[Closed] What classic / future classic car?

Impact bumper 911...SC?

A garage! Old British tin doesn't ten to weather well. An Elise should be ok mind.

Mazda RX8 I reckon will go down as a classic.

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A bit of get up and go...

Which ever one comes with a pot of degreaser and an Anorak.

possible future classics
S2000
Z350
TT 225bhp
997 911
RS4
a really really clean E46 M3

Yeah, V8 Stag whoop

Fiat barchetta or an unadulterated coupe.

The Elise's boot is less practical than the panniers on my KTM. How's about its unloved cousin the Europa?

Alfa Brera S (the 3.0 2wd version fettled by prodrive)

Sell a kidney?

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http://www.lindsayford.co.uk/Used-Car-Details/used-jaguar-xkr-42-supercharged-v8-automatic-coupe-black-auto-petrol-ID_626138.aspx

Stoner - Member
Mazda RX8 I reckon will go down as a classic.
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Really!?!? Mine was shit.

I had a porsche 944 turbo a good low milage coupe will go for about 13K and prices are on the up...

Clio Williams

I too would go with a Porsche 911, a Carrera or Targa but not the 4S Turbo trash. Something simple with the clean ethos of original Porsches design.. Try the 80's/ very early 90' s variants for most choice.
I've a mate that has a 90's Carrara sport, 3.2 and it's a lovely car, he uses it daily in town and it goes very well, still has enough power when he hops back to Herts to see his parents and yet blends in nicely and isn't a shorty car at all...

More than a kidney for that jag. Guy I work with has one (5litre supercharged) and he says he would be happy to get double figs for mp/g. What about a standard XK

I'd seriously consider renting a garage if you don't have access to one.

Even with a cover on cars will be get a lot of moisture on them and you will get rust on anything steel.

Impreza P1

Prolly the TR6 out of that list. 🙂

Whatever you buy, make sure it is mint.

Ford Cosworth
Lancia Delta
Subaru 22B
E30 M3
All already classics, you probably wouldn't lose money.

Cars that are starting to appreciate:
E34 M5
E39 M5
Honda Integra Type R
Lotus Elise
Focus RS
Pegeuot 106 rallye

there is a Mazda factory issued, early special edition MX5 Eunos M2-1001 for sale in Japan for approx £11K. It's low mileage, hasn't been messed around with and looks amazingly clean for a 21 year old car. They had upgraded suspension, engine and body mods and interior changes. They're rare as rocking horse poo in the UK.

http://www.goo-net-exchange.com/usedcars/EUNOS/EUNOS_ROADSTER/700973069420131125001/index.html

It'd probably be within budget (just) after shipping.

I had the money I'd be buying it and then mothballing it. That said it'd be plenty reliable as a daily driver and early 5's that haven't been modd'ed or rusting are starting to get hard to find. The BBR turbo editions and Le Mans etc are appreciating.

(ducks and awaits the usual flaming about hairdressers)

peugeot 106 xsi/rallye/gti/quicksilver

edit: damn.

balls. It would appear that my original link has changed and they're now advertising another M2 for approx £20K (the link shows a car with approx 34,000km on the clock, the one I was looking at had 64,000km).

Somewhere on goo-net is the 11K version, unless it's sold already...

Space for weekend bags and you say Elise? 😆

Whatever you decide on it will be worth more if it is totally standard with original parts. Old BMW's 325, etc are appreciating quite well.

Pembleton three wheeler Grasshopper with a Moto Guzzi 750 V Twin.

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I love Alfa's, really really love them, but I wouldn't feel happy if it lived under a cover

I had one of these

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and stored it in one of these

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from your original list, I'd get a BMW 2002. Lovely car and I would love to be able to afford one. Although rust is still a problem, I think they fare better than a 60's Alfa

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old style 70s 911 Targa? - mate had one of those, bloody lovely car. Quite a bit of work to keep it going though.
The soft top bit makes it harder. Saab 900 convertible?

Peugot 205 GTI / convertible?
even an old style Golf convertible - nothing fancy..
TVR as above - Tasmin / Chimaera?

A Lancia Fulvia or Montecarlo?

that bmw - *rubs thighs*

My neighbour has a griff 500.

Lovely sound, nice looking car. Money pit though 😉

Un hedged rb5
22b
P1
I like imprezas...

From your list, the only one I'd consider as feasible to be kept outdoors is the Lotus.

audi a2 😉

there's two issues with 22bs , finding one and then finding the £30k+ to buy it.

One can dream....

E46 M3, ideally a special edition like a CS. Doubt £15k would get a CSL unfortunately...
Z3M Coupe

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Audi WR Quattro.. ?

ttp://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/audi-ur-quattro-turbo-wr-2-1-classic-not-rs-/141224014762?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item20e19b73aa

peugeot 106 xsi/rallye/gti/quicksilver

+1 Always regretted not keeping my second GTi in diablo red.

Z3M Coupe

Z4M Coupe would be just about within budget I think...

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66 V8 Mustang?
Me and My Dad shared one of these for about 10 years, imports from Florida will be rust free (might need a paint job tho). Lovely to drive, V8 sounds lovely, get lots of admiration and rare enough to turn every head.

my line of thought would suggest cars like stags etc are going to need a fair bit of tinkering to keep them good, even once restored. Something like an older BMW or a Jap car, I would have thought would be less aggro if that's what you are after and probably more straight forward getting parts etc. IMHO May be proven wrong though.

If you can find one… Gorgeous cars.

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Ford racing puma. Low numbers, largely not thrashed. Not expensive to run. Look at the price of cosworth, xr3 and xr4is, to see where these will go.also quite understated I'm everyday use.

From your list I too would say TR6. I would also agree not outside, not for any classic you are trying to "cherish".

The Lancis Fulvia crossed my mind too and I reckon the Z3 Coupe is definitely a contender for future classic. Unique looks and a boot big enough to carry lots of [s]spares[/s] weekend luggage.

Abarth 500... almost went for one of these last month that looked like a real bargain, but bottled it and got a standard 500. Kind of regretting it now!

I'd be onto an M5 either E34 or E39, supercar performance, family saloon practicality. Nice noise too!

Can't see the Elise appreciating for quite a long time. They're still considered track day toys, rather than cherished future classics (even the old ones).

They are, however, utterly brilliant and if you're considering another pointless pass-time they're a complete hoot on a track day. If you do go down that route, it'll cost a few quid to keep it running and you won't get that back when you sell. They're happy to live outside if used regularly but may need some farting about with the roof and seals to keep the inside dry. A new roof is about £400

For a proper classic, the TR6 (or TR4 / 5) are really really really nice cars and quite sought after if they're mint. It'll rot in the rain tho

elises have already appreciated. i was looking a few years ago, and anything i would have considered ( S1 ) is now up by about 2-3k. bonkers. try and find a 111s.....
similar story with cat 7s.
have been looking at boxsters recently and reckon the earlier ones are about bottom of market now.
out of your original list i wouldn't touch any of them tbh. older classics have all the histrionics of proper sports cars without the performance, though undoubtedly have charm.
i wouldn't bother with a(nother) tvr. tubular steel chassis is vulnerable. unless you can find one that someone has spunked a load of cash on restoring, but even then expect 'interim' visits to the menders, to get the bits that fall off bolted back on.
if you must then the griff/chimeara are probably the most 'sensible' option, as there's lots of choice, and they're pretty sorted, for tvrs. written as someone who's done over 45k miles in one. great fun though. do not, under any circumstances, floor a 5L in second gear, in anything other than a straight line. then expect it not to be a straight line. 😀

My other half's grandad has a Stag. He had it shipped over from California about 10 years ago. While over there it had done about 3000 miles and then stood in a garage ever since. Since it came over here it has stood in a garage! Still only done a few thousand miles. Not normally my cup of tea but it's lovely.

I'll keep hold of my '07 325i if it's going to up in value 😉

Can't see the Elise appreciating for quite a long time. They're still considered track day toys, rather than cherished future classics (even the old ones).

Resold mine for what I paid for it after 4 years of ragging. I'd say it's a good bet (Mk1 1998, bought @ 3 years old I think) - they are still seeling now for what I paid, and give it 10 years and most will be in bits from flipping into fields.

Incredibly good fun regardless of appreciation whilst you have it 🙂

Defo the Elise - can't think of anything else that would fit the bill given the circumstances and they're definitely on the up. It's not the best model but a Mk1 with MMC discs would be the one to go for for investment potential but then your situation even for a reasonably hardly (not rusty) car like the Elise isn't ideal. You might stretch to a 111s which is apparently the best road option and I have to say I loved the 2 years I spent with mine. Was never tracked but never missed a beat and was always pushed.

I'd go have a look at this one [url= http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/lotus/elise-s1/lotus-elise-s1--rare-mmc-car/2158183?isexperiment=true ]Rare MMC car - £12995[/url]

or this if you could haggle/push the budget as it looks perfect - [url= http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/lotus/elise-s1/2000-w-elise-s1-111s-19-000-miles-one-owner-from-new/2069163?isexperiment=true ]Black 111s - £16995[/url]

Good luck wish I was in that position.

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Eh? 17 grand for an old 111S? That's entirely bonkers, don't care how shiny it is

Carcoon is not a substitute for a garage jools , condensation and humidity will kill it worse than being out n the air.

In conjunction wi a garage & dehumidifier they work well , lad i know keeps his classic parading porsche in one in his garage.

Alfa Romeo GTV

Peugeot 205 gti.

Renault 5 turbo, nova gsi, sierra cosworth & xr4x4, subaru legacy.

Z4M Coupe would be just about within budget I think...

I purposely didn't say a Z4M though 😉

My car never had condensation in the carcoon

It has constant air flow, that's the whole idea

Mazda RX8 I reckon will go down as a classic.

Now obviously I'm biased, being a fan of all things RX7, but I get that not everyone wants to be so involved in the maintenance of their classic. An easier £15k would be spent on one of the original S30 Nissan/Datsun Z cars:
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mrbelowski - Member
Eh? 17 grand for an old 111S? That's entirely bonkers, don't care how shiny it is

You're not wrong - it's what I paid for my 2 year old 5000 mile one back in 2001 but that's the market for you. Think they bottomed out at about 11-12 and it can only go up from there.

Citroen c6 is a good bet for a future Classic IMO . Would need a lot of 'tinkering' to keep it running smoothly though being a big complicated citroen. Very cool car I reckon and becoming 'affordable' nowadays compared to their original price.

My tuppence would be that an actual classic would be a better investment, but expect to be tinkering. My problem with anything new is the tolerances in tge engine are so tight that when they start to wear it writes the car off as only higger end places can re build them, your average engineering shop wont be able to put an engine in something like an S2000 back to new. And thats the critical thing, no one wants a ropey one with a 150,000 mile engine.

An MGB V8 will still put a smile on your face, but is fixable by anyone, and likely appreciate.

If you're after a modern or future classic, consider the cars that young people want and will have money for on say 10 years. As a 30 year old now who is less guided by insurance group/mpg I was looking at r32, Cupra r, focus rs etc. easy money as an investment... An older, interesting vw. Maybe a 4x4 golf from the continent?

Sportier and different I have to second the Nissan/Datsun z cars. Lush

Yeh, I was going to say an early Z car too. Prices of those had risen in recent years and I can't imagine they'd ever drop. Right age, stunning looks and right kind of rarity...

70s Skyline GT-R?

I've thought of another... Renault Clio V6.
That is going two ways, either backwards through a hedge or up in value.

Reliant Scimitar GTE, its one that I wish to own someday.

If you want to hold onto your money and eventually have it grow again, get a Morgan (V8 preferably!), they are beautiful if you get the right one and you couldn't get anything more british.

VW Corrado VR6 storm, or a Campaign edition if you can find one. Good ones are getting harder to find, and only 500 storms were made.

You can pick up a low mileage Roller for the cost of a new hatchback. Drop a diesel in it and you're good to go. 🙂

Morris Marinas are going to be worth money purely because those that didn't rust away were destroyed by falling pianos, so rarity value will be high, and you'll be able to hire it out for movies.

I think any of the low volume British cars that had fibreglass bodies would be a good buy. Usually there's an owners club, so body parts are easily sourced, and their consumable mechanical parts are from mass production cars, so also easily sourced.

A car I would consider is the Smart Roadsters. In 10 years time we may have to sell a kidney for fuel, so small engines will be in greater demand, and the mechanical parts are still being made for the normal Smart cars.

Golf mk4 R32

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just over budget at 16.5k but worth it

http://www.4startrade.com/Aston-Martin-DB7-FOR-SALE/

Glad a couple of folk mentioned r32s as that is what I have invested in as my appreciating classic of the future, fingers crossed, but even if it doesn't it makes me my smile every time I drive it!

blastit - Member
just over budget at 16.5k but worth it

Went straight to the site all excited, but no car.

Did you buy it? How many bikes can you get in the back?

No didn't buy saw it on http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C369912e
they must of forgot to update it, was placed on 6 feb so quite fresh.

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here http://www.scottishmotorservices.co.uk/used-cars/aston-martin-db7-fh-2dr-auto-glasgow-201311189987125

Early 2 door metal grill RangeRover - although prices are already firm.

Nice 80" Series1 land rover or a Safari roofed Series2 109 CSW?

[url= http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/classic_cars.php?category=3&make=&region=&country=&era=&advert_type=&price=7&keyword=&S.x=66&S.y=19&S=Search ]Plenty of ideas here[/url] Formy money it'd be more bikes. A vintage hetchins like this one: http://www.theoldbicycleshowroom.co.uk/1967-hetchins-vade-mecum-2-hellenic-4138-p.asp

And a pashley apb.

Then I'd go on lots of holidays with the remaining 10K

blastit, the photo of that car is taken at the bottom of the steps outside my house. SMS take all their pics there.

They often have some nice cars in, worth keeping an eye out.

Worldclassaccident what is that? It looks like a Z3 but with a modified body.

Some interesting ideas on here, just one made me suck through my teeth, the Clio V6. It's a short car with a 13m turning circle which means it's sporting credentials are zero, nul, nix. Our current rather long people carrier thingy has an 11m turning circle.

Madame wanted a 2CV but then, thank you God, saw a rather long people carrier thingy which requires a once-a-year service by somebody other than me.

Whatever you buy, let the love of your life choose, your life will become better I promise.

Edukator - Troll
Some interesting ideas on here, just one made me suck through my teeth, the Clio V6. It's a short car with a 13m turning circle which means it's sporting credentials are zero, nul, nix.

classic does not, necessarily, equal good. Desirable, low numbers, different, etc, does.