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369 notes FFS and it just falls out of the sky mostly. 400 odd notes to tart it up a bit and stick in some pipes?


 
Posted : 19/02/2014 7:28 pm
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A pound a day to provide fresh clean water and remove your effluent ain't that bad.


 
Posted : 19/02/2014 7:55 pm
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Mine's about £120 / yr on a water meter.

Single occupancy however.


 
Posted : 19/02/2014 8:00 pm
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i live in a block of apartments and we all get charged for water run off the roof,and the nearest roof is 4 floors up.


 
Posted : 19/02/2014 8:00 pm
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It is chuffing expensive I agree.
Over £40 a month for us, bloody meters.....and we try to watch what we use!


 
Posted : 19/02/2014 8:00 pm
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£36/month without a meter.

edit although I have left the tap on over winter with a hosepipe connected, storing water in the Summerset Levels ready for the summer hosepipe ban.


 
Posted : 19/02/2014 8:13 pm
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Mines free as I've got my own well, however I spend around £200 on filters/chemicals a year on it.

And if the power goes then I've no water...


 
Posted : 19/02/2014 8:19 pm
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£25.50 a month , 2 of us in a family size house .


 
Posted : 19/02/2014 8:24 pm
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ever bought bottles water? its the same stuff (literally the same borehole a lot of the time) but over 1000 times as expensive


 
Posted : 19/02/2014 8:24 pm
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£1 a day for clean water on demand?

Awful isn't it?

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Posted : 19/02/2014 8:26 pm
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mine is always about £50 every 6 months on a meter, and 90% of that is standing charges, I don't have a washing machine though


 
Posted : 20/02/2014 1:03 am
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http://www.wateraid.org/uk/what-we-do/the-crisis
How much water did you use? Perhaps you could reduce usage, store rain water and many other things if you don't want to spend as much on your bill.


 
Posted : 20/02/2014 1:12 am
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[i]Over £40 a month for us, bloody meters.....and we try to watch what we use! [/i]

When on a meter ours never was more than £10pcm and we made no attempt to save water - family of 3.

Have you a leak?


 
Posted : 20/02/2014 8:05 am
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Have you a leak?

Try a bill of £118,000 for a year in an office that housed 12 folk, no showers etc, just hand washing and a kettle!

Turned out there was a leak at the meter going straight into a nearby storm drain - luckily it was there or the circa 20M litres of water could have undermined the whole building!

That's wasn't what annoyed me, what annoyed me was that after following the official dispute process, winning and having a formulae applied to the bill, we still owed them over £5k.

Anyways, £1 a day (ish) seems reasonable? Mine is £400/year onto the council tax.


 
Posted : 20/02/2014 8:15 am
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mine is always about £50 every 6 months on a meter, and 90% of that is standing charges, I don't have a washing machine though
POSTED 7 HOURS AGO # REPORT-POST

Apt user name 😆


 
Posted : 20/02/2014 8:23 am
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In exeter its 900 a year.


 
Posted : 20/02/2014 8:27 am
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OP you are lucky, Mine was £650 a year for a boggo 3bed semi in Manchester.

I complained but the council had set the rates twenty years ago.

So I complained some more. Its now £420 a year.


 
Posted : 20/02/2014 8:29 am
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ever bought bottles water? its the same stuff (literally the same borehole a lot of the time) but over 1000 times as expensive

The cost Bottled water in this country is ridiculous, probably because it's seen as a bit of a luxury item, - in France it's about 1 euro for 5 litres, but people don't tend to drink the tap water as much (not that there is anything wrong with it).


 
Posted : 20/02/2014 8:35 am
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In exeter its 900 a year.

How? In general or your house? What size etc?!!

Thats crazy.


 
Posted : 20/02/2014 8:46 am
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... and stick in some pipes

Do you know how much those pipes (and reservoirs and boreholes and wastewater treatment plants and other infrastructure) cost? Look at how much the Thames Tideway is costing to build.

And anyway, at least half of the payment is usually for sewerage.

As has been said, get on a meter and use less! 😉


 
Posted : 20/02/2014 8:49 am
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Go to Buxton. Fill up from the lions mouth. It is exactly the same water as ?estle bottle. If that ever stops running they are in deep troubles...


 
Posted : 20/02/2014 8:52 am
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In exeter its 900 a year.

How? In general or your house?

Council tax Band B in East Anglia, £65 per month, so £780 per annum. 3-bed semi. So if it's a Band E or F property seems perfectly reasonable.

Water is quite scarce here and expensive to treat, and effluent is expensive to drain and treat, it has to be pumped because we are on the fens. And we pay towards highways drainage in this area too.


 
Posted : 20/02/2014 8:55 am
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I am sure you could ask the water board to disconnect you if you don't need it and don't want to pay for it?

Of all the bills I pay, I don't think water is bad considering the quality of water we get and how much we need it.


 
Posted : 20/02/2014 9:01 am
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Council tax Band B in East Anglia

Oooh get you. Almost in the top band!


 
Posted : 20/02/2014 9:22 am
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That would be nice!! Council tax starts from A, i.e. next to bottom band... 🙁


 
Posted : 20/02/2014 11:11 am
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oops, My bad!


 
Posted : 20/02/2014 11:51 am
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Have you a leak?

Don't think so but more investigation needed maybe.


 
Posted : 20/02/2014 9:03 pm
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£369 sounds like a good deal. Collect water (that falls from the sky), treat it, deliver it to your house with a reasonably consistent pressure, wait for you to use it, take it all away again with all your bodily waste, treat it, handle all the incredibly dangerous products you've put it in, turn all that into something that can be handled, return any clean water back into the water course. Not forgetting any water that lands on your property (from the sky) all gets taken away as well. Not forgetting anything you shove down the drain gets taken away as well. Like oil and fat and food.

Quid a day? It's an absolute bargain.


 
Posted : 20/02/2014 9:13 pm
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How? In general or your house? What size etc?!!

Thats crazy.

They base it on square metres don't they? 3 bed semi, but its the same for all my student houses, all based on 3 bed terraces.


 
Posted : 01/03/2014 3:49 pm
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PS konagirl we pay 1540 a year council tax.. we are band C.
http://www.exeter.gov.uk/index.aspx?articleid=8931


 
Posted : 01/03/2014 4:08 pm
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Posted : 01/03/2014 4:39 pm
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What grates on me is the cost of getting a meter installed in Scotland (this would make sense for us, two adults in a high council tax band house), I worked out it'd cost ~£250 for the initial survey to see how they could connect (non-refundable), and then a minimum £1800 to install. This gives a ~6 year payback period, all because I want to install something that in theory should reduce water usage!


 
Posted : 01/03/2014 4:54 pm
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Blimey, I think its free here, they are desperate to get us to install them.


 
Posted : 01/03/2014 4:57 pm
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Yeah, most places in England it's free or a nominal charge. Unfortunately I think Scottish Water have a monopoly up here so don't think there's much incentive for them to reduce bills!


 
Posted : 01/03/2014 4:59 pm
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all the water companies are monopolies.


 
Posted : 01/03/2014 5:02 pm
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About £150/year here for a family of three. Metered supply and rainwater into a soakaway (so no charges there). I can't believe some of the prices on this thread! What are you all doing?


 
Posted : 01/03/2014 6:00 pm
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Living in the west country.


 
Posted : 01/03/2014 6:20 pm
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Water is free here in NI but not for much longer


 
Posted : 01/03/2014 6:22 pm
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Living in the west country.
yeah and paying for toursim through our water bills. We should have a toll gate on the m5 after Taunton.


 
Posted : 01/03/2014 6:52 pm
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And we pay towards highways drainage in this area too.

If you are connected to sewer you pay highway drainage even if it is not a separate charge

It's still the freeloaders on septic tanks you should be miffed about

Also the rest of England.and Wales are subsidising Toys19. Bill by £50 p.a. The average Sww bill is £499 you either have a big house, a very large family or a leak


 
Posted : 01/03/2014 7:53 pm
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£143 a year, and i have no intention of getting a meter, even if it is free. Why risk it?


 
Posted : 01/03/2014 8:29 pm
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£143 a year, and i have no intention of getting a meter, even if it is free. Why risk it?

Well I'm guessing at some point soon you wont have a choice. Unlimited consumption isn't really going to be a pricing model of the future.

It was a conversation over dinner last night as metering has not been here in Tassie that long. Really changing a few behaviours.


 
Posted : 01/03/2014 9:36 pm
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I'd love a meter, £24.00 a month/ single occupier, but the useless turd that came to do the survey couldn't figure out which pipe fed my house. Complained to Yorkshire Water about it, they reduced my bill to £22-50 a month, pffft! I was fuming.

But after reading the "£1 a day for clean running water" posts, I feel a bit of a div, thanks for putting it into perspective.


 
Posted : 01/03/2014 9:44 pm
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Just got a bill from Thames Water £560 for the year on months notice to pay, due 3rd March. Good luck getting that. 1 bed flat.


 
Posted : 01/03/2014 10:23 pm
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[i]all the water companies are monopolies. [/i]

That's not entirely true.

Logistically, obviously you get your water from the local wholesale company. That makes sense to keep costs low. However, much like the electric and gas companies, the service can be delivered from anyone.

Right now, domestic customers get this service from the same local, wholesale company that does all the water related activity but if you use more than 5 megalitres a year, you can get the service from anyone who will offer it. You could have a business in Scotland who pays bills to a company in London.

It won't be long before this limit drops to all customers. You could buy Tesco water no matter who the local wholesale company is. But your bill won't change. Tesco water will still be regulated in the same way that South West Water is. There's a cost to delivering water and there's a cost to taking it away again. Make no mistake, the infrastructure that makes this happen is vast beyond most people's comprehension and it all needs maintaining, rebuilding, improving and managing. Someone is going to have to pay for that.


 
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Also the rest of England.and Wales are subsidising Toys19. Bill by £50 p.a. The average Sww bill is £499 you either have a big house, a very large family or a leak

Check your facts by [url= http://www.theguardian.com/money/2011/nov/29/south-west-water-customers-rebate ]reading this[/url]


 
Posted : 02/03/2014 4:24 pm
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Just had our bill. £190 for the year, not on a meter. The benefits of a low rateable value property!


 
Posted : 02/03/2014 4:33 pm
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The average Sww bill is £499 you either have a big house, a very large family or a leak

£650 a year for a two bed, band B property. You are welcome to pay the difference


 
Posted : 02/03/2014 5:38 pm
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Don't worry Jambo, Big n Daft is SWW's publicity officer..
My house, as I stated clearly, is band C. I think he thinks I am lying.


 
Posted : 02/03/2014 5:40 pm
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Check your facts by reading this

facts checked, sorry I missed that as a central government grant the tax payers of the SW are also contributing to the rebate

My house, as I stated clearly, is band C. I think he thinks I am lying.

err my error
The average SWW bill is £499 you either have a big house or a small house with a high rateable value, [s]a very large family or a leak[/s] [i]you can run your garden fountain from the tap[/i]

If you think £499 is wrong write to them

they say:

Around 700,000 household customers of South West Water will soon see a new item titled 'Government Contribution' on their bills confirming a £50 annual reduction will be applied from this April.

This flat rate deduction, a pledge within the Coalition's original working agreement, will be paid every year to 2020 and means the average annual household bill for water and sewerage in South West Water's service area will fall by 7.3% to £499

Check your facts by reading this

Yes it's a standard non-industry view, completely misses the historic lack of investment by the representatives of the people of the SW when it was thought OK to just flush everything out to sea via short outfalls

Bathing Water directive is hitting some sewage works inland as well as direct coastal discharges


 
Posted : 02/03/2014 7:02 pm
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£440 ish unmeterd which splits 1/3 for water and 2/3 for waste. Cambridge Water Company Band D (I think).


 
Posted : 02/03/2014 7:07 pm
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My water/sewerage charges are lumped into my council tax bill (scotland). The lowest you'd pay is about £270 and the highest is about £800.


 
Posted : 02/03/2014 7:09 pm
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700 a year, 50/50 on potable/waste. West Lancs.


 
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