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Hi,
I’m looking for a new walking waterproof jacket. It seems that they are all variants of mountaineering jackets that are shorter and lacking pockets. Is there a genuine change in the market or am I looking in the wrong place? I’m after one of the more traditional types that is longer and has decent pockets. It needs to be durable, 100% waterproof and relatively breathable with out costing the earth.
Thanks for your help,
Berghaus Light Trek jacket.
We have them as staff uniform. Longer than most. Low 'traditional' pockets, good hood. Really good fabric.
I don't like the seam inside the hand pockets.
It's an older model, but still available online.
https://www.berghaus.com/light-trek-mens-waterproof-jacket/421533.html
Berghaus Hillwalker Long may fit the bill.
I have a Berghaus Mera Peak that is excellent. Goretex, decent pockets (including chest pockets that can hold an OS map) and a good length. They are no longer made but if you hunt around you may be able to find old stock somewhere.
EDIT: Mk5 for £150 from Gaynor Sports, but only in M. That's a half-price bargain.
Arcteryx Beta AR. Best Goretex jacket I've ever owned, and I've had lots. Just better made than all the others. They're expensive for a reason, built to last and last..
I bought one of the Rab Pertex + based jackets and it seems a bit sweaty compared to previous goretex activeshell and paclight jackets I have had.
None of those are durable fabrics, but thought I'd mention it in case you got tempted into thinking that they were.
My paclight trousers have lasted for ages though - different wear profiles...
Paramo Pajaro.
Fits your criteria, especially the loads of pockets thing.
https://www.paramo-clothing.com/en-gb/explore-range/product/?pk=26B71132-849D-4AA3-B7BB-72818DC1F204&attributes=5A01410B-7BF6-46CC-8A97-FFEA0A577F6E
I've had one (well, it's a Halcon, but it's the same jacket essentially) for five years now. It gets worn more or less daily, for moorland walking and on many occasions has seen of a whole day of horizontal rain without letting any in.
It doesn't depend on a goretex or goretex style membrane, but does like to be kept clean and regularly reproofed. So the waterproofing isn't limited to the life of a membrane. Not cheap at over 300 quid, but divide that by the number of hours I've worn mine and you'll appreciate the value for money.
I’m after one of the more traditional types that is longer and has decent pockets.
Every time I walk to the shops in one and get the top of my shorts soaked, I wonder why they don't make longer jackets!
Sprayway has just launched a retro-style, modernised version of the Torridon Jacket, which was its classic shell from back in the 1980s/90s. It's a proper solid, crotch-covering, bombproof sort of thing made from heavy grade 3-layer Gore-Tex complete with a hood with a peak like a small awning. Not cheap, but if you're after a traditional waterproof hill-walking jacket, it seems to tick all the boxes:
https://www.sprayway.com/torridon-men-s-jacket

I wear my Endura waterproof Onesie thing when hill walking. Extra bonus - good on bike too!
always love to be different, but I have a decathlon sailing jacket
not exactly this one, but close enough
It's longer than my other waterproof, and for that added delight, comes with a bright orange hood, should you fall into a deep puddle.
I would have to say Paramo. My Aspira smock is 13 years old. I've just had it repaired with new Velcro on the cuffs and a panel replaced where it had a few holes from scrambling. Hopefully it will last another decade now.
Sprayway has just launched a retro-style,
Blast from the past, didn't know they were still going. Didn't they sponsor Alison Hargreaves at one point in the 90s....
I trust in Mountain Equipment and nothing else. Not the cheapest, but you get what you pay for, and in my line of work where I can spend all day in whatever the weather can throw at me, I don't mind paying extra, and they last as well.
also recently got a pertex to replace an event jacket.
bad move
When i wanted the same i found the best range of longer coats at Blacks. Ended up with a craghopper one. Maybe not up to scaling Everest but certainly waterproof,breathable and comfortable enough for a day in UK hills.
Having a huge dislike of wet trousers, if more than a few drops is coming down I tend to put on over trousers as well as jacket, so short length isn't really an issue.
Blast from the past, didn’t know they were still going. Didn’t they sponsor Alison Hargreaves at one point in the 90s….
Yep, she was their main sponsored athlete before it all went tragically wrong, though mostly they were a mountain walking brand rather than a technical climbing one. They're very much still around, though they've kind of struggled with what sort of brand they are - family / mountain / price point etc. They're also Mountain Equipment's sister company - same group as Ronhill - and based in the same building. I think their designer is actually ex-ME as well. The new Torridon's a bit like the modern Mini or Beetle - similar cosmetics and style lines, but modern fabrics and construction.
I trust in Mountain Equipment and nothing else.
Yeah, I think they make the best technical shell jackets on the market at the moment. Their Alpine fit is just brilliant. The Kongur used to be their longer cut jacket, but as far as I can see it's now only available as the Kongur MRT complete with shedloads of reflective trim, insanely heavy duty reinforcement panels and a scary £550 price-tag.
Having a huge dislike of wet trousers, if more than a few drops is coming down I tend to put on over trousers as well as jacket, so short length isn’t really an issue.
I'm not so bothered about wet knees or thighs, but a soaked crotch is never a good thing ime, particularly around town when wearing overtrousers looks a bit odd. YMMV
Not a well known brand but we get supplied these in work and they're great (with the zip in fleece liner too)
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always love to be different, but I have a decathlon sailing jacket
Me too I have THIS ONE it isn't a model that would suit the OP's needs because of the pockets but I paid £40 for a red one three years ago and it is still like new. 100% waterproof, zips are indestructible.
I have had expensive jackets in the past but for walking I feel I pay a lot for things I don't need. The Decathlon sailing jacket is up there with my late 80's Phoenix goretex jacket for build quality. A bit of a brush with Thompson water seal every now and again is all it ask for.
My Aspira smock
Isn't long in the body as requested by OP.
That Sprayway looks the shizzle...
Thanks for all of the replies, there’s a lot of options out there.
The Berghaus Light Trek and Mera Peak seem good, although the Light Trek does seem a little shorter than I might like. Sadly I think the half price Mera Peak is tools small as although I should be M the reviews say it runs small. The Sprayaway looks good but spendy and too new to be discounted. Looking at Paramo they are also spendy and run a bit warm so more a 2 season affair? The sailing jackets seem a good option but a bit bulky, a bit like my shooting jacket.
Hmmm, I think I need to try some on.
Looking at Paramo they are also spendy and run a bit warm so more a 2 season affair?
Yes, they can be warmish. However, the Pajaro has zips on the biceps to vent, and the front closure has poppers, so you can open the zip to the middle, and have a fully ventilated front which really helps. (hard to describe how it works) What's more the sleeves roll up nicely as it's a soft inner lining. Plus, the entire fabric is about as breathable as a waterproof gets. I run hot, and as long as you layer it with a proper wicking undershirt it works pretty well.
Arcteryx Beta AR. Best Goretex jacket I’ve ever owned, and I’ve had lots. Just better made than all the others. They’re expensive for a reason, built to last and last..
I have a Theta AR which is a bit longer. However (as per my thread about what glue for GoreTex) it is currently on its way back to Switzerland to have its cuffs repaired after they both became unglued.
I’ve had one (well, it’s a Halcon, but it’s the same jacket essentially) for five years now. It gets worn more or less daily, for moorland walking and on many occasions has seen of a whole day of horizontal rain without letting any in.
I must be doing something wrong. My Halcon quickly gets sodden in heavy rain.
Yes, they can be warmish. However, the Pajaro has zips on the biceps to vent, and the front closure has poppers, so you can open the zip to the middle, and have a fully ventilated front which really helps. (hard to describe how it works) What’s more the sleeves roll up nicely as it’s a soft inner lining. Plus, the entire fabric is about as breathable as a waterproof gets. I run hot, and as long as you layer it with a proper wicking undershirt it works pretty well.
I run hot and Paramo, even vented with a Brynje mesh baselayer on for maximum cooling, is too warm for me unless it's sub-zero out. The other issue with Paramo is that it's still relatively heavy and bulky, even the new lighter stuff like the Velez jacket, which makes it less packable if you do want to take it off. I like Paramo for UK winter stuff, but ime it's like wearing an extra baselayer all the time.
I must be doing something wrong. My Halcon quickly gets sodden in heavy rain.
You probably need to re-proof it then. See:
https://www.paramo-clothing.com/en-gb/customerservice/faq/#
One downside with Paramo is that it's not technically 'waterproof' in the sense of resisting water under pressure. If you lean against a wet rock face or kneel in a puddle, the water will get through, same under pack straps if the proofing is marginal / needs re-doing.
this was my actual coat https://www.decathlon.co.uk/offshoroa-mens-sailing-jacket-dark-blue-id_8319503.html
obviously they don't do it anymore!
it's not too bulky. It is obviously bulkier than the summer rainjacket, but I've moved onto it this week. The summer jacket is a Didriksons, like (but not) this https://www.didriksons.com/en/men/jackets/shell-outdoor-jackets/calvus-men-s-jacket-502523-108
Had that about 10 years, packs into the smallest possible size, and is so incredibly waterproof.
Reasonably tricky to get over here though
Edit - memo to self - check before posting!
My winter jacket is a north face on and covers the bum plus a bit more
So after trying jackets from Rab, Mountain Equipment, TNF, Montane and Berghaus I decided on a Berghaus Fellmaster.
It turns out that fit is the most important and there is a massive variety in it. The Fellmaster isn’t by any means the best but it’s durable with a good hood. Length is decent and there are 2 useful pockets with an internal stash pocket. Sadly there is no external storm flap and. Ben zip is not a waterproof one. However at £100 or so it’s decent.
Thanks all.