If you remember I said that one way to help us at Singletrack would be by filling in the occasional survey. I've been adding some mini surveys to some of our stories over the last week - thank you if you have seen and filled one in. I've gathered a whole bunch of our questions on this page here...
The fun part is that I've set each question to reveal the answers after you have submitted yours. Again, this sort of info really does help us and will help a great deal in the future when Google finally deactivates 3rd party cookies.
We'd like to help you learn to help yourself.
Done
We’d like to help you learn to help yourself.
Ooooh a course on "when to slowly place the keyboard on the ground and take two steps backward"?
The reveals are nicely done.
Fairly innocuous so far. For cost of latest bike, I answered for what I think the roughly equivilent bike would go for (most parts I did buy new at some point in the last 4 years), but no option to indicate my thoughts that buying a complete bike is usually terrible value.
Can't wait for the more divisive surveys later on. Pick a tread pattern and be a dick about it.
Are you a Singletrack Full Member?
It may have been worthwhile adding a 'Yes, but thinking of cancelling' button? Just to find out if subscribers are dissatisfied.
Done! I was surprised but not surprised by the 'how many bikes do you own' answers 🤣
Done, no surprises in the results for me
Done.
Nice graphics!
I'm guessing the info from those of us that say we're full members (and that was the vast majority of responses when I filled it in) needs stripping out for some uses as we won't be seeing the bulk of the advertising....
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I did it but unless everyone is picking the exact same as me then the graphs are just showing which one I voted for...I'm hoping I'm not that close to what is considered the normal in here.
Mr average! Most of my answers were quite different to the results shown.
Wow. The household income kinda explains why I feel so out of place here!
Mine will look odd. Tiny income and expensive bike
The income thing is an eye opener, isn't it.
Desperate bicycle
Hardly a suprise given attitudes and the vehement insistance that £ 50 000pa is not rich that is a constant theme
It's total household income they've asked, not the forum members salary. Could be x4 people earning £25k a piece.
3 working in our household puts us in that £50k - £75k band.
Does show a fiver on subs would be pretty much fine though! 🙂
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That's not really helpful
Done!
Be interesting to see an age demographic...
At 40 I feel I'm one of the young ones....
The income thing is an eye opener, isn’t it.
yeah, really
Wow. The household income kinda explains why I feel so out of place here!
Given the typical age of most STW'ers, a large percentage of households will have more than one earner, 2x people at 30k a year isn't ridiculous, in fact I'd say that's probably fairly normal.
One person in a skilled profession earning £40-50k then add in an older child still living at home, probably earning £20k+ and you're at £100k combined quite easily...
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That’s not really helpful
People do it though. One of the things you are going to have to do is to work out how to exclude that data. I do it on sites for for surveys that annoy me. Not so many people fill these things in so it's fun to skew the results. The stuff I filled in here is completely correct though
Be interesting to see an age demographic…
At 40 I feel I’m one of the young ones….
Yes, I'm surprised this isn't a question tbh. I think the 20-somethings are going to be the minority!
I reckon 'how far away are your nearest proper mountain biking trails' or 'how far do you travel to ride' type questions would be interesting too. From the riding pics threads it often feels like every bugger has Munros on their doorstep, or Enduro trails ending in their back gardens, whilst I have some bridleways and a few xc trails and have to drive for hours to get to proper hills.
People do it though. One of the things you are going to have to do is to work out how to exclude that data. I do it on sites for for surveys that annoy me. Not so many people fill these things in so it’s fun to skew the results. The stuff I filled in here is completely correct though
Oh totally get that. The weight of numbers will diminish those who seek to bugger the results so it's not really an issue I'm overly concerned about.. But to do it and THEN announce that's what you did? Not nice.
Yes, I’m surprised this isn’t a question tbh.
Hold my beer....
Done.
Income one will be a bit meaningless without other details.
As above a married/cohabiting couple both working full time on an "average" wage could easily get you well over 60k.
A single man or woman would be in the upper bounds of wages to match this.
Retired or semi-retired would give a low number but with, for example, house paid off, kids left the nest, gives a good chunk of disposable income for that wunderbike, and the time to ride it.
Income one will be a bit meaningless without other details.
It's fine. Household income is an age old marketing target metric.
Oh an age survey is now up. I've added it to the top of the page.
Done...
I'm now wanting to see what other questions I can come up with just to mark mark add them....
Number of rides per week?
Average mileage
Split between road gravel and mtb....
You needed a last question..."I have answered the above questions truthfully"
No surprises really.
I haven't ridden an mtb for 3 years so didn't answer that one
Number of rides per week?
Just pondering the answers for that one. standby
Women is obviously where you need to put all your recruitment efforts.
Done.
The colour of the bars could at least be clearer or brighter ...
May be worth something along the lines of 'where did you buy your last bike?' - online, second hand/forum/marketplace, LBS, chain etc.
We’re pretty much all 40 to 50! I thought the majority were older from all the whining that goes on 😂
@Mark: are you expecting us to go back and do the survey again every time you add a new question????
(Cos I'm not!)
It’s total household income they’ve asked, not the forum members salary.
Well duh fanks fer expleraining for da fickos!
To be fair I woulda been in one of the upper ones 10 years ago. Sure ain't now though
Can you put a " how many miles have you ridden this summer?" I want to win something. What do you mean its all about taking part? No prizes?
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and you’re at £100k combined quite easily…
Yeah errrm, about that easy bit...
1st page and the squabbling starts.
Not sure if even @mark could create a question that gives the probability of the the poster being an argumentative sod
New questions added and @markgraylish there;'s no expectation for you to keep going back. It's entirely voluntary. The questions will change from time to time and there will shortly be a permanent link to the survey page somewhere around the site. It's a long game acquisition of data exercise. As I said in the FAQ on the survey page. Answer none, 1 a few or all. It's all good.
All done.
Fascinating to see how my answers compared with everyone else! I suspect a story might be out with the answers so we can all see how we stack up at the end @mark ?
I'm just waiting to see how long before some smart arse asks for some Strava metric, calorie burn per ride or some such nonsense.
Now if it was how many coffee and cake per ride - I'm good with that 😉
James
Not sure if this will post because page 2 seems to be broken.
Is there something odd going on with page 2? I keep getting an xml error trying to load it. (only this thread mind)
6 bikes!!!!
Oh wait are you including kids etc bikes?
Don't know if intentional, but I did it an hour ago and appears I can complete it again if I want.
Wow. The household income kinda explains why I feel so out of place here!
I made exactly the same comment to my mate, also of thus parish
I assume that when you ask "your gender?" you mean "your sex" as the answers are 'male' or 'female' (or 'neither', which I don't understand). I answered accordingly.
Why is the reply count only showing 9 replies?
Women is obviously where you need to put all your recruitment efforts
That was surprisingly low, given the big increase in the number of women you see riding now compared to 10, let alone 20 years ago.
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I'm getting an error message and can't get to page 2 of this thread so I have no idea if this post will show...
There you go.
sigh, middle of the road again, I can't even be an edge lord in a chuffing survey
One person in a skilled profession earning £40-50k then add in an older child still living at home, probably earning £20k+ and you’re at £100k combined quite easily
Well yes, but there was about 6% in the upper bracket too whatever that was....
We’re pretty much all 40 to 50! I thought the majority were older from all the whining that goes on 😂
Bloody whippersnappers ,with luck you will get to this age too! It didn’t happen by accident 👨🦳
We’re pretty much all 40 to 50! I thought the majority were older from all the whining that goes on 😂
Bloody whippersnappers ,with luck you will get to this age too! It didn’t happen by accident 👨🦳
I've already answered a couple from stories on the front page. If loads of people answer the same questions repeatedly, that's going to alter the results isn't it?
So who is it that earns over £200k, has more than 6bikes and dropped £10k on their last one. 🤣
