[Closed] Wearing A Tie At Work.

I know that it's discriminatory

Get over yourself and be grateful you have a job.

I choose to wear them, in fact I like them a lot and have a decent selection.

The people on here who complain about wearing suits and ties sound like little schoolboys getting ready for their first day of school.

Jessops went to court over the same issue some years ago when a male member of staff refused to wear a tie and was sent home, they lost and dropped ties from the uniform for men.

It is unfair, but is it a big deal?

Just wear a black tie everyday for every occasion. Simple.

Better still wear similar shirts etc everyday but make sure you buy few of them to last you a week(s).

Don't worry about what people say just wear the same "uniform".

I would wear Pulp Fiction style "uniform". 😆

I know that it's discriminatory as he doesn't insist that woman have to wear skirts as evidenced by them all wearing trousers.

No it's not.

It's discriminatory because he doesn't insist the women wear ties.

What have skirts and trousers got to do with anything ?

My partner says I should shut up moaning and get on with it

Your partner is correct.

It's pretty simple. If you don't want the job as it's described. Then don't accept the job.

These days I normally choose to as it's part of my "uniform" that gets me in work mode; when home I shed it and become myself again 🙂

Was once told years ago I had to wear a tie on a day I was wearing a short-sleeved shirt (not a good combination in my eyes); it doesn't matter what shirt you're wearing you have to wear a tie - I was told. Turned up the next day in Hawaiian shirt with tie. It didn't go down well.

Don't mind wearing them special occasions but I'd to have to wear a suit and tie for work.

Sadly the tie part may be soon inevitable.

doesnt sound like its the job for you really

i choose to wear a suit/tie

whoa whoa whoa

the only time a short sleeve shirt goes with a tie is fancy dress.

Tell him they are classed as fomites and could be detrimental to the health of his staff.

Effing hate ties.

Or if you are a used car salesman or a bus driver

Go to work in a dress?

The only place I ever wore a tie to while consulting was Lloyds of London, simply because the bouncers won't let you onto the treading floors without one.

Ties are great, they mean you don't have to remember to trim the top of your chest hair (neck mirkin?).

Are comedy one's banned..??

I used to wear one, tbh I was always happy with the uniformy dress code, meant not having to apply any thought at all to it myself. Now I only wear one when there's something important happening, same for most of my office, when the suits and ties come out shit is about to get real.

I think discrimination in dress codes is just a universal thing- the woman I work most closely with turns up in jeans most days, if I wore jeans to work I'd get pelters. This is the terrible hardship of being a man in a woman's world.

(it's actually a 3-tier dress code, hot women are allowed to dress more casually than fat or ugly ones..Don't act offended, you know it's true.)

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Casual dress in our office unless we have customers on site. Our md has started to wear a shirt and tie recently...with denim jeans 🙂

Not sure anyone wears a tie where I work, possible a sales guy if he has a customer in, but not guaranteed.

Jessops went to court over the same issue some years ago when a male member of staff refused to wear a tie and was sent home, they lost and dropped ties from the uniform for men.

and jessops went bust, perhaps they should have invested more time in selling than trying to makle the staff look like school boys.

Never worn a tie to work and never will.

Oh dear. BitterTrackWorld arrived in the first reply!

I've always prefered a cravat or neckerchief to be honest

and jessops went bust, perhaps they should have invested more time in selling than trying to makle the staff look like school boys.

And promptly reopened by a guy who wears a tie.

waiters, hot fiat, did you not learn anything? Or were you there to teach?! 😀

Actually if you think carefully they must have a reason to insist on their male staff wearing tie.

Have you found out that reason(s) yet? Perhaps it's just old fashion respect for customer when you wear tie? No?

I really don't see a big deal with having to wear tie at work unless you work with turbine engine? Where your tie got suck in and your head get crush or chop off by the turbine blades with blood pumping like hose pipe all over.

Frankly speaking if wearing tie is detrimental to your well being then you should seriously reconsider whether that is the place you want to work. Bear in mind most organisation you join will only have their prevailing norm so it's not something new.

You have to decide if that is the place for you.

🙂

Our md has started to wear a shirt and tie recently...with denim jeans

Its certainly a...unique look but fortunately we don't have too many warm days

I more or less choose too, certainly not compulsory, although most wear them on my floor of the office at least.

Like them, don't get the fuss. With a suitably fitting shirt I can't tell the difference frankly.

rocketman - Member

Our md - who is 20 stone + and clearly wears clothes bought for him by his mrs - wears a sheer white short sleeved shirt over a white vest combined with white trousers when the weather's warm

The man from del Monte, he say "[b]GIVE ME ALL YOUR ****ING CAKE![/b]".

Are comedy one's banned..??

I should bloody hope not!

My 2 favs from BITD (before I grew up 🙂 )

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Somewhere I have a tie with a rainforest scene on it, so it's predominately dark green from the trees with the odd bird or animal amongst it.
Oh, and the bright yellow JCB that's ploughing across the bottom of it. 🙁 😯

Ties are great.

One of the reasons I left my last job!

Love riding to work in my skinny jeans now! Only problem is that they get a bit tight round the groinal area when your riding if you know what I mean! 🙂

Ladders - Member

Love riding to work in my skinny jeans now! Only problem is that they get a bit tight round the groinal area when your riding if you know what I mean!

Then you should wear leggings instead ... much much more comfortable.

Could be worse OP, lederhosen for instance if the job were in an Umpah band or a rectum splitting nappy for a sumo. Agreed they are the one item of clothing that serves absolutely no purpose but it's not as bad as wearing a bearskin, for instance. Also - how much do you need the money?

My work place was like this. I wore a tie for a month or so then started no tie Friday then became more sparatic when I wore a tie, now I never wear a tie.

Get comfy, get to know people then stop wearing the tie, it would be very odd if they actually made a big issue about it. Every work place has stupid rules and most people don't keep to all of them. This can be the one that you don't keep to.

Then you should wear leggings instead ... much much more comfortable.

Ah! Jeggings! Good idea!

Agreed they are the one item of clothing that serves absolutely no purpose

A tie has a purpose.

It's just not a practical one.

In this particular example, the purpose of the tie is so the OP can go to work dressed as he is required to.

Actually if you think carefully they must have a reason to insist on their male staff wearing tie.

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gears_suck - Member

There's no reason I can think of why you should ever HAVE to wear a tie for any situation other than to satisfy someone else's antiquated upyourarseness.

You're fired! 😆

Dress codes are for the military. For everyone else, it's just some weird tradition or trumped up pier pressure. Having said that. I'd wear one at a funeral out of respect, so I guess I'm just talking out of my backside.

Fall in line or you're fired. Your choice. 😆

Peer pressure? No. It is a direct command for you to follow. You are not employed to think but to behave zombie maggot like.

I said - jump! (what's your reply?)

😈

Is there any profession where it is legally compulsory to wear a tie? Even the police don't wear them all the time they're on duty.

Like them, don't get the fuss.

This is the case for many people with something they like or are ambiguous towards, they don't get why someone might be annoyed by something, I expect there is something odd that you don't like that many other people would say "I don't see the problem", and people should except that, they may take the piss but they should except it. If it does not effect your ability to do your job you can avoid it. Wearing a tie can be like this, it is for me, its odd an irrational to insist on wearing one. Wearing a tie is nothing to do with being smart unless you are wearing a suit, and the only places I've worked that insisted on wearing a tie, did not insist on wear a suit. Infact most people I see wear a tie look scruffier with on because its loose with the top button undone like a Michael Boule look a like.

For years and years I always wore a tie for work, and often a 3-piece suit (especially if abroad 🙂 ).

About 7 years ago I decided to stop wearing a tie; and have only since for weddings, funerals and interviews.

If you aren't use to wearing a tie make sure you buy shirts with a collarsize at least 1/2" larger than normal.

The Brick = the voice of reason.

If your going to wear a tie then you should go all the way. Proper suit, proper shoes and suit jacket. Some of the scruffiness people I've seen at work have just worn trousers, shirt and tie.

Likewise, you can look extremely smart wearing a nicely cut pair of jeans and a decent shirt and shoes, and I've seen some people pull this off very well.

When a "manager" I wore one. Even the day I forgot my trousers after washing them (after a 33km bike in it was too late to go back). So put on a dress shirt, the tie, a lab coat and got to the management meeting early. It wasn't long before someone noticed the cycling shorts and hairy legs under the table... .

OP
If you are aware of the dress code and don't agree by it don't take the job.

Im stuck wearing one at school. Spends most of its time tucked in so it doesnt wrap around a lathe or something.. great look.

But if im going to wear one its gotta be silk. Thats what charity shops and TK Maxx are for isnt it?

If you are aware of the dress code and don't agree [s]by [/s] with it don't take the job.

That's the end of this thread.

If I were require to wear tie to work I would wear one black colour tie forever. i.e. never to change or to wash until it rots. 😆

CaptainFlashheart - Member

That's the end of this thread.

Where is the human right in this reply? 😈

Edukator - Troll

When a "manager" I wore one. Even the day I forgot my trousers after washing them (after a 33km bike in it was too late to go back). So put on a dress shirt, the tie, a lab coat and got to the management meeting early. It wasn't long before someone noticed the cycling shorts and hairy legs under the table...

When I was in the bank it was strictly suit and tie. Rules were less clear on footwear, which is just as well because of the number of times I forgot my work shoes and went through the day in a pair of knee-high Sidi motorbike boots. It's an excellent look

(also tbh I'm one of those people who'll always look like a bairn in a suit, I've got a couple of nice ones now thanks to a simple shopping strategy, find a homosexual italian man and buy what he told me to. But they still makes me look about 12.)

In the current job, I have a very childish game I play... There's a couple of official university ties, an "anyone can wear it" one with the uni crest, and a graduates only one. Any time I wear my graduates one, it's only a matter of time til someone decides to tell me off for wearing the "wrong" tie, then I get to shoot them down. I am easily amused.

I wear one for work and I like them a lot. For me it about getting in the mood for work, I put on a well fitted suit, a good shirt and a tie and I'm in work mode. The fact that my wife thinks I like hot in said ensemble does no harm at all either. Saying that, I would agree that a tie only works with a suit, if you don't wear suit then you shouldn't need a tie.

Re. The OP, you took the job knowing the dress code, if you don't like it, turn the job down. I've hired people who have winced when I told them I expect them in a suit and tie, the choice is simple, if you want the job you need to take the dress code with it.

At the trade fairs we go to there is a company that sells skulls,big swords and all that warlock stuff.
The people on the stand are the sort of death metallers you would expect. Long hair,piercings ,tattoos etc.
Their boss makes them wear a suit at the fairs. They look bloody ridiculous.
None of their customers wear suits. I really can't see the point.

I haven't taken the job. I might not take the job. I might take the job. I already have a job. I don't like wearing a tie. I had no idea that a tie was compulsory until we were half way through the informal chat where I most certainly wasn't wearing a tie. I was just airing my feelings toward ties being compulsory for this employer. It's just a discussion (board).

I hate ties. Luckily my work attire is very far from formal.

Ties always seem to be quite an emotive subject - almost as bad as religion. Although personally I dislike ties more than I dislike religion....

cloud - Member

I haven't taken the job. I might not take the job. I might take the job. I already have a job. I don't like wearing a tie. I was just airing my feelings toward ties being compulsory for this employer. It's just a discussion (board).

I see you have got a job already hence able to be choosy, in that case your reaction to wearing tie is, okay, normal reaction. 😆

At one point I thought you were going to be a choosy beggar 😆

OP, based on your feelings find a job with a slacker dress code. Otherwise You will resent each morning tying that knot around your neck.

Suits and ties cause global warming - fact.

The insistence that men wear suits and ties in places like the US, even in summer, means most offices need air conditioning.

If the dress code means you're already wearing stuff you wouldn't normally wear around the house, then what in particular elevates a tie above this level? Perhaps your shirt collars are too tight? Or is it just a symbolic thing?

I must admit, I stopped noticing I even had it on after a week or so in my first job.

As long as you wear a nice, subtle one, and definitely not with a short sleeved shirt, you'll look OK, if that's what you're worried about.

Their marketing strategy clearly works, Zippy, you noticed them and haven't forgotten.

I understand your attitude, OP, but to me it's just a (symbolic) part of the whole submission thing that goes with a job. Not just job either, one local club won't accept riders without a helmet and if I didn't dress up to please Madame for rock and roll dancing I doubt I'd get spoilt after.

It's quite simple. Are you customer facing?

If yes, wear a tie, you're representing your company.

If no, and yet you're expected to anyway, treat with suspicion. What other idiotic ideas might you be expected to put up with because "they've always done it that way"?

There's an adage that you should "dress for the job you want rather than the one you have." Extrapolating this, people in suits may well trying to be something they're not. I'd rather get the job I want by being good at things.

Only for funerals and fetishes, if you can't do a job without a tie, you probably can't do it with one.

"Smart Casual" at work. Smart externally. I never wear a tie, even when representing the company on official business and conferences. I do however like a nice bright floral shirt with a Paul Smith suit. I view this as "equality". It's never been questioned, even at meetings where I'm the only non-tie wearer.

If yes, wear a tie, you're representing your company.

All depends on the industry / country. I've done / do loads of 'C' level meetings and never wear a tie....

definitely not with a short sleeved shirt

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if you can't do a job without a tie, you probably can't do it with one.

Well in this case that's clearly rubbish.

Without a tie he won't be able to do the job.

With a tie he will be able to.

It is unfair that when it comes to 'office' dress codes they only really apply to men and not women. I'm expected to wear shoes, trousers, shirt and tie every day whereas most of the women are swanning about in sandals and a floaty dress of some kind.

I'm the kind of scruffy git that really hates wearing a shirt and tie and feel that is an affront to my very soul but recently got a job where it was expected and so you just have to suck it up really. Now I'm used to it, it's not actually that bad and as others have said it's really not worth losing sleep over.

As somebody else has already said it's an anachronism and quite obvious to anyone with their own mind that you can't force people to look 'good' with a bunch of rules.

Plenty of people who abide by the office dress code look like a shambles in their school trousers, comedy tie and five year old shoes with the soles flapping off, a bunch of keys hanging off their belt etc. I like to think that most blokes with a modicum of common sense could dress themselves much better and in an appropriate manner if just left to make their own minds.... but maybe I'm putting too much faith in middle aged men (like myself).

I hate wearing a tie but it's a habit for work and I feel I can do my job better wearing them . No idea why

wysiwyg - Member

Im stuck wearing one at school. Spends most of its time tucked in so it doesnt wrap around a lathe or something

Please don't tell me you wear a tie whilst working on a lathe... 😯

Make sure your collar's not too tight. Go up a collar size - makes a huge different to comfort.

My old boss said ties make you go deaf. He was making a point about creativity and it has stuck with me. His wife did make him wear a tie when prince Charles came to visit the factory, though

I do find it a bit amusing reading about the people that like flash suits and ties. They sound like little schoolboys getting ready for their first day of school. 🙂 Each to their own.

All depends on the industry / country. I've done / do loads of 'C' level meetings and never wear a tie....

Well, yes. I wouldn't expect a plasterer or a lifeguard to wear one. I'd seemingly inaccurately presumed that we'd already established we were discussing a situation in which a tie may be suitable.

It is unfair that when it comes to 'office' dress codes they only really apply to men and not women. I'm expected to wear shoes, trousers, shirt and tie every day whereas most of the women are swanning about in sandals and a floaty dress of some kind.

Try it yourself. You'll have good grounds for a discrimination case if they tell you you can't. (-:

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Actually fair play. Those cats look smart. I'd buy insurance or take legal advice from them.

I wear one when meeting clients. Even when the client is dressed scruffily. Otherwise no.

I love ties, could always buy more funds permitting along with smart shirts and suits. Only times I don't wear for work is when doing a site clearance type of job or if I am suffering from a mild fever/ sore throat.

I work in professional services so it has been the norm for 15 years. Modern suits and shirts are comfy too.

It's a choice like saying you choose Gore over dhb or baggy over lycra. I buy good (high street) suits but crap jeans.

I'd buy insurance or take legal advice from them.

The only lawyers (out of ten if us) in the meeting today wearing ties would be the last I'd take advice from. In fact lawyers are so easy to spot: they practically sleep in a suit and tie. And aren't capable of independent thought.

I'll be in jeans tomorrow. And my legal advice will be as good as ever.

I'll wear a tie for meetings with senior customer representatives, but otherwise pretty much never these days.

The dress code in our office is pretty lax on a day-to-day basis - nobody on my floor regularly wears a tie.

In fact, you can normally tell if someone has a visitor, as they produce a tie from their desk drawer 5 mins before their visitor arrives!