[Closed] We think its a good idea but not for us,say footballers

how homophobic your comments are, i take it your limp wristed comment is a gay reference

I havent noticed many gay men walking around with limp wrists like dick emery, I guess you are still living in the 70's

no.the ocasional gay man or woman ive met are definately [b]not[/b] limp wristed or weak, but usually well spoken, decisive, and say what they feel.

how homophobic your comments are, i take it your limp wristed comment is a gay reference

Quite judgemental don't you think? The guy is complaining about a lack of support for gay footballers and you declare him a homophobe.

Limp-wrists aren't a refrence to homosexuality any more than a lack of a back-bone is. It just refers to a lack of moral or physical strength. Unless of course you think that makes someone a homosexual?

I'm sure they have their reasons, in the same way Jason Roberts, et al, did when not wearing the [url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20082553 ]Kick Out Racism T-shirts.[/url]

Limp-wrists isn't a refrence to homosexuality any more than a lack of a back-bone is.

you need to do some research in to this as it is a very obvious camp gay characteristic the media has played on for decades and its just sad as it is a pathetic stereotype

My reference to limp wristed was meant to point out the footballers or management could put their hand up and say yes look at me, i support the cause, as opposed to being limp wristed and going with the masses, for fear of being seen as not one of the gang.

http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/limp-wristed

dont be a dick 06, you know what i mean, it comes from the larry grayson, camp gay 70's stereotypes that are out of date and stupid, but linking to a web site is clearly the singletrack way of being stupid to back your argument instead of looking in to what the issue is.

Yeah it can be used to steretype homosexuals, but project quite clearly meant that he thought they lacked moral backbone.
[s]Ironic [/s] Stupid to call someone a homophobe for making a pro-gay equality thread IMO.

its now 2013, not the seventies, when sex with under 21 year olds was illegal, and section 21 was being dreamed about, where civil partnerships where a long way off dream for a lot of people,and where it was a dismissable offence in the armed forces.

no.the ocasional gay man or woman ive met are definately not limp wristed or weak, but usually well spoken, decisive, and say what they feel.

and where it was a dismissable offence in the armed forces

****ing hell. Any excuse for a an argument in this place. Not every post or sentence had a hidden connotation.

It,s almost like some of those footballers are trying to hide something.....

Much as I commend Stonewall and wholeheartedly support their campaigns, it might have been a better idea to consult clubs first before landing them with a Paddy Power branded box of shoelaces, and as much as saying "Here, wear these on Saturday and you don't, you're homophobic."

I'm somewhat suspicious of Paddy Power's motives. Anyone would think they were trying to rescue a bit of good PR after having their ladies day ad pulled for being transphobic earlier in the year. FFS, do gambling companies have to stick their arses into everything these days?!? 😐

But thats what makes this forum so intresting, the jesting and joshing, along with covering certain subjects in a multitude of different ways, without actually fighting.

I'm somewhat suspicious of Paddy Power's motives. Anyone would think they were trying to rescue a bit of good PR after having their ladies day ad pulled for being transphobic earlier in the year. FFS, do gambling companies have to stick their arses into everything these days?!?

all good advertising, and a talking point, i wasnt aware of paddy power and hate football.

I think the OP was outlining the stereotype in order to bring notice to the cause. You seem to have taken this badly sancho. I am sure no offence was meant.

all good advertising, and a talking point, i wasnt aware of paddy power and hate football.

Well, it was in the story to which you linked project. Did you not read it? So, what's the objective? Support for the gays, or using the homophobia you're perceiving as an excuse to have a go at football?

teethgrinder +1.

good grief.

Yep seems the issue isn't with Stonewall, laces or the campaign in general but Paddy Power's involvement.

I don't think Paddy Power should be using this as a advertising tool, IMO Stonewall scored an own goal on this one.

BOOOOOOOM.

How limp wristed and weak willed not to support possibly fellow players,supporters,and sponsors,by the simple use of coloured laces,and get the message accross people are still being discriminated in sport because of their sexuality.

I trust you'll be sporting rainbow laces on all your work shoes from now to help get the message across too.

I cant think how you could have made your point worse than your OP.
Well done as you did it by not actually reading the link you posted to.

AWESOME

**** hell. Any excuse for a an argument in this place. Not every post or sentence had a hidden connotation.

You spill my pint!?!?!? 😡

Pretty sure you dropped it yourself , you are so limp wristed

Pretty sure you dropped it yourself , you are so limp wristed

You calling my pint queer?!?! 😡

on the subject of limp wristedness and other 70's gay stereotyping

when a box, covered in branding from betting agency Paddy Power, was delivered to their training grounds with the tagline 'Right Behind Gay Footballers'.

Hmm, I thought the whole 'limp wrist' thing was earlier than that.

Google time.

it has two meaning - lacks back bone and also effeminate so used as slang/derogatory term/ slur against gay people who were often perceived , and sometimes still are, as soft and effeminate and not very manly

I assume we can accept this without google

Sauce?

Google time.

First hit off Google image search for 'limp wrist':

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Hmm, I didn't go with image search.

My first hit came back with a reference at least going back to the early 20th century.

Anyway, you chaps get back to your errr... debating.

[url= http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limp_Wrist ]this? [/url]

Looks a fun night out...

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[i]Anyway, you chaps get back to your errr... debating.[/i]

Mass debating if you ask me.

but it's what makes STW sooo much fun. It's miles better than the telly, in fact I'm thinking of doing away with my TV licence.

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Go on!

Looks like an ordinary Saturday night at Northwold Social Club

in fact I'm thinking of doing away with my TV licence.

You should start a thread on that 😐

I think paddy power is probably he issue here

isnt their name racist anyway????? 😉

I suspect that football being what it is that the number one concern of teams is keeping the £££ flowing from their own gambling sponsors

Those rainbow laces look quite natty, where can I get some?

Nice to see another glorious chapter in footballers sporting items of clothing boldly espousing noble causes!

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what a bunch of ****ers

no backbone whatsoever

pathetic

the footballers aren't any better either

Yep seems the issue isn't with Stonewall, laces or the campaign in general but Paddy Power's involvement.

TBF, anything to do with commercial endorsements, sponsorship and uniforms is such big business and touchy that you'd have to approach it with a bit of insight if you wanted it to work.

Surely this sort of thing should be driven and led by FA in partnership with Stonewall directly?
Paddy Power are a commercial entity, their sponsorship of the cause (which is a good thing) which is likely to cause conflicts with existing sponsors of clubs & players?

I sprained my wrist turning the compost should I be worried?

FFS, do gambling companies have to stick their arses into everything these days?!?

I see what you did there DD....

I sprained my wrist turning the compost should I be worried?

I would be more worried about the [url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-24151700 ]Legionnaires disease you now have.[/url]

How limp wristed and weak willed not to support possibly fellow players,supporters,and sponsors,by the simple use of coloured laces,and get the message accross people are still being discriminated in sport because of their sexuality.

I trust you'll be sporting rainbow laces on all your work shoes from now to help get the message across too.

Absolutely no problem with that, just need somewhere to buy them. anyone else intresdted if i find a supply.

No, thoyught so, dress code etc as an excuse, but not for cycling shoes, or trainers.

Absolutely no problem with that, just need somewhere to buy them. anyone else intresdted if i find a supply.

I hear Paddy Power have got loads.

No, thoyught so, dress code etc as an excuse, but not for cycling shoes, or trainers.

No excuse needed by me, I just wouldn't wear them.
Along with pink ribbons, white ribbons, black ribbons, yellow wristbands, poppies etc. It's just tokenism imo.
FYI there's plenty of rainbow laces on ebay - just checked.

Project; do your cycling shoes take laces? (Points and laughs at the guy in the Nike poo-bahs)