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 tomm
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i've been thinking about handguns and realised i know very little about them. is there any experts in here?
what's the type to have? is there a best manufacturer?
not after anything flash, just something cheap, simple and reliable. doesn't have to be super accurate as i imagine it will only be used at very close range. or perhaps something that looked a bit menacing would reduce the need to actually use it. hmmmm...


 
Posted : 09/11/2011 7:37 pm
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Is this enquiry somehow connected to [url= http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/can-you-change-your-life-for-15000 ]this thread[/url]?

Planning something, are we? 😉


 
Posted : 09/11/2011 7:39 pm
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Desert eagle.


 
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Posted : 09/11/2011 7:39 pm
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Glock 17 - cheap, reliable, used by most police forces?


 
Posted : 09/11/2011 7:40 pm
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😆 @ Crikey!


 
Posted : 09/11/2011 7:41 pm
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I second the desert eagle, but get 2 of them just for the look.


 
Posted : 09/11/2011 7:42 pm
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Posted : 09/11/2011 7:44 pm
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I went to a gun show in Lander, Wyoming. Spoilt for choice.

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Posted : 09/11/2011 7:44 pm
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Tomm, do you live in suderland? if so you probably better off with an Uzi, Tec-9 or H&K MP5.


 
Posted : 09/11/2011 7:47 pm
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A nice sig sauer, browning high poweror a beretta 92f. Or robocops. I need to stop watching to many movies. I have held the others though. Too heavy for a 9/10 year old.


 
Posted : 09/11/2011 7:48 pm
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thanks for all the names etc.. i'm googling them as we speak. those Sig Sauers look evil!


 
Posted : 09/11/2011 7:52 pm
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Pack some proper heat bruv.

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Posted : 09/11/2011 7:55 pm
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What does your local supplied have on offer?


 
Posted : 09/11/2011 7:55 pm
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What does your local supplied have on offer?

ex army/police mostly. exotica available at special request with a slightly longer waiting period apparently


 
Posted : 09/11/2011 7:57 pm
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Handguns are so last year


 
Posted : 09/11/2011 8:00 pm
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Desert eagle or Glock gen 4


 
Posted : 09/11/2011 8:02 pm
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Beretta ,but get it in 45ACP. Don't fall for any fancy .40 caliber etc.


 
Posted : 09/11/2011 8:14 pm
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Browning high power, don't know much about hand guns but this is the only automatic i've ever used and it is a piece of piss to use and service. And the design has survived over 60 years.


 
Posted : 09/11/2011 8:53 pm
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Definately Desert Eagle

N.B. Not my wife.


 
Posted : 09/11/2011 8:54 pm
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*not a handgun.


 
Posted : 09/11/2011 9:39 pm
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A Glock 30 is ideal for you needs.


 
Posted : 09/11/2011 9:45 pm
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Out of several handguns I have, my favorite is still a Kimber .45 stainless steel model. Easy to take care of/clean and shoots well--and from a personal protection perspective, the noise alone is pretty effective


 
Posted : 09/11/2011 9:54 pm
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I got to hold a Dirty Harry S+W .44 Magnum a few years ago, full dirty long barrel and everyfink. Jeeze I could barely hold it up! Proper hefty.

(I'm not a gun nut or owt, I just like the films)

Out of several handguns I have... ....from a personal protection perspective

Do you live in a war-torn country? Or Hackney or somewhere?


 
Posted : 09/11/2011 9:57 pm
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Do you live in a war-torn country

Not exactly--mostly carry it hiking in the mountains for the chance encounter with a thoroughly irritated bear---can get a lot of rounds off fast and the .45 has whole lot of stopping power.


 
Posted : 09/11/2011 10:04 pm
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I have a Browning Automatic badminton racket you could borrow.


 
Posted : 09/11/2011 10:06 pm
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Oh right! 😆

Yeah, I'd probbly want something if there were big bears about and that. 😯


 
Posted : 09/11/2011 10:06 pm
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Sig p226 with extended mag.
The weapon of choice for the chappies who like to hide their eyes in photos.

If you have a long midle finger, you'll be able to fire the action off on a browning hi power without having to insert the mag (which often results in RMPs having neglible discharges! muppets)


 
Posted : 09/11/2011 10:09 pm
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Glock 18 - have a look on youtube

Good for angry people and those not subject to many gun laws.


 
Posted : 09/11/2011 10:13 pm
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One of these:
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Posted : 09/11/2011 10:21 pm
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Yeah, I'd probbly want something if there were big bears about and that

My brother in law in Alaska carries a .50 when working at remote field locations---he says if it doesn't stop a barren ground grizzly or brownie, he can always shoot himself


 
Posted : 09/11/2011 10:26 pm
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S&W .357 Magnum with speedloaders, good handling, ample stopping power and accuracy with no jamming problems

Forget all that gangsta nonsense waving a semi automatic about at strange angles, you want reliability with the added bonus of no spent cases laying about


 
Posted : 09/11/2011 10:26 pm
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Forget all that gangsta nonsense waving a semi automatic about at strange angles

Yeah, that movie stuff of holding the gun sideways is pretty absurd. Nothing like a two-hand hold to really hit what you are shooting at.
I tried doing some of the movie stuff at a target range and it doesn't do much for accuracy


 
Posted : 09/11/2011 10:31 pm
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I have a Browning Automatic badminton racket you could borrow.

Did Browning not make some bizarre electric front shifter with split chainrings a long time ago or am I hallucinating again? (possibly a different Browning of course...

EDIT- strangely not - " In 1977, Browning Arms closed their bicycle business")


 
Posted : 09/11/2011 10:33 pm
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On the one occasion I let a round off with a magnum, my ears popped big time and the kick was such that I thought it would be very difficult to use with much degree of accuracy.


 
Posted : 09/11/2011 10:34 pm
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I know what you mean---my .357 magnum revolver, even though it's really heavey, kicks like a mule and I learned the hard way to wear ear plugs


 
Posted : 09/11/2011 10:38 pm
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WTF? Everyone seems to have missed the point! those are all real guns, surely this is the thing

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Posted : 09/11/2011 10:56 pm
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Desert Eagle point five o......


 
Posted : 09/11/2011 11:07 pm
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You can tell the people who have never shot a desert eagle - it's an awful weapon that's more likely to break your nose or wrist or dislocate your shoulder than maim your adversary. If I was packing heat these days it would be a Glock gen 4, probably a 17.


 
Posted : 09/11/2011 11:49 pm
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I was once shown round a data centre in Dallas. The chap showing me round showed me the control centre behind this big perspex window.

"That window will stop a bullet." he said.
He thought on this for a moment and then gently rubbing his crotch, added...
"'Cept from my .44 magnum."


 
Posted : 09/11/2011 11:59 pm
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I shot 5 rounds from a .44 Magnum gun. It was extremely unpleasant, not exhilarating at all. To re-create the experience, get inside a suitably sized metal tank of some kind, and place your palms on the wall of the tank. Have someone hit the outside with a sledgehammer at the point where your hands are. Then have another assistant cut a neat round hole near the edge of a piece of paper with circles on it.


 
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You can tell the people who have never shot a desert eagle - it's an awful weapon that's more likely to break your nose or wrist or dislocate your shoulder than maim your adversary

They come in a few calibres, but the .50AE is the one all the "gangsta's" want......size and all that. I shot the .357 version and it was comfortable and easy to shoot, but that was mainly down to the weight of the thing dampening all the recoil. But then my shooting days are long behind me, so i'll pass you to Mr Sage Francis for some words of wisdom:


 
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If I was packing heat these days it would be a Glock gen 4, probably a 17.

That sounds like an expensive way of packing heat. I prefer to use economy 7 and some efficient storage heaters.


 
Posted : 10/11/2011 10:30 am
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The gentleman would of course opt for the silenced Luger.


 
Posted : 10/11/2011 10:34 am
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"perhaps something that looked a bit menacing would reduce the need to actually use it. hmmmm..."

yes because no one holding a menacing looking gun ever gets shot. fact.

if you've been 'thinking about handguns', maybe you need to think about a few other things.....


 
Posted : 10/11/2011 10:38 am
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Clearly the only choice would be that of Sean Connery. A gentleman's gentleman.

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The Fosberry .455

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Posted : 10/11/2011 10:41 am
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Did Browning not make some bizarre electric front shifter with split chainrings a long time ago or am I hallucinating again? ...

I've got most of one. Still trying to find the other bits. 🙂


 
Posted : 10/11/2011 10:45 am
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Agree with iDave.

I wonder how many people have been saved from being shot because they had a gun on them.


 
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I've never carried a gun and I've never been shot, that's fact enough for me.


 
Posted : 10/11/2011 10:46 am
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I wonder how many people have been saved from being shot because they had a gun on them.

Try some US forums. It's full of people who are convinced carrying a gun saved their lives.

I've been in a situation where I'd have sworn blind I'd have saved the lives of me and my family, had I had one. As it turns out a stiff upper lip sufficed.

Much like helmets everyone assumes they "saved your life". The reality is they probably didn't make any odds at all.


 
Posted : 10/11/2011 10:49 am
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I wonder how many people HAVE been shot because they had a gun on them.


 
Posted : 10/11/2011 10:50 am
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I've got most of one. Still trying to find the other bits.

epicyclo - did you ever have one working or is this a new retro project? I always wanted one at the time but the cost was a bit high


 
Posted : 10/11/2011 10:55 am
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Clearly the only choice would be that of Sean Connery. A gentleman's gentleman.

Walther PPK shurely?


 
Posted : 10/11/2011 11:00 am
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Walther PPK shurely?

Or a Walther LP53?
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Posted : 10/11/2011 11:04 am
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Weird thread to see on a uk bike forum.... 😕

I wonder how many people HAVE been shot because they had a gun on them.

Pretty sure I've seen that the stats show you are much more likely to get shot if you are carrying a gun - often with your own gun.


 
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Looks like big Sean's gonna shoot the wardrobe lady for making him wear that gimpy outfit.

EDIT: The one with the boots, not the suit. 🙂


 
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[i]Pretty sure I've seen that the stats show you are much more likely to get shot if you are carrying a gun - often with your own gun. [/i]

some kind of aiming device sounds in order.


 
Posted : 10/11/2011 11:05 am
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ive shot the dirty harry handgun last time i was in vegas. it was insanely badass. the weight of it makes you think its going to be a beast to shoot, but the extra heft helps reduce felt recoil.

also, desert eagle


 
Posted : 10/11/2011 11:06 am
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epicyclo - did you ever have one working or is this a new retro project?...

Never had the whole thing. Been watching out for ages.

I do have the crank rings though. Quite clever.


 
Posted : 10/11/2011 11:07 am
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Something a bit niche:

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Something cos it's got lovely lines:

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Something that'll stop a no.8 bus:

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Posted : 10/11/2011 11:11 am
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Or a Walther LP53?

Stylish. A compliment to the suit!


 
Posted : 10/11/2011 11:17 am
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A compliment to the suit!

You'd need a pretty good tailor to hide the line of that barrel in a fitted DJ


 
Posted : 10/11/2011 11:27 am
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The Walther LP53 wouldn't be much use in a crisis. It's a single shot, break barrel air pistol in 4.5mm cal.!


 
Posted : 10/11/2011 11:32 am
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But you could actually own one...


 
Posted : 10/11/2011 11:34 am
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Have nice day.


 
Posted : 10/11/2011 11:35 am
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An internet profiler's dream thread.

Where can I buy that little orange number Sir Sean's wearing above? I could rock that look.


 
Posted : 10/11/2011 11:36 am
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I was lucky enough to have a firearms license once pre Dunblane and know a bit about the subject, which, old school rules Revolver = reliability, Auto for flashiness but not quite the accuracy, you have to be one strong mofo to get any kind of decent grouping with those large calibre handguns.

My personal favourite was the broom handled Mauser, cool in a deadly ugly way, I once briefly owned one captured in the Persion Gulf in 1906, came with a wooden case which was also a stock. The gun was also famous as being used by young Winston Churchill, very powerful big stopping power would go through a brick wall.
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I never cease to be amazed how easy guns are to come by stateside and that girls like to go hobby shooting, (they could have used a lighter load for that poor woman who had it kick her face) it's a shame the only way we can own them over here is illegally and it's a jail sentence if you do, I still think it ought to be a basic human right to bear arms, particularly when you live in an increasingly anarchic society.


 
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Something that'll stop a no.8 bus:

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Posted : 10/11/2011 11:47 am
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it's a shame the only way we can own them over here is illegally and it's a jail sentence if you do

Yes it's really such a terrible shame. 😕

I still think it ought to be a basic human right to bear arms, particularly [b]when you live in an increasingly anarchic society[/b].

O RLY? Stats?


 
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Sag Sauer P226 or P220 is the handgun of choice for the armed response guys round here.

Very reliable apparently.


 
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Guns are for pussies and people that are scared of other gun carrying pussies

EDIT Was going to say it's ok if you live in bear country but would a bear attack if someone let an air bomb off in it's face


 
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it's a shame the only way we can own them over here is illegally and it's a jail sentence if you do
Yes it's really such a terrible shame.

I still think it ought to be a basic human right to bear arms, particularly when you live in an increasingly anarchic society.
O RLY? Stats?

It's just my opinion chum, can't back it up with stats, but I was trusted to own one once and only used it at permitted ranges and went through the even by todays H&S standards, fairly rigorous checks and inspections of storage devices necessary to store firearms in the home, so see no reason why simply because someone went mad because he was fed up with being Scottish so decided to terminate lots of other helpless Scots, that I should be prevented from a simple pleasure and the means as an absolute last resort to defend myself or my family from early termination at the hands of some knife wielding thug.

You can't deny me that opinion, I accept you may disagree, but then I absolutely promise I'd never ever shoot your for it. 😉


 
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to defend myself or my family from early termination at the hands of some knife wielding thug

I bet you left that bit off your FAC application.


 
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while holidaying in maine with my sister and brother in law we stopped at an outdoor store. go upstairs my brother in law said, smiling. my god, I have never seen anything like it. Pump action shotguns, assault rifles, handguns, the lot. Crazy. people were buying them like it was nothing. quite scary if I'm honest.


 
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someone went mad because he was fed up with being Scottish

Yep, you sound sensible enough to be trusted with firearms.


 
Posted : 10/11/2011 12:06 pm
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It's just my opinion chum, can't back it up with stats

I think the stats show that society is safer now than at any point in history. I blame tabloid newspapers for hyping up the fear of crime.

so see no reason why simply because someone went mad because he was fed up with being Scottish so decided to terminate lots of other helpless Scots, that I should be prevented from a simple pleasure

You could just use an air gun :shrug:

and the means as an absolute last resort to defend myself or my family from early termination at the hands of some knife wielding thug.

How many times has a knife-wielding thug attacked you and your family exactly? And again, stats show you are [i]less[/i] safe carrying a gun than not.


 
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To be fair to derek this country is wrong to legislate for the nutters.

If someone wants to go nuts in a school and kill a load of students they could do it with some cheesewire. But then I suppose it makes the worriers feel more safe if the government blanket bans something in such a way


 
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that I should be prevented from a simple pleasure and the means as an absolute last resort to defend myself or my family from early termination at the hands of some knife wielding thug.

Well there is the small matter that if that "knife weilding thug" thinks you have a gun then he or she will in all likelihood just bring a gun instead and shot you first.

I still think it ought to be a basic human right to bear arms, particularly when you live in an increasingly anarchic society.

I actually tend to agree with this, and if I lived in an anarchic society (lets say Somalia for example) then there is a good chance that I'd own a gun. Actually if I lived in Somlia I'd be doing my damndest to get out but that's another matter. As the UK can in no way whatsoever be described as anarchic (other than by a swivel eyed loon) then I fail to see the connection.


 
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Didn't have a family back then, not sure I'd be totally cool with the guns I had back in those days in my family environment, but I would like to feel I'm responsible enough to own and safely store a small sidearm should needs must.

It's just another example of the State making decisions not all of us agree are sensible.

It follows the sample argument for legalising soft drugs, de criminalising the distribution of fire arms is more likely to remove them from the 'wrong' routes to market.


 
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