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What an evening.....
Got an invite to the Florence Rowing Club. One of the GF's client invited us along. Never had to hide my rough'n'ready roots or my opinions so much*....
Turned out there was an international event with teams from various countries.
Loads of toffee Brits.
Never met so many ****ing hoorah Henrys in my life. What a bunch of Berks.
Just some of the phrases I had to endure....
"oh ya, I've been at Cambridge"
"I'm a cox**"
"today I'm wearing Dolce and Gabanna"
"what school did you attend? ***"
Despite all that, the surprising thing was how many of these people believed in an alternative agenda... **** knows how we got onto that topic... Think it was one of the boatshoe wearing Henrys talking about the up coming election. The amount of nodding and agreement that arised when they spoke about a new government agenda, how we are being controlled by 5g via the American government.
****ing surreal evening.
I'm probably a lot more pissed now than I would have been had we not met these people or got onto such random topics.
What a bunch of psychotic and jaded twunts.
*for the sake of my GF and her relationships/reputation
**spelling is dependant on the role, but still questionable because I really thought he was a *.
you've probably never heard of it you upper class ****.
Really hard to describe how ****ed up this evening was.
At some point one of the group got onto the topic of Nato and Ukraine.
The idea that Nato had instigated the war and that Putin was reacting to western aggression wasn't challenged by anyone but me.... I got talked down when I suggested that it was bollocks.... It was a proxy war, instigated by the US to expand its aggression.
I went and got another beer.
**** me, I've not drunk this much in ages and I drink a lot.
This ain't good for me sanity.
These people are dcking crazy
That was kinda my reaction.
Trying to keep a straight face and not say anything "controversial".... The lady that invited us it's one of the GF's biggest clients.
Go to bed.
And in the morning just ponder if it's possible that the world might be made up of people that do not exactly think the danger way you do.
Or do we all have to have the same view?
#stw
Despite all that, the surprising thing was how many of these people believed in an alternative agenda… **** knows how we got onto that topic… Think it was one of the boatshoe wearing Henrys talking about the up coming election. The amount of nodding and agreement that arised when they spoke about a new government agenda, how we are being controlled by 5g via the American government.
One of the few services the likes of, erm, the "soon to be non influential people in our democracy" have done is to show that huge privilege and the best schooling money can buy doesn't seem to have a good outcome much of the time. Either in intelligence or character, more importantly.
It's been a painful lesson but an important one.
Anyway, sod 'em, you did right by your missus and you can see what they are, which is more than that are able to do.👍😁
#nothingwilleverchange
I do find that being exposed to some one who believes things that really can’t be true is disconcerting
A guy i was at school with posted a link to a thing on “X” about how the world was controlled by WHO with covid and climate change both made up to add to their power
How many pairs of red trousers though?
These are the important details.
world was controlled by WHO with covid
Yeah, that came up, too.
How many pairs of red trousers though?
Lost count. Oh and polka dot dresses.
The number of "ooh yar... I from Lohndon, too"..... I'm thinking no you ain't, at least not from my end.
Surreal evening.
I'd have had to leave the conversations all together or were you at dinner tables ?
How's the headache ?
Surreal evening.
I need to know, raging hangover?
Or are you one of those lucky devils that is happy and sprightly the morning after a good beer! If so, I hate you!😁
You seem very triggered. Hmm. You must be aware of all the different factors leading up to the invasion of Ukraine? eg, the 2014 Donbas war, threat of NATO expansion, etc etc, I'm not going to go over all the points leading up to it and triggers? Many commentators have been saying more or less this long before the invasion:
**Sorry, link to extremist left wing propaganda rag...**
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/feb/28/nato-expansion-war-russia-ukraine
So given the various facts and the various perspectives, why are you struggling with the reality that you will meet people with different but equally valid opinions to your own? Seems a very, erm, socialist reaction.
huge privilege and the best schooling money can buy
Obviously those @alpin were talking to did not receive the "best education" as their critical thinking seems a bit off and their humility has not been enhanced.
Being from Lincolnshire we look down on the people who had to go to public schools. We still have the grammar school system there, so the bright ones went there, those who failed the 11+ but who's parents had money went to public school and those without money went to the local comp. So us grammar school boys tend to think of the public school boys as a bit thick🤷
I need to know, raging hangover?
Or are you one of those lucky devils that is happy and sprightly the morning after a good beer! If so, I hate you!
Sorry poop.... I'm feeling kinda sprightly.
The crazy thing is, the GF's client who invited us along to this regatta is a very successful lady. Gives TED talks, deals with lots of big businesses and jets around the world to meet some very influential people.
(Not going to out her here because it's bloody lucrative for the GF.)
There was a drone buzzing along the river filming the boat racing. That turned the topic to brain chips being implanted by drones and 5G being used to manipulate the people's subconscious.
I'm just as in awe of last night now as I was last night.
It felt like a bad dream.
Obviously those @alpin were talking to did not receive the “best education” as their critical thinking seems a bit off and their humility has not been enhanced.
I don't know how true it is now but a lot of these "best schools" have a reputation for their debating societies.
The aim is just winning the argument. Not critical thinking or humility or accepting that you're on the wrong side of the argument and adjusting your views.
And sadly, that has been brought into politics over the last few decades since most of the politicians go to Eton/Winchester/Repton and then onto Oxbridge where such debating societies thrive and you get the likes of Boris Johnson who can bullshit and bluster and spin til the cows come home.
It's why politicians (and folk like @alpin encountered) can hold forth on a topic and sound reasonably knowledgeable but as soon as they're questioned on it they get all tetchy and start talking down at you, talking over you and just lording their privilege to end the argument.
I keep remembering snippets of conversations.
Location was nice, though....
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Location was nice, though….
Understatement of the century.
I'll happily swap in for you in future events if in locations like that. 😁
and 5G being used to manipulate the people’s subconscious.
Wish someone/thing would control my subconscious so I'm not permanently wracked by anxiety, and procrastination. Or, maybe 'they' already are, and that was 'their' plan all along... 🤔 I've had covid jabs too, and my phone doesn't like 5g...maybe that's because I'm taking all the 5g signal strength...
Should I be worried STW??
Yeah but...
Any group that has a strong internal links will be an echo chamber, you just happened to be in one that you've never encountered before. High thee along to the election thread and read some of comments on @Cougars local group and you'll hear the equally retarded views of folks who weren't born with sliver spoons in their mouths.
#dontmentionreversesnobbery
Understatement of the century.
The wine weren't bad, either.... Nor the various aperitivo drinks....
TBF, spoke to a few Italians and none of them were ****s, just the Brits.
How many pairs of red trousers though?
These are the important details.
Ooh! Was there anyone wearing a sweatshirt around their neck or Polo shirt with the collar up?
I've never really got inverted snobbery or any snobbery for that matter - it normally comes from some sort of inferiority complex or jealousy. People are people in my experience; some are fine and some aren't so fine.
With the brain chipping; i don't know how you can think it's not a conspiracy with companies such as Neuralink et al who have the active aim of creating a brain / computer interface....
But @alpin, how do you square all that with you being a Sovereign Citizen and everything? Just drop that little dog egg into the convo and you'll slide right in like the unlubed D-O-C ...
“today I’m wearing Dolce and Gabaaaaaaanna”
FTFY.
“what school did you attend? ***”
I was actually on the receiving end of this line when I went to Cambridge for my interview 😂
I hadn't really clocked that "privilege" was a thing by that point, and day 1 had all been state school kids so everything felt fairly normal and we'd all been to the pub to get pissed the night before (and being a load of engineering geeks had orchestrated 3-blind-mice played across an organ of part drunk pints of cider down the table, which illustrates how much cider may have been drunk). So it was a bit of a shock on the 2nd night when the private school kids turned up in their blazers and didn't want to come out with us.
The weirdest thing was the undertone of passive-aggressive-competitiveness form them. Day 1 we'd all been comparing notes on interviewers, figuring out how the exam had gone and the general feeling was that everyone wanted everyone else to succeed. That evaporated pretty quickly!
I was actually on the receiving end of this line when I went to Cambridge for my interview
Reminds me of the articles written a few years ago of a Chap (Damien Furness) experience of spending an evening in the bar at an Oxford interview with Johnson and his hangers on.
Not such a jolly chap after all (to the surprise of no-one )
It's an odd one, until that point hadn't had any negative interactions with anyone. I can't really comment on the actual university / college, maybe the ones that run the interviews are self selecting 'nice' people that want to help or disproportionately the ones that need a job over the half term breaks when the interviews are.
So I'd defend the university / college itself as not being elitist beyond the entry requirements meaning they're going to get a disproportionate number of private school kids with AAA grades. But there's definitely a class of people there who fit the stereotypes.
With the brain chipping; i don’t know how you can think it’s not a conspiracy with companies such as Neuralink et al who have the active aim of creating a brain / computer interface….
What!? You think that research into a brain computer interface is evidence that (checks notes, from the OP) "we are being controlled by 5g via the American government"?
If you want to see the red trousers collar up polo shoulder jumper crew come spend the rest of your week here with me in Wilmslow-on-Sea(Abersoch).
What!? You think that research into a brain computer interface is evidence that (checks notes, from the OP) “we are being controlled by 5g via the American government”?
But 5g coverage is crap,
If you want to see the red trousers collar up polo shoulder jumper crew come spend the rest of your week here with me in Wilmslow-on-Sea(Abersoch).
Any Schöffel gilets?
But 5g coverage is crap,
Yeah but only because valiant values-oriented warriors keep destroying the towers. Otherwise you'd see all the normies shuffling around like vaccinated WHO controlled zombies being all woke and triggered everywhere like the bunch of snowflakes they are.
We got the gilets, Yeti flasks and Stanley mugs, Jetskis and Seadoos. Overpimped 90s Defenders in purple metallic paint (like an X-lite xc ski bar end) seem to be a new thing to me since I was last here.
Oh and polka dot dresses.
Takes me straight back to Papa and Nicole adverts...
I’ve never really got inverted snobbery or any snobbery for that matter – it normally comes from some sort of inferiority complex or jealousy.
Bollocks.
One guy wearing a straw hat asked me what it is I do. I said "I'm a carpenter".
He looked really confused.... didn't really know where to go with the conversation.
One girl asked whether we lived in Florence. Her face was a mix of confusion, repulsion and perhaps intrigue when I told her that we live in a van. Even more confused when I told her no, not just for holidays, but full time for nigh on two years.
But @alpin, how do you square all that with you being a Sovereign Citizen and everything?
That new to me!
when I told her that we live in a van. Even more confused when I told her no, not just for holidays, but full time for nigh on two years.
Never knew this. I got the impression you travelled around Europe a bit but no idea you were doing the van life thing (I *don't* mean that negatively!)
I'm dead envious.👍
I think living out a van to be a bit alternative too.
I'd do it if I was younger and wanted to travel and work around world. Not sure my 46 year old back could deal with it though.
I've been to a couple of parties before where it was obvious that the people there had been lucky to have a much more privileged upbringing to myself. They generally were decent folk but had a very blinkered view of the world IME, I did find their high levels of confidence and expectations in life to be interesting and counter to most of the people I'm normally surrounded by.
They generally were decent folk but had a very blinkered view of the world IME
Mrs 750 used to work with a woman in London who thought everyone north of London lived in a council house
Oh, and 41 here and no intention of giving up this lifestyle in five years!
Got a pic of the van somewhere nice mate?
Please dont feel obligated to post a pic though! I'm purely living vicariously.😁
They generally were decent folk but had a very blinkered view of the world IME
I was at a Stirling Council consultation evening on proposed budget cuts. It happened the group I was allocated to was chaired by a friend who worked as senior manager in Stirling Council, and so afterwards I could corroborate what the lady said as my brain struggled to keep up.
Topic: reduce garden waste 'brown bin' collections to once a fortnight from once a week.
Statement from pearl wearing Mrs Bucket wannabe in UPPER Bridge of Allan with a half acre of garden:
[i]"I don't know why some houses cannot have two bins and you remove them from other properties. I mean, in LOWER Bridge of Allan they are all on drugs and no-one looks after their gardens as they have to sell the lawnmower to pay for the drugs...."[/i]
An important detail is my friend chairing the group lives in an ex council house in lower Bridge of Allan...
@crazy-legs some of the places I've frequented when younger would have Tarquin and his ilk introduced to the four by clue with that attitude. 😀
Nice to see the traditions of the Grand Tour are still flourishing.
Surprised to see that much conspiracy bollox floating around in that demographic though. Shows how deeply infected our society is when it's become mainstream establishment thinking.
The aim is just winning the argument. Not critical thinking or humility or accepting that you’re on the wrong side of the argument and adjusting your views.
Sorry, are we talking posh schools or STW?
Sorry, are we talking posh schools or STW?
Or Hustler's University?
A year in a T2 was enough for us, but then a T2 isn't a modern motor home with mod cons. And I quite like a social life with regular meet ups with familiar faces. Being on the road some of the year is fine, all the time starts to feel more aimless and pointless than being aimless and pointless at "home".
I share your view of the class divide, I think being out of the UK for 35 years has made me more aware and less tolerant of it. But I know how to make the right noises if necessary - you could have truthfully replied "small business - festival services and set building" - because that's how they work, bullshit and bollocks. You never know you might get some lucrative work if you want it. 😉
My sister is into sailing and some of her mates are "interesting", I'm not even sure they're mates, she often refers to them as "contacts". I'm the scruffy brother who keeps refusing drinks. When I was into motorsport I found the people in the bar at Brands Hatch unbearable and was happier sat outside on the grass with a bottle of water. Yeah some people make me itch.