[Closed] Vape affecting my chest

She's moved into your house and you're asking if it's ok to ask her to stop doing it due to your health?

New GF?

Pics required! 😆

Show her where outside is.

Am i being unreasonable in asking her to only vape outdoors?

No.

Outside only.

I'm wondering if there's any passive affect too as my work mate vapes in the van with the window cracked but I still get wafts of strawberry over my side.

Do you have a shed?

Do you have a patio?

Are you asthmatic per chance ???
I am ... and there are some aroma / flavour chemical that tigger me at really low levels .... so if she changes what she vapes, the the issue might go away.

That said - I am sure we will find in the next few years that vaping is not in the slightest bit good for you health ...

Her smoking affects your health - of course its not unreasonable- whose house it is irrelevant

Louise?

I guess it depends on the type of vaper they are.. If it's just nicotine replacement therapy, then there's no need to be pumping out 80's disco levels of tuiti fruiti flavored smog.

Im not asthmatic but i think its because its been every day over the last 2 weeks. I use my turbo in one of the downstairs rooms and really feel it in my throat after. I did tell her last night if it gets worse i'll have to ask her to vape outside.

Theres a garden and a small porch at the back so shelter if its raining.

My g/f has moved in with me very recently and she smokes, but she does roll-ups and smokes outside, either round the side of the house where it’s sheltered if raining, or out back on the patio garden seat. Fortunately, for whatever reason, I never smell the smoke, and she doesn’t smell of ciggies, for which I am very greatful!
As the house is the OP’s, I’d be insisting she takes her habit outside if I were him, especially as it’s looking like it’s affecting his health.

Never date smokers, vegetarians or women with kids.

Just shout FOG OF WAAAAR and chant in the pit in the pit whenever she vapes. She’ll get the hint.

[quote=oldtalent ]Never date smokers, vegetarians or women with kids.

or judgemental folk with lists

Gits, Patio, Louise all gone, I'm too bloody slow................

You seem to need our approval before you dare broach an entirely reasonable request with your gf. Are you a bit scared of her?

Vaping full stop turns my stomach. I hate smoking but at least that used to be cool. People who vape look like they're playing a shit piccolo. Do both of you a favour and use this as a reason to get her to quit.

or judgemental folk with lists

Good addition. So it's:

1: Vegetarians
2: Smokers
3: Women with kids
4: Judgemental folk with lists

Probably covers 90 percent of the female population there, although there's probably a bit of crossover between judgemental folk and vegetarians. 🙂

I don’t fit into any of those categories. Your 90% is way out! 😆

Your 90% is way out!

Don't judge me!

What about vegans? (shudder)

you not just got a cold or virus?

regardless, your house your rules.

shit piccolo

The accepted term is douche flute I believe.

I'd date a vegan over a vaper any day. Veganism makes a lot of sense. Inhaling flavoured steam makes very little.

btw it's more likely the flavours that are affecting your chest I reckon, if they are, entirely possible no doubt, strawberry flavours in particular are utterly brutal when you get a whiff of them.

The actual smell was ok at first. Not really fruity just kind of like an air freshener. Now it makes me feel ill.

Comparatively, my partner likes to smoke but doesn't do so in her own home because I [s]bitched until she relented[/s] asked her not to.

In all weathers she pops outside to blaze one, the poor sod.

Love and respect, eh...

🙂

I'm sure no strawberries are harmed in the manufacture of said vape juice, more likely to be some cancer causing chemicals.

I'm a filthy vaper with asthmatic allergy reactions to mainly animal hair, cheap dilute orange and some vape flavours! The animal one is fairly normal I guess but I find the other two a bit odd.

I can toot away on most flavours but I've had the odd one that cause the same symptoms as OP.

Ask her to change flavours. I'll bet that sorts it.

Start smoking crack in the front room.

That’ll learn ‘er! 😀

Get rid.

Vaping full stop turns my stomach. I hate smoking but at least that used to be cool. People who vape look like they're playing a shit piccolo. Do both of you a favour and use this as a reason to get her to quit.

No, smoking had a pretence of being cool - why are you judging people who are finding an alternative to fags?

why are you judging people who are finding an alternative to fags?

Latest thing isn’t it.
Not as many smokers to look down on these days so the[s] nobheads [/s] people who need to feel better about themselves moan about vaping now instead.

Are you new here? This place is sanctimony central! 😀

Mrs Binners said that she doesn’t know what she’s doing with me as she always swore she’d never end up with a smoker or a united fan

Now I don’t smoke any more, but vape, she’s happier, but my Old Trafford visits still utterly appall her! Now Jose is manager she even more fervently supports whoever we’re playing against. Bless ‘er 🙂

martinhutch - Member

or judgemental folk with lists

Good addition. So it's:

1: Vegetarians
2: Smokers
3: Women with kids
4: Judgemental folk with lists

Probably covers 90 percent of the female population there, although there's probably a bit of crossover between judgemental folk and vegetarians.

Chapeau sir. A classic response from start to finish.

Amyl acetates a really good trigger for asthma
.... so double apple / pear / banana flavours?

Is there a beef flavour?

Beef and onion 🙂

Amyl acetates a really good trigger for asthma
.... so double apple / pear / banana flavours?

Well there we go. It had to be something.

Thanks for the info.

Can you get scampi and lemon flavour

If she does it in a room with the door shut and the window open then I don't see how it can affect you . Sounds like she has given up smoking and hopefully vaping is a short term thing on the way to being nicotine free in the future . Possibly a bit of support from you will help her to achieve that goal .

Get her to try a pure menthol plavour, nothing added to the base Glycerine apart from dissolved menthol crystals.

(Decadent Vapours and Flavour West are both very clean examples)

scotroutes - Member
Is there a beef flavour?

monster munch would be awesome! 😆

nealglover - Member
Get her to try a pure menthol plavour, nothing added to the base Glycerine apart from dissolved menthol crystals.

aye, I always use mint/menthol, no noticeable smell from them.

seosamh77 - Member

scotroutes - Member
Is there a beef flavour?

monster munch would be awesome!

I've never vaped and not familiar with their contents. Why are there health concerns over this compared to going to a steam room (my local one has menthol in it)? Is it purely the added chemicals?

, your house your rules.

This made me laugh, we're talking about a woman with a nicotine addiction 😆

sey Neil - Member 

If she does it in a room with the door shut and the window open then I don't see how it can affect you . 

It's very noticeable walking up the stairs so it must be blowing under the door. Even more noticeable when the door opens. I know it's not smoke but it blows out the room the same and really lingers about. I do support her but my health is more important than being able to vape indoors.

Just rush into the 'affected' room with a fire extinguisher then say, 'sorry love, I thought the house was on fire'

Hate the words 'vaping' & 'vape'. Sounds like raping & rape.

oldtalent - Member

Never date smokers, vegetarians or women with kids.

There was a time....say 10 years ago or more when almost all young ladies seemed to smoke, and be vegetarians. At least most of the very good looking ones did round my way. If you were into goth/emo/metal scenes then this rose to roughly 99%. Now I am as principled as the next man, but when it comes to very attractive females I [s]am[/s] was willing to make some compromises.

Also this.

matt_outandabout - Member

New GF?

Cletus - Member

Pics required!

Don't vape inside, try the backdoor.

Don't vape inside, try the backdoor

Yeah, but "smoking the monster munch" wouldn't be as funny.

😆

But if he gets rid, she’ll no doubt start smoking again and op will never stop blaming himself for her smoking.

But yeah, I vape outside whilst covering the whole town in fizzy bull (red bull) juicy cloud. 😆

On serious note- it could be the PG mixed in that could cause some issues with your breathing or the VG element which is flavour additives which includes sugar.
This could mean you have a sensitivity to sugar which I pity you.

rene59 - Member
I've never vaped and not familiar with their contents. Why are there health concerns over this compared to going to a steam room (my local one has menthol in it)? Is it purely the added chemicals?

“Responsible vaping” is almost certainly better for you than smoking.

Vaping comes with two main risks though: firstly there are no regulations, or restrictions on what you can put in a vape mixture. So the long term health affects of various flavours and additives are unknown. On top of that there are no controls over the purity or quality of the components. They might be 99% pure but what is the remaining 1% and what harm might it do? Possibly none, but certainly some are prepared in China in conditions that wouldn’t meet food standard never mind pharma quality yet you breath these directly into your lungs. Obviously the passive effects will be less concentrated. I suspect over time a quality standard will emerge and rules will be introduced on validating the safety of each new additive and so this risk will reduce. The menthol in your steam room might be similar, although you breath it less directly and it *might* be medical grade product (like vicks).

The second (and IMHO) more significant risk is that the nicotine dose is essentially uncontrolled - the user is free to set that themselves, and because it is very affordable they can easily vape much more often than they might have smoked. Anecdotally about half those I know who have switched from smoking to vaping successfully reduced or stopped altogether, a significant proportion of the other half are actually now consuming a lot more nicotine than when they smoked albeit delivered in a form where they feel healthier, there is less social stigma etc. We focus on the effects of smoke with cigarettes, but pure nicotine is still a toxin.

Well said although testing new juice comes at a cost and so should new tests be coming for reputable manufacturers of the stuff.

Nicotine as you say is a toxin but at least it’s not that heroin nasty stuff!

“Responsible vaping” [s]is almost certainly better for you[/s] hasn't had the long term health impacts assessed to determine if it's better for you than smoking.

Nicotine as you say is a toxin but at least it’s not that heroin nasty stuff!

Which is damning with faint praise of the highest order.

It’s bad, but at least it’s not heroin!

I used to smoke in my bedroom as a yoot by jamming a blow heater in the open window and blowing the smoke into the inlet vent whereupon it would be blown outside.....a bit.

Get her a blow heater.

tdog - Member
Well said although testing new juice comes at a cost and so should new tests be coming for reputable manufacturers of the stuff.

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rugbydick - Member
“Responsible vaping”

is almost certainly better for you hasn't

had the long term health impacts assessed to determine if it's better for you than smoking.

FTFY

I take it you didn't bother to read the rest of my post

Granted there are *probably* fewer toxins, carcinogens, etc in vaping compared with tobacco. The effect of the method of delivery into the body of those that are present hasn't been fully understood though, so it's currently impossible to tell whether those fewer chemicals are actually causing more harm.
Agreed that vaping probably will turn out to be the lesser of the two evils though.

If smokers were going to make decisions based on widely available / proven science anyone under ~70 should not have taken it up

Poly has it, above. There are hundreds of materials that go to compose flavours and although the flavour and fragrance industries are tightly regulated the flavours used in vaping are, as far as I know, designed for ingestion and nobody knows what effect they are having on people's lungs. It will probably be twenty years before symptoms begin to show up in the vaping population and studies begin to confirm what's going wrong. Give millions of people hundreds of chemicals and a few will always react badly so it's entirely possible that you are one of the people who are allergic to one of the ingredients.

They do seem to have found a potentially much less harmful way of delivering nicotine, and taken this golden opportunity to add all kinds of shite to the mix, plus increased the potential nicotine dose to make it more addictive.

Would be unsurprised if we start seeing significant increases in chronic, disabling pulmonary diseases in five or ten years time as a result.

Read all of it...
...Agreed that vaping probably will turn out to be the lesser of the two evils though.

So she stopped vaping indoors about 7pm yesterday but its still lingering in the air. It might take a few days to clear.

I've got nothing against vaping and think its a good way to cut down or quite smoking all together. The thing i find odd is when people say 'Vaping is better for you than smoking'. No its not. It's not [u]better[/u] for you at all. It's [u]less harmful[/u] to you but still bad for you.

I'd bet anyone a large sum of money that vaping will be reliably shown to be far less injurious to health than smoking. I'd also bet that there will be a small vociferous number of professional sceptics who refuse to accept the research however compelling it becomes.

Smoking fills your lungs with huge quantities of horribly damaging chemicals and tar. You'd have to work really hard at it to make a vape mix anywhere near as bad. That's not too say it is totally harmless though.

OH used to smoke a bit, not hugely heavy and he'd cut right down soon after we met, but I still hated it so he used to go outside into the garden, well away from the house even if it was pissing down or minus 10. Tough shit- you choose to do it to yourself so you go where you're not going to affect me as much, ta. The bout of pneumonia he had a few years ago that landed him in hospital and caused him to stop, cold turkey, was brilliant. He's been off them since and can't stand the smell or thought of it now.

edit- I couldn't give two shiny shites if those who choose to put shit into their bodies get very sick in 5-10 years. Darwin. The bummer will be the extra burden on the NHS the stupid selfish ****ers cause.

It's not better for you at all. It's less harmful to you but still bad for you.

It's less harmful to you but still bad for you.

Based on what evidence ?

After WW11 eighty percent of men and sixty percent of women smoked and the rest of us born in the fifties, sixties or seventies got their more harmful secondary smoke. I can remember my grandparents smoking with us small children around and more recently, in April 1998, going into a pub in Dublin and choking in the thick smoke. As that generation shuffles off, deaths from smoking-related disease must start to decline soon, surely? They are already being replaced by the obese generation.

Based on what evidence ?

Simple, it still contains nicotine, which while not as obviously harmful as the ingredients of tar, is still reckoned to be a potential carcinogen among other things.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4363846/

As others have said, vaping offers the potential for much higher exposure to nicotine, or at least potentially makes it easier to achieve this.

There is little or no evidence about the additives/flavourings because no-one has been inhaling them long enough in particular formulations for a picture to emerge.

Based on what evidence ?

Well based on the current evidence and research we can conclude it is 'less harmful' than smoking.

There is no evidence to say vaping is in any way good for you.

@ poly, I was getting as I just noticed i should have reread and edited my last post.
That it now costs certain vape juice brands £4k for testing on every flavour according to someone I know of who works in the food safety who heard this from the horses mouth.

Sounded bonefide enough.

Just reading a few articles and they say nicotine can be absorbed through saliva, skin, eyes, etc. As vaping is water based it might suggest that nicotine in 2nd hand vape can be absorbed by non users more than 2nd hand smoke.

2nd hand vape makes me feel more ill than 2nd hand smoke.

Yeah don’t touch and especially not to down those lovely juice flavours as this is toxic if digesting a large amount.