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Although we had lots of willing volunteers Christmas lunch alone took an an hour and a half to wash up. What a total waste of time, that in the non Christmas period, I simply do not have!
That time - that quiet washing up time on Xmas day is bliss. Gives me an excuse to leave the lounge and get away from everyone. 'You need a hand?', 'No, I'm fine thanks!' (Now sod off and leave me with my bottle of beer!) 🙂
If your dishes are cleaner in one than hand washing you were doing it wrong.
There was a thread not so long ago that started a small international incident when I mentioned that I don't fill the sink and instead use a running tap, let's not go there again.
Washing up by hand?
Maybe sharp knives, some pans, and crystal glasses. For everything else there is the dishwasher. Dirty plates and cutlery go in, clean and dry plates and cutlery come out.
As essential as a machine to wash your clothes. Unless folks are advocating a return to coppers, wash dollies, and scrubbing boards?
@the-mudffin-man TBH pal, I quite like my family. You’re not into canal fishing as well are you?
I live alone, I don’t have enough stuff to run a dishwasher.L, I can’t afford to run a stock of Snow Peak Ti flasks (UK RRP £180!). I have autistic tendencies and have ‘favourite’ items (said flask, particular plates and cutlery). So I can’t really see how it wouldn’t work for me. I’m happy enough hand washing.
I remember one Mother’s Day us kids (4 in number) clubbed together to get one for my mum. She loved that. A family of six is a different can of worms though.
Had dishwashers in places I’ve lived but can’t say I’ve ever used one personally. When I didn’t live alone we had friends over and one of them, trying to be helpful, put some stuff in the dishwasher… it took me three months to find that out…
I am also not a fan of tumble driers. I live in the Highlands and managing to get my weekly laundry runs (esp. bedding) line dried is, well, challenging (and that is just me). My dehumidification is wiping the condensation off the windows of a morning. For a family though I can see the difficulties…
Oh, I also haven’t had a tv in well over a decade. Just so you all know that i am one of those…
We had a new kitchen 2 years ago. I wanted 2 (slimline) one dirty, other clean (effectively a cupboard). Mrs was not having it, no way. We’ve got one slimline and would not be without it. Still think 2 would be nice.
This. If I ever get to put a new kitchen in (I'm tight so unlikely), then I will have 2 dishwashers. Makes total sense.
@the-mudffin-man TBH pal, I quite like my family. You’re not into canal fishing as well are you?
No - but there's a few members of my family I'd gladly push into a canal! 🙂
When I put in my kitchen, I kept the old dishwasher & plumbed it in where I had a space, so now have 2. For big family dinners and Xmas, it’s a godsend.
It’s cheaper to run a dishwasher than run the hot water for hand washing.
They cause more house fires that deep fat friers for instance-
By percentage or overall numbers? I’d guess there are a lot more houses with dishwashers that fryers.
No – but there’s a few members of my family I’d gladly push into a canal! 🙂
Ha ha, those ones don’t get an invite! My house my rules.
where on earth do you propose the 2 washes a day end up drying?
In your drying cupboard? I have a load of racking carefully arranged in the cupboard my boiler is in. Airflow is controlled thru it using convection. It takes 2 machine fulls and drys clothes in under 12 hours.
We have one, have done since we became a family if 4. It’s far easier, they are much cleaner, especially glass. Totally pointless for one person though.
have a load of racking carefully arranged in the cupboard my boiler is in.
My boilers in the back garden.....
In terms of energy use our condenser drier uses less to dry a load than the dehumidifier..... But we still use the dehumidifier unless in a rush as it doesn't need such a high peak load - which costs us money.
Well there is your first mistake then trailrat. 🙂
I'm using waste heat to dry clothes
Obviously I'm being flippant but better designed houses means no need for tumble dryers
I could wash up three times a day to avoid my kitchen looking like a tip. Or I could bung everything in the dishwasher and put it on in the evening. It's not a difficult choice.
It's not a mistake. It's by design. Barely ever on anyway - and soon to be used even less.
Tumble driers pretty much essential for down care anyway.
I’m totally with @tjagain on this subject - except for
No need with beautiful edinburgh water
I find we don’t need Rinse Aid with the beautiful Surrey Hills Water either, but I suspect it isn’t so much the careful filtration through hundreds of feet of chalk so much as most tablets seem to have rinse aid included these days.
Apparently its true that dishwashers (the machine type) are more eco friendly than doing it by hand.... or would it be the same people trying to sell them that have done that bit of research ?
Family of four here.
I am clearly doing something wrong. as I still end up with a full draining board of pots to do, even after filling the dishwasher. My wife is an excellent cook and like most excellent cooks, she is incapable of preparing a meal without using every pot pan and utensil at her disposal.
For some reason it is also imperative to cover every surface with ingredients, but that's a whole other hill to die on.
If I had space for a dishwasher in my kitchen plan I would put one in even if I rarely used it. If nothing else it could be used for storage and then just used when entertaining.
Apparently its true that dishwashers (the machine type) are more eco friendly than doing it by hand…. or would it be the same people trying to sell them that have done that bit of research ?
I haven't looked into this claim but I am very dubious especially if you take into account the carbon penalty in building and disposing of the machine. I suspect careful picking of data
Our kitchen is too small. We had a tabletop one for a while which was OK, but got rid as we wanted space. I'm chief chef and washer upper unfortunately. Fairy original is the only one, or Aldi Magnum Original. Any 'fragrance' ones are pants.
Not got one in my new place. I don't mind, I like washing up - and contrary to an early comment in this thread, Fairy is still bloody great.
Only downside is my mugs are getting a bit brown inside, the dishwasher in the old place used to keep them shiny white.
I haven’t looked into this claim but I am very dubious
I think it's reasonable. They use very little water, which consequently needs not much heating up. If I do a full load of plates, pans dishes etc (as I did when our dishwasher broke) it needed at least two sinks of water.
Our new(er) dishwasher has an eco mode that can tell how dirty the dishes are and vary the length and temperature of the programme which might negate the 'as long as it's full' caveat.
my sink is a similar volume to the amount of water the dishwasher uses - but hand dish washing is at a much lower temperature and uses a far lower amount of detergents.
also handwashing is done using water heated by gas not electric so its certainly cheaper
You also said you still handwash pans so thats a dishwasherfull and a sinkful
Dishwashers are far more hygienic than hand washing, as longs as you use a decent temperature.
I've always had one, even in my first flat when I lived alone. It was a slimline one and it tended to be on every other day. If you cook from scratch, even for one, you still use a number of dishes.
If you hand wash then most of your stuff is washed in dirty water. Minging.
Grew up with a dishwasher but when I moved out I've never missed it. Helps that I live alone and it takes me no longer than it does to make a mug of tea (boil while filling the bowl, let it brew while washing up, remove tea bag and add milk while they drip dry) so it's no waste of my time. The hot water is even essentially free as I'm on Economy 7 and having the immersion heater on for the minimum amount each night gives me more than enough for a decent shower and two loads of washing up. Which all surprised me as I thought I'd really miss the convenience but when there's no inconvenience anyway it's fine, quite therapeutic really.
What's this about tumble dryers ruining your clothes? I've been thinking of getting one but not so sure now.
Two adults.
Dishwasher goes on every couple of days, unless we've had guests round.
Pots and pans are washed in a basin though - as are a few glasses that have logos as the dishwasher causes these to fade.
On general the crockery comes out much cleaner than handwashed and doesn't need rinsing. It's horrendous seeing how much soapy residue some folk leave on.
Only downside is my mugs are getting a bit brown inside, the dishwasher in the old place used to keep them shiny white.
Bicarbonate of soda (or cream cleanser and a bit of scrubbing!)
my sink is a similar volume to the amount of water the dishwasher uses – but hand dish washing is at a much lower temperature and uses a far lower amount of detergents.
OTOH, I can get three meals worth of dishes into the dishwasher, so that's three sinks of water and three lots of detergent. Plus the carbon intensity of electrically heated water is slightly lower than gas (accounting for boiler and pipework losses).
We have a fairly small kitchen so having a dishwasher means dirty plates etc aren't littering the place. And to not have dirty plates everywhere means constant washing up (both of us wfh). the washing up also trashes my skin and i end up with dry skin, cracks etc. The sink is also slightly too low for me and I'm not even 6ft.
No idea why anyone would purposely not have a dishwasher if they have the space.
Our old one died last week. Bought a new one after trying to fix it but it was 15 years old and I was pretty grumpy we didnt have a working one.
I hate tumble dryers they are for lazy disorganized people, wreck your clothes and are noisy and wasteful. A washing line, hoist or clothes airer with dehumidifier works fine and keeps things in better condition.
Tumble-dryers are for lazy people…? Ha ha ha. How about a family, all doing different sports every day, plus school clothes, in winter… where on earth do you propose the 2 washes a day end up drying? We dry as much as we can in the house or on the line but living in the wintry pennies, outside drying is not practical (weeks of 100% RH) and there’s only so much space to dry stuff inside. Sadly, we do have to use the tumble-dryer a few times during the week.
See also west coast of Scotland. East coast maybe but over here it's too wet. I also live in a 2 bed ex-council house, there's enough room for a horse and hanging airer but that's it. At that rate I'd never be able to keep up.
Underwear and towels go in the dryer, everything else gets hung, works fine for us and never wrecked anything. On whatever day we have summer I give the dryer a rest.
What’s this about tumble dryers ruining your clothes? I’ve been thinking of getting one but not so sure now.
Any T-shirts with transfers or vinyl will get wrecked, as will wool unless you have a special cold cycle.
(slimline) dishwasher, combined washer and tumble dryer - wouldn't be without either, in my single person household.
Life's too short for doing the dishes and hanging out the washing (which, you still have to put away after hanging dry anyway, contrary to some previous comment).
I offset the apparent environmental criminality of both by not having kids - the most environmentally damaging life choice one can make 😇
(also, my heating is set to 20 degrees all day 😘 )
dishwasher, combined washer and tumble dryer
Now thats really good. One unit to do 3 functions. Eco to the max
If you hand wash then most of your stuff is washed in dirty water. Minging.
No you're not, that's not how mycella work! And FWIW a dishwasher does exactly the same, it doesn't just run straight out.
Totally pointless for one person though.
Stated so boldly for something that is simply wrong.
Yup - I only got a dishwasher when I became a single person household
In the report done by Which last month they said “Our tests show even the least water-efficient dishwasher still only uses half the amount of water compared to washing by hand”. And they found the most efficient dishwasher was 19 times less water than hand washing.
mycella
???
I find dishes hand washed in my household generally need to go in the dishwasher because they are visibly not clean.
I find dishes hand washed in my household generally need to go in the dishwasher because they are visibly not clean.
So, obviously washed by either an inept oaf or a child on crap/no pocket money then.
In cold water, with no detergent.
@oldfart - look what you've started! I hope you're happy with yourself! 🤣
obviously washed by either an inept oaf or a child on crap/no pocket money then.
In cold water, with no detergent.
In reality, no. But I won’t pass your comments on to the current Mrs R, or our house guests.
In your drying cupboard?
Even if I built an oversized cupboard around the combi boiler, a) it doesn't really get that warm in there because it's well insulated, b) there's no way there would be enough room to dry for a busy / active family of four during the winter. No chance. We've got two spare bedrooms and still struggle to find the space to dry stuff. Hence the dreaded tumble-dryer. I accept it works for you which is great, but I'd be on a hiding to nothing trying implement that here. FWIW the tumble-dryer is rarely used between March and Nov because we can get stuff dry outside.
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Well that escalated didn’t it 😉 for perspective Mrs OF and I are both retired, only the 2 of us , kids long gone so washing up by hand isn’t a big deal . Families getting kids off to bed , getting stuff ready for the next day etc etc that’s different ,I remember that work shizz 😉 then the dishwasher is a boon but they aren’t without their own unique problems , dare I mention the eternal you aren’t stacking it properly , it’s not my turn to put it all away yadda yadda yadda 😬 that’s a whole other can of worms !
Our dishwasher broke and we didn't bother fixing it so we could torture teenagers with washing up after every meal. Works a treat and doesn't take any longer than loading / unloading the machine.
Works a treat and doesn’t take any longer than loading / unloading the machine.
see, I don't get this argument - even if you 'load' everything straight into the sink, it's the same process as loading a dishwasher. Then, do you not 'unload' your drying rack (or, towel dry your dishes)?
If so, dishwasher users are still winning in the time stakes, as they're not actually doing the washing up..!
Our kids unpack the dishwasher. I dread to think how long it'd take them to actually wash up...
Definitely quicker for me to have kitchen slaves do the washing up rather than me load / unload the dishwasher.
Also, the rule is whoever cooks doesn't have to wash up, so it encourages them to cook instead - which is a useful life skill, unlike washing up.
For me it’s the old my kitchen is tiny!
Definitely quicker for me to have kitchen slaves do the washing up rather than me load / unload the dishwasher.
Ah, quicker for you but not quicker overall 😉
one still has to take the plates from the table to the sink/dishwasher, and then from the sink/dishwasher to the cupboard.
Unless there's some magic going on, pressing a dishwasher button simply has to be faster than doing the washing up by hand!
Dishwasher isn't faster. It takes 4 hours on eco. However, I can sit and watch telly during that time 🙂
Unless something is really dried on then my 30 minute setting is generally good enough
Allegedly Confucius said a wise man spends more time eating than cooking and washing up.
I assume his wife did the cooking and washing up - unless he lived on pot noodle.
tjagain
Full MemberObviously I’m being flippant but better designed houses means no need for tumble dryers
I want something that's like a tumble dryer but not. A clothes mixer, maybe. I don't need the drying but I'd quite like the softness and floofyness. Just batter the clothes in a circle like a medieval armour de-ruster and give it a little hot air
Maybe I need a dryer drum powered by a bike, or something.
My formative years were spent telling my mother what sort of day I’d had whilst doing the dishes together. One to wash, one to dry and one to put away (usually after the other two had finished). When our dishwasher has failed the family conversation is always better.
I've spent the afternoon cooking a couple of dishes, one for today and one for the freezer, washing up by hand as I went along. A nice way to spend a few hours communing with a bottle of wine culminating in a splendid dinner to boot.
Our DW conked out, Control panel died. Replacment parts were available, but close to 50% of the cost of a complete new one.
So, survived quite well for over a year without one.
Eventually snapped and got it replaced, mainly due to a good one (Bosch) being on offer, and realising that it'd be expected when we come to sell.
We still only use it after big meals once or twice a week.
We're currently a family of four in temporary accommodation without a dishwasher. 9 months and 2 days and I don't think it's really been a problem. Primary school age kids are trained to do their own (mostly).
But we don't have people around for meals. It's definitely better when there's lots of dishes to have a dishwasher.
There’s only 2 of us anyway. I quite like washing up, just as much as Mrs Egf likes ironing. I wash up, she irons.
What’s ironing 🙂
I tend to use the dishwasher on the weekend for a treat.
Fire brigades tend to advise against using dishwashers and washing machines while you’re asleep or out.
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Although its only a risk to your property if you’re running it while you’re out
I always found it weird that white goods would work perfectly fine so long as you were in the house watching TV for four hours, yet would spontaneously combust and burn down the house if you went to take the bins out. My mum still physically unplugs the TV before going to bed every night for the same reason.
You need a better system – there’s a skill in stacking. My pile of washed pots is a work of art! 🤣🤣
You should talk to my other half. Crystal glasses on the bottom, farmhouse iron pans on top, why do we keep getting broken glasses? 🤔
I’m contemplating moving the washing machine into the bog, so we have space for a dishwasher.
Why not?
When you think about it, having it in the kitchen is weird. Your laundry's upstairs to start with, clothes storage also. The 'utility room' should be where you're already generating steam from baths and showers, no?
For breakfast we may have Porridge to start with followed by poached eggs on toast with fruit and yogurt to finish.
You have a three course meal for breakfast? I think I gained weight just reading that. 😁
The energy rating doesn’t look good however at ‘E’ , if I’ve read that right.
Point of note here is that the energy ratings were regraded last year. The old A+++ grade is like a C on the new scale, your 'E' there would formerly have been something like A or A+.
I’m contemplating moving the washing machine into the bog, so we have space for a dishwasher.
Makes sense but are you allowed to put an electric socket in the bog or bathroom?
I’m contemplating moving the washing machine into the bog, so we have space for a dishwasher.
Makes sense but are you allowed to put an electric socket in the bog or bathroom?
I was working in Norway for a while and the little AirBnB apartment I rented had the washing machine in the bathroom. Makes perfect sense.
The UK has much stricter electrical regs because of a hangover from crap fuseboxes with no RCDs/MCMs back in the day. It's why we have fused plugs. I can't see why there is a significant risk from a properly protected socket in a bathroom.
I always found it weird that white goods would work perfectly fine so long as you were in the house watching TV for four hours, yet would spontaneously combust and burn down the house if you went to take the bins out. My mum still physically unplugs the TV before going to bed every night for the same reason.
You're missing the point. As told to me by the Surrey Fire Brigade when they fitted alarms, confirmed by a mate from the LFB, and then additionally it did happen to another friend of mine.
It won't stop it malfunctioning and catching fire. But if you are awake you will probably smell smoke before the smoke alarms go off, and have extra time to get out. You certainly won't be woken in the early hours trapped in upstairs rooms where the smoke has now built up and need rescuing from upstairs windows.
Absolutely, compared to the number of dishwasher cycles run every day it's a tiny number, but google house fire and dishwasher and you'll see it does happen.
And fire, more than anything, terrifies me.
Happened to a friend of mine. Kitchen destroyed as fire took hold while they slept.
Fortunately they woke up and escaped, but doubtless they'd have twigged the kitchen was on fire sooner if they were using the DW in the daytime.
My mate and his GF had to be laddered out through upstairs windows. House was saved but almost everything was destroyed by smoke or water damage, they were out for months in rented accommodation while it was refurbished.
I'd actually much prefer something to go up (if it has to, obviously prefer still if nothing caught fire!!) when I was out, I'd imagine having to escape or be rescued from a burning house is not that much fun!I always found it weird that white goods would work perfectly fine so long as you were in the house watching TV for four hours, yet would spontaneously combust and burn down the house if you went to take the bins out.
I actually know 2 families who've had their houses gutted by faulty white goods lately, one was a fridge so obviously on all the time anyway 😬. One lot were home but got out ok, the other were out anyway as walking the dog!
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neither my parents nor my in-laws have dishwashers - both seem to enjoy the ritual of washing up. They also have a stereotypical “she cooks, he washes” approach and replacing 1/2 of that with a machine may upset the balance! They must spend 60+ hrs a year doing dishes. Given neither are particularly busy it’s probably good for them - they don’t have Internet forums to waste their lives in front of!
Zilog - I’m with you - I’m not sure there is much sense being in a house that goes up in flames, If my dishwasher goes up I fully expect by the time my smoke/heat detectors alert me it’s too late for me to do anything about it and all I can do is evacuate and call the fire brigade. With a retained fire service it will take at least 15 minutes for a crew to arrive and so there is going to be extensive damage at best. Whilst I know fire services are not keen on them being used overnight either (for the same reasons) - realistically the incidence rate is low, and I suspect it’s like asking A&E consultants about trampolines, cycling, etc; police officers about home security, IT professionals about VPNs etc you get an artificially enhanced perception of risk. I only know directly of one housefire caused by a washing machine (nealry 40 yrs ago) and it wasn’t actually in use at the time. If it was really a true risk when they are in use insurance companies would be creating exclusion clauses.
Fortunately they woke up and escaped, but doubtless they’d have twigged the kitchen was on fire sooner if they were using the DW in the daytime.
would they? Unless you actually sit in the kitchen and watch it I doubt most people would notice before any alarms went off.
Makes sense but are you allowed to put an electric socket in the bog or bathroom?
Contrary to popular belief you are, though there are strict regulations as to exactly where.
Either way, if you were to have white goods in a bathroom I'd expect them to be hard-wired rather than be on a regular plug.
You’re missing the point. As told to me by the Surrey Fire Brigade when they fitted alarms, confirmed by a mate from the LFB, and then additionally it did happen to another friend of mine.
I don't think I am. I wasn't trying to say that there isn't a fire risk from, well, anything electrical and I have no doubts that electrical fires do happen occasionally. Rather that as Zilog says, it could just as easily be your fridge. Do you unplug that at night? If the perceived risk is from unattended appliances, during the day do you think "I can't go for a crap, the dishwasher's on"?
Your fire brigade mates, did they say why the fire started beyond "the dishwasher"? Was running it causal, or was it a 40-year old machine filled with mice? Would they even know? They're experts in putting fires out, not in forensic root cause analysis.
Mitigating risk is good and all, and your pyrophobia is understandably driving it, but it does feel an awful lot like "established wisdom" from the 1970s. At the first sniff of thunder my gran would run round the house in a panic, unplugging everything and pulling the aerial out of the telly. Which, yes, probably reduced the risk of us all dying in a lightning strike induced fireball from "vanishingly close to **** all" to "absolutely **** all" but... ?
it could just as easily be your fridge. Do you unplug that at night? If the perceived risk is from unattended appliances, during the day do you think “I can’t go for a crap, the dishwasher’s on”?
No, because the fridge 'has to' run at night. Your washing machine and dishwasher doesn't.
Look, I'm only passing on info given to me by the FB and backed up by 'anecdote' and maybe i am over sensitive. Typically STW, sounds like you know better so crack on.
Makes sense but are you allowed to put an electric socket in the bog or bathroom?
Contrary to popular belief you are, though there are strict regulations as to exactly where.
Either way, if you were to have white goods in a bathroom I’d expect them to be hard-wired rather than be on a regular plug.
The tumble dryer is already in the bog. Hard wired via fused spur. Toilet and hand basin only. Bath and shower are in another room.
Would mean some plumbing, either stacking the units and building a taller cupboard, or swapping to a washer dryer. Not keen on extra expense of a new washing machine on top of the cost of the dishwasher.
There are other options for the dryer. I think next door have Thiers outside by the sound of it!
Either way I've promised to sort out a dishwasher over the Christmas break. How romantic!
No dishwasher here. No ideal place for it without losing cupboard space. Only the 2 of us so one cooks and one washes. Fairs fair. I seriously doubt it uses more power or even water. We're very frugal and have nice low bills each month. 20 minutes max to wash up an elaborate meal and max 2 small washing up bowls if I've used lot's of large saucepans and baking trays. Everything is lightly rinsed before air drying on the rack and no need to put everything away apart from big stuff. It's perfectly tidy on the drainer until you use it next. Whoever said you have to wash up 3 times a day so use 3 times as much... seriously a couple of toast plates and mugs from the morning and those get done with dinner. If I do wash up just a small amount to be tidy it uses a couple of cups water max. Also washing up by hand obviously saves money in winter as you're moving about more so saves needing the heating on as high during that time plus we're on our feet so helping fight the obesity epidemic. Win win 😉
Whoever said you have to wash up 3 times a day so use 3 times as much
That would be me. Family of four...
After changing all my old halogen downlighters to LED about 8 years ago I've little fear of a fire being started by the dishwasher.
When I pulled the units out of the ceiling, to remove the 12v transformers, I was horrified to see how many of them had either burnt or chewed wires with no insulation and exposed wires. It was lethal!
No, because the fridge ‘has to’ run at night. Your washing machine and dishwasher doesn’t.
But the fridge can, and does. Daily (nightly) and continually, for years.
Look, I’m only passing on info given to me by the FB and backed up by ‘anecdote’ and maybe i am over sensitive. Typically STW, sounds like you know better so crack on.
I don't know better, rather I'm considering the authority of your info.
Some bloke who puts fires out says that dishwashers catch fire. Sure, no reasons to doubt that. But why would that happen? Because the homeowners left it unattended and it went "aha, now's my chance!" or because it should have been maintained or replaced 20 years ago? Because if it's the latter then your risk mitigation strategy is addressing the wrong problem, and if the former then they probably should be banned.
Maybe there's a wider issue here. We typically get boilers serviced annually, why is periodic inspection of other white goods not a thing? If I had something in my house that I thought might spontaneously explode and kill everyone then I'd get a man out to it occasionally, or at least take the back off myself and look for obviously frayed wiring etc.
Some bloke who puts fires out
With this you're starting to be a bit of a dick now. A huge part of what the fire service do is based around education and prevention. It's not 'some bloke who puts fires out' pet peeve.
https://www.london-fire.gov.uk/safety/the-home/bedtime-checks/
From Staffs:
“Don't be tempted leave the washing machine, tumble dryer or dishwasher running overnight or while you are out. <b>They are a fire risk because of their high wattage, friction and motors</b>.
Your point on doing regular inspection is also kind of covered; rather than the inexpert 'take the back off and check for frayed wires' if it starts to malfunction get it properly checked, and secondly register it - so you can get recall notices if something is identified.
I absolutely understand tumble dryers best being run while the house is occupied seeing as they do get really quite warm and there's a fair amount of burny, fluffy stuff in them.
But the fire brigade don't seem to be making much noise about boilers which generally get very hot and handle stuff that goes bang!
Or ovens, or microwaves both of which have plenty of potential for starting fires.
Do some people not have any of those because there is a slim chance that they too might burst into flames?
Isn't it more important to have effective, linked, smoke detectors in the room? Just in case your, water filled, washing machine does catch fire?
(Some of the above is said in jest, but not necessarily all of it 😉)
do you put your oven on and then go to bed?
And the point isn't about boilers (which should be serviced every year) or microwaves, or fridges, or even about washing machines and tumble dryers.
The thread was about the convenience of putting the dishwasher on last thing at night and waking up to a clean set of pots and pans. Which someone rightly said was against the advice of the fire brigades, etc.
The London Fire Brigade told the Guardian that it attends a fire that can be traced to white goods of some sort on a daily basis. As a result it advises people not to leave them unattended overnight.
If a fire breaks out during the night, whatever the cause, the risk to life is always greater as it is very likely people will be asleep and have less time to react and escape,” an LFB spokesman says.
While only 11% of fires occurred in the five hours between midnight and 5am, these caused a fifth of all deaths in Great Britain in 2013-14.
I know people will say doubling your risk from 0.0000x to 0.00002x, etc., but why double the risk if you don't have to.