Viewranger replacement? Outdoor Active?

but I assume this means all my previously owned mapping should now be on OA

In theory yes. It won't be "your" maps. If you had some UK os maps then you'll now have access to all the uk in 25k and 50k. Similar for other countries. There is still some confusion over the ability to download maps for offline use but it sounds promising.

I attempted to move my routes and maps into OS Maps but it didn't seem very user friendly, and I managed to easily transfer all my walking routes and my OS map from ViewRanger into Outdoor Active and have just returned from walking a previously unwalked route, following the GPS on the Outdoor Active on my (Android) phone. I'm amazed I didn't get lost! The 'dot' thing showing my location on the App is SO small I could hardly see it; it moves spasmodically, doesn't show a directional arrow and the voice is forever saying "You are not on the route" followed immediately by "You are on the route". Is anything I can do to change this? A different voice? A larger dot? ViewRanger suited me perfectly - not at all sure I'll be able to used this third rate, half cocked app! All help appreciated including views on better apps which allow route planning and decent GPS whilst exploring routes, and the ability to create and keep a large number of routes.

Assuming your phone is a decent modern device with accurate GPS and a good view of the sky and reasonable samply rate, you shouldn't be have the random movement of your position. Recalibrate your compass.

A) turn off the voice assistant.

B) the dot on mine is about 3mm wide, much the same as VR, how big is [s] yours [/s] your dot?

There is still some confusion over the ability to download maps for offline use but it sounds promising.

My sample sub should be up today I think. I'll feed back on this tomorrow (assuming it is)

Thanks very much for responding. My phone is a Moto G6 Play which apparently doesn't support a compass.
Can you please provide some details as to how I turn off voice assistant?
My dot is also around 3mm and varies between a pale grey (which merges into the background) and a pale blue - equally difficult to identify on a map with other blue & grey items - viewpoints, parking, lakes, streams, campsites and sea.

Ok the grey/blue fading is down to the GPS, blue is a fix, grey is approximate. If you can see it transition anything other than quickly grey to blue after you start your gps, that's "bad". Probably your phone is killing the GPS when the screen goes off that or it doesn't like the lead mesh lined* pocket you're keeping it in. The solution might be a dig in your phone settings,I don't think it's likely to be in app.

From Here (my bold)

The speech output that has been included for navigation means your smartphone can remain in your pocket throughout the duration of the route and is available for all live system languages.

Useful tips:

The language used in the app (and therefore also in the Navigation function) depends on the language setting of your device
Please ensure you set the media volume of your device accordingly to get the best out of Navigation’s speech output

You can deactivate the speech output by selecting the 'mute' icon at the top of the screen.

Android: If speech output does not appear to be working, please check your device's settings. Select "System/General management" → "Language and input" → "Speech" → "Text-to-speech". Default settings may vary depending on the device you have. You can press "Play" at the bottom of the screen to check whether the speech output works in general. You can also change the "Preferred Engine" if necessary. Under "Language" you will most likely want to "Use system language".

*All seriousness it's not in some silly rfid/NFC proof case of the like is it?

(a quick Google of GPS on the g6 returns a number of discussions about it becoming inaccurate after an android update and a high accuracy mode. I don't know any of the sources so I won't repost but you should be able to Google and make up your own mind)

So my sub has lapsed this morning and I can confirm there is no offline functionality. I can't download maps nor routes (including one's I've previously saved or uploaded) as a non pro member.

The os layer does however work fine on both 1:25 and 1:50k online, routes can be viewed on that layer fine and it'll let me launch nav.

I can create a new route of my own and import fine.

It does appear my previously saved maps are all there though in so much as I can zoom to areas I've saved for offline use whilst I had my pro membership.

My phone is in a plain leather case - not metal and viewranger GPS worked very well.

Transferring all my routes into Outdoor Active was simple..............and my one experience with OS Maps wasn't successful at all. Has anyone successfully moved all their routes over to OS Maps in one smooth operation? I'd really like to trial OS Maps before making a decision.

Despite remaining thoroughly chewed off with the whole situation, and actively investigating the alternatives (bought a year's OS Maps subscription when it was on offer, but so far not very impressed), I've realised I've got nothing to lose by playing along and seeing what use I can get from Outdooractive. Since all my data's been transferred from Viewranger (556 tracks and 338 routes going back to 2013), it might at least make a convenient place to store that data, since transferring it somewhere else would be a nightmare (though I do have all the tracks backed up as GPXs).

So I reluctantly signed the waiver, since realistically I'm not going to take anyone to court over some maps. I can't even see the option for OS maps in the route planner. Are they only available in the app?

I sent a support request about the above, and had a little (polite) dig about Viewranger being killed off, and, to their credit, they replied very quickly and thoroughly. They've given me another year of Pro+ (I think I might have already had a free year from when they announced the switch over a year ago, but never used it) which means I can access the OS maps, but I'll still be able to use them afterwards:

In Outdooractive we only offer whole countries, no tiles or pre-named areas. You have the whole OS GB, Slovenia, LINZ New Zealand and Kompass maps permanently free in Outdooractive.

I've also added another year of free Pro+. Once that expires you'll retain the maps above permanently free at all scales under the legacy agreement.

I'm not going to be placated with freebies, I'd much rather they just continued supporting Viewranger, or, since they're not going to do that, worked to add all the good things a out VR into OA. Perhaps they're also keen to improve relations with disgruntled VR users. Maybe there's hope.

Is there a way to stop the map rotating on OA so that North is always up?

I still don't know what to do or what I've really got.

My existing VR sub is

Subscription name Valid from Valid to Trial Period Will Auto Renew
PREMIUM Subscription 18 Sep 2018 Lifetime Subscription No No

This comes from way back, long before 2018, more like back in old Nokia days as I bought something that gave me the app for life on any phone I installed it on. Not sure it gave me much more. OS maps are pretty low scale. Road map basic really.

Main thing that's important to me is Open Cycle/Street Map at the current detail I get. I depend on it a fair bit to check where I am and what's about with good detail.

Is there a way to stop the map rotating on OA so that North is always up?

I don't think so. It was an option in VR. Write to them and ask. The app is still in development so hopefully if enough people request it then it could get added. Google maps is the same. Who on earth wants to rotate a map like that anyway?

They’ve given me another year of Pro+ (I think I might have already had a free year from when they announced the switch over a year ago, but never used it) which means I can access the OS maps, but I’ll still be able to use them afterwards:

Its worth asking them but aiui you'll have lifetime access to os maps. The pro+ let's you also download for offline use. When I queried this as I had lifetime offline previously they said after a year if I message them they reinstate the pro+. That's a bit of a faff but a reasonable compromise if it works like that. It is relying on their goodwill but they've been decent to deal with in the past

I got the email a couple of weeks ago, didn't know anything about VR closing until then (appreciate from this thread it was flagged earlier but obviously missed it.) Pretty hacked off given the money I ploughed into it buying tiles for OS areas of interest..

Anyway, tried following the link to transfer tacks, POIs etc to Outdoor Active, but keep getting this error:

We have found some suspicious activity in this client's account and this link had been blocked for your safety.

We apologise for any inconvenience caused.
If you think the link is safe, please contact the sender of the email.

Anybody else get this? tried different networks, devices, browsers, VPN... all the same.

Are you sure it's genuine and not phishing? I'd contact them directly through the website

Is there a way to stop the map rotating on OA so that North is always up?

Press the button that centres the map on your current location again. There appear to be two modes, cross hair which maintains North up, or bishops hat which spins the map until you're sick.

Generally I've found the OA app to be okay so far, but I'll still use Viewranger until the day it dies as my own form of protest.

I made a support request about not being able to download the OS map areas that I had under ViewRanger without a Pro subscription and they replied quickly and have enabled offline mapping for those maps without a sub for my account. So do get in contact with them.

Press the button that centres the map on your current location again. There appear to be two modes, cross hair which maintains North up, or bishops hat which spins the map until you’re sick

Not quite. Cross hair is manual spinning, the triangle is auto spinning, but both still spin.

I made a support request about not being able to download the OS map areas that I had under ViewRanger without a Pro subscription and they replied quickly and have enabled offline mapping for those maps without a sub for my account. So do get in contact with them.

Good shout. Just replied to the response to previous support request, and got an almost instant reply confirming they would still be available offline. Didn't seem to need any changes - maybe they've changed their policy, but if anyone's in the same position, probably worth confirming anyway.

Not quite. Cross hair is manual spinning, the triangle is auto spinning, but both still spin.

So it does. Although if you press it again it does put it back straight again. There needs to be another mode.
Or maybe I'll just try to get used to it. The auto orienting mode might be useful when I'm somewhere I don't know. It just makes maps you are already familiar with really confusing.

Is there a way to stop the map rotating on OA so that North is always up?

I asked the question and got the following answer:

Hi Kenny

So the short answer is you can't, but the the slightly longer answer goes like this:

There's the pinch gesture, which is what everybody uses to zoom in and out.

And, if you happen to turn your fingers a bit while you are pinching, then the map will rotate.  If you meant to do that great, if not then it's a pain.

But there is another gesture which you can use to zoom in or out without any rotation.  This also works in Apple maps etc.

What you do is: you double-tap: "tap-tap", and on the second tap you keep your finger held down, then you can slide your finger up, or down to zoom in or out without rotating. Lift finger off to finish the zoom.

Hope that helps a bit,

Cheers,

Dominic

So long, and thanks for all the fish.. I guess that answers that question then.

A sad day 😥

But I'm more hopeful than I was. I've tried Outdooractive for a few rides and runs recently, and I while it's clearly lacking some of VR's attractions, I like it more than any of the other alternatives I've looked at - OS Maps was so unstable on one of my devices that I asked for (and received, albeit as a credit note) a refund for my 3-week-old year's subscription. It might be that some of OAs features seem quite familiar from VR, and hopefully that will increase.

As former VR users with lifetime maps, we seem to have a fairly good deal too - permanent access to 50k and 25k, including offline, for the whole of the UK, with no need to continue with a pro subscription after the free year.

I tried to extend the olive branch further by offering to take part more formally in feedback/feature requests/beta testing - they said they don't have any sort of plan for this, but are happy to accept feedback via support (which is impressively responsive - quick and clearly human, rather than stock response). I intend to keep sending feedback and requests as I go and would encourage others to do the same. The "north up" mode above being a good example: hopefully if enough people ask for it, they'll prioritise it.

Thanks for passing on the tip about zooming @fruitbat. Another feature I'll be requesting is permanent zoom in/out buttons - pinching is all very well when planning a route at home, a different matter with gloves on!

we seem to have a fairly good deal too – permanent access to 50k and 25k, including offline, for the whole of the UK, with no need to continue with a pro subscription after the free year.

I messaged Sarah at OA about how disappointing it was to see VR go & asked how long I’d be able to access 50 & 25000 maps. Great news as there’s no time limit!
I don’t need buddy beacons, ski hut locations & lord knows what else, all I need are maps that’ll tell me where I am.
How it’ll cope when I’m in the middle of nowhere may be a different matter! 🧐

Yep sad, it's been a great app. So far been trying out OA and OS as alternatives - feeling a lot more positive about OA after a couple months side by side with OS. It seems to offer a few nice features (eg quick and intuitive snap-to route planning) and generally not that annoying. OS (Android) is baws - glitchy, lacks functions and poor route planner. Waste of £20.

@tomd As above, my experience with OS Maps was the same. Emailed to explain the problem and ask for a refund and they suggested a fix, but also sent me a refund (well, a credit note). Don't stand for a poor quality product you've paid for.

Double fail - OS and OA. Out the other day and trying to decide which way to ride a path. OA defaulted to some open source map, presumably one it could download to my phone with a crap signal? I'd bought the local 'tile' when VR was active and never had a problem.
The OS app would not even open! This was for a map I'd purchased and used the scratch and sniff panel to redeem.

So have used viewranger lots when out and about. Primarily used the OSM maps, but specifically the cycling one. Doesn't seem to be a way to get the cycling OSM layer in Outdooractive, without going pro. Am I missing something?

Re. the rotate while zooming issue. I found that if you poke the compass icon at top left - it changes from a white disc with grey outline and small black pointer to a plain white circle. When in plain white circle mode the map doesn't rotate (North at top) while pinch zooming.

If the map is left untouched for a period the grey outline returns as does rotation while pinching. Weird!

Asked the same question about OSM cycle maps earlier and got this reply from their tech help
Open Cycle Maps are an activity overlay in ODA.
https://www.outdooractive.com/en/k/the-cycling-trail-network/37514035/
On the map screen click the layers button then OpenStreetMap, on the same screen, scroll down to "Ways and Activities" and click "Cycling".
Bit of a faff to select (a common theme with OutdoorActive) but does work for me.

@fruitbat Mine seems to work differently - different versions? I couldn't see what you meant about the grey outline at first, and all I got from tapping the compass icon was a full-screen compass. But now I see that if I pinch-and-rotate, I get the grey outline with the arrow indicating north, and if I tap that, it resets to north, and the the grey outline disappears. It doesn't stop me from rotating the map while pinch zoomming though.

Thanks @excalibur, I find the OCM more useful than OSM for obvious reasons, and thought it had disappeared.

Thanks @excalibur just looked at it but I can only open outdoor active maps if I have a pro account

Yeah, I don't really know what you get with/without subscription. This thread was about ViewRanger users being forced to adopt OutdoorActive and as such, users including myself, got some sort of benefits by signing in with ViewRanger credentials. Does any of this apply to you?

@jeffl that's pants ☹

How do I get offline maps?

I had purchased a lot of 1:25,000 tiles for ViewRanger, so losing them would be very irritating. But I'd by no means paid for the whole of the UK. If we do gain permanent offline access to the full UK maps at two scales without paying, then I daresay this is actually a very good deal.

I've migrated my account to OA. I've agreed to the Legacy Agreement and the (online) OS Maps have now appeared, but I don't appear to be able to download them (iPhone app).
I can see that, as a ViewRanger user, I can get a 'gift' of 3 months Pro+. I haven't accepted this yet.

Do I have to email support or is there an 'in-app' way to activate the download function? Is it somehow linked to the Pro+ subscription?

@Superficial that seems to be the deal. It seems they don't have any mechanism for allowing you access to a certain area, so they only way to give you'd what you'd bought is to give you everything.

I couldn't work out whether it was something that needed them to activate or not, but it's worth contacting them, they're pretty responsive and seem to be treating VR users generously to try and keep us on board - they just gave me a year of free Pro and confirmed they would be available offline permanently.

it’s worth contacting them, they’re pretty responsive and seem to be treating VR users generously to try and keep us on board

Indeed. I *think* it's something they have to activate at their end - I could view maps online but it wasn't until I emailed customer support that I was able to download anything (before that, the app prompted me to buy a Pro subscription).

They've answered all my emails today within 10 mins or so, with the exception of my last sticky question which I guess they don't want to be pinned down on:

OA: You can download VR legacy maps without a subscription.

<Radio silence>

Tried OA today in a no signal area - cue much swearing as I couldn't get it to use the offline map that I thought I had previously downloaded.

It seems that downloads are deleted when you log out of the app. So you can't use OA unless you plan ahead and make sure your downloads are present before entering a no signal area.

Does the same happen with the OS app?

I stumbled across that "lose your downloads" statement by accident while trawling through the OA website whilst pondering the loss of VR. I can access my VR lifetime maps ok online but the fun begins when you download some tiles (a time consuming process and a real pain for me as I like to have the whole of Scotlandshire accessible - I just love pouring over maps), if you log out of the app you're stuffed, it's tile roulette when you open the app to access your downloaded tiles - some randomly don't load for about half an hour, the black screen that appears far too frequently on opening the app and takes about 90 seconds to clear - an age when you are out in the field, overall just a buggy piece of crap. I really tried hard to get on with it but gave up. All I want is quick, reliable access to a map (not bothered about route planning or any of the other fancy stuff - I'm a dyed in the wool old codger), ended up investing in Memory Map and perfectly happy now - apart from the additional cost but my VR maps needed updating anyway.

I think OA is about to be dumped by me! I'll have a look at MM and OS I'm like murdooverthehiill and just need reliable access to maps and am not too bothered with route planning and fancy stuff.

Moved to OA under duress this evening.
Useless.

Tried to plot a route across a local hill for Mrs SC and it wouldn't do it. Routes back to the village and up again - when all I wanted is 100m across a hillside. Pah!

Do I understand correctly that there is no way to download all of the UK maps for offline usage? I think you can only download 50km squares, which totally sucks. The beauty of Viewranger was that once you have downloaded all the maps, you don't have to worry about network coverage.

Once you have to selectively preload maps, it doesn't give the confidence that the maps will always be there when you need them.

Yep. The offline maps was the best feature of viewranger and as far as I can tell no other app does this. The download on outdoor active falls a long way short.

You can download entire maps with MM and it also gives the choice to use SD card if you wish.

Had a look at OS and read this "
<div id="savelost" class="cms_faqquestion cms_faqactive">"Why have I lost my downloaded maps?</div>
<div class="cms_faqanswer">

The most common reason for this is because you have logged out. As all downloads are linked to your OS Maps user account, they will be deleted if you choose to log out".

That sounds the same as the OA statement.

</div>
I've taken the plunge and opened a MM account.

I have just downloaded OsmAnd.

It actually looks OK. Will keep this on my phone and will use it to test it. Have also deleted OutdoorActive.

Neither OS Maps nor Outdooractive can be trusted to actually work in the hills.

Had problems with OS before not showing any map despite having downloaded it offline. Had the same today with Outdooractive.

With ViewRanger I'd happily go out on shorter rides with just a hip pack and no paper map. Highly recommend not doing that with these two apps.

@StirlingCrispin in OA it defaults to snap to route planning. When you enter the route plan mode there is a little magnet icon to toggle it on and off with one touch.

I only know this because I was trying to plan a canoe trip and getting very frustrated. It's actually quite a smart design once you get used to it as you can flip between the snap to and bee line really quickly while doing A single route.

At the weekend I plotted a route on my phone with OA, whilst waiting for the rest of the family to arrive. No problem doing this on the phone with a poor mobile connection.
We all jumped in the Van and navigated to the start point using google maps - which lost the connection due to no signal in the valley and so I was expecting the OA route I'd plotted to be useless, but (much to my surprise) it worked flawlessly. Full OS mapping all the way to the top of Pen Y Fan.
Was this because I plotted the route with a decent phone signal and it cached it on my phone? I don't think I closed down the OA app as such, but we used my phone to navigate to the car park starting point (on Google maps).
Who knows, but I'll give it another chance.

I have just stumbled across this thread
I am also irritated by the demise of viewranger. Been using that for 10 years and had it all set up very nicely.

Main grumbles..
Although I started off buying a load of OS maps and I do have access to OS mapping in OA (probably temporarily) in recent years I had been using Open cycle Map much more due to the increased detail and number of paths. This is not an option on OA. There is an Open Street Map overlay but it does not have anywhere near as much detail. Second biggest irritation is that viewranger used to show you elevation in the top right corner as you scrolled around the map. I used to use that feature loads when planning routes and when out in the mountains (e.g. have I got enough daylight to climb over that peak..?).

there are other grumbles (inconvenient offline mapping etc) - enough for me to ditch OA.

Does anyone know of a mapping app that has open cycle Map and shows altitude in real time ?

If you select open street map from the map options you can then scroll down and add cycling or MTB as an activity. Not sure if this is exactly the same as open cycle map but looks about the same to me.

I’m also very frustrated with outdoor active.
Driving me mad - all I want is to see an is map online and show me where I am on it when offline.
On view ranger I had all of Wales at 50,000 and my most ridden areas at 25,000 It was great.

Is there any app that does this when offline
More than happy to pay. - would save me hours getting lost when exploring

So today I went to use ViewRanger for the first time in months and it wasn’t working grr. I loved ViewRanger and had a lot of money invested in it.

Anyway I’ve downloaded trail boss, free, downloadable (unfortunately OS maps not available) and I’ve got to say it’s really good, better for our uses than ViewRanger, plotting a route is easy, downloading map tiles is really easy. I haven’t tried the route guidance yet, but this Canadian app is looking really impressive so far.

I have finally got the os maps to work offline
There is a setting to save to device and not to cloud which lets you download chunks of the os 25k
Not as good as viewranger but works ok
North Wales is about 12 chunks for example
Found outdoor active to be crap for all the reasons stated above

Installed an older ViewRanger version and disabled auto-updates. Went out into the hills two days later, app had updated regardless and all I had was the "we've switched it off" screen.

What I miss the most is having the whole UK 1:50k just on my phone already, so there's no need to remember to load a map for wherever I go. All the apps I'm aware of now only let you download offline maps one screenful at a time. Outdooractive is better than OS on this front because it actually shows you the already-downloaded areas so you can line up the next square to download.

Damn these companies.

Seem to have lost all OS access to areas previously downloaded and have nothing to show for my spending on Viewranger over the years.

That's the final confirmation I'll need to go elsewhere. Either Memory Map or OS maps.

Viewranger was good whilst it lasted.

Seem to have lost all OS access to areas previously downloaded and have nothing to show for my spending on Viewranger over the years.

If you had lifetime maps then you can access the same type of map through outdoor active. I've got the whole of the UK in 25k and 50k OS which is more than I had with viewranger. The app is not as good so its a compromise but the extra map access is handy.

If you had lifetime maps then you can access the same type of map through outdoor active

Seems to have vanished on my app.....

Friends plotted a route through many of the peaslake trails, on plotaroute and send me the GPX

Komoot got horribly confused in some places where the route crossed over itself, and ended up routing the wrong way up so e trails

OA got it spot on. So I'm slightly reluctantly keeping it to use in some circumstances

Seems to have vanished on my app….

Contact support. They are pretty quick to get back to you, so that's a plus for OA.

I've been using OA since the demise of VR and whilst it is not as good as VR, I do like:

1. The voice turn by turn option. Works well and no need to have a phone accessible. I've yet to try it in an area with a poor/no phone signal though. I'm hoping it loads the whole route to the phone once started?

2. Zooms easily to both OS map scales.

3. Route plotting seems to have improved, but sometimes it will not re-route when you've made a mistake.

4. Whole of UK and France is a massive bonus.

Potential PSA

I can't say if this still works because it's some time since I did it, but I'd like to link you to another post. It may be of interest to some of you.

viewranger-ressurection-android

p.s. This is still working for me. I've additionally made good use of an old phone by setting it up this way as a stand alone VR gps device - now without SIM card, & wifi off (just to be sure)

PSA for anyone else that got kicked over onto outdoor active.

As well as the 25k and 50k os maps the subscription let's you easily switch between os and Harveys maps layers.

I didn't know it had this. Love a Harveys map, the paths often seem better marked than 25k OS and scale is more mtb friendly.

I've used it a fair bit now - the offline maps seems to work really well and you can download very large areas. Route tracking is a bit weird but other than that it seems fine.

Former Viewranger lifetime map owner here. Been using Outdoor Active since VR packed in.

Had an email today saying my Pro+ subscription has expired. Anyone else had this?

My understanding was that OA had agreed to provide indefinite access for lifetime VR owners but that doesn't seem to be the case.

If the reduced access doesn't provide offline access to maps then that's going to be a major problem.

@mrb123

My understanding was that OA had agreed to provide indefinite access for lifetime VR owners but that doesn’t seem to be the case.

Yep, thought that was the case as well. Not had an email yet though. I always suspected it was a bit too good to be true tbh.

On the other hand, and despite mine (and others) scepticism I'm a total convert. I'd actually pay the subscription if I had to. Loads better than OS and the utter garbage that is Komoot. I don't use Starva (more garbage) or Garmin, but it looks like OA will link to these?

Got to love the off road voice guidance and the nasal mildly American assistant. 'The route is 50 metres to your right . . . You have left the route. . . You are back on the route'.

My understanding was that OA had agreed to provide indefinite access for lifetime VR owners but that doesn’t seem to be the case.

My take was that you had lifetime access to OS Maps but saving them offline was a Pro (not Pro+) feature.

My Pro subscription runs out next month and is shown as renewing at €14.99, which is better than the listed price. I'm OK with £12pa to retain that to be honest.

The original, auto generated message I had said I would automatically have a year of Pro+. When I queried it I got this response: "The OS GB is permanent. For offline access, if you don't take Pro after the yera, just get us to add it." (sic)

If my sub ends I'll be pinging them an email. Not sure if this is universal for lifetime map owners or I'm special.

My understanding was as nickjb's: that you got a year of free Pro+ which gives you access to everything (probably as an easy way to give us access to OS maps/bit of goodwill) but after that it's the minimum to match what we had under VR which they'll probably have to sort separately. I thought they said to me it would be automatic, but apparently not.

I've been using OA, and while there are a lot of things that annoy me, it's stil the best alternative. Annoyingly, I might be tempted by the Pro+ for the Harvey's maps, though that was mainly useful for Wainwright bagging (because they're indicated) and I've done them all now, but they are good maps.

If it was 15€ that would be a bit of a no brainer though.

Response from OA below. Seems to have done the trick for me anyway and restored my OS maps.

Hi,

Though the free year of Pro+ has ended, you retain the whole of GB, IGN France, CNIG Spain, Kompass. Canvec and some Italian maps permanently free under the legacy agreement.

To make sure you are ready to use them:

Use the App / Play Store; find Outdooractive; if there's an update install it. If the app is running, close it and restart it.In the app, ​use My Page bottom right of the app, scroll down, Sync, so the app picks up any changes.

On any map screen use the map layers button, the stack of squares to the right. Choose OS or whichever with the black and white folded map icons. Zoom in and you'll see the maps.

 Seems to have done the trick for me anyway and restored my OS maps.

Do you still have offline access?

Hmm, not sure that I do...

OA say sections can be saved for offline use as before.

My OS Maps subscription is up for renewal at £24.  (iphone)

Is there anything better out there yet? I have no real issues with it, other than off line maps dont appear to work very well, and it can take an age for an OS Map to appear.

Thanks

Still happy with memory-map subscription since VR died. Just renewed again actually.

Offline mapping is great, just save whole of Scotland in 1:25k and 1:50k so no issues when signal is dodgy.

Pretty quick with OS updates too.

as above

If anyone is a Strava subscriber you should get Fatmap included (well, I do)

Offline mapping plus all the other features such as "avalanche terrain" and 3d maps.

Obvs you wouldnt subscribe "just' for the maps, just posting in case someone did and missed it.