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US 'experimental' execution. WTAF!!

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if a product is damaged we simply discard them. If we were to repair them, there is no guarantee this can prevent other similar product from being damaged. The only way to prevent the product from being damaged is to ensure future similar product is made properly, otherwise we discard them

People aren't 'products' to 'discard'.  Sounds like a similar argument to that used by the Nazis to justify gassing  disabled people. 


 
Posted : 27/01/2024 6:26 pm
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America is simply a backwards country with a host of issues.

I agree that the United States has a host of issues but dismissing it as backwards is a misrepresentation imo. The issues are mostly political and necessarily a reflection of how advanced the US is as a society.

When the US Supreme Court declared capital punishment unconstitutional in 1972 and effectively banned it I think most countries still had the death penalty.

Although it was reinstituted four years later at a federal level it still remains abolished in almost half of all states. Even in some of the states where it hasn't been officially abolished I believe that capital punishment is sometimes never carried out.


 
Posted : 27/01/2024 6:27 pm
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https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/06/us/us-executions-death-penalty-dg/index.html

Texas alone, for instance, accounts for 37% of all executions carried out since 1977

Of the more than 3,100 counties and their equivalents in the United States, just 506 — or 16% — have carried out any executions since 1977

So capital punishment is by far the exception rather than the rule in the US.

Btw I believe that the states which use capital punishment the most are also the states with the highest levels of homicides. So much for the claim that capital punishment works.


 
Posted : 27/01/2024 6:34 pm
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Ernie - when everyone has to proclaim a belief in God to get anywhere politically, when extreme theists are in power, when schools teach creation not science, when people die from simple illnesses because they are poor, when maternal and neonatal death rates are so high, when they kill each other on such a scale, when workers have no rights , when its a society that is so racist,I think backward is a fair representation

None of these things are worthy of an "advanced" nation

Morally its no different to somewhere like Saudi Arabia or Iran


 
Posted : 27/01/2024 6:35 pm
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I've not posted on this and I guess I risk a ban for it, but I got a warning last night, almost 24hrs ago (and I requested an explanation as I can't see how what I posted broke forum rules, but as I haven't had one in a day I think I'm fair game)

I posted on the dangers of inert gas asphyxiation, talking from my work experience, and presenting factual information answering the OP.
I really can't see why that was deleted when offensive crap like some others have posted recently isn't.

[and fwiw I don't particularly think it should be, leave it up to be challenged and debunked]


 
Posted : 27/01/2024 7:04 pm
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when everyone has to proclaim a belief in God to get anywhere politically, when extreme theists are in power, when schools teach creation not science, when people die from simple illnesses because they are poor, when maternal and neonatal death rates are so high, when they kill each other on such a scale, when workers have no rights , when its a society that is so racist,

So not a fan then?

Btw all the trendy issues and terminology so loved by UK Guardian-reading tofu eaters invariably originate from the United States, eg, gender fluid, people of colour, BLM, woke, etc etc.

Where would UK liberals be without US liberals showing them to way and telling them what to say?


 
Posted : 27/01/2024 7:05 pm
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Liberalism comes from the UK / europe.


 
Posted : 27/01/2024 7:24 pm
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The Brits invented it!


 
Posted : 27/01/2024 7:32 pm
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The Brits invented it!

Along with hanging, drawing and quartering....


 
Posted : 27/01/2024 7:36 pm
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The Brits invented it!

The french might have something to say about that


 
Posted : 27/01/2024 7:37 pm
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agree that the United States has a host of issues but dismissing it as backwards is a misrepresentation imo.

We’re all entitled to our opinions and we differ on this one. TJ has covered the vast majority in his post already. Backwards is a great way to describe the place in my humble opinion. The liberal terms you describe as coming from the US only do so due to the levels of persecution against people of colour and trans resulting in the terms needing to be coined in the first place.


 
Posted : 27/01/2024 8:02 pm
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None of these things are worthy of an “advanced” nation

The "states" part of the name is highly relevant here. Some states are as advanced as any other but some are rather less so.


 
Posted : 27/01/2024 8:13 pm
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@tjagain you forgot the literally crumbling infrastructure. Roads so bad that European vehicle manufacturers have to equip their exports with forged rather than cast alloy wheels. Also, just try cycling or walking anywhere. 


 
Posted : 27/01/2024 8:39 pm
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There seems to be some misplaced sense of superiority here. Maybe it's another cultural thing imported from the USA?


 
Posted : 27/01/2024 8:55 pm
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you forgot the literally crumbling infrastructure. Roads so bad

Just like the UK then


 
Posted : 27/01/2024 9:03 pm
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