[Closed] What is the Brompton of the Leccy Scooter World?

Nobody? Electric scooters are the enemy of the people i know...but...

Imagine no scooter at all. Stick in a limbo land. That will be EXACTLY like Edukator's new Brompton.

What about the leccy conversion kit for the Brompton, or can you not pedal at all with the injury?

Nobody?

Its not a case of 'nobody' replying, we just dont see the posting until you bump it.

Mine asking about starbike sat hidden, appearing only on my profile, but it hadnt appeared on the board till i bumped it an entire day later.

Brompton offerings are also £££££

Have been thinking myself a bit about this recently. Notwithstanding the legality issue it is clear that the demand for these things is growing. I haven’t done the research but I suspect there isn’t really a Brompton as such in this market at the moment ie a product developed over a prolonged period of time, with a proven record and known pros and cons. I’m guessing if there was one it would be at the £2k end..

I know it's pedantic, but are you expecting to avoid near misses on the electric scooter, or just reduce them as you are on the train for longer? I think I answered my own question there!

I know someone with one and she loved it, I can't for the life of me think of the brand though, it was black and red but that's not helpful!

Notwithstanding the legality issue

Problem is that if you plan to take it on the road (or pavement) then the legality issue is worth considering. I'm sure the law will be changed soon, though

I'd buy an electric Brompton for that. Madame's new pedal-powered one is due in Bayonne on Friday. That's only a month it's been lost, in customs, back and forth through France and UK. Miraculously it escaped the notorious Carbon Blanc logistics platform but has to go back through it today. I'm keeping the faith. And yes they are a bit pricy but they are brazed up in London town rather than Taiwan.

Problem is that if you plan to take it on the road (or pavement) then the legality issue is worth considering. I’m sure the law will be changed soon, though

Yeah, there's a rentable option in Cambridge at the moment that one of the Mayoral candidates was advertising the other day, it seems if they are part of a government scheme they are ok, but not if you own rather than rent. A bit like saying you can't drive a car you own, but you can use a taxi.

The most popular one that I've seen is the Xiaomi one, which I think is red & black, so probably what toby1 is referring to above.
There are tons of reviews on them if you look on YouTube etc.

Yeah, there’s a rentable option in Cambridge at the moment that one of the Mayoral candidates was advertising the other day, it seems if they are part of a government scheme they are ok, but not if you own rather than rent. A bit like saying you can’t drive a car you own, but you can use a taxi.

That is because it is a 1 year trial in Cambridge isn't it? The outcome of the trial to determine future legality. They need to get a move on as they make a very good form of transport for up to 5 mile trips, commutes etc,.

That is because it is a 1 year trial in Cambridge isn’t it?

Yes, in a few cities. These are the trial scheme ones...

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Still loads of non trial ones (illegal) in use as they were before and will be after......

A bit like saying you can’t drive a car you own, but you can use a taxi.

There's a trial scheme near where I am too, centered around the local universities. I think they're a great idea, they get quite a lot of flak in the local rag/FB groups though - although often people are lumping the private (illegal) ones in with the rentals (which are usually ridden quite sensibly, and geofenced, including different speed limits for different areas e.g. 7mph down the High Street I think, and ONLY before 10am or after 4.30pm which is the same as for bicycles)

it’s not really though is it?

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So the trial scheme ones all have:

- number plates so you can report / identify a rider / scooter
- geofenced speed limits
- fines for parking them on pavements

etc, etc.

Which is vaguely sensible.

Halfords are flogging them, and presumably quite a few of them, with just a caveat at the bottom that says ‘only for use on private property’ - yeah right.

Genie is out of the bottle on these I think. Regulation needs to catch up sharpish...

– fines for parking them on pavements

etc, etc.

And insurance is in the rental fee.
Can't see private owners getting insurance in a hurry, then what happens when they dent a car?
(You're also supposed to have a driver's license, although a provisional is enough)

I think they should become legal but there's a few hoops to jump though first.

The Voi scooters in Bristol seem to have been a huge hit (just from what I see). Planning on using my first one tomorrow for a trip to survey a job in town that I’d normally take the van and have the hassle of parking, pay and display etc. Day pass for the scooter is a fiver.

Xiaomi 1S is well rated by the scooter boys and gals

Look at the Pure Air because it is water resistant.

Can’t see private owners getting insurance in a hurry, then what happens when they dent a car?

Doubt you can get private insurance as they're illegal to use.

As for hitting cars, no different to on a bike, you just ride off and pretend it wasn't you 😉

They range in price form £300 to £2000. I worry with the range of chinese options on the market, spares are going to be an issue going forward, warranties, replacement batteries etc.

Stick to one of the main brands, £500 upwards seems to get you a decent unit doing 15.5mph/range and 2k gets you a 40mph+ monster (have a friend waiting for delivery of a Apollo Phantom to replace a e-twow GT). Lots of guides available, segway are recommended for the durability, as their used in the hire schemes a lot, and apparently 2nd hand price are high, so resale is high, when you get your points (assuming they don't confiscate your e-scooter).

I think there ace and could reduce my local car usage significantly. Now if only we lived in an open minded society and were happy to share the roads with other slower vehicles (like bicycles). I'm see more and more kids on them, not sure how the police are going to really stop them, when major shops like Halfords sell them. Points may put off adults with cars, but kids with no license? Are they going to stop, if asked politely? (and potentially loose there e-scooter)

Doubt you can get private insurance as they’re illegal to use.

Sorry, I meant if/when they become legal.

There's going to be issues that's for sure.

In the US Bird & Segway range are really popular and both work really well.

Bear in mind that if the police are bored you're an easy target (as opposed to reckless car drivers and people randomly shooting at cyclists).

The fines are astronomical and the conviction is driving without insurance, which will cause a massive headache in the future.

I'd just legalise the whole lot and accept there are going to be some bumps and bruises.

There’s a few platers come to us on a regular basis with scooters, plus a few with folding bikes, because they have to use public transport between jobs - they’ll drop off a car, say to where I work, then they have to get to the next pick-up, which could be a couple of miles away, it could be twenty to fifty, so options vary, scrounging a lift off another plater, or catching a train, and it takes twenty minutes to walk to Westbury station, ‘cos I’ve walked it, so a fold-up e-scooter is a perfect solution for short jaunts to and from public transport hubs. Given some spare cash, I’m open to using one for local use, save my knees!

Electric scooters and hilly don’t really go together that well. I rented one in San Diego and it really struggled to get up the hills at walking pace. I’m only 70kg, so it’s not likes it’s carrying a massive load.

Bear in mind that if the police are bored you’re an easy target (as opposed to reckless car drivers and people randomly shooting at cyclists).

Judging by how many are in use around here, pretty sure the Police aren't interested.

The fines are astronomical and the conviction is driving without insurance, which will cause a massive headache in the future.

I'd be very surprised if anyone is actually convicted other than the odd exceptional case. IIRC The cyclist on a chipped ebike who killed a pedestrian in London was charged with this and acquitted on all charges by the Jury.

The VOI scooters here have just come up with a monthly offer, at £39 a month unlimited which seems little steep. You'd buy your own in a year.

Although £9.99 a day to hire one, so £39 pcm isn't that bad.

I still don't get why anyone would hire one other than for novelty value.

I got one of these based on a recc from here.
https://www.pureelectric.com/products/pure-air-pro-electric-scooter-second-generation
Great buy, v powerful.

I wonder if it would be possible for an insurance company to offer insurance for these? Perhaps for specific models? Then if stopped by police the crime would be driving an unregistered vehicle (which I assume is less serious than an uninsured vehicle). And you'd then have protection if you did run into someone or their vehicle. If all the scooter riders are self-insuring at the moment it can't be that risky. And you'd only get the more cautious riders choosing to buy insurance.

Then if stopped by police the crime would be driving an unregistered vehicle

They neither stop nor presecute people riding them (in Cambridge anyway), loads of them all over the place.

Expensive, folding scooter, here you go;
https://swiftyscooters.com/collections/electric/products/swiftyone-e