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http://www.bbc.com/news/business-42052743

British Airways is introducing a boarding policy that means those buying the cheapest seats will be called last.
From 12 December, passengers will be assigned a number between 1-5 printed on boarding passes, with the highest figure reserved for economy fares.
BA said the move is about simplifying the boarding process, and bringing it into line with other carriers, including American Airlines and Iberia.
But BA was accused of operating a class system and further eroding perks.
The number "one" will be given to first class passengers, with others assigned to other segments such as Executive Club or World Traveller Plus.

Though honestly I'm amazed they didn't actually have a priority boarding sorted already.


 
Posted : 20/11/2017 1:05 pm
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Though honestly I'm amazed they didn't actually have a priority boarding sorted already.

About 2 months ago on the last BA flight I got, they called people forward based on "class" , e.g. First class, World Traveller Gold or something like that, World Traveller Silver, etc. then finally economy (or "all other remaining passengers").


 
Posted : 20/11/2017 1:10 pm
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I'd rather get on last. Plane isn't going anywhere until we are all on it.


 
Posted : 20/11/2017 1:11 pm
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On the last BA flight I got (about 2 months ago) they called people forward based on "class" , e.g. First class, World Traveller Gold or something like that, World Traveller Silver, etc. then finally economy (or "all other remaining passengers").

been that way for decades....


 
Posted : 20/11/2017 1:12 pm
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I'd rather get on last. Plane isn't going anywhere until we are all on it.

Good luck getting you luggage in a locker anywhere near your seat or even within cabin. This is the reason people queue up


 
Posted : 20/11/2017 1:13 pm
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I'd rather get on last. Plane isn't going anywhere until we are all on it.

From my experience that just means needing to squeeze your hand luggage 7 rows back and deal with the idiots who don't get that row 27 is 27 rows back...

It's also not aimed at the person who books the cheapest ticket


 
Posted : 20/11/2017 1:13 pm
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been that way for decades....

Yes, I'm not sure what the story is


 
Posted : 20/11/2017 1:14 pm
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I'd rather get on last. Plane isn't going anywhere until we are all on it.

I'd rather be sure of putting my bag in the overhead locker.

Flight is going to be an arseache if I can't get my feet under the seat in front.


 
Posted : 20/11/2017 1:14 pm
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I like to sit near the back anyway, you get off quicker, nearer the toilets and the trolley is out of your way a lot sooner. Then again I just seem to fly easyJet or Ryanair!


 
Posted : 20/11/2017 1:14 pm
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short haul Europe you have to pay for snacks - little point in paying extra for BA shirt haul

But priority boarding is not new, just annoying when you lose your gold card!!


 
Posted : 20/11/2017 1:15 pm
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But priority boarding is not new, just annoying when you lose your gold card!!

Should be printed on your boarding pass, or is the UK that far behind on air travel?


 
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I like to sit near the back anyway, you get off quicker.....Then again I just seem to fly easyJet or Ryanair!

You can tell. BA tends to be front door loading only as they pay the extra 50p to let you use the airbridge


 
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I'd rather get on last. Plane isn't going anywhere until we are all on it.

This, I've never understood this mad scrum to get into a seat you'll be DYING to get out of again ASAP. I'd happily be the last on.


 
Posted : 20/11/2017 1:18 pm
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To be honest, what London airways, sorry BA, do is largely irrelevant to anyone living north of Watford.

Couldn't give a shit what they do. I think two sectors of my last 200 flights have been with BA.


 
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Doesn't make sense. Priority boarding already happens. It usually goes disabled/parents with babies/very old people first, then First and business class. Then Premium Economy and 'Gold status' members traveling in economy. Then load the aircraft from the rear to the front to make for quicker and more efficient loading.

Boarding on the basis of ticket price doesn't make sense. There is a massive variation in ticket price depending on when you purchased your ticket. A lot of people are still walking to the gate when their tickets are called anyway because they're either timing it to the second or grab that extra pint at the bar before heading for the gate.

Now if they're trying out a different ticket pricing model where you can pay a premium for early boarding then fair enough. At least you know what your paying for.


 
Posted : 20/11/2017 1:21 pm
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doesnt matter if your flying with fellow brits....

the minute the first call is made regardless of whats said - its a ****ing rammy to get on the plane - it doesnt matter which country your in - if its a british airways flight with mostly brits you can watch it happen as if its in the script.

i do love it when the gate staff make a stand and scan their ticket then tell them to go away ... rarely happens though.

im quite happy to let the scrum massive take place i just get on at the end. never had an issue getting my bag near me - except the 1 and only time i flew turkish to turkmenistan - with the ladies taking back huge bags of stuff to sell ramming the overheads to capacity and more.


 
Posted : 20/11/2017 1:26 pm
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You can tell. BA tends to be front door loading only as they pay the extra 50p to let you use the airbridge

Ooh, it’s like a glimpse into the lives of royalty. ‘Doffs flat cap’


 
Posted : 20/11/2017 1:27 pm
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Why would I want to get on board a metal tube and sit in a cramped seat for more than one second longer than necessary?

Happy to be last here.


 
Posted : 20/11/2017 1:32 pm
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If you fly domestic in the US you will be used to this with wave numbers assigned at check in.

BAs an embarassment frankly. I had a short trip to San Fran a few weeks back in business. At dinner time they didn't actually seem to have any food left which was interesting. I eventually scabbed an economy meal ! And the layout is awful *1st world complaint*


 
Posted : 20/11/2017 1:35 pm
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Should be printed on your boarding pass,

It is, so you can't use an out of date gold card etc.

If you fly domestic in the US you will be used to this with wave numbers assigned at check in.

yep Delta has about 367 different classes, all of which get called one by one...


 
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Why would I want to get on board a metal tube and sit in a cramped seat for more than one second longer than necessary?

Saves the rush, easy to get settled in with less people around, luggage is always above my head or just in front and I have time to get sorted for the flight. An extra few mins is nice as normally I'll be off well ahead of most people too.


 
Posted : 20/11/2017 1:40 pm
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Saves the rush, easy to get settled in with less people around, luggage is always above my head or just in front and I have time to get sorted for the flight. An extra few mins is nice as normally I'll be off well ahead of most people too.

This. Esp if you only travel with hand luggage.


 
Posted : 20/11/2017 1:41 pm
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Much amusement on my latest BA flight, to Las Vegas sadly.

As above, boarding calls were made in order of priority. The gate area was heaving, so as soon as I heard the call, I strolled forward. Cue a chap barging past me, and a number of other passengers, yelling, "Out of my way! Priority boarding!"

He reached the passport/ticket desk just ahead of me, only to be told that his Bronze card counted for approximately the square root of bugger all. I was called forward and greeted with overly theatrical schmooze while he was made to wait in shame.

Priority boarding as it is works fine, if/when it's enforced.


 
Posted : 20/11/2017 2:09 pm
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Do it well and you’re snoozing before the doors are closed


 
Posted : 20/11/2017 2:10 pm
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Won't affect me in club. I'm sat quaffing champagne whilst the peasant board.


 
Posted : 20/11/2017 2:10 pm
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Priority boarding as it is works fine, if/when it's enforced.

Last flight was to Lagos, Nigeria. The priority boarding queue was full of economy passengers as all Nigerians feel they should be first. It was actually quicker to board via the economy queue, which was completely empty....


 
Posted : 20/11/2017 2:31 pm
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I’m not racist but......


 
Posted : 20/11/2017 2:36 pm
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http://metro.co.uk/2017/09/27/british-airways-hostess-sacked-for-snapchat-rant-against-nigerian-passengers-6958434/

There are certainly some people who assume that the rules dont count for them. See mainland China as an example.


 
Posted : 20/11/2017 2:40 pm
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This. Esp if you only travel with hand luggage.

yep people who travel with only hand luggage and thus the absolute maximum size bag stuffed to the gunnels then moan about not being able to get it right above their head....


 
Posted : 20/11/2017 2:45 pm
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See, the chancers dont get sent to the back of the queue, they just sit at the front letting the next priority boarding customer through. Win/win for them - occasionally blag an early start into cattle class, or they are first in line to get on when their 'offical' time comes.

Now, the real chancers are the ones that have a 'rest' in a Club seat on the long walk to economy, and sometime forget to complete their journey. Well, until booted further down by the cabin crew...


 
Posted : 20/11/2017 2:46 pm
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Now, the real chancers are the ones that have a 'rest' in a Club seat on the long walk to economy, and sometime forget to complete their journey.

Had one of them in my seat on a flight to Miami a few months ago. I politely pointed out the error of his ways. He refused to budge. Cabin crew ensured he budged. 🙂


 
Posted : 20/11/2017 2:51 pm
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Or the ones that don't know the difference between aisle and window...... Now gtf out my aisle seat.


 
Posted : 20/11/2017 2:53 pm
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[i] 1-5 printed on boarding passes, with the highest figure reserved for economy fares.[/i]

Maybe folk who book discounted flights will be in the 4/5 range. I fear for those with a 5, if it's anything like the Virgin flight I was on last - they left people til last (like me and my son and another family) and tried* to say they would put us in whatever seat was available, which may not be together! The family had a 5 or 6 year old who they tried to sit separately! It wasn't like we had bargain seats either - I'd paid full whack and booked mine well in advance. Bastards. I won't be flying with Virgin again.

*Luckily, a nice chap moved seats so jr could sit with me.


 
Posted : 20/11/2017 2:59 pm
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I can't see the issue unless they start sticking labels on your coat.


 
Posted : 20/11/2017 3:00 pm
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See mainland China as an example.

Also AbuDhabi on same home from China flight... 😯


 
Posted : 20/11/2017 3:01 pm
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I can't see the issue unless they start sticking labels on your coat.

I think forehead tattoos would be better...


 
Posted : 20/11/2017 3:04 pm
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It's BA - embedded RFID chips is more their style.


 
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I can't see the issue unless they start sticking labels on your coat.

What about FF tags on hand luggage? When I come to power they'll be up against the wall. Especially anyone putting a bronze tag on.


 
Posted : 20/11/2017 3:07 pm
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1-5 printed on boarding passes, with the highest figure reserved for economy fares.

Maybe folk who book discounted flights will be in the 4/5 range. I fear for those with a 5, if it's anything like the Virgin flight I was on last - they left people til last (like me and my son and another family) and tried* to say they would put us in whatever seat was available, which may not be together! The family had a 5 or 6 year old who they tried to sit separately! It wasn't like we had bargain seats either - I'd paid full whack and booked mine well in advance. Bastards. I won't be flying with Virgin again.

*Luckily, a nice chap moved seats so jr could sit with me.

BA seats are always assigned. Anyone flying with children should be assigned a seat beside them regardless.

Basically this is a no-story story, but everyone will have their own seat assigned before boarding. It wont be a free for all with first one getting first dibs of the best seats or anything like that. As people have mentioned, they already do prority boarding for higher flying classes anyway.

I suspect there may be an element of paying for priority boarding in the future though. Though paying to be fourth out of five isn't exactly a easy sell, not exactly going to show everyone you're a high-flyer (see what I did there?!) by spending a fiver getting on the plane five seconds before Joe Bloggs in economy and still having to walk past all the Club class people already quaffing their champers.


 
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Though, top tip for anyone flying BA with hand luggage - if they ask if anyone would like to put their bags in the hold as the plane is busy - if you volunteer you basically get on first regardless of how many Gold card members are standing at the front of the queue...


 
Posted : 20/11/2017 3:20 pm
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I regularly fly BA within Europe. This is a non-story, they are just formalising something that usually happens on full flights anyway - except they call you forward by row.

He reached the passport/ticket desk just ahead of me, only to be told that his Bronze card counted for approximately the square root of bugger all. I was called forward and greeted with overly theatrical schmooze while he was made to wait in shame.

He isn't as daft as he looks, he will now be the first Bronze Card holder to board. I sometimes consider doing this 🙂 Being in Bronze is sometimes purgatory where you queue up behind the Gold & Silver Card holders only for everyone else to be called forward before you get to the desk. It was quite funny when two Bronze holders were told to go back to the Executive Club queue when they snuck into the front of the queue for everyone else.

The best thing about Bronze is that you can select your seats a week in advance. It usually means I can sit in the emergency exits and stretch out 🙂

And as for being last on board, it depends on the flight. I wouldn't recommend it on the early morning flights (which are completely full of business travllers) unless you are checking your bags in. The overhead lockers fill up quickly.

The worst flight for me was a return from Copenhagen that was filled with American OAP's returning from a Scandinavian cruise. It took forever to get them all aboard and for the crew to prise their various shopping bags off them to be correctly stowed. I thought the crazy old dear next to me died at least twice...


 
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The best thing about Bronze is that you can select your seats a week in advance

Isn't that the only thing about bronze ? I never fly ba these days don't miss it. I'm a regular on airfrance/KLM now due to their flight times suiting better which seem to be maintaining their lowish standards compared to ba's rapidly dropping standards.


 
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BA has massivley gone down hill in the last 18 months IMO. Having to check in your own luggage and getting rid of having a free drink on the flight has just made them compete head to head with RyanAir, Easy Jet et al, which frankly they aren't very good at anyway! BA used to have a price premium as you got better service, now they seem to be in a race to the bottom on saving costs and don't give 2 hoots about customer service (rant over!)


 
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Isn't that the only thing about bronze ?

Pretty much.

The only other airline I frequently fly is SAS - they still give you free coffee (although that's meaningless to me as work will cover the cost of a coffee if I don't want to spend Avios).

I used to use Easy Jet for some trips, but not so much recently. Paying £15 to sit at the front and get speedy boarding was worth it, and still way cheaper than BA and not much different once on board. I suppose flying form T5 is usually a much better experience than the building site that Luton was (when I last flew from there 9 months ago).

On a recent BA flight one of the crew mentioned that they are expecting less leg room on some of the newer airbuses coming in for european flights. At 6'3" unless I am in an emergency exit seat I already struggle!


 
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On both legs of Frankfurt trip the emergency exit had no extra leg room and they still try to get you to pay extra to sit there. I am only 6’2” and could hardly fit into the seat. Luckily no one in middle so I could stretch sideways.

I used to mainly travel long haul so going back to BA short haul is a nasty shock. Good job I can do Paris on train this week instead


 
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Good job I can do Paris on train this week instead

Much more civilised. I’d take Eurostar to Brussels or maybe further. I often think a sleeper train would be great for business trips to early morning meetings.


 
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Though honestly I'm amazed they didn't actually have a priority boarding sorted already.

They have had priorty boarding as far back as I can remember. First, business, those needing more time (children and disabled), frequent fliers, everyone else

All a bit of a non-story I think


 
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Being in Bronze is sometimes purgatory

So it should be!

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CFH - had three years of not flying BA and had the joy of being congratulated by BA each time they downgraded my membership (after 20 years of gold)

Your picture is very apt. BA really know how to puss you off if you are not a frequent flyer. Need a few Asia trips to get the gold back fast.


 
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You're all looking at this the wrong way. I'd love to be held back to be the last one allowed on, then walk through the cabin looking smugly at all the people who paid more for exactly the same service that I'll get. Winner!


 
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I'd be pleased to be on last knowing that I got a better bargain than everyone else for precisely the same service. I wouldn't want it to be known if I'd overpaid.

Edit: Snap!


 
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Need a few Asia trips to get the gold back fast.

I think you'd need more than a few trips. My last long-haul to Seattle got me barely more tier points than a flight to Amsterdam. I 'earned' loads of Avios - and by loads I mean I could afford to buy a sandwhich on my next flight 😉


 
Posted : 20/11/2017 6:24 pm
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@CFH take the hats away and the picture is about right for gate A3 at 0645 on a Monday morning 😆


 
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long-haul to Seattle

Round trip of 280 TP and about 30k Avioses. Nice. 🙂


 
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Round trip of 280 TP and about 30k Avioses. Nice

I wish. I think it was more like 40 tier points and 2400 avios. I think the game is rigged so that some of us will never be treated as little more than peasants. I'd write to my local MP, but I expect he'd be sat next to you quaffing champagne 😆


 
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😆


 
Posted : 20/11/2017 7:59 pm
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I will be flying with Emirates soon ... 😀


 
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The best caption to this image on here was:

[i]Flashy, TJ and Me (Fred)[/i]


 
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