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I know someone who will stack a draining rack from the front. From the second plate onwards every item gets banged into the first one, so ends up with a heap of porcelain chips on the drainer. This is why we can't have nice things.
And when did TJ take a picture of our kitchen drawer?
Using a blunt 30 year old bread knife for ALL cutting tasks in the kitchen! How we haven't had a major severing, blood spurt type injury is beyond me (we do have several very sharp knives of sizes and shape that are appropriate to each task). Oh and ripping open bags of frozen veg and extracting the contents through a tiny hole and complaining when they are spilt all over the floor.
As it's now rate my kitchen drawer and i started the thread - here's ours! Critique away!... 🙂

That’s not a patina, thats a heroin spoon.
In the interst of transparency, feel free to rate my cuttlery tray…
I’m aware it needs work, but it’s pretty decent compared to some of the atrocity on here.
I think mines a solid six out of ten.
Its complete filth. Not even close to a 6/10. So many things wrong with it but, most critically, where are your teaspoons. You animal.
As is tradition, we have a plastic washing up bowl in the stainless steel sink.
People can largely do what they want IMO, but plastic washing bowls - as opposed to washing things under running water like the rest of the world manage is without exception; minging. I've no idea why it's still so popular in this country, but it's gross.
Opening frozen veg has just triggered me - MrsMC's disability affects her ability to open most packets - frozen veg, crisps, any sort of spherical confectionery.
She can use scissors of course.
Of course she doesn't. She grips the packet with her teeth, yanks it with her good hand and tears the packet open, sending the contents all over the room, while also leaving the packet incapable of being closed shut in a secure snd airtight manner.
People can largely do what they want IMO, but plastic washing bowls – as opposed to washing things under running water like the rest of the world manage is without exception; minging. I’ve no idea why it’s still so popular in this country, but it’s gross.
Same. We have one and I have no idea why, it's utterly baffling to me but I've conceded that particular battle for an easy life. My OH and people on here, when this has been raised before offer unconvincing arguments about saving water (you are in control of the tap). Or being able to move the bowl to use the tap (the kind of people who fill a bowl to 'soak' but never wash the contents).
They are gross, invariably become scratched in short order holding grime until they need replacing so more unnecessary plastic is produced. They limit the capacity so washing larger or awkward shaped items is more difficult. If you feel the need to put a washing up basin inside a perfectly serviceable washing up basin why stop there? Why not keep going in some Russian doll style? It's bonkers and I bet most people do it because they've always done it, without thinking 'why'?
If one washes up properly, then a washing up bowl is a must. Firstly one doesn't scratch the stainless steel sink, or stain the porcelain sink.
Wash the cleanest items first, then a bit of a rinse. It uses less water. Simple.
Gosh we all seem to own a lot of teaspoons. My posh cutlery is stored in a box (steak knives, cake forks etc), otherwise they get abused by being thrown from a distance into the cutlery drawer from the dishwasher.
Youv’e put knives into a tray in a drawer… on this basis, we can never be friends.
You beat me to it. This is one battle I have finally won, persuading her not to ram my nice knives somewhere "for safety," usually mashed up against something else metal like the slots in the draining rack.
She still puts table knifes blade-end down in the drainer "for safety" despite the forks being in the Newcastle position (tines side up) and thus far more dangerous should a small child suddenly develop the ability to leap four feet in the air and land face-first into a collection of slightly damp cutlery. However, I accept this as a reasonable compromise agreement if I don't have to spend half an hour every day trying to repair cutting edges.
And as any fule kno: The order should be K F S, not S K F.
We had this discussion on Disproportionally Cross. I posit that it doesn't matter so long as you maintain consistency.
Carrier bags. She can’t throw them out. Our cupboard under the stairs is full of them.
Bags For Life. They're for life alright, once they enter the house they never leave. We have more Bags For Life than your average supermarket, but when I go to Tesco I have to buy more of the $%^&ing things because there's none in the car. I leave used ones by the door to take out with me next time I go out, she (regular readers will notice a theme here) tidies them away somewhere. Where? The gods only know, "I haven't moved them!" Right, maybe we've got a polterhideygeist.
I’m not allowed to throw them out.
It's easier to ask for forgiveness than permission.
If one washes up properly, then a washing up bowl is a must. Firstly one doesn’t scratch the stainless steel sink, or stain the porcelain sink.
If you hold a thing under a running tap, it also doesn't get scratched by the sink, and after you've finished cleaning it, you can rinse it to get rid of the dirty water and soap. The rest of the world (I've surveyed them*) think that washing up bowls are minging, trust me.
* At one practice I worked at we had a united nations of GPs and nurses, I think only the UK and Irish GP had bowls (the Irish GP had used his since his under-grad days, and thought it might have been an inheritance even then...) the Europeans and rest of the world were both amazed and disgusted in equal measure
This thread is therapeutic for me.
Instead of covering things already mentioned I'll add a new one. Water temperature, the sainted Mrs Hoppy argues with herself over this but it's my problem. I turned the outlet temperature on the boiler down because it doesn't need to be scaldingly hot just to add cold in but apparently this is a problem because of potential legionalla build up in the tank (we have a combi boiler) no amount of explaining will persuade her so I turned it back up and the hot water was too hot despite being where it was before I now live a life of disapproving looks as I try to find a satisfactory temperature that needs to be lower than 46 but higher than 50.
Oh and Spoons, Forks then Knives in the drawer.
I try to find a satisfactory temperature that needs to be lower than 46 but higher than 50.
I had to check ours. I turned it down when we first moved in, you could've brewed up with it. The previous occupant "liked it warm" apparently. It's currently set at 50'C in "comfort mode" ie heat-on-demand. Target temp for the central heating is 70'C. These seem to be about right, you can run a bath too hot to get into and fill a washing-up bowl - erm, sink - with water hot enough to wash properly.
Knife , fork , spoon . Fine.
But there are obviously 2 sizes of spoons.
Large for shovelling cereal into ones month.
Small for yoghurt and removing tea bags from mugs .
So should it be knifes, fork , big spoon , little spoon.
Big spoon , knife , fork , little spoon .
Little spoon , knife , fork , big spoon?
Oh the dilemma
Can I just add - tipping half a mug of leftover coffee into the sink before putting the mug in the dishwasher. But not rinsing the coffee down the plughole, so I find dried coffee stains all over the sink a bit later.
Knife should be to the right of forks because that is how you hold them. Spoons I'm ambivalent about as long as it's to one side or the other, never in-between.
Knife should be to the right of forks because that is how you hold them.
There is some logic in that but you're still wrong. I think because it's always said "get the knives and forks" and never "get the forks and knives", the knife must always be to the left cos then you get knife > fork > spoon.
That is the order.
In much the same way that the number three shall be the number thou shall count.
Big spoon, little spoon, cardboard box?
I have the OP's problem (not his wife, obviously). The draining board rack fits best in one direction, wife must have it perpendicular to that. No words have ever been exchanged about that, even when I just wander up and reposition it right in front of her.
I have mentioned pouring coffee down the bathroom sink drain, couldn't deal with that one.
Would post a pic of the cutlery drawer, but since I just open it and pour the contents of the drying rack into it, then close it again, I think it might prove upsetting.
it’s always said “get the knives and forks”
Always? "Get the cutlery."
the knife must always be to the left cos then you get knife > fork > spoon.
But then you have to have to swap them over. For that logic to hold you'd also have the knife(s) on the left when place-setting.
I know you right-handed weirdos switch hands routinely with forks and spoons depending on whether you're also using a knife or not, but it makes no sense.
@tracey …
Youv’e put knives into a tray in a drawer…
I did twitch when i saw that... Couple of weekends after my ex moved out i actually went to buy a magnetic knife board so i could get my decent knives out of the draw.
I then bought a proper whetstone set and, unfortunately, needed to buy a few new knives...
If you hold a thing under a running tap, it also doesn’t get scratched by the sink, and after you’ve finished cleaning it, you can rinse it to get rid of the dirty water and soap
If I am reading this correctly this means that the tap is running continuously whilst washing? Surely this uses a lot of water and energy to heat it. I would have been told off for this as a kid, and having spent many weeks as a teenager ( formative years) on small boats washing up with the minimum of water was ingrained as we were the ones who had to carry all the water to fill the tanks. Same with brushing teeth, the tap is only running when cleaning the brush not during the brushing.
I can see why we have hosepipe bans. It's all these people having taps constantly running down the plughole as they wash up.
With modern on-demand hot water, you generally can't have it slow enough for this method and still be enough to make the boiler kick in. Huge waste.
I have a bowl but set the hot tap as slow as possible into it as I wash. A hybrid approach. I rinse as i go but if the bowl fills up i turn the tap off (I've washed and rinsed the bulk of the big ticket items by then) and then it's usually only cutlery left so they get a quick rinse in the draining pot and job done.
If something has been soaking, you still have space around the bowl (with a single sink) to pour it away at the side of the bowl. There's always someone who's left a couple of swigs of tea in a cup you come across. Where does that go if you've filled up the sink without a bowl?
- How on earth do you all manage to stay married/co-habiting/living in sin etc with all this low grade passive aggressive warfare going on?
- I'm beginning to understand why some people are the way that they are on here. 😉
Nothing wrong with knives in the drawer out of the way.
Well, yeah. If you're into having self-serrated and/or blunt knives it's fine.
How on earth do you all manage to stay married/co-habiting/living in sin etc with all this low grade passive aggressive warfare going on?
Constant, low-level bickering has been part of our relationship since day 1.
It's our 34th wedding anniversary this year! 🙂
Congratulations. 34 years for us as well.
Knives are as sharp as some of the wit on here
38 years married, the bickering is what keeps us together! 😉
Surely this uses a lot of water and energy to heat it.
Less than filling a plastic bowl. It doesn't need to be coming out of the tap like a hose pipe, just a bit more than a trickle is sufficient, and you can turn the tap on or off as you need it, it doesn't need to be running constantly.
How on earth do you all manage to stay married/co-habiting/living in sin etc with all this low grade passive aggressive warfare going on?
Have you seen the cost of a divorce?
Besides, we have to stay united to defeat The Kids.
Less than filling a plastic bowl.
I would be very interested to know that if the next time you did the washing up using your method with a bowl collecting the water what quantity you ended up using. Try it and report back? Genuinely interested in the result.
On our recent water bill it gives tips for keeping water use low, it states do not run the tap when cleaning teeth, this probably applies to washing up using the 'rinsing under the tap' method.
In a bowl (which I only fill to half way) you have both hands free to scrub the scrambled egg pan, or get the sponge (eco friendly plant based) into the corners of a tupperware or non-dishwasher proof creuset dish etc.
One last thing, in a washing up bowl one can get the water quite hot, apply the marigolds and as Kayak says pour dirty swilled bits into the sink before plunging into the bowl itself, scrub,scrub.scrub, pop onto draining board and a swill over at the end to rinse. Voila!
apply the marigolds and ...
This usually doesn't end well
Constant, low-level bickering has been part of our relationship since day 1.
Mrs f likes to wander in and 'adjust' the draining board rack while I'm washing up, giving me a slight side eye whilst she does it before wandering off, always makes me smirk, it's basically foreplay 😀
On our recent water bill it gives tips for keeping water use low
There was for a while some 'campaigning advertising' in the restrooms at Fairholmes CP at Ladybower. to the tune of "do you know how much water etc etc" It's recently been painted over. My answer to that and the sorts of advice that they put on water bills, given their own recent behaviour isn't really repeatable on this forum.
you have both hands free
So you hold the sponge in both hands? You hold the thing you're cleaning with both hands and the sponge in your teeth? Or more likely, just like me, you're holding the thing in one hand and scrubbing away at the thing with the other, right? The only difference, is all the crap from my cleaning goes directly down the plug hole, and yours goes back into the same water you're going to 'clean' the next thing with.
@jimw, it's about half a bowl.
38 years married, the bickering is what keeps us together! 😉
I've pretty much decided that marriage is in fact just two people who've decided that a relationship is just shouting "what?" at each other from different rooms.
I’ve pretty much decided that marriage is in fact just two people who’ve decided that a relationship is just shouting “what?” at each other from different rooms.
I recently saw it described as deciding to spend the rest of your life with someone stood in front of the cupboard or drawer that you want to use.
shouting “what?” at each other from different rooms.
Which reminds me, she's very prone to ejaculating "Eh?" when she hasn't clearly heard what has been said. It's habitual, she's always done it, but for some reason I've become much more aware of it recently. And then remembered a general statement from my childhood that "Eh?" is rude and unnecessary. So, the current unspoken battle on that front is that I now completely ignore the word "Eh?" and wait for her to say "Sorry, what was it you said, please?"
Does the rhyme about "'ay is for 'orses" ring any bells?
ay for orses
bee for mutton
see for thailanders
dee for dumb
etc
But there are obviously 2 sizes of spoons.
Dessert spoons and teaspoons.
Teaspoons get their own little coral, within which THEY SHOULD ALL LIE IN THE SAME DIRECTION!
(Of course, if you also have soup spoons and sundae spoons, it gets more difficult, so best left for the butler to deal with.)
Does the rhyme about “‘ay is for ‘orses” ring any bells?
This is what I can pull from memory:
A for horses
B for mutton
C for miles
D for sa post
E for brick
F for vessent
G for
H for
I for the Engine
J for
K for
L for leather
M for
N for
O for the wall
P for
Q for a P
R for Mallard
S for
T for two
U for me
V for
W for
X for
Y for husband
Z for a wind
Teaspoons get their own little coral, within which THEY SHOULD ALL LIE IN THE SAME DIRECTION!
From the looks of some of these photos, they have to lie in opposite directions because there are too many spoons to fit in otherwise. The solution, of course, is that you have too many spoons.
You cannot have too many teaspoons.
Teaspoons get their own little coral, within which THEY SHOULD ALL LIE IN THE SAME DIRECTION!
Front to back yes, left to right no, I'll allow some to lie in the wrong direction to help those less able. You see some of us are correct handed, the remainder are right handed.
You cannot have too many teaspoons.
This is true, because they migrate to the same vortex as 10mm sockets
You cannot have too many teaspoons.
You've either got 30 or you've got none. There is no middle ground. I don't know why. Withcraft?
Trash gets pilled up on the kitchen counter next to the bin, even when the bin has space in it. It's worse than a teabag replica of the Leaning Tower.
Teaspoons should of course be kept in a beaker on the worktop next to the stove/hotplates/gas rings etc, handle down, for hygienic food tasting purposes.
>200 posts in a day!
Touched a release button ?
I’d take that any day over “on top of the bin.”
Or the recycling bin! I don't understand it, though; it gets moved into the bin at certain points during the day. It's like she doesn't want to commit to throwing it in the trash just then.
We call it ‘teabag Jenga’.
I think I went to college with her.
I recently learned we have a passive aggressive fork. Turns out this is a shitty wee fork that I get given if I’ve pissed her off. It really pissed her off that I didn’t notice this act on a number of occasions and wasn’t upset at eating slower
Yes, on page one of this thread. 😉
Doh!
At least I didn't try to take credit for it 😀
Soup spoons, I have a favorite yet it's always hidden amongst the oddly shaped dessert spoons usually beside the good dessert spoon.
Ive just come across this thread and can identify with loads of comments, particularly the ‘hidey-tidy’
on dishwashers, I saw a meme recently,’in every relationship there’s the one who stacks the dishwasher like a Swedish architect, and the one who stacks it like a raccoon on crystal meth!”
Most of you are spelling cluttery drawer wrong by the looks of your drawers....
This organiser from that lad Joseph will mess with your heads. More teaspoons and stuff in the dishy (so we don't have a plastic bowl in the sink)
To take the pic ihadto move Mrs epic out the way

No that was also in this thread!
I saw a meme recently,’in every relationship there’s the one who stacks the dishwasher like a Swedish architect, and the one who stacks it like a raccoon on crystal
I've just remembered a proper unspoken one I do. Favourite matching pair of bowls I use for a lot of our meals and one has a large chip on the edge from where other half washed it up so it's always the one he gets his dinner in. Not being petty but seeing as we are unable to have nice matching sets of anything due to his regularly smashing the dishes against the sink it seems fair.
Actually I've given in more recently and gone down the grotty washing up bowl route to try to save future dishes. Having always been a wash up under running water person I can say it definitely uses more water but is more pleasant and hygienic and the dish drainer doesn't end up boggin. I'm not chief washer upper but the Kayak hybrid method is what I use now and no way in hell is anyone only using half a bowl worth of water if you wash up under running water.
What kind of lunatic puts their spoons and forks in that way round ?!
What kind of lunatic puts their spoons and forks in that way round ?!
Design fail, it's the only way they'll all fit ( which we only realised once we got it home)
What kind of lunatic puts their spoons and forks in that way round ?!
The sort who doesn't wear socks with trainers (or wears those funny, girly little socklett things).
Couldn't be doing with either!
That cutlery drawer un organiser wants taking outside and burning.
Is it from IKEA,? because it shouts of form over function .
We used to have a wandering pencil (not a euphemism) in the house. After being pestered for leaving pens and pencils lying around i took to bluetacking it in plain but not obvious sight.
Along the edge of the coving.
On the ceiling.
Under the edge of the tv
To the back of the bathroom cabinet.
Along the beading of various doors.
And the crowning glory... Inside the paper light shades so it appeared when the light was turned on.
It took a while to realise the "left on pegs" in sleeves and legs of all my clothes was intentional ?
the car is our theatre of war
music - she likes tranquility, i like a rave (kids do too) - so music starts low then i use the buttons on the steering wheel to slowly but surely ramp up the volume - she absent-mindedly uses the volume controller (ok ok knob) to lower it - if challenged i claim (partly true) the car does it by itself as it gets faster. This goes on until she notices it’s got out of control at which point shel’ll press the knob to turn the stereo off. We’ll sit in silence for 5 mins then when i go to turn it back on (the knob is the only way) she’ll (jokily, ish) slap my hand away.
Also when she drives she says she uses the ratchet thing on the side of the drivers seat to raise it by 6 lifts, but if i lower it by 6 lifts the seat is no where near my driving position so when i challenge the 6 lifts thing she’ll then add about 15 other seat adjustments that change every time aaargh
(edit just in case i use the car for work, she uses it very occasionally!)
So, the current unspoken battle on that front is that I now completely ignore the word “Eh?”
Doing it wrong. You need to sing back "you're adorable"
Why can't I find this on youtube?
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2uop7f
Oh christ. And now I've posted on this thread. Whilst I can't really get with you spoons guys, I feel danger
Do your worst. We do have more teaspoons

Jesus for a second there i thought the pattern on the handles was a tesselated swastika
Swastika tea spoons? Now that is niche.
How do you stop it auto-playing?
And now I’ve posted on this thread. Whilst I can’t really get with you spoons guys, I feel danger
And so you should. There is a special place in internet hell for people who post autoplaying content.