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been looking for a small knife of some description. Swiss army knives were the done thing when I was much younger but not sure I need all the gubbins (although the Spartan is catching my eye).

Opinel look nice an relatively cheap but I've read mixed reviews.

What's in your toolbox?


 
Posted : 08/01/2012 5:18 pm
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Opinel cheap and cheerful 😉

Picking my nails with one now..


 
Posted : 08/01/2012 5:19 pm
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Swiss Rambler and Huntsman for me.


 
Posted : 08/01/2012 5:20 pm
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No experience of them, but they look quite nice..

http://www.spyderco.com/


 
Posted : 08/01/2012 5:27 pm
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CRKT Edgie if you're not good at sharpening - nice and easy, sharpens itself, legal carry.

or British army penknife (with or without the rope splice) as long as you get proper UK made non-locking "oil the joints" one

You really son't need anything fancier.


 
Posted : 08/01/2012 5:30 pm
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I've got a little tiny Spyderco knife, nice bit of kit.


 
Posted : 08/01/2012 5:32 pm
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I've got about 3 Opinels I've had for must be at least 20 years for the eldest and they've been excellent.

Swiss Army style I have 2 Gerber suspensions which are also brilliant, one I use at work for various things that crop up needing a handy tool and it's never failed me.


 
Posted : 08/01/2012 5:33 pm
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opinel + 1

whittlin' wi' one now 😉


 
Posted : 08/01/2012 5:34 pm
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Posted : 08/01/2012 5:36 pm
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Swis army the simple one two blades bottle opener can opener corkscrew and spike plus tooth pick and tweezers . Had one since I was 10th never needed anything else.


 
Posted : 08/01/2012 5:38 pm
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I have a Opinel and yes they are good knifes and it is always in my pocket

We were at a market in Nontron in france and a guy on a cheese stall had a #13 inox knife ( with a 9" blade) waving it around whilst talking silly size knife but the wife wants one now for her cheese board 🙄

If you want a knife of real beauty do a google search for [u]Nontron knifes [/u]


 
Posted : 08/01/2012 5:40 pm
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opinel no 10 carbone here.
nice simple knife.

I've also got kj erikson roe knife. lovely edged blade.


 
Posted : 08/01/2012 5:50 pm
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http://www.mindyourfingers.co.uk/P4102.html
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Spyderco Squeak slipit. Non-locking and under three inch blade, so UK legal. The knife is designed so that holding it has the effect of stopping the blade folding up on your fingers. Excellent knives, Spyderco, I've got quite a few of various designs, not all legal to carry in public, mind.


 
Posted : 08/01/2012 6:02 pm
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Sorry to contradict you Zulu-Eleven but the issued clasp knife is a pile of warm and brown. It is a very cheap bit of kit and it shows.

To the OP, what is the intended use of the knife, just general duties or are you thinking more along the lines of making the late night news?


 
Posted : 08/01/2012 6:03 pm
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Don't forget that opinel fall foul of the locking knives rule 🙁

also being high carbon steel, if you're looking for one to keep in your bah, its not unusual to pull out of your bag and find it rusty...


 
Posted : 08/01/2012 6:03 pm
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Don't forget that opinel fall foul of the locking knives rule

genuine question WHY ? What are the dumb arse rules nowadays I always have a 4" opinel in my pocket so am I in the poo??

Agreed about the rust issue btw


 
Posted : 08/01/2012 6:08 pm
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the rules require justification to carry. So if it's a work knife, or you're out back packing etc then Id say you wouldnt have a problem.

Popping into Cinderellas for a boogie with one on the other hand would be a problem.

The law simply changed the innocent until proven guilty bit around


 
Posted : 08/01/2012 6:11 pm
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[url= http://www.heinnie.com/ ]heinne Knives[/url]Take a google over to Hennie knife and tool website.
Me a big fan of CRKT products. I have had the KISS pocket knife and now carry the PECK which is a gloriously useful and cheap pocket knife/money clip.
The UK policy on pocket knivies is tied up with "purpose".


 
Posted : 08/01/2012 6:15 pm
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All knifes are illegal to carry without good cause apart from small folding ones for which there is no need to show good cause.

I have a 4" opinal locking knife and a 3" locking cavalier knife,

The opinal has a nice blade but the cavalier has a better locking mech and its better made


 
Posted : 08/01/2012 6:17 pm
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I have a Opinel and yes they are good knifes and it is always in my pocket

We were at a market in Nontron in france and a guy on a cheese stall had a #13 inox knife ( with a 9" blade) waving it around whilst talking silly size knife but the wife wants one now for her cheese board

If you want a knife of real beauty do a google search for Nontron knifes

....Plus, the great thing with Opinels is that they hold an edge...Very Sharp....Nontron Knives, as salad says are superb.


 
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...Plus the great thing with Opinels is if they lose an edge, you can sharpen it on just about anything 😉


 
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Sorry to contradict you Zulu-Eleven but the issued clasp knife is a pile of warm and brown. It is a very cheap bit of kit and it shows.

I think there were a few different batches around - the older, better rogers made ones were made of very good steel, held an edge very well, and I've done everything you could possibly expect from a pocket knife with them. I think my issued one was dated '68 till I lost it, and the sheffield made civvi one I got seems to be as good.

I think some of the other newer batches may have been a lot lower quality.


 
Posted : 08/01/2012 6:27 pm
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I have a 4" opinal locking knife and a 3" locking cavalier knife,

Violent fantasist.

🙂


 
Posted : 08/01/2012 6:29 pm
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i do like my CRKT M16 (clean edged tanto shape)
but it is a vicious looking thing, so there would be no excuses officer.

I prefer leatherman type to Swiss army myself, the pliers are mighty useful. mine is a squirt.

small but horrifically sharp little blade

flat screw driver
philips screwdriver
mini flat screw driver
wire cutters
pliers
file
awl.

ive never understood the point of them, but since i got it, the awl is the most useful bit!
turns out I often need a "sharp pointy"

I find if it is great for little fiddle jobs, and if it cant hack it, i go and find a tool box rather than over work it.

do quite fancy complimenting it with a monster one though, one that can hack 90% of jobs.


 
Posted : 08/01/2012 6:30 pm
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For knife fans the Nontron ( Dordogne, france) knife fair is well worth a visit in august


 
Posted : 08/01/2012 6:36 pm
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Leatherman worn in leather belt patch never leaves me.

And never gets used!

Came over all Ray Mears


 
Posted : 08/01/2012 7:12 pm
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For those who have issues with the carrying of any kind of knife, I sometimes carry one of these:

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I think some might take a pretty dim view of it, and I'm very careful where I carry it, but for hacking back blackthorn, bramble and rose briars along country cycle paths, nothing else comes close. It will cut up to a half inch thick rose or bramble in one or two cuts, and even blackthorn up to fifteen/twenty mil with a bit of sawing. Better yet, it's a special Japanese steel that doesn't rust, the knife's designed for trawlermen to cut thick ropes at sea. Yummy.


 
Posted : 08/01/2012 7:27 pm
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isnt that a blade lock on the back of the handle though CZ?


 
Posted : 08/01/2012 7:29 pm
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I carry one of these and I've found that there's not a lot it can't handle. That said, it's probably a bit of an overkill for what you're after!


 
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[url= http://http://boyeknives.com/folders.cfm#marlinspike ]Boat knife[/url] have one of these and a couple of other probably not entirely legal lock knives, but then for my other activities I tend to need them quite often and at work. Come to think of it about the only time you don't need a knife is on a bike.


 
Posted : 08/01/2012 8:02 pm
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Stoner, no, it's a black painted titanium belt or pocket clip. The lock is the silver cut-out half-way along the spine. The absolute last thing you'd want is that blade closing up on your fingers. It is very sharp, and the serrated SpyderEdge
just adds to its cutting power. Terrific knife, great for slicing through zip-ties, too.
I have an almost identical one, but much smaller, that I carry on my keyring, called a Ladybug Hawksbill Salt. Very useful as well.

Come to think of it about the only time you don't need a knife is on a bike.

That's often when I need one, particularly the Tasman; I look after a section of Sustrans cycle route, and having it when I'm out for an evening ride is often when I find overgrowing thorny stuff that needs quickly hacking back.


 
Posted : 08/01/2012 8:11 pm
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yep, that silver bit was what I meant.

Sorry, what I was getting at was youre reference to: " issues with the carrying of any kind of knife".

that one is still technically "illegal" as it has a locking mech.


 
Posted : 08/01/2012 8:14 pm
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Come to think of it about the only time you don't need a knife is on a bike.

I disagree. I've used mine many, many times on rides.


 
Posted : 08/01/2012 8:15 pm
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Used a knife on rides? apart from preparing my picnic I never have nor can I think what you would use one for


 
Posted : 08/01/2012 8:17 pm
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Medical. Mechanical. Clothing repairs. Beer opening. Removing thorns. Etc. Etc. Etc.


 
Posted : 08/01/2012 8:18 pm
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Sorry, Stoner, my misunderstanding. You're right, but the length of the blade is over the permitted length, too. I'm very circumspect in my carrying it, but it's just too damn useful when I'm out and about.


 
Posted : 08/01/2012 8:19 pm
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steady-on CFH. You're disagreeing with Mr alwaysright 🙄


 
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I've got an Opinel No.6 which I've had for about 16 years - not sure how old it is as it was 'acquired' from somewhere... but it's still going strong. There's just something nice about it's simplicity and cheapness.
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I've bought a few knives from [url= http://www.heinnie.com/ ]Heinnie[/url] as presents and their service is good, even if their website isn't.
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Recently bought a Boker and a Gerber which are really nice quality and not silly-money.


 
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Oh yes, silly me. What was I thinking?


 
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I have a Leatherman Micra on my car keys, probably use it almost everyday for one thing or another.
I also have a slightly larger Leatherman multi-tool in my riding pack, the pliers are pretty handy.


 
Posted : 08/01/2012 8:29 pm
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I too have a Leatherman Micra and think it's great!
Even so I have just ordered a Spyderco Honeybee for £8.95, for when I want a really lightweight knife. It only weighs 15 grams (yes I know the Bug is only 12 grams, but this looks a slightly more useable size for the tiny extra weight) 🙂


 
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Gerber Suspension, top bit of kit. I'm never without it, but then I do have some pretty violent fantasies. 😈


 
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Used a knife on rides? apart from preparing my picnic I never have nor can I think what you would use one for

Well, seeing as where you ride there's bugger-all by way of anything like hedges or anything like that, it's understandable, but as I've already said in this thread I look after a section of Sustrans route running along an old railway line, with high hedges and trees all the way along, brambles and rose briars grow up through the hedges and trees, along the branches, then dangle down right in the path riders and walkers use.
Now, I would guess you've never had six feet of six millimetre thick thorny bramble drag itself right across your face, seeing as how you're mister invincible, but it's deeply unpleasant and very painful, not to mention carrying the risk of damage to the eyes. That's why I carry a knife, to cut the damn stuff back. There have been occasions I've gone out for a short evening ride in early summer, and spent two hours cutting back thorn branches on a section about a mile and a half long.
Then done the same the following week.
I could use secateurs, but they're heavy and bulky, and a hawksbill blade just slices straight through.
So just because the only use [b]you[/b] have for a knife is spreading butter on your toasted teacake, others of us do have a regular, genuine use that you seem to fail to recognise.


 
Posted : 08/01/2012 9:37 pm
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CZ, come on now! You know he's ALWAYS right. About everything.

Therefore your own experiences are irrelevant.


 
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I often use a SOG Powerplier:

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It's one of the few decent-sized multitools that is legal to carry, and the geared pliers are fantastically powerful.


 
Posted : 08/01/2012 9:45 pm
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A folding [url= http://www.laguiole-attitude.com/fr/couteau-pliant ]Laguiole [/url] is legal in you pocket in most countries. In France it's an "arme de 6e catégorie" which isn't a weapon unless used as such if you see what I mean.

I also have stainless Opinel which doesn't rust but stays in the kitchen drawer as it is illegal.


 
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Get the carbon steel Opinel.
It locks well with an almost indestructable mechanism.
It's carbon steel so it'll hold a fine edge and the back edge is perfect for drawing against a fire steel.
It has a wooden handle that is comfy to use
no serrations, so it's easy to sharpen etc.
Good build quality.

I have one that I bought 20 years ago. It has been hiking all round the world with me and never let me down.


 
Posted : 08/01/2012 9:57 pm
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you can get a non-locking Opinel if you're paranoid about having a locking one


 
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I have to say I wasn't thinking of pruning stuff with a small folding knife - If I was doing that I would prefer the right tools.

Still would like to know what medical use CFH has for his.


 
Posted : 08/01/2012 9:59 pm
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sassenachiotomy


 
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Why would you be paranoid about a locking mechanism?

On the Opinel it's a collar that you manually slide round the knife so you have to purposefully lock it and no amount of back-pressure will fold it. Best folding knife on the market by a very, very long way.


 
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Why would you be paranoid about a locking mechanism?

the legality of one.


 
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I recently removed a splinter from my foot that had been in there for a week with an Opinel.

EDIT: what Stoner said


 
Posted : 08/01/2012 10:04 pm
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I've cut bandages with them. I've removed splinters etc from people with them. Ive cut down zipties to hold bones together and I've even whittled a splint with them.


 
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CFH - there really is no need to be so abusive.


 
Posted : 08/01/2012 10:05 pm
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TJ, there really no need to be so argumentative. So constantly "right" about everything.

Hasn't stopped you, though, has it?


 
Posted : 08/01/2012 10:07 pm
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try reading my posts on this thread..

Not argumentative, not "Always right" I did not say anyone else was wrong

You are well out of order.


 
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the legality of one.

[i]really?![/i]

IIRC it's the blade length that's a problem? Or has the law changed?

Curious as I also cary a somewhat larger fixed knife on the longer hiking trips I do. I'd be interested in seeing the chapter and verse if anyone has it?


 
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ontor - it is illegal to carry any knife without good cause. there is an exception for small folding knifes - you do not have to show good cause to carry one.

Any locking knife or non folding knife yo need a good reason to have on you


 
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ontor:

http://www.goxplore.net/guides/Knife_law_(UK)

as I said earlier, the burden of proof is effectively reversed by the Criminal Justice Act when it comes to knives.


 
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Possession of Blades/Points

Section 139 of the Criminal Justice Act 1988 prohibits the possession in a public place of any article which has a blade or is sharply pointed, (including a folding pocket knife if the cutting edge of its blade exceeds 7.62cm/3 inches) (Archbold 24-125).

Section 139A of the 1988 Act extends the geographical scope of both of the above offences to school premises.

For the purposes of sections 139 and 139A of the Act:

a butterknife, with no cutting edge and no point is a bladed article; (Booker v DPP 169J.P. 368, DC);
a screwdriver is not a bladed article; (R v Davis [1998] Crim L.R. 564 CA);
a "lock knife" does not come into the category of "folding pocket knife" because it is not immediately foldable at all times; (R v Deegan [1998] 2 Cr. App. R. 121 CA).

from [url= http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/l_to_o/offensive_weapons_knives_bladed_and_pointed_articles/ ]here[/url]


 
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try reading my posts on this thread.

people do read your posts TJ, and that's exactly why you get the responses you do. Either you are being deliberately contrarian or you have some kind of textual autism.

If you have trouble framing your posts with any of the normal contextual phrases indicating some faint hint of humility then can I suggest some kind of mandatory post sig for you. Something like:

Everything Ive said above may sound like an imperative or absolute but actually I just cant be arsed to type "in my experience" or "Ive found that" or, "depending on your circumstances you might find that" etc


 
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Cheers Stoner
this bit;
"A Crown Court case (Harris v DPP), ruled (case law). A lock knife for all legal purposes, is the same as a fixed blade knife. A folding pocket knife must be readily foldable at all times. If it has a mechanism that prevents folding, it's a lock knife (or for legal purposes, a fixed blade) The Court of Appeal (REGINA - v - DESMOND GARCIA DEEGAN 1998) upheld the Harris ruling stating that "folding was held to mean non-locking". No leave to appeal was granted."

Is new, surprising, and slightly saddening to me but despite always living in somewhat rural places, I can understand the issues.

Thanks
OT


 
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I grew up on farms and always carried a lock knife - was always the safer knife to use than a readily folding blade.

I think the interpretation Id use is: dont take a knife into town, and if you have your lock knife on you in the sticks dont have it on you when you expect the fuzz to pay a visit 😉


 
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Careful, Stoner! He's hovering over the button.......


 
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Stoner - the only post on this thread that is at all contrary. Note the use of "I"

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Used a knife on rides? apart from preparing my picnic [b]I[/b] never have nor [b]can I think[/b] what you would use one for

Then CFH and others jump down my throat in a frankly abusive and OTT way. No need at all for the level of unpleasantness from him and others.


 
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nor can I think what

oh, you're pleading lack of imagination are you?


 
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I grew up on farms and always carried a lock knife - was always the safer knife to use than a readily folding blade.

I think the interpretation Id use is: dont take a knife into town, and if you have your lock knife on you in the sticks dont have it on you when you expect the fuzz to pay a visit

to be fair, this is what I've always done as common sense really.

At risk of joining an internet argument, I've used mine for all sorts. Not least of which have included; cutting a garrote wire strung across a trail, cutting clothes/bags off people after accidents, cutting and forging a sling for someone on here that broke their shoulder and thumb at the quarry on leith hill..


 
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TJ, I wouldn't use a small folding knife for pruning either, that's why I use the Tasman, it's a trawlerman's knife, with a blade around the same length as a pruning knife:
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Not exactly small.
A Squeak would be almost useless; it's blade is only around 2".


 
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Used a knife on rides? apart from preparing my picnic I never have nor can I think what you would use one for

I always have a 3" lock bladed Swiss army knife in my Camel Bak and its been used many times on rides.
Cutting bandages, zip ties, cutting an old tube up to repair a big hole in the tire side wall, emergency repair on a hydraulic hose...


 
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