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[Closed] What exactly is your view on Climate Change and Resource Depletion?

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 Smee
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My view is that we waste way too many resources and need to cut our consumption. On Climate Change, there is no proof that catastrophic climate change will occur as a result of man's activities.

Just give your view one sentence on each and nothing else.


 
Posted : 17/12/2009 7:10 pm
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Doesn't matter if there is or isn't man made global warming, we'll need a low carbon/renewables economy sooner or later due to fossil fuels running out so may as well get on with developing one now and stick two fingers up to OPEC.


 
Posted : 17/12/2009 7:17 pm
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Posted : 17/12/2009 7:19 pm
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Use it & enjoy it while we've got it..........


 
Posted : 17/12/2009 7:22 pm
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Goan that sums up my opinion perfectly. Over population and constant economic growth are the real problems.

What to do, thats the question but im not going to lose any sleep over it.

In the mean time im turning the heating up because it feels freezing here.


 
Posted : 17/12/2009 7:25 pm
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Best to understand the problem and then fix it, not just apply the first solution that fits our world view.

Also relevant to bike maintenance.


 
Posted : 17/12/2009 7:25 pm
 Kuco
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It happens naturally.


 
Posted : 17/12/2009 7:26 pm
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'Growth' and consumerism rather than health, happiness and equality. Cause of both.


 
Posted : 17/12/2009 7:27 pm
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Too many humans on this planet... the sooner we start to 'boldly go' the better.

Climate change is a natural process and will happen anyway - not sure to what extent human activity will affect it.


 
Posted : 17/12/2009 7:30 pm
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Actually all you neomalthusians out there are worng about the too many people thing. If we wee all veggies and didn't drive hummers we could support 40 billion


 
Posted : 17/12/2009 7:32 pm
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Population growth can't continue forever. Its only going to last so long until the death phase kicks.

Oil is not going to last forever, back to horses, more expensive transport, more expensive stuff....

We might not be DOOMED, but we are doomed to less stuff

Martin (the pessimist)


 
Posted : 17/12/2009 7:43 pm
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climate change happens naturally, however WE are changing the rate at which this happens drastically, and that this is going to cause huge problems for us in the future, with the poor and vulnerable suffering first/worst.

we (including I) use more resources than we should, and the ever growing world's population is only going to add to the problem - therefore we need to develop more efficient technologies and reduce consumption at the same time to prolong the resources we have.

and trust me, i know how hypocritical i can be at times (5 bikes, use the internet, heat my house and eat meat)

speaking of consumption, i'm off to consume large amounts of alcohol and fatty food.

OM NOM NOM NOM NOM

8)


 
Posted : 17/12/2009 7:54 pm
 will
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Quite bad. But I just don't care. I mean yes i'll recycle, but my eco-ness stops there 🙄


 
Posted : 17/12/2009 8:06 pm
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My view is that it is un-responsible to constantly consume in excess, but the way that human society works seems to mean that it will continue until the laziness/greed literally can't be sustained. I try to be conservative but I don't think enought people are on board.

As for global warming, I believe it happens naturally but humans are accelerating it, which means the environment will change far too quickly for many species (including us) to adapt to it. But it wouldn't be the first time - survival of the fittest/smartest/richest...


 
Posted : 17/12/2009 8:48 pm
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Burying my head in the sand like 90% of the population...

All i know now is we get warm and wet, and cold and wet as season's, nothing else!


 
Posted : 17/12/2009 8:55 pm
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I'm sitting on the shoulder-shrugging side of the fence in the apathy camp


 
Posted : 17/12/2009 9:16 pm
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Agree with OP and post 1.

Greed, waste, arrogance and inequality seem to sum up the human condition


 
Posted : 17/12/2009 9:18 pm
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we are screwed....

as a species we are far too short sighted. Climate change will happen - we as a species are just changing how quickly this happens. TOO many people in the world trying to live excessive western lives full of consumerism and take take all the time.

Overpopulation = wars for resources be they fossil fuels / water and food. Think mad max...

we are doomed i tell thee...

paul


 
Posted : 17/12/2009 11:41 pm
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humans worked ok in small hunter gatherer type nomadic groups where we don't put a strain on any ecosystem. As soon as we became locked into farming/towns/cities we were ****ed. We'll be a short lived species in geological time and any mess will sort itself out. If it can recover from a mass extintion incident it'll recover from our short term stupidity. Lifes too short to worry about pointless sh*te you can't and will never change, so be nice to people, accept that others see the world differently to you and stop to remeber that your inner child needs to be let out to play somethimes, otherwise you become a bitter and twisted person.

Oh yeh the most important thing to remember is "eat cake, drink tea, and pedal fast!"


 
Posted : 17/12/2009 11:56 pm
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A few legislative changes will fix everything at minimal cost to the tax payer.

1. All car exhausts to terminate in the passenger cabin. Result clean air, or less drivers.

2. All factory exhaust gases to be piped through the executive office air conditioners.

3. All factory liquid effluents to be mixed with executive water supply.

That way the industrialists won't have to spend huge amounts of money on PR to convince us that they are not polluting, because we're going to believe them aren't we?

4. Air traffic control measures be extended to include flying pigs... 😆


 
Posted : 18/12/2009 12:03 am
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We can't "save the planet", its a f***ing great piece of rock that will last billions more years before the dying sun expands and swallows it. However we are making a very nasty mess of the surface, the next big extinction is on the way and it's us, within a few millennia there will be no sign we ever existed. In the scheme of things the human era is a tiny fraction of the life of a tiny short lived world.

Get used to it and have a happy christmas


 
Posted : 18/12/2009 12:20 am
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If only people would read the IPCC report rather than spurting random crap.


 
Posted : 18/12/2009 2:18 am
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Just about everyone says "It's not my problem : somebody else should stop driving / stop having children / showering / holidays / .....

There is now way everyone is wrong. Therefore its someone elses problem.


 
Posted : 18/12/2009 2:31 am
 mboy
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What Tall Martin says...

Problem is less to do with what we are or should be doing/using when it comes to resources (anything in moderation is fine of course), more what to do with the population...

Since the end of WW2, a mere 64 years ago, the world population has tripled! YES, SERIOUSLY! Reducing your individual carbon footprint matters not a jot if the world population is in such rapid incline. Compared to even 10 or 15 years ago, I'm sure all of us are driving significantly more fuel efficient cars, living lower carbon footprint lifestyles etc. But if we're to continue populating the world at the current rate, we'll need to cut our carbon footprints by 10% or more EVERY decade, otherwise something bad is gonna happen!

Sorry for the long reply... I've studied all the theories about Climate Change to some extent. I try to sit on the fence a bit, live and let live and all that, I do my bit to be "green" just out of courtesy more than anything, but do also like foreign travel etc. But unless something kicks in to flatten the population growth curve (natural disasters, diseases, enforced culls, genocide, "baby licenses" etc.), we're all screwed no matter what. This planet quite simply wasn't built to house so many humans it would seem!


 
Posted : 18/12/2009 2:45 am
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look back at history!
civilizations have out striped their (finite) resources & collapsed,
we are doing it on a global scale.
But life will continue (but not as we know it)


 
Posted : 18/12/2009 7:41 am

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