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My wife got in from a night out with friends and is far, far drunker than I've seen her in 11 years. She can call me by my pet name and 'Mike' when really pressed ie. Water flicked in her face but little else. Breathing and pulse seem normal.
I suspect that she's had her drink spiked. I know nothing 'bad' happened to her whilst out but friends said she got significantly more intoxicated on the 20 minute taxi ride home.
We live in Thailand, in case it makes a difference t the answers.
Hospital or not?
Put in recovery position, keep an eye on breathing.. All I can suggest really.
History of mental health issues or significant drug use?
Likelihood of drink being spiked?
Can you trust her mates?
Make your decision to seek further attention based on what you know not a bunch of guys on a different continent who don't know you. Gut instinct FTW
She won't thank you, but sounds like a decent stomach pump is in order
Thanks Matty. She is. If regular breathing and heart rate, is there any point in going to hospital?
Trust her mates 100%.
Chance of drink being spiked - high, based on her appearance / reactions / the fact she can drink 99% of people under the table.
No mental issues and she'd have told me if she'd taken drugs knowingly.
Gut instinct says she'll be fine but having spent years working in nightclubs, my main instinct is to dump water on her from the ice bucket and cash up the tills 😉 perhaps Desensitivised.
In the UK I'd go with what mattyfez said. In Thailand I'd be inclined to call a doctor. if she's just 'tired and emotional' then you'll miss out on the 'I got called out the other day for someone who was drunk' stories. If she's been poisoned you'll feel better.
Can you contact any of her friends to see whether her level of intoxication is consistent with what she's drunk?
Put in recovery position, keep an eye on breathing..
This, but, there's an argument that if you're sufficiently worried to ask then you might want to err on the side of caution.
Expect to be in the doghouse for a fortnight regardless of your decision. (-:
We live in Thailand, in case it makes a difference t the answers.
In the UK I'd suggest calling NHS Direct or whatever they're called this week. And I expect they'd say "call an ambulance."
Chance of drink being spiked - high
Also, consider this.
If her condition does deteriorate, how quickly can you get help?
Friends said she'd had "2 shots more" than they did. They were tipsy but nothing like this.
Think it's hospital time. 2am so cashing in a few favours for coming to look after our sleeping boys!
Fingers crossed.
Hope all turns out ok, but the right call if her pulse or breathing deteriorates in the slightest.. who knows what the emergency response time will be in Thailand..
I think you're doing the right thing. Good luck.
Can drive to hospital in 15 minutes, I'd say.
Hospital definitely the right choice for reasons I'll not mention here.
Even if it's only alcohol things can get worse very quickly. If there's other stuff involved that can compound any issues.
Why are you still here?
Hard moving unconscious people by yourself.. Hopefully she's light.
[quote=Cougar ]Why are you still here?
Waiting for childminder to arrive?
Guess he's waiting for baby sitters, as he mentioned kids..
Fingers crossed.
Fingers crossed for you chap
Presume things are too far gone for a sex ambush........?
Chance of drink being spiked - high
I'm off for a sit down in quiet room.
Errrrmmmm
Any update?
😯 crikey
Hope shes ok
I hope she's ok! I'm sure I got spiked once, back in the day, me and my friends had just left a club, waiting for others to come out before going home, a drunk girl handed me a bottle, as she'd had enough and I'm not one to turn down a free drink... I had to be carried home.. I was fine up until that point, and I was merry before, certainly not can't stand up or speak drunk.
Quite worrying, but I like to think the lass who gave me the drink dodged a bullet there!
I've been leaving my drink lying around in clubs for years and never been spiked once, I must be plug ugly.
Happened to me once, it is a truly horrid experience. Especially the night before a Final. Cheers mates, whoever it was. Never forgotten, never forgiven on this one. Deliberately screwing up other people is unforgivable.
Best wishes and loads of fry-ups and paracetamol. Plus loads of orange juice.
But play it safe.
I think if you can tell the difference between "drunk" and "not quite right regardless of the amount she's had to drink", knowing the person, then medical attention is in order. She may have been wrongly targetted,or unlucky, but seriously even as a male, I can tell you that a spiked drink really screws up a girl in a way being just "drunk" doesn't do.
One friend of a friend (admittedly its tenuous, I've not met her) was raped after a spiked drink, and it's really messed with her mind since.
Yep me to about 10 or 15 times horrid experienced. Every time ive had a big night or was knackered with a big night, got spiked with the fresh air!!!
Thats not me Frankenstein, I'm just a bit like him 🙂
Nah it's not fresh air! I've hit it hard many a time and although there is the fresh air factor, it's different, like mild anesthesia.. It's no joke and it does happen.
Might just be cheap shit knock off spirits too tbf.
hospitals maybe the safest safest option, but id say if she made it home, her breathing and pulse is normal, id be tempted to just leave her in recovery position and keep checking on her. youre in for a sleepless night whichever you choose, so id probably just make sure shes keeps breathing, doesnt choke on sick etc, rather than spend the night at hospital.
then make up whatever story you want in the morning about what she did whilst out of it 8)
Thanks for the concern everyone.
She's fine now. No blood or pee taken for tests so guess we'll never know if her drink was tampered with. Like I said, she wasn't taken advantage of and certainly wasn't any of our friends who did anything so nothing more to do really.
Gut feeling is it wasn't booze though.
Thank goodness she is ok. An old flat mate of mine had her drink spiked while out for a night in London. She went outside and suddenly lost all feeling in her legs before she lost conciousness. Luckily someone saw it happen and called an ambulance. She thinks it was probably the date rape drug that seemed to be used often at the time as it was only her first drink of the evening.
She's fine now.
Good. We found a bloke outside our flat once in a similar state. Swearing and gibbering in unintelligible French. Unresponsive except for that. Called the ambulance. Apparently drink and drugs involved. We found out from the police the following day that he'd had a turn for the worse in the ambulance and was in intensive care after having some sort of stroke/heart attack.
Very glad to hear that makecoldplayhistory!
If you think the drink was spiked it probably was. Mrs Danny had a similar experience. I can't say 100% someone dumped something in her drink but whilst she had had a few certainly no more than usual and I found her passed out in the toilet.
Brought her round and she said she felt really weird and was acting it too. Never seen her like that before and I know what she's like when she's just really pissed.
Scared her badly and luckily I was with her. Don't like to think what would have happened if I wasn't.
Glad she's ok.
Pleased to hear she's fine. Now have yourself some quality respite/shed-time/ride-time. Maybe not a night on the lash though... 😉
Glad to hear she's Ok.
Alcohol however does cause all those issues others have described, yes even those who "normally are Ok and hasn't had that much". Spiking may happen but it's not as common as people think.
OP you do understand that the Thai "festival" of Songktan now on involves getting absolutely paralytic ? If your wife has been out on that she will have drunk and drunk and probably hard liquor too. A friend of mine said there has alreay been 250 road fatalities this year due to all the drink driving
Glad she seems to be fine now
It's very easy to lay on your back in your sleep and chuckup, or attempt to and die if your paralytic. The Police get called to these. Very sad when it's a bloke who lives alone/is a alcoholic 🙁
As a rule of thumb if my other half days she feels sick and actually starts being sick we are 'ok'. If she was Plastered and quiet, just wanted to sleep I'd stay awake all night. Basically what is she normally like in this situation. If it's out of character- I wouldn't hesitate to focus on and go OTT.
Don't live with regrets
Spot in Hora. If it doesn't look right or feel right then it's likely to not be right.
Glad she's ok OP.
My sister fit spiked once. Either that or she willingly necked some pills. She wouldn't shut up, stay still or stop gurning....
People do, occasionally, take one-off and strange reactions to alcohol. I'm afraid the whole "my drink was spiked" thing has become a bit of a cop-out for some folk.
Doesn't stop you being concerned for them. As pointed out above alcohol on its own can kill.
Just glad she's ok.
She wouldn't shut up, stay still or stop gurning....
Just like alcohol then?
She had shots of what?
Drink spiking seems unlikely. What is likely is that they've given her alcohol that wasn't legit. IE, fake alcohol. They often sell fake spirits, made with methanol. Usually given to someone when they're already drunk, usually in cocktails where the flavour is masked by other things.
Get to the docs and get checked out. Now.
http://www.bangkoknightlife.com/bangkok-bar-fly1/fake-booze-can-really-tell/
Ahh... she all good.... phew.
It could have been booze, like I said, but she was a different drunk to anything I've ever seen from her before. Hard to explain but just not herself. No gurning or otherwise obvious signs of another drug although, whilst I've worked as a bar manager and 'experimented' with stuff at uni, none of it would have been the kind of stuff you'd spike a drink with so not too sure as to what the effects of them are.
It may well have been bad drink ie. methanol. That certainly happens here.
Yep, Songkran's in full flow and if she'd come back that plastered I'd have been annoyed but sat up with her and not posted here. There was just something off.
She's been in bed all day and was quite frightened and upset due to the absolute blackout in her memory. That's never happened to her before. Friends said she went from 'mildly tipsy' but dancing and having a good time in the last bar to falling off the taxi seat into the footwell 10 minutes later. She'd only had a single bottle of beer in the 30 minutes before leaving for the taxi.
Could have been any number of things. Happily nothing more than a bruised knee.
She needs to make cold beer history.
Definitely sounds like a drink spike, as I said earlier, I can drink with the best of them, and my experience was unlike any other alcohol related escapade.. If you know her well and know what she's like when she's had far too many, then you just know.. It's not like being drunk at all, more like being gassed at the dentist.
I had four dodgy pints last night 8)
If you think the drink was spiked it probably was.
It probably wasn't.
Spiking may happen but it's not as common as people think.
Yup.
If a drink is spiked, the most common thing to spike it with is alcohol. Drink spiking, anywhere in the world, is rare.
Definitely sounds like a drink spike, as I said earlier,
Definitely sounds like she was drunk.
Just deducting from what the OP said, he's been around a bit, as have I, and apparently his Mrs can hold her drink.. On balance, that's my opinion, and yours is yours.
Thailand is probably rather different, but in the UK we had a real vogue for people coming in and saying they'd been spiked when they really hadn't. They'd just not counted one or two drinks, or eaten less, or been tired to start with.then mysteriously it seemed to stop happening a year or so back.
So in the UK I'd be agreeing with Drac and his wider professional experience.
+1 for unlikely to have been spiked, though the hooky booze theory does seem credible
The only people I know who've been spiked also happened to have to explain their hospitalisation to concerned parents. Which is an interesting co-incidence, eh?
Hope she's recovered now anyway.
+1 for unlikely to have been spiked, though the hooky booze theory does seem credible
There've been reports in the UK media about increasing incidents of hooky booze, particularly vodka, which is pretty taste and odourless, so fairly easy to get away with it, so that's a credible answer in this case.
It's possible hookie booze in Thailand but that is a relevant new thing here, claims of being spiked ain't and incidents like this happened before people jumped on the spiked band wagon. People forget how much they've had, time scales get forgotten. You here several versions of the history from their friends.
It can happen yes but it's very much more likely they're just rat arsed. We hear the old "they can handle their drink with the best of them" every time, it gets tedious.
I think drink spiking is a bit of an urban myth. I'm sure it happens occasionally but nowhere near as much as the media scare stories make out. They make it sound like there's a rapey fella with a bottle of rohypnol lurking in every bar. More than likely just dodgy booze, or just maybe... she had a few more than she said she did.
Is it just me or is Drac a bit of a bulging cock end when it comes to anything to do with medicine/drugs/alcohol etc?
Seems to me he just has to have his big mouth heard.
Classy!
It's just you I think. Emergency responder medical professionals tend to have a better handle on such things than your average whiny Internet cockbag, but I can see how it might appear to the rest of us ignoramuses as arrogance.
Perhaps but if you actually read his opinions then I think I am pretty much on the mark.
I'm sure you do. That's the thing with opinions, really.
I agree. This is my opinion.
It's just you. Maybe, of course, you actually have more experience of the matter at hand that you'd like to share with us?
FFS. Let actual people who deal with this day in and day out have an actual say, especially when they run the flipping site you are posting on. Especially when you actually financially add diddily squat.
To put it another way,
Wah wah Moderator solidarity aside, I'd hold Drac's medical knowledge, experience and expertise higher than most other folks' I know on or off this forum (and my mother's a pharmacist). If he comes across the wrong way, well bollocks, he's earned the right to be so IHMO.
(Oh look, opinions again)
I don't doubt that there are people at work who think I'm a cocksure arrogant dickwad; but I've spent a quarter of a century earning the right to be a cocksure arrogant dickwad.
Lets just ask Drak about paracetamol and its ani-inflammatory properties then ehh?
My ports do come across blunt but actually avoid medical threads generally. Occasionally though I will give some input more so when there's bad advice
Dear God you're a bitter man.
Pint of Landlord, thanks.
Not at all but you ****ed me off yesterday by calling me down being the professional you are but then the advice you gave wasn't entirely correct was it?
Sorry it's a northerner club we have McKewand Export.
Christ on a bike.
Do you want to come back when you're sober?
I'm out.
You mean you didn't win? Tough.
Wally. I like the irony of your post.
