[Closed] What is 'Grime''?

Here you go:

You need some cillit bang

Is that you at 1:38 Flossie?

Think of it as British rap.

I love this guy's stuff. One of Wiley's krew I believe. I'm well too old for it though, me.

And Flowdan

It's pretty big in Huddersfield aswell

It's a british version of rap, which in turn is a shit version of hip hop.

Grime is soooooo last Tuesday.

It’s all about Drill now, innit bruv?

It's a sub-division of "Some Bloke Droning On About Something Or Other" music.

Only, done really fast.

Well its not on any Top Gear driving anthem compilations.

Just make sure you don't confuse Grime (quite often hook based) with Road Rap, it's an easy faux pas to make when discussing hi fi systems, prog rock and when music was better.

I really like this

Tongue and Groove is what the kids are all listening to 😉

My Uzi!

It’s actually a sort of modern YTS scheme started by Iain Duncan Smith to try and reduce benefits payments to the yoot of saaaaaaaaaaaaaahf laaaaaandan

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I'm in to skiffle 'n bass nowadays. Yafeelme, yeah?

Me woman jus ask me turn fi heatin down a lickle bit.

Me say, Man not hot!

Truss.

So it’s rapping then? I’ll stick with Ugly Duckling, B. Dolan and Phil Most Chill.

Truss?

Mmmmm.  You wouldn't want any further swelling at those temperatures.

[i]So it’s rapping then?[/i]

Not really. It’s grime. The language is different, the accents are different and the production is different.

Thing most in common with rap is that there are bad ones and good ones - ie. ones you’ll like and ones you wont.

I’ve had a liten to some drill, but I didn’t like the production on the stuff I heard - it is a lot closer to rap with British accents. Might have to try some more.

[i]My Uzi[/i]

wtf is that supposed to be referencing? Go back to your Dire Straits albums eh.

The average age on this site is 60,perfect place for the question huh:)

Nah, not really to my taste, me being a working class white boy from North Wiltshire!
I’ll stick with Kate Tempest and NWA, ta.

It appears to be some kind ofosub gener that just sounds like absolute shite..

Easy. Don't listen to it then.

I don't listen to Dire Straits, either...

It’s a british version of rap, which in turn is a shit version of hip hop.

Show me a good hip hopper and I'll show you a good rapper 😉

Although it's interesting that you seem to be contemptable of a bunch of guys who are quite skilled at, you know, playing actual musical instruments...

It appears to be some kind ofosub gener that just sounds like absolute shite..

😀 go on Andybraaaaad!

Gibberish Recital Irritating My Ears .

Innit.

Although it’s interesting that you seem to be contemptable of a bunch of guys who are quite skilled at, you know, playing actual musical instruments…

So you like all genres of music played by skilled musicians? God, how boring.

Oh, do I?

here we go!!!

So it's a form of rap performed by British southerners putting on dodgy accents. For the first time I'm actually glad I'm aging

Grime was actually started as music for mobile phone speakers. Listen to it on some decent speakers and it really is a bit much.

Likewise, real musicians who play instruments need to be listened to on a decent sound system, preferably in a room with good acoustics (i.e. a chill out room designed for listening to music). Otherwise you miss all of the nuances.

Mr Woppit did you mean Uzi Lover. (Probably NSFW)

I find the affected accents and vocal delivery even more tortuous than British prog.

That takes some doing.

[ijdid you mean Uzi Lover[/i]

Chris Morris’s Ice Cube tribute/parody from over 20 years ago? It was bloody funny, but on a thread about grime. Yeah, brilliant.

Grime was actually started as music for mobile phone speakers.

Never a truer word...

For the full effect you need to listen to it on the top deck of the159 between Brixton and Streatham Hill, played on a phone speaker.

Happy days.

Shit rap performed by ignorant South Londoners who don't have the musical ability to produce hip hop.

It's almost like they managed to extract the last one percent of UK garage that wasn't utter shite, discarded it and then managed to make the leftovers worse.

I do wish people would stop making up new names for tired old genres just because half a dozen "artists" have decided to all use the same sample.

South London does harbour some talent.

[i]Grime was actually started as music for mobile phone speakers[/i]

Never heard that before! Sauce?

Thanks everyone,

Well, now I feel enlightened. But it's really not my cup of tea!

ill stick with my blues based rock on what the kids describe as 'Dad Radio'!

Must admit though, DJ Smile Rocks (I was previously aware of his work prior to this thread!)

Anyway, this is more my taste...

Nice to see Vicky Pea back on the forum after her brief hiatus.

[i]Shit rap performed by ignorant South Londoners who don’t have the musical ability to produce hip hop[/i]

Probably the single most clueless piece of shite I’ve read about music on stw, and you’ve certainly got some competition.

Anyway, OP should go to Wikipedia to ask questions like that, not a bunch of old fogies repeating the same stuff generation after generation churns about new music that upsets their delicate little stuck in the past earoles 😁

Isn`t Woppit a genuine indie rock star? Just sayin’

Never, ever talk to musicians about music. It destroys the illusion.

Similarly, artists are the last people you should listen to pontificate about art.

DezB

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Grime was actually started as music for mobile phone speakers

Never heard that before! Sauce?

I was just being sarcastic.

I know alot of white males, MTBers, are racist, especially when it comes to music.

I was supposed to type “slang” not slag.. if the mods would be so kind..

Soz.

So, how ya supposed to report a post? I’ve just reported my own post ^^ to get the word changed but no “why you reporting it” box came up?

Im expecting a ban from my own misspelling... 🥊💥🤡🧚‍♀️

Is that "stormzy wicked skengman 4" link to lyrics on the 2nd post genuine?, sounds and reads like an utter piss take?

Ah, davidtaylforth, missed that he was quoting you!

[i]I know a lot of white males, MTBers, are racist, especially when it comes to music[/i]

Exactly 😂

somafunk

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Is that “stormzy wicked skengman 4” link to lyrics on the 2nd post genuine?, sounds and reads like an utter piss take?

As a generalisation, people seem too eager to take things at face value. They want or expect all songs to really mean what they're hearing. "I can really relate to that ballad that Dave Grohl/Chris Martin/Liam Gallagher was belting out at Glasto, I was in tears, I've felt exaclty like that" etc.

They then get offended when they're hear some young kid rhyming about shooting up a club with a .44. Like "no way, what a bullshitter, reckons he's billy big balls, did he bollocks do that" etc.
It is possible that people make songs that AREN'T really real.

It's a type of music that depicts a certain stereo type but would guess it's a type of music that makes people listen to it until they feel dirty aka grimey.

Let's face it, lil gangsta moped thieves in Landan hardly wash now do they, 24/7 life aint it! ;-d

ugh this thread sums up stw so well

lovin the big shaq though! legend

If you can't get this Grime shizzle on wax cylinder I'm oooouuut.

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Shit music.

Very much like a shit new forum.

"andybrad: It appears to be some kind ofosub gener that just sounds like absolute shite"

I'm pretty sure I've met you and you're as precisely not the target market as I am. Me, I worry when The Kids like music I like, there's something wrong there. One of my students was telling me how much she loves the first Machine Head album, it came out in 1994 ffs, when I was your age, your mum and dad probably hadn't even met. You should be listening to something I think isn't even music.

Kids these days.

I’m pretty sure I’ve met you and you’re as precisely not the target market as I am. Me, I worry when The Kids like music I like, there’s something wrong there.

Haha!

Or even worse....

Hi my name's David, I'm forty one years old with a partner and two step kids. I work at an engineering consultancy and I like to relax with e glass of red wine whilst listening to Stormzy's greatest hits.

I think it sort of sucks some of the hope/passion/life out of that type of music, the fact that a middle aged man might be enjoying it with a glass of wine.

I don't get why age and musical taste have to be related. I appreciate I'm ****ing abnormal in listening to music made by people young enough to be my grand-kids, but there's nothing more boring than listening to the same old guitar sounds for the rest of your life. It's like giving up.

It’s a british version of rap, which in turn is a shit version of hip hop.

Grime is more of a LDN thing innit?  MCR has such a vibrant hiphop/urban/D&B collective type scene but doesn't have the same profile.Northern grit and humour are much my cup of tea.Plus we've got the best football teams 😉

Check out Chimpo @2.50 🙂 🙂

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrQf4v8dQcQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HXERQcz2dI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqebh5bGlPQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWJrJnBnnKw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7m0p-sp3Udw

but there’s nothing more boring than listening to the same old guitar sounds for the rest of your life.

Word. THere's not much worse than Jack Johnson.

10/10 chaps.
Singletrackgold.

nick1962 wins the thread - the northern take on it is so much more witty and interesting rather than just trying to be straight up gangsta.

Having said that - the energy of this live performance gives me goosebumps (check out from about 1:30)

And this is a banger!

<span style="color: #444444; font-size: 16px;">Isn`t Woppit a genuine indie rock star? Just sayin’</span>

Jesus Jones?

"Probably the single most clueless piece of shite I’ve read about music on stw, and you’ve certainly got some competition."

😀

Thought that might cause some upset.

*But seriously, I could point out why the rhythms, lyrics and melodies (or utter lack of) of grime are complete musical dairylea, but then what is the point when some people just like their cheese triangles?

*You've got to admit that was good. 😉

I like a balanced cheeseboard, me 😁

"It’s a type of music that depicts a certain stereo type"

Hopefully with some decent speaker cables.

Has Gary Neville hit hard times davidtaylforth.

Grime has been a slow burner for me...i remember Wileys early stuff and didn't like it...Lethal Bizzles 'Pow' came out in 2011 and I hated it too....i was still into US rap but was rapidly going off it due to lazy production and droning lazy rappers....oh for the halcyon days of 1995 and 2Pac and Biggie...i abstracted myself from yoof music for a few years and went back over some of the stuff my dad played when I was a kid...found I really liked the Stones, loved LedZep etc and thought at 30-ish I was done with anything new.

Then I saw that Skepta Shoreditch car park vid and Stormzys 'Shut Up' in about 2015 and realised it was bloody brilliant.

US rap is lost at the moment, where are the Cypress Hills, the WuTangs, 2Pac etc..dont even try to compare Drake to that, he's shite....you know it's bad when Snoop Dogg releases a track and it sounds good, the bloke must be 50 by now...what happened to US rap?

Anyway, stuff ' em....most decent UK grime assists stomp all over them lyrically now...the grime beats are harder, it's like US rap used to be....only it's coming out of this country, if that sounds like I'm saying grime just copies old US stuff I'm not, grime has a unique sound as all the vids above show.

My only fear is that it's downhill now, that Shoreditch car park moment was 2015 and arguably the peak of grime as an underground movement....remember that was just organised on social media and was totally free...it was grime's 1989 Summer of Love rave scene moment.

I hope it continues for a while longer, I'm still going back over stuff I hated from 2010-15 and finding some gems.

[i]Stormzys ‘Shut Up’ in about 2015 and realised it was bloody brilliant.[/i]

There’s some right old rubbish on that Mercury Prize winning album! Really disappointing... Loads of God-bothery shite too. Perfect listening for Woppit!

Skepta’s winner last year much more consistent. Neither a patch on Frisco though.

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(excuse all the <span> shite, trying to clear them out)

Disagree - there is some fantastic stuff out there. Its not gonna be handed to you on a plate (pop like Drake will always be easier to find obviously).You just gotta go trawling the net for the underground stuff if you’re really interested in finding it.

US rap is lost at the moment, where are the Cypress Hills, the WuTangs, 2Pac etc..dont even try to compare Drake to that, he’s shite….you know it’s bad when Snoop Dogg releases a track and it sounds good, the bloke must be 50 by now…what happened to US rap?

Yup, I watched a gruesome compilation of rappers killed in 2017 on youtube and it was all dreadful Trap/'Soundcloud' rap with them all waving guns around etc. And apparently ego-trip is now a thing! A lot of that stuff is insanely massive too. I realise I sound old but I grew up listening to ATCQ, Wu Tang, Gangstarr etc - I don't expect modern rap to sound like that, but jeez....

I'm quite into High Focus records and in particular a guy called Dabbla from the UK at the mo. It's more hip-hop than grime but some is a bit grime-influenced. It's kind of cheesy but really good flow and energy, and I like the production.

https://open.spotify.com/album/3CuspJknWlVZLNgixDmZSB

^^ i have to like the voice and the production, don’t like either on that. He sounds llike a white kid. Some can get away with it, but can’t listen to that! 🤪

Just resurrecting this thread slightly to post this absolute gem from  years ago

"I don't know about the rules of the Grime,Manchester's lawless" 🙂

I love how it can be so different! Live jazz on that one... This one I first heard on the Tune Association thread (2010!). Like what you like is the only rule. 🙂

US rap is lost at the moment....what happened to US rap?

now they're taking the drugs - not selling them.

There are some brilliant rappers coming through soundcloud.

Is that an example of one of the crap ones?

I am very much in agreement with the people who said grime is much better than most of the US rap currently so much terrible stuff coming out of that place.

OK, this is the last rap thing I purchased.

L'Orange produced - can't go wrong

Lyrics, not about drugs; bitches, muthafudgers, n***az, not mentioned.

https://lorange360.bandcamp.com/album/the-city-under-the-city

STW approved. Classic BMW 635 CSL (ok it's not a maroon Rover 75) man playin snake though.