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Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

the cafe that is a neighbour had tried to do their bit as well but didn't have a shovel so I did theirs in exchange for a double espresso

Very interesting in that someone has borrowed my shovel to do his bit and someone else told me where the nearest grit bin was so my efforts where not completely wasted.  Lots of discussion on a local facebook group from folk wanting to help elderly neighbours ( thats me 😉 )

50 m of pavement cleared and gritted *basks in self righteous glow*

Community spirit is not dead in leith


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 11:52 am
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Nearly everyone in Germany.


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 11:53 am
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Nah, I did sweep the snow off my car windscreen onto the path instead though if that counts.


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 11:54 am
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Pavement outside house? pfft I have a driveway onto a cul-de-sac, no need for such neighbourly gestures


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 11:55 am
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If we had any show I'd have cleared it, and next door to my right the folks on the left can slip and slide for all I care.


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 11:59 am
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Nope - cleared it last night but it keeps piling up again and no one else is bothering!


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 11:59 am
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Did it yesterday ..within half an hour it had been a completely wasted effort ..


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 12:00 pm
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I was too tired to do the pavement after having done both driveways.

Damn the butler. He should have made the effort to walk to work, it's only a bit of snow.


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 12:02 pm
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I normally do, in fact I normally do our entire street because no other bugger does it. I haven't done this time as it's still snowing, more is on the way, it's a foot deep and only 25 people live on our street, which is a dead end, and they always bloody well leave it to me and I've had enough. I'll maybe have a crack at it on Saturday morning if I feel charitable.


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 12:02 pm
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My neighbours do mine for me. They are all in their sixties and seventies so it’s not like they’ve got anything else to do anyway.


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 12:05 pm
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Absolutely no point round here, no-one walks anywhere!

When I were a lad on a council estate, nearly everyone did & the streets were always clear.


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 12:09 pm
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Was shovelling, thinking it was futile, but then the neighbour demonstrated that we have a salt bin half way up the hill so we've distributed that now.  Good thing too cos she's a doctor and needs to get out tomorrow.  And half the street walked or drove past us and didn't lift a finger.  Even more annoying since it was them who drove on it this morning and packed it into ice making it hard to get rid of


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 12:11 pm
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Not enough snow to make it worthwhile here, although enough for half the schools to shut


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 12:13 pm
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I did our whole street a few weeks ago, then yesterday I did mine and the old lady over the roads drive and paths. Useless effort as it's turned out, we've had another 8 inches of snowfall and now the road is impassable. I suspect my car won't move until this lot melts which could be some time


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 12:14 pm
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Molgrips - shovel the pavements clear but pile it up into their driveways?


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 12:14 pm
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Last time it snowed the retired OAP next door cleared my drive and pavement for me!!!


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 12:27 pm
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Why bother it’s windy, still snowing, a complete waste of time + can actually make it more slippy. Fresh snow is grippy, compact snow is not


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 12:27 pm
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No point, it's blowing a gale here right now. Plus there's just me and my neighbour we're not going anywhere, and it's a rough track...


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 12:30 pm
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No, spoils it for the kids sledging down the street.


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 12:33 pm
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Funky  I also gritted it so any more snow will melt not lie hopefully.  Its not compacted - its clear of allsnow and ice


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 12:33 pm
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Did it yesterday, but the snow has been coming in horizontally all day with no sign of a let up so theres little point at the moment


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 12:38 pm
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They gritted all the paths around here on Monday by Monday evening they were covered in snow and have been since.


 
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[i]yossarian wrote:[/i]

My neighbours do mine for me. They are all in their sixties and seventies so it’s not like they’ve got anything else to do anyway.

Can you send them round when they're finished?

Actually I've just remembered I don't have a pavement outside my house.


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 12:41 pm
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Me neither. Oh to be middle class.


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 12:43 pm
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I've done from the traffic lights to my shop and all the way along to the wool shop as that's a favourite of the old dears.


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 12:45 pm
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Pavement? Nope, don't have one so nothing to clear.......


 
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Don't shoot the messenger (as I type this I know I'll be thrown under the STW-forum bus) but in this day and age, if you do clear/grit it and someone goes a over t over that bit, might there be a risk of being sued for compo? Right, off to do ours before I get slammed for being a jobsworth.


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 12:45 pm
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Don't know if this is accurate but I heard if you clear a section of public pavement and someone slips you can be liable. Ironically if you leave said pavement untouched then no problems.


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 12:46 pm
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Utter nonsense on the liability unless you did something really stupid like clearing it with hot water that then freezes into sheet ice

Its a complete myth like most of these things


 
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Cleared in front of our house yesterday along with the fronts and paths of some elderly neighbours. Couldn’t grit them as some **** had used the content of the grit bin to do their driveways. No shops have grit left as the council has bought it all up. Snowed again and you can’t even see what I’d done yesterday:(


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 12:52 pm
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I cleared mine last night. Then popped out before bed and emptied a few pans of cold water onto it.


 
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Don’t know if this is accurate but I heard if you clear a section of public pavement and someone slips you can be liable

That is one that HSE did a myth bust on - you're more liable if you don't... It's also been tested in court via shop in West Midlands, and again judge laughed it out....

someone on our street has decided to clear thier two car drive - and piled it all on the road! Ridiculously we have a foot of snow, it's not like anyone's going anywhere in a car...


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 12:56 pm
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Why would I do that?  I've got kids who are off on a snow day.  They did it and made a snowman with what they'd cleared.  Everyone happy.


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 12:56 pm
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You can't be prosecuted for clearing the path unless you do something really stupid or negligent.


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 12:57 pm
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Did about a 3rd of the road on our cul de sac. Will hopefully stop the compacted ice rink that lingers for weeks. Figured my neighbours are paying my salary with their council tax so I might as well make use of myself while school is closed


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 1:02 pm
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Cleared the pavement, and the road Infront of house as it's a hill.  It's not too steep but today cars are struggling....I smiled smugly as my winter tires grip very well.  It's only an inch of snow but seems to be compacting to ice today.  I'm the only person to clear anything in the street.


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 1:10 pm
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Me - yesterday - cleared both sides of my street's pavements as well as the neighbours paths to their doors. I then went and cleared a path to the crossing points over the road.

Went back out to do it again last night but the underlying snow had compacted and gone to ice, so my efforts didn't amount to much apart from making the surface shiny...this morning the snow has grown and I've been stuck working so not had a chance to get out.

Annoyingly, work is being done in the garden and there is a Bobcat 'dumper' sitting in the back garden - contractor has removed the keys though otherwise I'd use that to clear the street as 1 bucket would remove the snow from half the paths in a single pass.

Council hasn't replaced the grit in the only grit bin, so no means of gritting the path...old folk aren't venturing out though (which is probably sensible).

If I can get away from work this afternoon I'll take the bike out and have a play in the snow!


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 1:10 pm
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When I was a kid everyone/their kids did it.  Was fun too.  'Virtue signalling' is for the Internet 'community' innit?


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 1:36 pm
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Nope. But I did have a chat with my elderly neighbours to see if they needed anything.


 
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It would be like sweeping leaves on a windy day here, but I have in the past at my old place.

I took to the sloped road with a bucket of grit and a shovel, not that anyone else would have noticed, but I was only a few weeks out of physio for two badly broken arms so it was pretty painful - I expected at least one of my neighbours to join me - nope. They looked at me out of their windows every quarter of an hour, and then when I finished and the road was passable - took their cars out without so much as a wave of thanks, so **** 'em - hope the cold claims them all ha ha.


 
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you’re more liable if you don’t

surely not as the pavement is not yours ?


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 1:52 pm
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I'll be doing mine when I get home after work.


 
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My mother in laws neighbour cleared his driveway and the footpath in front but piled it either side blocking the footpath with two 2ft high mounds, a twunt of the highest order imo, probably chucks his dogshit into the trees as well.

I certainly wouldn't clear snow first thing in morning in the heart attack zone.


 
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Haven't cleared any snow since yesterday morning as I've been helping essential medical staff get to and from various hospitals in the Borders as part of my voluntary work for Lothian 4x4 Response

Even managed to drop some emergency milk off at our LBS. So that should be discounted servicing for a while 😉


 
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Am I helping if I shovel the snow from my driveway onto large piles on the surrounding paths so mums with buggies have to walk around them on the icy road?


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 2:02 pm
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My mother lives in deepest highlands just below a snow gate on the moor and is pretty used to getting snowed in. The sight of the highways snow plough coming is a mixed blessing - on one hand the road is clear(sih). On the other he is totally indescriminate about what happens to the snow. A 5-6ft pile of dense ploughed snow across the drive is a pretty standard experience. Leave it and it thaws just enough to refreeze as a waist high ice block that will be there for days, dig it out and the git will be back the next day to replace it.

Fortunately local farmers are brilliant - once they have their animals safe they drive around the community with a plough on their tractor opening up driveway entrances and delivering essential supplies if it goes on beyond a few days. The postie has been known to hitch a ride on a tractor to deliver post. Proper community spirit.


 
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And the paths thing - since a visit to Iceland we have been equipped with these things:-

https://www.amazon.co.uk/SehrGo-Traction-Universal-Stretch-Crampons/dp/B0772GD2HL/ref=pd_day0_200_4?_encoding=UTF8&refRID=AP2XNT0YBDPF930EH8GZ

(no idea if those ones are any good - random google). There are less agressive ones with wee spring like steel windings (on their sides) on the bottoms instead of spikes that are almost as good but not so harsh that you can't walk around a shop in them. Makes post snow pavements soooo much easier. Mum has a pair permanently on her outdoor slippers (crocs) for fetching logs - she is a game bird for her mid 70s.


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 2:13 pm
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One road in and out to quite a few houses round here, nicely sloped. Don't have enough grit to do pavements and roads so as it's quiet enough to walk on the road I cleared what I could and carefully gritted some parallel wheel tracks rather than use all the grit up with two more days of snow to come. Came back an hour later to find someone had dumped the whole of the rest of the bin massive piles in between where the tyres would pick it up and spread it. So that's us done until.it thaws, apparently.


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 2:15 pm
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Figured my neighbours are paying my salary with their council tax so I might as well make use of myself while school is closed

Good on ya. My mum (teaching assistant) was moaning that she was being asked to do some online training from home while her school is closed...

I only managed half of the pavement outside my house before I decided that there was little point as it was already compacted with more snow forecast, so I went out on the bike instead.


 
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Im regretting starting this.


 
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Of course, always do, its only decent.

That didn't stop the little shits next door using the pile as an excuse to kick it down again all over the pavement I'd just cleared, even though there's a whole street full of it to play in


 
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Nope, spotted my 82yr old neighbour* popping out for a paper this morning, figured if he can make it to the shops on foot the rest of the street** in their chelsea tractors can survive.

*I did ask how they were coping and if they needed anything, I'm not a complete dick.

**we're the last one before a new development with an electric gate, they all bring their bin bags down to be shredded by the foxes at the end of our drive/garden on a Thursday night and never clean up afterwards, they can swivel on it if they think I'm clearing snow for them!


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 3:14 pm
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NIce one bearnessesities!
I am beginning to think its a Sisyphean task however given another load has fallen.  I shall nip out and see what its like now and see if any other neighbours have done a bit


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 3:23 pm
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Ours gets stomped into ice before I can get to it, but I do clear next doors path when I'm doing ours


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 3:34 pm
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I am beginning to think its a Sisyphean task however given another load has fallen.

Salt helps.

Also if you shovel now, it'll be easier to shovel later...


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 4:33 pm
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surprisingly it wasn't bad when I went out - a quick brush and a bit more grit and it was clear.  No other neighbours have cleared anything bar a couple of feet outside the door of the pub at the end of the block  so we have 50m of nice clear pavement and entrances to two buildings cleared and the rest is compacted snow on top of refrozen slush


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 4:44 pm
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Dug my neighbours drive and gritted it as he was stuck in the middle of the road, had help from my son, my wife and another neighbour. Neighbour who drove into our street just after me just sat in his car whilst we unblocked the road.  We then cleared the road in front of us and the stuck neighbour.

I used to clear the slope on our road, even though I cycled to work, but I've not bothered for last few years as no-one ever helped. Not been able to last to winters due to recovering from a broken spine.


 
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My place is at the bottom of a very steep and narrow little dead end road along with about a dozen other houses. I cleared and gritted the length of it this afternoon having been sent home from work early.

It hasn't really snowed here in nearly a decade and the grit salt bin had filled up with Maccy D boxes, toy packaging, cheapo energy drink tins and, I kid you not, a pregnancy test wrapper. Just about sums up this shitty little town really..


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 6:03 pm
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It better not pissing snow again.

(Yes it's gritted 🙂 )


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 6:07 pm
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I suggested to my 12 year old daughter that she clear the pavements tomorrow as the schools are off. The look on her face was priceless😁


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 6:12 pm
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It would be pointless outside mine, it’s fine wind-blown snow that’s settling and sticking, and my road runs east-west, so the snow is blowing straight up it, any attempt is doomed to failure within minutes, if not seconds.


 
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I don’t understand the benefit of clearing the snow off a pavement. What is it?


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 6:21 pm
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Couple of neighbours did our street mid-morning, I went out and released it at half 4...about 4" of fresh snow had fallen...I enjoy doing it as it is exercise...hopefully work will implode tomorrow and I can get out for some playing in it!


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 6:31 pm
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"I don’t understand the benefit of clearing the snow off a pavement. What is it?"

So people do not slip and fall on it?  Like old folk or disabled?  so it doesn't partly melt and refreeze which is really slippy and dangerous?


 
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So people do not slip and fall on it? Like old folk or disabled?

Well I don’t know. I walked 6 miles to the shop and back today, the snow is no slippier than where it’s been cleared in my experience.


 
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Maccy D boxes, toy packaging, cheapo energy drink tins and, I kid you not, a pregnancy test wrapper

Sound like fine elements with which to construct a Raymond Chandler-esque novella set in the Grimy Streets Of Post-Post-Modern Britain!

The path took us along to the side of Maccy D's, and a lad opened the door 4 himself as we walked in behind him. He looked well bait so we ignored him. The door opened into a sort of space that was about as warm as Pizza Hut but not as chill. Kailee came in after me. Just then I fought she looked well peng. Then it was really hot. The air was thick, wet, steamy and lush with the smell of Big Macs an that . The glass walls and roof were like, well misty like. i fought it seemed well romantic n that. The light had an unweal yellow colour innit, like, like when you look in one of them aquarium tanks n that, yeah? I wanted to buy Kailee the Big Mac Grand to show her that I well-cared for her an that, but I forgot that my new creps I had on cost all that and I realised I is well skint innit. 'Dis place is well minghan, yeah?' I said this to Kaillee. She looked at me like I was a wasteman so I had to fink fast on my feet. 'Lets go by the grit bin and get relaxed yeah?' I flashed her my Monster and she looked up for it so I opened the door and took her back outside. It felt well cold outside Maccy D's but Kailee still looked well fit like she had a glow around her an that. But she also looked well angry and was screeching.
'Nolly wass yaw ****ing game eh? i fought u was buying us Maccy D's n that. You are SUCH a ****ing little liar right? I swear if you dont turn your stupid little body around and take me back in there I'll do this...'

I saw her Ugg swinging up on the end of her leg towards my tackle an that. Then night was full of stars.  Lying on my new black-slush tarmac bed I had a weird think about wishing I had a McFlurry to stick down my pants cuz I well burnin down there, oh mate, mate, mate.  Oh mate.


 
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Cleared as in shovelled away? No. Gritted, yes. Outside mine & my immediate next door neighbours on the semi-detached side. Neighbours kids on the other side were sledging on their bit so I thought it would be rude to spoil their fun.

No new snow yet so we’ll see how it looks in the morning...


 
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about 40 capapble people live in our appartment block a few sacks of salt available in the grit bin, nobody bothered sprinkle some salt on the iced up snow logged car park, some of the older frail neighbours walked accross the ice  with extreme care, i went out and spread grit around, ice melted quickly.

Then today borrowed some salt from the grit bin for a customer, and gritted their pathway as we where expecting a delivery of doors, path clear, delivery lorry stuck on m62,many miles away.


 
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<p>Why bother dumping grit on top of snow? Waste of time, effort and money.</p>


 
Posted : 02/03/2018 11:04 am
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Oh me too!!

Keeping my elderly neighbours drive clear (even though she doesn't have a car) so her carer could get in, been checking in regularly and cooking her hot lunch/dinner every day.

Carer also rocked up in a land rover in the worst of the snow on the first day (awesome people who don't get recognised for the service they provide).

Feeling good (and clearly needing to virtue signal on here along with JT).


 
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Re shovelled all the way to the top of the hill now, approx 150m I'd say.  There are at least three doctors and a nurse on the street who need to get in or out.  Only to discover at the top that the last flat 150m or so round the corner is deep in snow, about 3" of compressed powder now and I've not got the strength to shift that.


 
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Went out yesterday lunchtime and cleared a path to my house, neighbours were clearing part of the street and I felt bad that I did my drive and went back in as I had a conference call. Went out today at lunchtime and redid my path before shifting some of the stuff on the street. There is still loads there with the amount we've had but not enough to get stuck in a car now.

Also been out the last two nights in the 4x4 helping. Felt bad heading in the back of 9 last night knowing every car and lorry tackling the road by me were getting stuck but after two recoveries in whiteout blowing blizzard off the fields I was as wet, cold, tired and hungry as I could take. No to mention annoyed at people who couldn't wait for me to clear a car and tried to push past on a single lane, they'd have got left if they'd got stuck!!


 
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It’s melting now


 
Posted : 02/03/2018 2:58 pm
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One of my neighbours cleared the pavement in front of his three car width drive. Dumped the snow on the road blocking it for everyone further down the cul-de-sac.

Signalling he is an arse.


 
Posted : 02/03/2018 4:28 pm
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I’ve been shovelling snow and gritting a 200 acre site for 8 hours solid today

ye can get to f*** if you think I should be shovelling any more today


 
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On a steepish hill few hundred yards from my place some complete cretin had (very neatly) cleared their garden path but instead of dumping the snow on their already snow covered lawn put it all on the pavement. I had my trail tools in the boot so shoveled it all back over their gate, screw em the selfish fuppers!

Sound like fine elements with which to construct a Raymond Chandler-esque novella set in the Grimy Streets Of Post-Post-Modern Britain!

The path took us along to the side of Maccy D’s, and a lad opened the door 4 himself as we walked in behind him. He looked well bait so we ignored him...

I get the same feeling of empty desperation reading that as when I first read 1984.


 
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Had a nice couple of hours with some neighbours clearing the road and paths in our bit of the village. Good fun being out with people I only ever nod hello to usually.

Slightly ruined by the idiots 200m up the street who have cleared their drive onto the path so nobody will be able to pass for a week. Hopefully won't be too frozen tomorrow so I can head out with my shovel and move it onto their lawn.


 
Posted : 02/03/2018 7:31 pm
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The pavement outside my house doesn't extend any further than my house (either direction). So no, I did not clear any snow from it as no one uses it.


 
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https://photos.app.goo.gl/rj5pfKaOP9dTbNpl1

A neighbour shovelled his path and then did his neighbour's. Guess which is his?


 
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Nah, left it and it's now melting.

The old tw*t next door has cleared his drive and piled it up on the pavement. Tw*t. He did the same in December.


 
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