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Person amasses a Perfect collection of whisky ... has a lengthy illness leading to his sad death; and he doesnt open up the best of the collection to enjoy/see if its as good as the money he paid.

I can understand if it was bought as an investment type thing, but the guy was extremely rich ... described as a businessman and philanthropist (polite description for too much money to know what to do with).

So knowing the end is close would you open the best and enjoy it?

Perfect Scotch whisky collection


 
Posted : 09/12/2019 7:18 am
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Probably a similar motivation to people who collect stamps but never stick them on an envelope.
Researching, tracking down and Collecting is the hobby, that’s the most enjoyable part.

Not my idea of fun, but he clearly loved it.


 
Posted : 09/12/2019 7:32 am
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I think he was probably drinking other whiskies .

For some it’s the collecting, not the consuming. For example beetle collecting 😀

With a collection that size, how long would it take?

4000 at 3 a week= 25 years!

On my deathbed it would definitely be the million pound bottles 😀


 
Posted : 09/12/2019 7:36 am
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Similar example.

Stw users who assemble the perfect quiver but never actually rides them .


 
Posted : 09/12/2019 7:37 am
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I would, except I don't drink whiskey, and I don't collect stuff, so I'm probably not the best person to ask...!


 
Posted : 09/12/2019 7:43 am
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Whisky is rank anyway. 😂


 
Posted : 09/12/2019 7:46 am
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He enjoyed the time and could spare the money, so I wouldn’t say it was a waste (plus, it may have appreciated in value). People spend a LOT more on art, I’d view this in the same way. Says he went round loads of distillers tasting stuff, so may well have tried some of the more expensive stuff anyway.


 
Posted : 09/12/2019 8:00 am
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It looks like the fun was in the collecting.
He probably enjoyed a cheeky Grouse with coke when it came to drinking 🙂


 
Posted : 09/12/2019 8:13 am
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I was chatting to a mate about this as there was a bloke from Vietnam with a similar collection. If you collect Ferrari's there is still a value you even if you drive them a lot, if this chap drinks a bottle it's worthless. Maybe he just drinks a dram then puts it on the shelf.


 
Posted : 09/12/2019 8:36 am
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Drink a bit then top up the bottle with Famous Grouse - most won't notice...


 
Posted : 09/12/2019 8:38 am
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I understand this totally. I collect books, specifically a particular 20th Century writer. I have a number of mint first / firsts (first edition, first printing). They don't get opened or read. I've separately bought less valuable editions to actually read. I enjoy acquiring the collectable ones and building the library, even if it's just to look at and feel self-satisfied with. I don't think I would so much if I didn't like reading the author's books, just as I'm sure this guy probably did enjoy drinking nice whisky, as well as collecting it.


 
Posted : 09/12/2019 8:45 am
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Waste of money? Probably the complete opposite!


 
Posted : 09/12/2019 8:53 am
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Maybe he just drinks a dram then puts it on the shelf

Doesn’t that massively affect the value though? Like not having the original box with rare toys etc


 
Posted : 09/12/2019 9:10 am
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Doesn’t that massively affect the value though?

Not if he duct-tapes the bottle to the wall. Makes it worth even more.


 
Posted : 09/12/2019 9:24 am
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Drink a bit then top up the bottle with Famous Grouse – most won’t notice…

Someone bought me a bottle of Jamesons as a thank-you at the weekend.

Which is a conundrum, I don't enjoy anyone company enough yet hate them enough to invite them round to drink it. Putting it in a food bank seems like kicking someone while they're down. Which leaves saving it for SSUK, buying a novelty 700ml hip flask and making up some obscure name and passing it round some people* I only see once a year.

*love you really


 
Posted : 09/12/2019 9:27 am
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Ohh.. has he left me in his will ?

I do hope so..

🤪🤯🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃


 
Posted : 09/12/2019 9:27 am
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For me yes, but I'm a user, not a collector.

I see these guys with McLaren F1s and Ferrari F40s who seal them up in some brightly lit, climate controlled 'garage' and never use them, I know they lose a tonne of value if you actually use them, but it seems an utter waste to me, I'd be doing doughnuts on my lawn and taking my kids to school in them.


 
Posted : 09/12/2019 9:32 am
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I understand it completely. Collecting things is one of my weaknesses, and actually the pleasure of collecting stuff is something that transcends value. As said he was hugely wealthy so didn’t need to collect to make money. Just strikes me he was genuinely passionate about his interest, so fair play to him.


 
Posted : 09/12/2019 9:33 am
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Thisisnotaspoon, I similarly was given a bottle of Jamesons... Turns out it's good in coffee or hot chocolate (just a bit nasty on its own).


 
Posted : 09/12/2019 9:34 am
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Which is a conundrum, I don’t enjoy anyone company enough yet hate them enough to invite them round to drink it. Putting it in a food bank seems like kicking someone while they’re down. Which leaves saving it for SSUK, buying a novelty 700ml hip flask and making up some obscure name and passing it round some people* I only see once a year.

which begs the question - whats actually wrong with Jamesons.

Was a cheap saturday night stable when i worked in Angola. - Jamesons for the whiskey drinkers and old karee for the brandy drinkers (south africans)

it was good enough that i knew when the cleaner had swapped out my jamesons for "BEST" whisky (local shit) - although both are better than Bells.

Have drunk worse single malts.

Perfect stuff to stick in with a mixer.


 
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Like having a shed full of tasty mountain bikes and never riding them.


 
Posted : 09/12/2019 9:39 am
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I think its a fantastic collection. Looks great, he enjoyed drinking whiskey, & no doubt the value has gone up and up.


 
Posted : 09/12/2019 10:01 am
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Waste of whose time and whose money?


 
Posted : 09/12/2019 10:24 am
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which begs the question – whats actually wrong with Jamesons.

Perfect stuff to stick in with a mixer

I only drink wiskey neat.

Its probably fine if your aim is to drink alcohol for the sake of alcohol. But I stopped doing that years ago and now only drink stuff I actually enjoy. Actually getting drunk is something I avoid.


 
Posted : 09/12/2019 11:28 am
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Aren't all hobbies a waste of time and money, whist simultaneously being a great way to spend both time and money? He got to travel, bought a product that did have some value and actually did enjoy drinking other whiskey. Not for me but I get it.


 
Posted : 09/12/2019 11:32 am
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which begs the question – whats actually wrong with Jamesons.

Was a cheap saturday night stable when i worked in Angola. – Jamesons for the whiskey drinkers and old karee for the brandy drinkers (south africans)

it was good enough that i knew when the cleaner had swapped out my jamesons for “BEST” whisky (local shit) – although both are better than Bells.

Have drunk worse single malts.

Agree wholeheartedly.

Its probably fine if your aim is to drink alcohol for the sake of alcohol.

Other reasons are available.


 
Posted : 09/12/2019 2:27 pm
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Heir to the Pepsi Co empire then sold Pwpsi Co a few yeats ago.
Would he have whisky and coke or whisky and Pepsi?


 
Posted : 09/12/2019 3:00 pm
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I know they lose a tonne of value if you actually use them, but it seems an utter waste to me, I’d be doing doughnuts on my lawn and taking my kids to school in them.

Yeah, me too. I've never really understood it either, why have nice things and not use them for the sake of keeping them nice? You might as well not have them.

My gran had a set of cutlery and crockery "for best," they spent most of their life in a cupboard except for things like Christmas dinner where my mum (not the Queen) would come visit. Meanwhile she used teaspoons daily that would have to be bent back into shape if you squeezed a teabag with one.

Or a mate of mine, bought himself a Rolex for (IIRC) his 30th birthday. I've never seen him wear it ever aside from the day he bought it, it lives in a drawer. If it were me I'd have had the thing surgically grafted onto my wrist.

whats actually wrong with Jamesons.

Nothing aside from brand snobbery. As cheap supermarket whiskeys go it's fine, certainly a cut above the likes of Bell's which is great for cleaning paintbrushes.


 
Posted : 09/12/2019 3:03 pm
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I know they lose a tonne of value if you actually use them, but it seems an utter waste to me, I’d be doing doughnuts on my lawn and taking my kids to school in them.

Thats my point.
For the average person to buy a 10k bottle of whisky; watch or stamp it would be very much an investment or heirloom. But for this person I imagine money was not an issue at all.

With his wealth, I would have been taking the best dozen bottles to a luxury Norwegian cabin, to drink them with a bit of ice from a glacier whilst watching the Northern lights. You come into this world with nothing - and you leave it the same way.


 
Posted : 09/12/2019 8:25 pm
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Yeah, me too. I’ve never really understood it either, why have nice things and not use them for the sake of keeping them nice? You might as well not have them.

If you use something every day, it becomes ordinary, thus no longer an occasion/special to use it.


 
Posted : 09/12/2019 8:46 pm
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If I had the money then I'd buy 2 of everything - one to collect and one to use & abuse.


 
Posted : 09/12/2019 9:10 pm
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Drink a bit then top up the bottle with Famous Grouse – most won’t notice…

👍 😆 Famous Grouse is to go drink ...


 
Posted : 09/12/2019 9:24 pm
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Fwiw Jameson's neat is also fine.

But people who "only" drink their whisky neat are only getting about half the pallatte of the bottle anyway so I would take their opinion of what's good with a drop of water 😉 maybe a cube of ice or two depending on my mood.


 
Posted : 09/12/2019 9:42 pm
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Fella was probably worried they'd be a disappointment and he'd feel that he'd wasted his life?

which begs the question – whats actually wrong with Jamesons.

Nothing, it's pleasant enough once you get used to the sweetness. More like bourbon that single malt in that regard.

It's still sometimes a good fallback option in shit pubs.

People can be a bit snobbish about whisky/whiskey though, amazingly.


 
Posted : 10/12/2019 8:20 am
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More like bourbon that single malt in that regard.

aye its a different drink for sure with its own flavour and once you stop comparing it to laphroig or otherwise its quite nice - unlike bells which is paint stripper.


 
Posted : 10/12/2019 11:19 am
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Im a very non STW fashion i actually listened to someone elses oppinion and acted on it.

Things learnt:
Jamesons is nicer than bells. But mostly because it just tastes less. Ice, or galcier water melted on the thighs of virgins would not help it.

Jamesons in hot chcoclate is nice.


 
Posted : 10/12/2019 8:31 pm

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