I welcome all the ban on mass gatherings as they are just trouble waiting to happen.
Coronavirus: UK could ban mass gatherings from next week
Best of all no sports on telly i.e. marathon, Olympic (I watch them in if they are on), football, singing festivals and all sort of hype up activities.
All quiet and relaxing hopefully for the next 6 months.
Bring on all the history channels and outdoor BBQ!
Brexit karma
Perhaps you should consider freedom of movement? No?
Might help Trump to not retain his presidency. A great and lasting gift to the world.
So all the democrats go out to vote en masses and in the process contracted corona virus taking very heavy casualty is that worth it?
So all the democrats go out to vote en masses and in the process contracted corona virus taking very heavy casualty is that worth it?
It'll mostly kill old people, so we'll be rid of most of the boomers who messed the world up. Keep in mind that the average Trump voter is much older than the average Democrat voter. It'll be sad for all the kids who miss Grandpa, but future generations will thank us.
Tottenham having a fit squad by the time the PL starts up again...no guarantees the results will reflect that but still, we live in hope.
An absolute selfish one..... My Uni exam in June cancelled and do another assignment in its place please
It’ll be sad for all the kids who miss Grandpa, but future generations will thank us.
The Democrat leadership ain't young either.
My Uni exam in June cancelled and do another assignment in its place please
No pressure then.
People learning to cook from fresh ingredients a bit more and to try new foods.
People learning to cook from fresh ingredients a bit more and to try new foods.
And deriving from that, perhaps an understanding of how supply chains work (especially just-in-time) and maybe the ability to "stockpile" on a bit-by-bit basis, just buying one or two extra items per shop and building up an emergency reserve of things like tinned food, utilitarian supplies etc so that if/when there's another catastrophe, the world doesn't lose its collective mind, rush to the supermarket and decimate the shelves.
Maybe stale relationships can be rekindled...
https://twitter.com/bignigenufc/status/1238760871012323328?s=21
Saw lots of families and groups out walking and cycling today as all shops are closed in Belgium at weekend now (apart from food/pharmacies). Had a nice vibe
We do more talking about life (and death).
People get into the habit of simple acts of kindness and playing them forward.
We value the simple things and are more mindful.
There will be less old people so the burden on the NHS will be lower.
There will be less old people so the pension pot situation will improve
The community council in my village have set up a scheme so we can all help the elderly and infirm, whether that be getting their shopping or prescriptions from town, or whatever. It’s really heartwarming to see the response.
It’ll mostly kill old people, so we’ll be rid of most of the boomers who messed the world up.
Let's hope it knows which were the "wrong-uns".
There will be less old people so the burden on the NHS will be
Fewer FFS, fewer. There is no hope.
How things change... I mentioned a few of the above points (all valid) a week ago in the main Corona thread I got a warning email and my post removed.
Anyway.
I think possible positives:
Brexit will be delayed and a timely lesson on cooperation between Nations will be learned.
The polarised / left v Right tribal politics of the last 5+ years will come to an abrupt end.
A huge reduction in general cynicism towards experts, good data and convenient lies to counter inconvenient truths. People can learn the easy way and accept facts, or frankly they can say “it’s a load of old bollocks” as they always do when something happens they don’t want to accept and get sick.
But as I type this I’m in the Cafe of a supermarket in Bridgend watching muppets load their cars with bags of toilet rolls and wondering if after the recent Floods and now this ‘plague’ maybe it really is the end of days and we deserve it.
All these cancelled flights and a bit of population reduction will cheer up the environmentalists.
Best of all no sports on telly
Not so sure! Saturday MOTD was replaced by Mrs Brown's Boys.If Corona don't getcha then that dross will certainly finish you off.
There will be less old people so the pension pot situation will improve
It did occur to me that the big insurers might be a good investment as once all the short term hits filter out, their long term exposure to annuities will be reduced which will mean they can reduce reserves by upping dividends.....
Hopefully kill off all the ****s that have bought all the toliet paper; pasta; rice etc for no reason.
I've really upped my turbo cider efforts to ensure a good stockpile, so I'm hoping to be a master brewer of tramp juice by the time this has blown over.
Hopefully the value of the NHS should be clear by then.
A fugitive boss of the calabrese Mafia was arrested, on Friday, thanks to the lockdown imposed by the Italian government to contain the coronavirus.
Cesare Antonio Cordì, 42, emerging boss of the Locri clan, in Calabria, has been wanted since last July and accused of fraudulent money transfer. The man was hiding in a villa in the countryside of Locri. The police have been busy, for days, on the checks to enforce the lockdown and the ban on going out, except in cases of extreme necessity. The day before, they stopped a man with shopping bags who justified himself saying he was only bringing the groceries to a friend who could not go out.
The police were suspicious of the fact that, in that area, almost all the villas were uninhabited. In the following hours, they followed him and found the shopping was destined for the boss Cordì.
To arrest him, the intervention of a special military unit was necessary. It consists of elite and highly trained soldiers, known as the Carabinieri Heliborne Squadron, or the Cacciatori, literally: the hunters.
According to investigators, Cordì is a mobster on the rise in the fierce Locri clan and the subject of a recent investigation by the Calabrian prosecutors.
Thousands of citizens have been reported for violating the ban on staying at home, according to data from the Ministry of the Interior.
In Sciacca, Sicily, a Covid-19 positive man who was forbidden from going out, was discovered by the police, while shopping. The Prosecutor’s Office opened an investigation and accused the man of “aiding the epidemic”. If convicted, he faces 12 years in prison.
The community council in my village have set up a scheme so we can all help the elderly and infirm, whether that be getting their shopping or prescriptions from town, or whatever. It’s really heartwarming to see the response.
My old boss used to be head of the Parrish council and generally a good bloke wanting to see the community come together to help each other.
During the floods (the village flooded a lot) we'd always take an afternoon to fill sandbags and load them onto pallets to be distributed around the village. Every year a poster would go up asking for more volunteers, but no one ever did turn up to help, they'd tell us how great it was to see the village pulling together etc, but they never helped. So we stopped!
I'd expect a week or two of people taking shopping round to their neighbours before lazy sods catch on that it's cheaper than paying for delivery and taking advantage.
I like personal space, but this was ridiculous for lunchtime. And I'm not really sure it counts as a good thing (although it was for us) - the poor sods that work there 🙁
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The end of shit hipster beards?! Your face mask won't fit with those whiskers sir...
The end of shit hipster beards?! Your face mask won’t fit with those whiskers sir…
It's microbiome keeps my immune system in tip top shape read to fight infections though 🧙♂️
Normalisation of homeworking and reduction in rush hour traffic
Except, of course, for the many, many jobs and industries that require people to operate machinery, serve people, etc, etc, etc.
Where I work, they often hold Skype meetings across the five national sites, but the nature of the work requires roughly 100 or so people to be on site, most are skilled car bodywork and paint technicians; not exactly a WFH situation...
People learning to cook from fresh ingredients a bit more and to try new foods.
Something my partner and I do most of the time. We have very little food wastage.
Mainly because I enjoy her cooking so much there’s never anything left on my plate!
I'll learn web development and cycle more
Actually, who am I kidding, I'll finally complete Netflix
A couple of years of this will see the planet smiling (if war is avoided)
Old lonely peeps might find a helpful neighbour or 2
Universal wage trials
Fragility of the current system completely exposed
People realise they don't need so much stuff
Communities supporting one another
Liverpool will never win the PL
Old lonely peeps might find a helpful neighbour or 2
I'm guessing that the old lady who lives opposite me is sick of people banging her door, asking if she needs anything. It takes her ten minutes to answer if she's upstairs, by which time whoever was knocking has gone.
I think people have been swear of the fragility of our system for some time, but that doesn't mean it's good for it to collapse, unless you are of the destroy and rebuild school of thought.
I am hoping for a greater acceptance of home working for those whose jobs are possible to do with some level of homeworking.
Everything else I think is wishful thinking.
Hopefully the value of the NHS should be clear by then.
Who will be left with the money to buy it?
If a vaccine does become available, the whole world will be queing for it. Might shut the anti-vaxers up.
This is going to save me a lot of money - had loads of weekends away planned (now all cancelled - music festival, Brewdog AGM etc) and was about to book/pay for a holiday in Spain.
All that cash can now go to my campervan fund.
No pub or restaurant trips either. So home cooking.
In general, it might get more people in to going for walks/bike rides?
I’m hoping to be a master brewer of tramp juice
Trampoline?
Normalisation of homeworking and reduction in rush hour traffic
In honesty, I've been arguing this for a while now. For a lot of professions there's increasingly little reason to trail into an office every day. Other than "for a bit of company" many desk-based jobs - mine included - can be done on the surface of the moon for the difference it makes so long as you have a telephone and an Internet connection. The only reason for these people to go to an office is because we've always done it that way (and as I've often said this is the worst reason to do anything) or because staff aren't trusted (in which case you've got the wrong staff).
I do wonder whether a successful mass WFH movement might persist to an extent, employers suddenly wondering why they're paying for a big building with a hundred people in it. Can but hope.
Something else I've just thought of.
Once the novelty of binge-watching the entirety of Breaking Bad in one sitting or lying in bed contemplating whether or not to go for your seventh J Arthur of the day wears off, maybe people will use the time to learn new skills or get jobs done that they've been putting off for years. I've seen a few folk on Facebook talking about learning a language or a musical instrument.
Probably wishful thinking for most though, given the amount of bog roll people are buying.
Eurovision Song Contest cancelled - hooray!
Eastenders stopped filming and Venice's canals cleaner, plus a noticable reduction in traffic and associated environmental impact.
Normalisation of homeworking and reduction in rush hour traffic
Take a major investment in IT for it to work smoothly for a lot of places, mine included as it's just not working.
On that,
It's finally pushed my workplace into migrating over to the new VPN system that we've had for customers for years but never used internally. Which is good, cos the old one was on its arse yesterday.
I had exactly the same thought yesterday when someone posted up their screenshot of Elite Dangerous with 2000+ hrs logged. Never gonna happen 😂😂😂maybe people will use the time to learn new skills or get jobs done that they’ve been putting off for years. I’ve seen a few folk on Facebook talking about learning a language or a musical instrument.
IR35 off payroll private sector changes postponed for a year 😉
Not scrapped, but it's a good thing for now in my book.
Trampoline?
Tramp-o-wine
On the news they said that the iplayer was going to have a lot more content available such like ISIHAC. WIN!!
The village shop is updating with deliveries and putting aside bread or whatever for people to pick up later
On top of that, my lads paper round has got two additional deliveries, as have the other rounds.
My lad hopes they survive till the Christmas tip season 🙄
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Cheers, that's me sorted now. Can hear again decent Lionel Blair comments as opposed to the post Yew Tree tame versions!
Not sure if it's been mentioned, but this will be the making of the BBC.
These next few months will show people how good it is, the quality of journalism there and why we should value i.
A slightly personal one here:
One of my colleagues is being taught the value of personal space! He is a total moron anyway but he has literally no concept of personal space during normal times, standing right next to you when he's talking to you etc. One of my other colleagues has just text me to say that he's just been suspended for still failing to observe the 1-2m rule the boss is implementing. Over the course of an hour he was warned multiple times with no effect so he's been sent home. He's not very popular so it's been a popular move judging by the judicious use of celebratory emoji's in said text.
Something positive from the lockin here in Spain is that I'm spending a lot more time with my wife and daughter, we're having lunch and dinner together every day - something that usually only happens at weekends.
I'm also catching up on a lot of reading, all those books bought on a whim and sitting on the Kindle unread...
I'm liking this news from the Grauniad
"Louis Vuitton owner LVMH has converted its perfume manufacturing at all its Christian Dior, Guerlain and Givenchy facilities to the production of sanitiser and giving to hospitals in France for free.
Spanish fashion chain Zara is turning over its logistics and manufacturing facilities to delivering 300,000 surgical masks by the end of the week to the health authorities.
It is also using its networks to source medical grade fabric for hospital gowns."
There is some good stuff out there
Managed to park on the 4th floor today, not the 7th 👍
Feral kids had come into the city centre and racing down the ramps in the car park on bikes as well!
Share value for Zoom has increased nearly 250% ... the company hit jackpot. 🙄
Free drinks for the NHS at certain outlets.
Oh wait! 😀
Big benefit is that finally the developed world will give a crap about pandemic preparedness and epidemics in the developing world.
sadly this is probably the best of the options we could have had as a highly infectious haemorrhagic disease would have brought everyone to their knees.
pandemics only become more common without control so the fact that this one has now affected those with money rather than the poor buggers no one cares about might force change
I am getting hardly any spam mail in my email account over the last couple of weeks.
Share value for Zoom has increased nearly 250% … the company hit jackpot. 🙄
Zwift and Wahoo are apparently doing very well out of this too.
Exam in June officially cancelled
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...we could have had as a highly infectious haemorrhagic disease would have brought everyone to their knees...
I was thinking the same. Surely no future govt is going to be party to running down the NHS again.
We may look back on this one as a blessing.
Very personal one this one. My lad has had an awful few months which has seen him miss a lot of school. He has been diagnosed with a severe case of anxiety that has been caused by what looks like autism (or lack of diagnosis to date).
He has turned the corner in the last month and is back at school and I dare say acting like an 11year old schoolboy. Typically the school is closing today, however whilst his actual diagnosis will no doubt be delayed in the coming months, the closure of schools means that he'll have a chance to catch up, and all his peers are having a disrupted year.
He also is just getting back on his bike and the postponement of the BMX season may work to his advantage here as well.
A very personal silver lining for our family, but I'll grab on to any positivity given our last 5months.
We have had similar over the last year. Out of nowhere (well almost, she has always been a bit clingy) one of our (then) nine yr olds went from attending school without issue to similar severe anxiety as your boy has experienced. Fast forward a year and she's been getting much, much better (at one point she was only going in 2 or 3 times a week) - she's now in every single day and was even about to go on a weeklong residential (albeit coming home on an evening for some of the week). Now, all of a sudden she is going to miss the final term of primary school and suddenly be thrust into secondary school in September (fingers crossed). Right now we have no idea how this one is going to pan out.
Zwift and Wahoo are apparently doing very well out of this too.
They're not the only ones.
Our suppliers have sold everything with a CPU and a screen - gone. My trade discount has been reduced to "web price mate" aka the same as consumers. Expecting stock early next week, we'll sell whatever we can get our hands on.
Nursing Agency we support is obviously flat out.
Not to mention any retailers who can sell beans, pasta, paracetamol or toilet paper has just had their biggest month in years.
Trails are getting dug...
@johndoh I feel for you, the jump from a tight knit primary school class (well that's what it eventually became for him) to the scale of secondary school was just too much for him.
Talk to the school at the earliest opportunity, ours have been amazing since it all came to a head, but I feel we as parents should may be have got hold of one or two little issues at the start, however my son is good at masking outside of the home. At home you know how he's feeling minute by minute, at the moment he's a chatty little so and so, so much so I want his meds dialled back a bit 🙂
Keynesian economics is back in vogue after several decades in the wilderness.
With the income support package just announced some directors are about to find out how to live on £10k a year. Maybe it will encourage them to take a proper wage from the company and increase the tax income to fund the NHS and other essential services.
p-jay - the response to 'web price mate' will come when we return to some sort of normality;
haven't had any order/enquiries from you - that's right mate, it's a competitive market; know what I mean?
4 day weekend here in Spain, glorious weather.. they usually pass in the blink of an eye but this one has just dragged on and I'm only half way.
100% hello response rate from roadies on the ride today. Never happened before!
Also, I can mince downhill (as usual) but claim I'm taking it easy to prevent an off and a needless trip to A&E!!
Not sure if it's been mentioned above, we may see a big reduction in litter and particularly McD, certainly near me it seems to be the biggest contributor ( I live about 3 miles away from 2 different drive throughs) - we also get some KFC litter too but nowhere near the McD level.
With them shutting we may see a local reduction in that litter.
Hopefully the general amount of litter will also start to reduce, fingers crossed if people start listening to the advice and acting upon it.
Harvey Weinstein has tested positive.
Every cloud, hey.
Harvey Weinstein has tested positive.
In this instance, the coronavirus has decided to self isolate
100% hello response rate from roadies on the ride today. Never happened before!
Likewise all the normally grumpy afternoon folk on the canal towpath and walkers out and about were really friendly.
Meanwhile, noticeably quiet in Surrey with very few planes. Roads quieter in rush hour and near empty outside of that.
While it may be only be a blip, it must make a difference to the environment.
The hope is maybe longer term people will realise they don't need to travel so much. More companies realising they can trust their staff at home.
Looks like the contactless limit is going up to £45. Also encouragement to pay by card if possible.
Could help speed up the transition to a cashless society, with added benefits of saving people and businesses money and reduction in crime.
The governments attitude to the NHS might now change and they'll invest considerably more.
Mini_oab has picked up 4 more houses on his paper round.
Someone might already have posted this, but as someone who works in NHS IT:
HOPEFULLY a step change in how people interact with healthcare services.
From the GP's side, that's better use of tech, from video consultation, text-based e-consultation or better telephone triage. We have a massive issue with low digital literacy in general practice and that needs to change. Before anyone thinks I'm bashing poor GPs when they're down, they're the people I work to support every day, and it's something that's well known and admitted on our patch. Tech can't do everything, but people also shouldn't be as resistant to progress as some of our GPs and their staff are. If that can be coupled with meaningful investment in that tech as well as the staff to deploy and support it and the people using it, double bonus.
From the public side, though, hopefully we might shake this horrible neurotic need to see a GP about every single little sniffle, or the determination to present at A&E if they can't get a face-to-face with a doctor immediately. Common sense has stopped being common, and maybe the "if you've got X symptoms, self-isolate" mentality will carry over beyond this situation. Some things you will always just need hot drinks and paracetamol for, and a watchful eye if it doesn't get better.
Mainly, even as an introvert, I'm hoping the mentality of looking out for friends, family and neighbours more continues. I generally hate being around other people, but having our neighbour offer to pick stuff up for us if we needed to isolate was very touching.
Lots of cheap turbos and treadmills coming up when it's (hopefully) over. 🙂
