01/2024 7:49 pm
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I’d just go with a sound bar type thing these days.

Don't do that...if you have the space, get these:

https://www.richersounds.com/tangent-ampster-bt-mkii.html

https://www.richersounds.com/wharfedale-diamond-220-blk.html

https://www.richersounds.com/cambridge-audio-sx120-matt-black.html

😀


 
Posted : 14/01/2024 7:52 pm
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We have a Sony TV with active surface audio+ which is where the screen is the speaker and seems to get reviewed as the best sound without a soundbar but will be triple or quadruple your budget and a bigger TV.


 
Posted : 14/01/2024 7:59 pm
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Actually I think ours is a 42 inch and it was the smallest one available with the active screen.

Things might have changed now, but I would still recommend Richer Sounds as a good starting place.


 
Posted : 14/01/2024 8:04 pm
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Go back in time 40 years and get a CRT in a wooden enclosure, sounded epic. Picture will be crap tho.

Ah yes! Those mono speakers were amazing. 


 
Posted : 14/01/2024 8:07 pm
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Haven’t priced it up recently but our tv is a refurb dell monitor, Apple TV and HomePod and cost less than £400 a few years ago. It’s not great if you watch lots of broadcast tv but it’s superb for streaming. Perhaps worth a look.


 
Posted : 14/01/2024 8:10 pm
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Next door neighbours had a massive (relatively speaking for the day)stereo tv, possibly Sony.
I suppose it’s rose tinted specs as ours was crap and needed constant re tuning.


 
Posted : 14/01/2024 8:13 pm
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Stereo Sony it was probably a Triniton, don’t think they introduced stereo ones until the 90s.


 
Posted : 14/01/2024 8:35 pm
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Ok sorry, 35 years ago


 
Posted : 14/01/2024 8:49 pm
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Why so small, is space a premium?

Stereo Sony it was probably a Triniton, don’t think they introduced stereo ones until the 90s.

NICAM stereo was early 90s, yes.


 
Posted : 14/01/2024 8:52 pm
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Stereo tellies were first introduced in the uk in 1982 (I was surprised by this)
The first nicam stereo terrestrial uk broadcast was 1986


 
Posted : 14/01/2024 8:52 pm
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They may have been earlier but UK stereo broadcast I don’t think was until the 90s, so no benefit.

Anyway you’re not going to get great sound quality from a cheap LED tv.


 
Posted : 14/01/2024 8:53 pm
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Stereo tellies were first introduced in the uk in 1982 (I was surprised by this)
The first nicam stereo terrestrial uk broadcast was 1986

Sounds about right, so to speak. I was equally as surprised by how early mobile phones were a thing.


 
Posted : 14/01/2024 9:09 pm
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We've a decade or mor old Panasonic VIERA. It's chunky, at least 5-6cm thicc. It was £100 on Gumtree.
It's got great sound and picture.


 
Posted : 14/01/2024 9:37 pm
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The LG OLEDs have OK sound because they’re super thin up in the top corners but rather chunky further down. I love ours but if it was wall mounted close to the wall it’s far from flush.

Soundbar improved the sound massively. Pick the £300 TV you like the picture on and spend the rest on a soundbar.


 
Posted : 14/01/2024 9:49 pm
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We’ve a decade or mor old Panasonic VIERA. It’s chunky, at least 5-6cm thicc. It was £100 on Gumtree.
It’s got great sound and picture

That's what we've got!


 
Posted : 14/01/2024 9:50 pm
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Stereo tellies were first introduced in the uk in 1982 (I was surprised by this)
The first nicam stereo terrestrial uk broadcast was 1986

Bloody hell I thought both were much later.


 
Posted : 14/01/2024 10:09 pm
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Stereo tellies were first introduced in the uk in 1982 (I was surprised by this)
The first nicam stereo terrestrial uk broadcast was 1986

I was at and video engineer back then. I remember being amazed at sets having stereo sound. Lol

The pace of change in AV equipment was so slow back then. The idea of a manufacturer launching measurably improved TV sets every year, year on year, would have seemed utterly ridiculous. How things have changed and not entirely for the better in some ways.


 
Posted : 14/01/2024 10:18 pm
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The LG OLEDs have OK sound because they’re super thin up in the top corners but rather chunky further down.

But how thicc is your sound bar?
Just for the shits and giggles I've just measured my LG,
The screen part is about 0.5cm, and the business part about 6cm thicc, don't forget as well as speakers, there's a essentially a small quad core mini PC built into the thing....it's just not really possible to make the screen thinner unless you have a remote screen plugged into a larger control box of some kind.
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Posted : 14/01/2024 10:53 pm
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To add to this thread - we've just been at a holiday cottage for the weekend. It had a cheapy Logik TV.
Oh my word I've not heard such poor sound and poor picture. Really really awful - but thin....


 
Posted : 15/01/2024 8:09 am

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