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All this talk fish and chips got me thinking about the science behind the application of salt and vinegar to the chips.
Vinegar first, then salt is the only way to go. The vinegar provides a "glue" for the salt to adhere to. Anyone who salts first and then vinegars is an idiot. I know some "salt-firsters" and they infuriate me immensely.
Where do you stand on the great mayonnaise/ketchup debate?
*s*****
Ketchup is for absolute idiots
Depends on the chip, IMO.
Chippy chips - A dash of Sarson's then some salt
Quality pub chips - Mayo, all the way
Dodgy burger bar chips - Ketchup
The chips on the Georgian Terrace at the Corner Shop in Knightsbridge - Nothing. They're simply divine on their own!
salt first,
then vinegar - to wash the salt down into the 'nest' of chips, i don't like it when only the top layer of chips is salted.
then more salt on top to replace that which has been rinsed off.
All rubbish. The vinegar carries the salt through all the chips, rather than just having it on top. Thus salt, then vinegar.
Chippy chips - A dash of Sarson's then some salt
Absolute tosh.
Chippy chips have to, by law, be doused in the sorry excuse they provide in the chippy. Non-brewed condiment it's called. Or acetic acid if you like.
Oh, sorry. It's just that my chippy uses Sarson's.
Vinegar followed by sugar in my case 😈 not into salty stuff, but sugary is loverly
Vinegar first then salt. Reapply salt after eating through the first application 🙂
Mayonnaise.
Vinegar, then salt.
Any other configuration is within the realm of retardation.
CaptainFlashheart - MemberOh, sorry. It's just that my chippy uses Sarson's bottles filled with acetic acid.
FTFY.
Salt first.
That's why we say 'salt & vinegar', not 'vinegar & salt'.
Peas (mushy, if in a civilized area) go first, obviously, then chips with the haddock on top.
Cod is acceptable if no haddock is available, but it's not ideal.
Ketchup is acceptable if your under 12, but signifies weakness of character in an adult.
DP, sorry.
That's why we say 'salt & vinegar', not 'vinegar & salt'.
Often with word pairings the word with less syllables comes first.
Salt first, then Sarsons to wash through the "stack".
Anything else borders on perversion.
salt first, as mentioned the vinegar washes it down to the lower levels.
It's an interesting topic, however I feel salt and vinegar pale into the background when trumped by northern chip shop gravy I wish it would become the norm inside the M25.
Curry sauce can only be added after midnight or 7 pints.
TJ, are you not a resident of Edinburgh? Salt'n'sauce land, ken, likesay, eh?
Having an Edinburger lecture you on the use of vinegar on chips is akin to getting a seal-clubbing tutorial from a Bedouin tribesman.
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CaptainFlashheart - Member
Oh, sorry. It's just that my chippy uses Sarson's bottles filled with acetic acid.FTFY.
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Erm..
At least 9 shakes of the Salt cellar thingy thank you.. then Vinegar when at my local chippy darn Sarf, but uoop North in Harrogate (at our fave chippy) I do it t'other way around.. Reason..? they use Sarsons uoopNorth and it just tastes that much better. I like the salt to drizzle between my chips see..also Haddock, no worm infested Cod thank you.. on occasion mushy peas, but a small pot.
No ransid savaloy nor battered excuses for sausages and most deffo NO to them there battered burger patty shi*e frisbies neither.
Interesting Fact that I think you'll all agree is a good thing..
In my local area there have been 4 Chippys open within the last year, all within a mile of each other.. all producing some wonderful cullinary excuses for a healthy meal.
Amatures!
Salt - Vinegar - Salt.
Best of both worlds.
I'm in the salt first, vinegar to wash through and re-apply salt camp.
Chips, peas and gravy for me.
Salt and vinegar, in any order, over the top.
Champion.
The Sarson's factory is about 600 yards from where I am sitting. It stinks*. 😐
* The Sarson's factory, not where I am sitting.
Gravy is the only acceptable condiment for chips unless served with fish when salt is allowed with a sprinkle of lemon juice on the fish.
Vinegar on chips is only acceptable when they are served with pickled fish.
Curry sauce is never acceptable, under any circumstance. Even when ripped off your tits on moonshine/fosters/rose/buckfast,etc.
Funny how so many people can get it wrong 😉
Gravy & chips = soggy chip heresy.
Shackleton you maybe a hero of the south atlantic and inspiration to many but gravy & chips warrants being left on an ice flow 😆
Onzadog +1.
How do people stand on the bacon (& egg) butty - Ketchup or HP?
"Gravy & chips = soggy chip heresy."
That's just hearsay.
Plus, you aren't eating them fast enough. 😉
How do people stand on the bacon (& egg) butty - Ketchup or HP?
Irrespective of the applied condiment I have never stood on a bacon (& egg) butty, but I once chucked a meat and potato pie out of a train window.
Mayo AND ketchup = Lush.
I have never stood on a bacon (& egg) butty,
More slippy than green chalk they are
Garlic Mayo, maybe some salt (before the said condiment).
😥Often with word pairings the word with [b]less[/b] syllables comes first
Surely deep fried haggis and chips with salt n sauce is the dinner of true champions?? God I hate living in England 😉
This vinegar first theory is based on mis-truths and other forms of weird fiction.
Best practice is to salt the chips first whilst piping hot and the bag is still open. The salt sticks to the grease causing a slight emulsification.
This is then a far superior substrate to apply vinegar.
Blind taste both and I know which will win.
you know that deep-fried "haggis" is actually made from the faces of small children, torn from the drooling jaws of pitdoberweillers ?
You need to be careful with vinegar strokes, you may end up glazing your knuckles. Especially when children's faces are involved, a harmless jaunt to the chippy can turn sour in no time.
It's good to see that the denizens of STW are all practising safe eating by always using a condiment. I know some will argue that it's just not the same, but you can't be too careful.
I used to work at ICI Salt works. The biggest supplier of table salt in the country. It was quite an eye opening experience. Since which I NEVER put salt on, or in, anything that's going in my mouth.
Vinegar on the other hand..... drown 't buggers in it
What about the Welsh method of cheese and chips? It's certainly interesting
Awwweewe if we're getting all "continental" by bringing in "other countries" like welsh wales and scotlandshire.. then I'm bringing in Belgium..
Who, in thier right mind, would forgo Belgian Fries, Mayo and Leffe.. on a freezing April day just before The Ronde??
Eh..
Go on then just Who?
Not I, I've been doing this for sure and carried on doing it all the way over to Roubaix..
Belgian Fries, [s]Mayo[/s] [b]curry ketchup[/b]
FTFY.
What about the Welsh method of cheese and chips? It's certainly interesting
I used to have that on Mondays and Fridays when I was given money to eat in the canteen. (aged 11)
Aioli FFS ❗Garlic Mayo
and it's used on continental fish dishes that don't have chips.
Perhaps a special sub-clause for April in Belgium.
I thought the Welsh method was only used for Saturday lunch-time with hair of the dog (assuming the hair was a beer hair).
Isn't it the law that chips and cheese has to be accompanied by donner meat
In which case we need to get some chilli sauce involved
i read the thread title as 'vagina strokes' how disappointing.
Vincent: You know what they put on french fries in Holland instead of ketchup?
Jules: What?
Vincent: Mayonnaise.
Jules: Yuck!
Vincent: I seen 'em do it, man, they ****in' drown 'em in that shit.
It's an interesting topic, however I feel salt and vinegar pale into the background when trumped by northern chip shop gravy I wish it would become the norm inside the M25.
I know 🙁 chips n gravy, I miss it,
If I'm in holland it's Satay all the way mmmmmmsataymmmmmmmm....
Put cooked chips in a large bowl, splash them up with some picked onion vinegar, then sprinkle with smoked paprika, fresh ground black pepper and then salt. Toss the buggers about a bit to coat evenly then scoff noisily, avoiding sharing with drooling mrs. 🙂
Oh, garlic mayo or chicken gravy is also great as is ketchup
But salad cream is the devils work.avoid.
(not very) interesting fact. They have Heinz Salad Cream on the International Space Station.
salt then vinegar then salt again
and stick dirty battered sausage in it too
GlitterGary had it right, chips gravy and peas. Salt and vinegar in any order. I would add a can of Barrs dandelion and burdock, but it needs to be Barrs or you won't be able to sell it to me. My local chippy applies the salt and vinegar at the same time.
If it was down to me, I'd go vinegar, then salt to ensure that the salt sticks to the chips. However, my local chippy does the salt first, then the vinegar, which seems to work as they taste nice.
My old local chippy in Hemel used to do vinegar first, then salt, but I always used to empty a tub of mushy peas over the top to give them a bit of texture.
Either way, chips are food of the gods. Love 'em
I like soy sauce on chip shop chips.
Home made deep fried chips on their own - vinegar, salt, maybe a bit of ketchup or some grated cheese
Chippy chips - Salt then vinegar, it's how they do it in Yorkshire. Gravy is acceptable with a pudding, not with fish.
All other forms of "chips" are shit and don't deserve the name.
not enough vinegar till the chips are nearly floating 😉
add a can of Barrs dandelion and burdock, but it needs to be Barrs or you won't be able to sell it to me
Fentiman's D&B is nicer - not as sweet or bubblegummy as Barr's. More expensive though.
Salt first, vinegar to wash through.
The joy of a good curry sauce on chips, yum.
No Salt or Vinegar
HP Fruity Sauce for dipping
Very Greasy Chips
5 rounds of Bread/ Butter. Butter has to melt and stain your Tee Shirt.
On no account eat a chip if it is not surrounded by bread
Salt first, then Sarsons to wash through the "stack".Anything else borders on perversion.
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i can't believe i've just sat and read two pages of salt and vinegar or vinegar and salt.
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hungry now, salt then vinegar for what it's worth. mayo yes, ketchup no (what's the difference ketchup/tom sauce) or when in the netherlands that peanut sauce they have.
I tried the salt-first-then-vinegar method tonight and I was instantly sick and had explosive diarrhea, thus my point is proved, vinegar first, salt second!
Salt, then vinegar. Only child abusers and rapists and fixie riders would do it the other way round.
salt
then vinegar
then more salt + black pepper
then dunk into what chippies laughably call "Curry Sauce"
(unless of course inserting into chip butty when lashings of Ketchup need to be applied).
slainte 😀 rob
salt first, then the vinegar.
There's a local chippy/kebab shop that if you just say "chips please" they go "you want pitta and cheese with that?" like it's normal! Then you go "ahh what the hell, go on.." and the mayo and ketchup is a free squeezey, so it can get a bit messy.
Noooooooo! I NEEEEEEEEEEED chips now.
I hadn't realised it was so complicated. I'm glad I don't like vinegar, it's much easier when you only have to decide whether it's salt first then chips, or chips first then salt.
Been said before, but.......
Salt, vinegar, salt - anything else is for losers.
Any bacon based snack has to be adorned with HP.
The end!
you don't dip pork scratchings in Hp ya freak. oh, you'll be saying pork scratchings aren't a "bacon based snack" next won't ya? I've got your number...
Only one person so far has mentioned salt and sauce, the choice of kings. Chippy sauce is exclusively an Edinburgh thing (I believe) and trounces any other condiment choice. I personally dislike brown sauce, but once diluted with vinegar it's a recipe for success.
The only quantity to use is "plenty".
I said bacon, not pig freak boy. Scratchings need no condiment, but would still be good doused in HP.....
Cheesy chips and gravy? the dirty northern basxxxds
Pork Scratchings are a Bacon based Snack are they not? admit that Pork scratchings are a bacon based snack! or retract your unfounded pig freak boy statement.
ohh.. I'm going to bed.....
I didn't call you a pig freak boy, just a freak boy - read it again.
I see you edited your post too - scratchings as exquisite as they may be are pig based, not bacon. Same animal, different delicacy.....
I'll accept freak boy 🙂 I've thought about it, and pork scratchings don't actually contain any muscle fibre, just loads of fat and skin and hair. I would be seriously miffed if I got some bacon that had no muscle fibre in it. So ok, you've won this one. they're genuine pork, as they're not cured prior to roasting! But I still reckon most people would agree that pork scratchings are a "bacon based snack" despite the bloody "facts".
Has anyone mentioned chip spice yet. I've only ever seen it in Hull, but it's in pretty much every chippy there.
