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The US government made an announcement saying that the US would open up to foreign travellers "from early November" and an exact date would be given soon.....
waiting with anticipation . . . .
Not sure in the announcement date but anticipating it’ll coincide with Thanksgiving on 25 November weekend. Hope so as got a skiing trip booked to Seattle early next year.
They only said that because Biden was facing a row of pissed off heads of states in the Oval Office last month and he wanted to talk about something else.
I'm not holding my breath.
I'm clearly in a minority but I'm still not seeing any evidence that any travel outside your own country is a good idea yet... irrelevant of who says they are open, I've absolutely no desire to travel abroad yet.
That will change but not for a while.
I’ll spare you the details of why, but I came over to the US expecting to be here for a week or two but have now been here for 5 months. Whilst there are differences on the way people act over COVID there are many similarities to the UK Whether that’s government action/guidance, vaccination take up or antivax or some members of the public rejection/compliance of rules, it’s all there. Transatlantic Air travel (I’d style be nervously over internal) given the rules is probably as safe as it can be, as ever just be cautious within your own boundaries wherever you end up. Wonder though if the US will accept AZ vaccine for entry as its not on their FDA approved list yet. Me? I’ve just enjoyed a summer of riding with no mud, only dust. Can’t be all bad 😀
I have had the AZ vaccine and I have flights booked to spend Christmas with my partner and nearly-mother-in-law. Desperately hoping it works out, otherwise it’ll be the 4th trip there I’ve had to cancel. Not all travel is tourism!
Don't forget you'll need fuel to get to and from the airport! This is likely to be the limiting factor as things currently are.
any evidence that any travel outside your own country is a good idea yet
its as good idea for the same reasons as it was pre-pandemic - relaxation, expanding your mind and viewpoint, meeting friends or new people. I just got back from a week in whistler, riding the best trails in the world in great weather. Doing that within the borders of the UK would be somewhat tricky..
5Lab, yeah, I understand that, but at what point does expanding your own viewpoint/personal relaxation get outweighed by the risk to your home country through potential risk of infection/transmission?
One person might not make a difference, but if many people think like that it will.
Same goes for climate change I guess.
Well, I guess we are pretty screwed as a civilisation, so fill your boots I guess.
5Lab, yeah, I understand that, but at what point does expanding your own viewpoint/personal relaxation get outweighed by the risk to your home country through potential risk of infection/transmission?
BC has 1/3 the number of cases per 100,000 compared to the UK, requires vaccination to enter any pub or restaurant as well as PCT testing and vaccination to enter. Being there for a week is much safer than being in the uk.
Fair point, but you still have to travel through at least two major infection/transmission choke points to get there and sit in a plane for a long time with people that may or may GAS about mask wearing.
Sorry, Covid has really altered how I view travelling, so a lot of this is my view on other peoples' risk appetites.
at what point does expanding your own viewpoint/personal relaxation get outweighed by the risk to your home country through potential risk of infection/transmission?
One person might not make a difference, but if many people think like that it will
My take on this is that we're well past the point at which most of the international travel restrictions makes any difference. For better or worse the UK's COVID approach has ensured that we have plenty of 'home grown' virus circulating.
Fair point, but you still have to travel through at least two major infection/transmission choke points to get there and sit in a plane for a long time with people that may or may GAS about mask wearing.
airports are still fairly deserted - for example heathrow is running at approx 25% of the numbers it had in 2019 - so social distancing there is easier than in a local pub or shopping centre. You are also masked, vaccinated and tested.
On planes you are fairly packed in, for sure, but you're also only sat near people who are vaccinated, and tested negative within the previous 72 hours. even if that wasn't the case (and the plane just had 250 random people off the street) you would have a ~7% chance of *someone* on the plane having covid, forcing testing\vaccines in advance drops that number down to something like 0.01%. Again, you're more likely to get it in the pub.
I don't mind if other people don't travel, but really the risks of catching covid on a similar trip are negligable.
Borders opened and tickets booked. Let's hope neither of us catch Covid now!
Just over here in the US having flown over yesterday.
The BA flight wasn’t busy but that will change post 8th November. Overall they were pretty good with masks etc… but the internal flight I took was full and US airports seem pretty damn busy. So sorta pointless some of the restrictions (disembark in groups from BA)on the transatlantic flight.
Now down in Florida and there is more mask wearing at the airport than at LHR! Outside the airport - not a mask in sight.
It was though pretty weird to be the only person in the “visitor / ESTA” queue arriving in the US!
3:15 am - gotta try to go back to sleep…
Just filled in our ESTA applications . . . so many questions!