[Closed] VW transporters?

I'm running a 1.9td T4. It's slow, but that suits what I want, I.e slow down the pace at weekends and get away and enjoy ourselves.
It was fairly high mileage, but it's been reliable so far.
Being SWB it's not much longer than an estate car, but with masses of room inside.
Rock and roll bed installed on rails, just got to get some units to fit fridge cooker and electrics etc
Roll on summer

If you venture onto [url= http://www.vwt4forum.co.uk/index.php ]T4Forum[/url] Then thats the way madness lies.

Go onto the conversion sections and follow some of them. I am currently converting a vivaro but those Transporters are a thing of beauty.

One of my favourites [url= http://www.vwt4forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=139864 ]Linky[/url]

I've had a few transporters and the extra 16" you get with the lwb makes a huge difference internally and only a slight difference driving and parking .

I have a T5 SWB I converted to a camper, you have to be mm perfect with measuring to get everything to fit in, doing it again I would get a LWB

personally i would take the money you were thinking of spending on converting it and buy a caravelle instead. no potential insurance hassles and no lower speed limits because it is a van, and cheaper on dartford crossings etc because it is a car

the extra 16" you get with the lwb makes a huge difference internally and only a slight difference driving and parking

While I haven't owned a SWB to compare it to I went for the LWB for the extra internal space (bikes straight in down the side behind the 2nd row seats). I can't see the extra length makes any appreciable difference when driving, and only slightly when parking. Which to be honest seems to be mostly due to the poor steering lock. I was coming from a MB Iveco though, that altough bigger in everyway had a 2m smaller turning circle due to the RWD allowing good steering lock. I might look differently on the length if I was doing more city driving and parking.

Mines a 2.5 174. I do like the 6th gear and extra pull of the 2.5 over the 1.9, good for towing. I do however think a 2.5 130 is 'enough', and that's coming from a petrol head who generally thinks more the horses the better. Not driven the 2.0 to see how it compares to the older 2.5. I only got a 174 as that is what came along and ticked all my other boxes (M1 registered, twin siding doors, tailgate, A/C, twin captains seats. Also had some nice extras not on my list: sunroof, front swivels, T/C). Despite the power it is (usually) driven at a slower pace than my cars, more of a return to the days of having a Land Rover as my daily driver. I enjoy trundling along with a view over the hedges again 🙂

you ALL should be ashamed with all this 'Talky talky' but No pictures!!! 😡 hang your heads in shame and sort it out! 😆

Yes pictures would be fab. I haven't opened what I imagine will be a pandora's box of excitement by venturing on the T4 forum yet, but heading over there now.

Revs you say you installed the rock and roll bed on rails. does that mean you can move it forward and bac... sounds perfect for what I have in mind.

SWB I think will suit us because:
1: Mrs Z is going to have it as her short commute and that is what she is happy with
2: We're not going to turn it into a camper, just a day wagon, with perhaps a bed for odd time its needed. We have a huge and lovely tent we will use for the camping.

I had forgotten about the lower speed limits for vans... ;(

I'm cheating and have ordered/bought a California. Pick it up in March 😀

You can't get a 6 seater with a rock and roll bed to my knowledge. The only R&R beds I've seen wth belts are limited to 2.
As above the extra length of the lwb could be useful bu depends what you need to carry. My SWB kombi is for my needs - 3 people plus bikes whole, 5 plus bikes and gear with front wheels off.
It also depends a bit on budget - there is a big vw scene tax, works both ways as residuals are good but definitely something to consider.

I have owned two VW T4s in the last ten years. In fact, I only sold on my last one (LWB) because we had outgrown it as a family. My T4 before that was a SWB. Both were 'W' reg, both had a 2.5 TDI engine, and both were bloody brilliant.

The SWB I sold on with more than 220K on the clock and it still looked and drove very nicely, while the LWB had about 160K on the clock, and was less fancy, but went for well over my original asking price to a man who was going to convert it into a wheelchair accessible vehicle.

Between the two of them, I drove T4s for about 10 years.

I strongly recommend.

Hi fellow singlespeeder 🙂

I've seen a company doing seat swivels for the passenger double seat so you could look into having a fixed rear bench seat and having a simple bed that rests between the two rows of seats if its just for occasional use, this would allow the bed to extend into the cab and leave more space for Banjo's/Sax's/Bike's at the rear. At £250 ish its also a lot cheaper than a crash tested rock and roll seat.

I spent ages trying to find a double seat swivel for my Iveco but no one did them at the time.

And on the length, its the width thats the issue, the length only comes into play if trying to parallel park 🙂

Been gauging prices for a while now and gosh are they variable. I would like a 9 seater shuttle with the 1.9tdi (2.5 ok tho;) but am open to a factory kombi too at a push if well insulated/sound proofed. High miles is fine as we'll only do c5k a year but fsh is vital with the engines. Large scene tax and still uncertain as to swb or lwb..... doesn't help that the better examples seem to be in the deep south and I'm oop north.

Trouble is there really isn't a competitor out there that ticks all the same boxes (why does hardly anyone else do a bench passenger seat so you can carry 6 and loads of kit?).

steveh - Member

You can't get a 6 seater with a rock and roll bed to my knowledge. The only R&R beds I've seen wth belts are limited to 2.

My van was a caravelle converted to a camper 2 seats up front, 2 seats with R and R bed and seat belts, plus I can put the double seat back in technically making it a six seater. Leg room on R and R seat would be limited to people with very thin legs however in a LWB the extra 14" would allow normal people to fit in.

we have a T5 2.5ltr 130 LWB. awesome, it is..... full leather, two captains (passenger on swivel base)

swallows bikes and other crap easily, although we have a bike rack. being a LWB means that there is enough room to sleep behind the 2nd row of seats. with all seats removed (camping modus) it is cavernous.

we're getting a poptop fitted in May. i guess that is when the real fun starts! don't want a traditional conversion with a r'n'r bed, rather a bench down the drivers side, underneath which the fridge, sink/hobs is stowed along with some storage space.

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porter_jamie - Member

personally i would take the money you were thinking of spending on converting it and buy a caravelle instead. no potential insurance hassles and no lower speed limits because it is a van, and cheaper on dartford crossings etc because it is a car

why pay all that money for a comprimised vehicle?

they make sense in Europe, but not for UK roads, imo... sliding door is on the drivers side meaning that your passengers have to enter and exit the car from the road rahtr than the pavement.

also, i find the interior a bit Germanic and staid (sp). a little too twee, as it were.

the 2.0ltr engine is fine, but does not have the grunt/pick up of the 2.5

you ALL should be ashamed with all this 'Talky talky' but No pictures!!!

Sorry 😐

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As you can see the 'bed' in the back fold up to allow loading right up to the back of the second row seats.

There is also a second set of floor points for the second row seats to allow them to be fitted further back. Too close to allow third row, and missing the seat belts for the outer seats, though the center rear could be used. But the advantage is when camping this configuration create a nice open 'lounge' space with the front seats swiveled round. It still allows a decent load space behind the seats, although limiting with bikes. Simply fold the seat back down and the bed goes over the top of the folded seat. It's quite a well thought out setup that the previous owner put in.

Steer Clear of Shuttles, they're deemed commercial for insurance and stuff unless you want to use them in London where you can get better rate on the congestion charge.

Buy a T5 panel van and convert it to kombi, My conversion cost 2 grand and was factory standard.

Try Bognor motors they get some really good ex rental deals, mine was one owner less than ten thousand miles just over a year old not a mark on it.

Ive heard it said that the Caravelle gets a paint job from the "cars" department, and the Transporters get it from the Van department.

Seems to me T5s are no better or worse than any other van, but the popularity means they sell better, therefore people look after them better, are willing to spend money on keeping them running well, therefore increasing their life span and sale ability.

If you want to sell it in the future, get a VW. if you are going to drive it till it blows up, save your money.

I saw a T5 for sale with 600k on the clock.

Also, mines a 2.5 130ps. Its pretty much empty (panel lined, and a bench seat) and it isnt that quick with two people in it. I dread to think what a 1.9 would be like with 6 people in it.

Then there's [url= http://www.yourepeat.com/watch/?v=Cccg1ifsJlE ]The Rockton[/url]

If you can afford it, the T5 is an enormous step up in terms of everyday usability and "being car like" compared to the much older T4. One of the reasons you see so many of them, is that people just use them like cars!

The SWB looks better, imo, and IS easy to park in normal sized spots, so if you were planning to use the van as your only car, i would consider one. But, if not, then the LWB is a much better bet for doing everything else but parking!

Now, i should mention i don't own a T5, but i have the next best thing, 3 riding buddies that do 😉

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Post ride near the long Mynd;
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Smashing it at BPW:
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Riding down the Wyre:
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#VANLIFE 😉

Bloody great pics, chaps. Now I need one 😯

We've had a T4 (2.5 LWB W reg panel van with DIY bed in the back) for 8 years but with a 1 yr old child and now wanting the van as a daily vehicle we bought a T5 combi this year. The T4 depreciated hardly at all in that time (although I haven't actually sold it yet) and was not much trouble at the garage. One £1000 bill, otherwise nothing out of the ordinary.

We went LWB again on the new one. My other half wasn't concerned with driving it and you can get bikes in lengthways behind the rear seats. LWB combis are like hens teeth though.

For what it's worth, I think a captains passenger seat is a very big comfort advantage over a bench but this would take you down to 5 seats unless you go caravelle. Ours is a 180. Drives very well and I'm quite impressed with the economy so far. I would've been as happy with a 140 though.

I run a T5 SWB 4WD for my work, fully loaded with tools and it still pulls really well
The 4WD is brilliant if you can afford it or find one

Alpine I think you mean a California. Caravelle is the one with seats. Op needs 6 seats. I wouldn't want to sit on aftermarket seats fitted to a van floor whoever fitted them. Oe seats can cost huge amounts. Plus you need belts and in the vans some of the car avenue belt points are missing

alpin - Member

why pay all that money for a comprimised vehicle?

they make sense in Europe, but not for UK roads, imo... sliding door is on the drivers side meaning that your passengers have to enter and exit the car from the road rahtr than the pavement.

also, i find the interior a bit Germanic and staid (sp). a little too twee, as it were.

the 2.0ltr engine is fine, but does not have the grunt/pick up of the 2.5

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Doors both sides has a Caravelle, oh and its 2.5

Zukemonster,
Yes bed slides forward from travel and back for sleeping duties.
I found that you need to get the rails spot on for it to slide with the unwin system .
It does bang and clatter a bit when pushing it along the rails and I have 4 quick release fixings to turn to lock it in position, although this is a small trade off in my eyes for the versatility and being able to have the kids further forward when travelling.
My bed is a JAC bed with leather upholstery that I got second hand from an older couple who never even sat on it as they decided they wanted an electric one instead.
I still have to do the ply flooring and insulation when I get time.

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SWB T5 here. Full width R&R bed gives 3 belted seats in back, front bench is just tolerable for 2 so I suppose it could be called a 6 seater.
We have a seat swivel on the bench, plus a B pillar mounted small table which can be swung all the way out of the sliding door.
For one - two night climbing or Mtb trips we just use it as is, with a Jetboil for team and ready meal duties. Longer trips involve a Kyham drive away awning that takes about 10 min to put up, with proper cooker, table & chairs, Portaloo etc...
My 26" bikes used to sit nicely across the back of the front seats, bunged in pace. New 650b one just fits like that but is neater with front wheel off.
Got a removable towbar and rack so can easily carry 5/6 people and bikes.
Ours is the 1.9 with a Pendle remap to circa 140bhp. Pulls nicely and still returns mid 30s mpg wise which isn't bad for a van.
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We have a T5 Caravelle and we absolutely love it bought of a guy who'd specced it to the roof but used it to take his kids to school in (which distroyed the DPF). After spending a few thousand getting it sorted its now perfect for our family (5 of us).

Used for our annual trip to the Pyranees, as a day van, we sleep in it occasionally and use it as a mobile living room. It came with a diesel heater that runs off a second battery and you can set a timer.

If was to do it again might go for a California Beach but to get full leather and the heater would cost nearly £40K.

Getting ready to do Drum Mountain

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Kids in the back

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top of the superbangeers

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If anyone knows of a T5 kombi or Van going give me a shout. Just started the hunt, about 12k tops.

I bought a LWB T4 Caravelle last year, for general all round use rather than a specific conversion. The main point of a LWB is you get ~1.8 metres behind the second row seats so you can get bikes in fully assembled. Here's an XL Stumpy:

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Oodles of space 🙂 You can seat six people but the middle seat in each row is only a lap belt, if that worries you.

Driving a LWB is fine, and parking is OK but you'll find it's longer than most parking bays in supermarkets etc. They're pretty easy to work on and parts are cheap, plus a very strong owner base for help & advice.

If you want an alternative multi-seat van type thing try reading the Mazda Bongo forum. Dear God. That will confirm that the VW is the right choice !

Had a gorgeous T4 caravelle 2.5tdi, great family holidays and used daily for the school commute.
Would love another but really don't miss the bills.
If I were looking again today id take a serious look at a bongo. Same fun much less expense.

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I've got a SWB T4 Multivan, 2.5TDI R&R bed with 3 belts, 2 rear faceing buddy seats with belts so it's a 7 seater. Fammia rack on the back but can get an MTB behind the back seats with the wheels off or 3 in the centre with front wheels off. I've also got a Kyham drive away awning which has 2 bedrooms and a living area.

Its getting on a bit but has "only' done 176k so nearly run in.

Liking the pics here! But I am convinced this is the thing of us to get now!

Need to get Mrs Z to look at a LWB to see what she thinks, but don't hold much hope!

I'm liking the idea of seats that you can have in different positions (forward or back)

Time to do trawling and see what I can find!

Z.

mattbee - Member

We have a seat swivel on the bench, plus a B pillar mounted small table which can be swung all the way out of the sliding door.

Where from fancy one.

Dalesrider - I meant more that you can't get an R&R bed that seats 3 with belts, there are options to still get 6 it would seem then but definitely not common.

Hi singlespeederx2

That was a lwb we used in wales last year..at the time we had lwb,swb T5's and a Reno Traffic 6 seater swb,the Lwb was the most popular to drive and the most versatile..the Traffic I thought was pretty good for the money,the swb was always the short straw vehicle.

Seat swivel form Kiravans and the table leg was from some motorhome place who's name escapes me I'm afraid, with a top from eBay.
SteveH, my Cannons Forge R&R bed has 3 seat belts. As do plenty of other brands, rib, Smartbeds etc...It needs to be full width for that though.

RE rear seats, you can get seat runners (like on the front seats of any car), where the rails go for the full length of the van. You can have the rear seats behind the front seats, or slid all the way to the back door, or anything in between. You can also then slide them all the way back until they fall out the back door, for an empty van. Very smart if you are prepared to pay for them!

Pics you say?

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With 5 bikes and kit in the back ready for morzine last year:

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To give you an idea of room in the back of a Swb

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I think I've probably got the same table leg as Mattbee, is a double jointed job. Got mine from http://www.conceptmulti-car.co.uk/, think its a Reimo product.

Mine is mounted to the seat base of the front seat rather than the B pillar which gives it enough reach to sit between the front seats so its out of the way when the side door is open.

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We swapped our estate for a Caravelle last May, best thing we ever did. More relaxed drive, whole family love it. Brilliant for holidays with folks as can take one car out and about. Oodles of space with seats flat or out.

Squealer, what are those seat covers you have?

Looks right Spooky, only difference on ours is a round table top.

Just been offered a 2004 kombi with 100k for £6k from a friend of a friend. What should I be looking out for on a van this age? He has 7 years of history. Tempting as I could afford the triple bed seat on rails and pop top, which is all I want.

My top is just a bit of scrap plywood 😳

Kitchen refit on the cards, just not sure if we are selling the van in summer so not decided on the best way to do it yet. (its not a T5 before anyone asks how much, its an Iveco!)

We had a 2.4d Camper and a 2.5Tdi caravelle. Amongst the best vehicles i've ever owned. Bags of space, great fun and great community. What other vehicle offers so much. Would have another one tommorrow

Ours...

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Was a basic panel van - now with full camper conversion (Smart Beds Evo, Reimo roof, run of vohringer (sp?) units, Waeco hob/sink and fridge etc, full retrim in cranberry leather and alcantara, twin swivelling captains up front) with other mods to engine, suspension, wheels etc. Sleeps 4 people, lets me make a cup of tea and cook breakfast and all in something the same length as a Passat.

Loads more planned this year - new coilovers in the next month or so and some tidying up/subtle mods and an Eberspacher.

Best thing we ever did - looking forward to a full year in it this year.

The Eber is the best thing I ever bought for ours.
Has been handy for camping, but even better this winter javing the timer on it set so that when I go out to get in it for the drive to work not only is it toasty warm but any ice in the screen has melted. Not done any scraping at all this winter, even at half 5!

Tang if it's in half decent condition and not total basic spec (84bhp, white and no toys at all) it's cheap enough. Things to look at are as with any diesel vehicle - has the clutch/flywheel been done, i not is it rattly on start up from cold, last service, last mot fails or advisories etc.

Love my T4.

Best thing I have ever bought

Cheers Steve, I'll start asking some questions!

Would Mrs Zuke notice if you just looked at a LWB first?! Worth a try 😉

DaveyBoyWonder

Ouch, barn doors 🙁

2.5TDI SWB here. Absolutely love it. Bags of character. Sleeps 3 in total comfort, 4 is cosy. IME the awning is a must for storing all the usual crap on a trip.

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Can't believe no one has turned up to yet to call everyone fashion victims and tell us about how they do everything a VW can do in their little Berlingo etc....

Anyway, get the LWB. Makes absolutely no difference to the drive but give you a sizeable chunk of interior space on a van which isn't really that big if you want to sleep and sit around in it.

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130bhp 2.5 here. 90,000 on the clock. In three years it's had a starter motor, oil cooler and a horn. Spent two months trucking around Europe in it and it's probably the most sensible thing I've ever bought. Borrowed money to get it but according to asking prices on Ebay for similar vans I could probably advertise it for what I paid.

Oh, and I started off wanting a T4 until I drove one back to back with a T5. Very agricultural but, as with everything, some people love them.

I really need to stop reading these treads, not making my hankering after one of the VW's wane at all! 🙂

What are they like as your sole vehicle? as it's either go with one of these or an estate when I change car in the next 12 months.

EDIT: Sorry forgot to say will need to be able to take a baby seat too.

Re baby seats our Kombi has isofix points on all three rear seats and is inevitably roomier than a car for baby seat fitting. Ours is 2013, not sure how far those go back but I think isofix was standard on ours.

If be happy with it as a sole vehicle although it has obvious disadvantages compared with a car. Principally economy - very good for a van but somewhat different to a small estate car.

Using mine as a sole vehicle has worked out great, useable for lugging kit for work, bikes, climbing and kayaking kit. Dog likes it as it's easy to get in with his dodgy hips and back as the side step is nice and low.
I get mid to high 30s mpg wise form my Pendle'd 1.9 84hp, now giving circa 130hp. I'm sure with a 6 speed box I'd do better.
However, I had spent 6 years using assorted Landrovers as my daily drivers, from Series 3 to RRC. Means my ability to judge what is 'acceptable' from a vehicle may have been skewed a little, if I came to it from a car I'm sure it would feel lumbery, slow and expensive to run...

2008 T32 SWB here with 98k on the clock. In the classifieds at the moment because I fancy a fast car, but frankly I know I will regret it as soon as it's gone so this thread has been very helpful in reminding me how brilliant T5s are.

Mine's a factory Kombi with twin sliders, 2 captain seats up front & a 2 bench in the back. I've insulated & carpeted it, lowered it on 40mm H&R springs (NB - if you want to go down this route, & you will, then the the options are more limited/expensive on the T32), 17" alloys. Engine is the 1.9 104ps but it's had a Pendle remap to around 140, which made a big difference. A 6th gear would be nice.

Buying again, I would go LWB. With the bench seat in there's not quite enough room to get 29ers in length ways with the front wheel off, ok at an angle though.

They get do get cold & wet in the winter & ice on the inside is a regular occurence. Found that a couple of those crystal bags you get in shoe boxes, popped on the dash, helps.

2007 with twin captains and a triple seat for the second row, none of which have isofix. Maxi Cosi Tobi fits well and gives junior a good view out the windows. Our group 0 seat was fitted using seats belt rather than isofix and that also fitted fine in the van.

It's my sole vehicle, but I work from home so no commute to consider. We have another car in the household, the wife's, which I rarely drive.

If they could tow 3.5 tonnes in any weather I would have one tomorrow. However, I will have to stick with the Land Rover and a considerably smaller usable space out back.

absolutely love mine. Bought as a panel van but slowly got things converted as as i could afford it. now sporting a pop top

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echo what others have said. Best thing i have ever bought. Also love adding more to it (thinking of a heater/thermostat next)

Ouch, barn doors

Yep, I'm devastated at being able to keep one side closed and pile stuff up behind it on top of the back part of the bed and then simply close the other door.

Looked at both options, barn doors suited us better and was easier to find as everyone seems to naturally think a tailgate is the be all and end all.

We run ours as our only vehicle but when we bought it, we had the intention to see how it went and if needed, get a small car for the wife to use for work, nipping to the supermarket etc. We may still do this as it is a bit restrictive getting into some car parks etc.

Welshfarmer;

You need the baby version of my van!

3.5t towing capacity, ladder chassis, 180bhp, cheap as chips. Even got a front push/towbar on this one, and it'll be roomier than a T5.

Mine is 2.8t towing capacity, much bigger and only 120bhp/single rear wheels but it tows that 2.8t over grass/muddy slop most weekends. (or pushes with the front towbar) Mud and snow tyres help immensely and you can also get a locking rear diff, although I imagine they are rare.

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P.S Its not a 4x4, they don't do done.

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I've got a California, it's my second one. While not for everyone, and eye wateringly expensive I love it. This is my only vehicle and also my company car (!) which raises some eyebrows. We use it every other weekend for at least a night plus usual holidays - planning a week in NW in June then 4 weeks in France end of July plus weekends etc. Plenty of room for us with wind out awning plus sides. Well made for what it is, small enough to use every day and gets in most car parks. Its the 180 4motion manual I have, 2014 model. I stick an Atera bike rack on it which has 3 bikes and gets out the way of the tailgate. All good. But not for everyone.

down side is getting into it when someone parks too close.

I find this depends on what has parked too close. Something high like the back of another van, then yes the barn doors need less space to open. The lower bonnet of a normal car the tailgate can often clear as it lifts in a space that would not allow a bar door to open fully. Pros and cons to both door styles. I prefered tailgate, but it wasn't a deal breaker and would have had barns doors if that's what came up on an otherwise 'right' van.

Having lived with it a while now I think the twin sliding doors makes a bigger difference that the rear door style. Especially having kids.

Transporters are awesome no matter what rear doors they have 😀

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You can swap from barn doors to tailgate (at least on a T4 you can) a number of people on other forums have done this.

db
(T4 with tailgate)

You can do it on a T5 too - bit of a faff but Vagnostics do a conversion I believe.

I did look at many T5s with barn doors but as they were all ex "Tradesmans" vans they were not that well looked after, I was very lucky to find an ex motability 2 year old Caravelle. Took 3 months looking though

Spud -a bit late sorry but the seat covers are these:

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They're good covers but lack the zips on the front seats to get into the rear pocket and slits in the armrest covers for the adjusters.

Good but not as good as the inka ones.

Cheers Squealer, appreciate that.

If anyone has one to sell or knows any good ones for sale out there if be interested. Don't have a huge budget but something to take the kids away over the weekend would be ace I reckon

double post

Been having a good look at prices and have a good idea what I want... budget seems to be inevitably going up and up...

The big pain I'm finding is most of the 4-5 yr old vehicles are still sold + VAT... not being VAT registered really cuts down my choice of what I can afford....

Was really hoping to get a 4motion one, but they seem to be like gold dust, so I think I'm going to be giving up on that idea....

Z.