[Closed] United v Real tonight. Any predictions?

thats trouble

See previous post. X2

Nani has cost them. Bet Rooney is seething 🙂

the ref is spoiling the game.. no way a red card

CR's magnanimity has raised my opinion of him to a little above spoilt, whiney (if talented) cockbag.

I think that was a red. If you go in, studs up, both feet off ground on someones leg it's a straight red. so, whats the difference between leg and chest?

Rooney to get sent off, just after 90 minutes, with a cruncher on Ronaldo.

Never a Red Card, my arse !! Clear sending off ...
Oh dear, I can hear toys being thrown out of (fair weather) prams everywhere ...

Great save - that needed to go in 🙁

Difference being the player came from behind him and last time I checked humans don't have eyes in the back of their head. He's gone to control a high ball. No chance red and it was nice to see Ramos chit chatting to the ref when nani was down.

Viz top tip

MAN UTD fans. Switch to ITV +1. It’s still 0-0 with everything to play for

He's gone to control a high ball

but, if you try and control a high ball, with studs up, and two feet off the ground, and you miss, and clatter someone, you're walking. not saying it's right, just saying those are the rules.

I didn't see Nani's sending off, but thought the RM disallowed goal in the first half should have stood - do refs try to balance decisions they think they made badly?

As a very wise man once said:

'Oh you can’t put your foot up in Europe
You can’t show your studs on the ‘nent
They take a dim view of a slightly raised shoe
So think on if you’re up against Ghent, my lad
Think on if you’re up against Ghent'

Shame, up until the sending off they were brilliant.

Ruined a fantastic game.

The rules shouldn't apply to ManYoo : FACT

great save & never a pen.

Keeper's been a bit useful for Madrid

Utd just don't have the quality to compete outside of the first 11 - Ashley Young, & Valencia compared to Modric & Kaka

Ruined a fantastic game.

Yup, and I'm not even Man U fan.

the special one does it again.

Tears all the way back to the Home Counties 😥

Ref. Brown bag. Stuffed full of dough. Probably.

It was a poor first half. No sense kidding ourselves that the ref ruined a classic. Nani had time to take his foot down. He gambled and lost. It'll be interesting to hear what Fergie has to say. 😀

Never a red, went for the ball, momentum took into a Madrid player who was just standing watching.

The best team lost....?

I'm guessing Mourinho & Ronaldo are worried they might've missed out on jobs in Manchester next season

Mourinho feathering his nest with the fans for when Fergie finally retires there.

The best team lost....?

Yeah, weird statement...preparing to take over at Man U?!

If that tackle had been knee hight the pundits would be baying for blood. totally correct red card.

Bad luck MU fans. Shame when a decision makes such an impact - but it doesn't matter, the refs decision, is the refs decision and nothing else matters. Pity because that was a good game until that point.

Jose playing all his CV cards now!

ManU lose then... 😆

Keano thinks it's a red. 😆

It was just a high foot, usually just a free-kick. It wasnt even a tackle as the other bloke didnt have the ball and wasnt making any effort to get it.

(Armoured) Taxi for Keano 🙂

Keane: "...you have to be aware of other players on the pitch..." 😆

PANZER for Keane.

Wearing my ex-ref's hat; keano has it spot on. If he raises his foot that high and catches someone he must be aware he will be sent off, and Ferguson knows it too.

Keano just disagrees with anything Southgate or AC says nowadays! I've seriously thought he was going to slap them in recent punditry. Saw Southgate in Brum the other week and nearly went over and mentioned it to him! He was having his breakfast at the time and thought better of it.

Just seen replay, correct decision from the ref imo, foot way too high and into the spanish geezers chest, should be done for assault!

Just in case anyone needs reminding of the kind of player Keano could be ...

the player knew it was a close call that's why he feigned injury.

If Roy Keane reckons it's a red card then it's a red card.

Look at the replay - Nani actually extends his leg after impact ... So attempts to maximise the impact

Roy Keane is probably pissed.

Bloody fix in my eyes!!!

All the Manure fans around the country can cry in their lager tonight .They could have gone and watched their local team instead ,lots of league action tonight

Retired referee Dermot Gallagher on BBC Radio 5 live: "[The decision was] harsh to say the least but in fairness the Real player did Nani no favours whatsoever. At worst Nani catches the underside of his arm, certainly not the ribs as the guy has gone down and shown.

"I can't reiterate enough that he [Nani] is watching the ball over his shoulder, there was no malice in him. At worst it was a yellow for dangerous play, but if I was refereeing that game I cannot see what stretch of the imagination where I would have sent him off for that."

the ref ruined the game 🙁

Spanish telly looking at the game now. Ramos should have conceded 3 penalties. 1. for holding Welbeck's shirt. 2. for the handball in the box, 3. for tripping someone near the end.

Not a sending off for me but where was United's resilience? - it looked inevitable that Madrid would win after the sending off.

Ferguson is lauded as a football tactician but he was unable to organise his 10 men to put up a viable defense. Out-thought by The Special One whose tactical nous is commonly derided.

Hope that Dortmund win the pot

Keane called the card right, and Nani knew what he'd done so faked injury and stayed down himself.
And it was a good save from Raphael, but could easily have been a penalty and another red if the ref had seen it.
Utd lucky to finish the game with 10 men.
But it's not about the number of players at the end, it's about the number of goals. And Madrid got two to utd's one, that's all that really matters.

The saddest part is that fergie bottled it with his team selection for another big euro game. They were there for the taking at the back. When the dust settles, hell be left wondering "what if" about picking Nani over Rooney. It's a real low to go out on, but he's not gonna be there for ever . Mourinho certainly looked like he knew there's a job available soon.

Could have gone either way in the end, had an air of inevitability about it once Nani got the red, unfortunately. Should have the experience to know you can't risk raising your foot that high with a European ref, rightly or wrongly.

Mourinho after the match was pretty funny, a lot of the time you hate him when he's in charge of the other team and think him a ****t, if he's in charge of your team, well at least he's your ****t.

why blame the Ref? Man U are never gracious in defeat. Same with Fergie, blame something else but when they win in extra time? Lol

but in fairness the Real player did Nani no favours whatsoever

A biter bit 😆

It makes me smile that Arbeloa is a former Liverpool player.

Oh the ironing of Man U fans whining about refereeing decisions and play acting/exaggerating fouls, especially where Nani is involved. 🙂

I predict 22 men will run around, kick a ball and each other a bit. Try to deceive the ref and the losers will blame it all on the officials

Prescient!

Has anybody blamed the Glaziers yet?

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Just like to point out that Utd fans weren't moaning about an even softer sending off that won them the game in last season's FA Cup 3rd round.

The amount of times the **** have gone through because of luck or repeatedly being in the easiest group, surprise surprise ferguson can't be more circumspect in defeat...

kimbers - Member
its probably fixed and they are probably all using the lance armstrong supplement programme

real will win on a dodgy refereeing decision, fergies blood presure will go so high that his head will actually explode

well i was close with the 2nd part

so i reckon i was right in the first part too:
somewhere in asia a crime syndicate made a lot of money from that result
the worlds richest sport = the worlds most corrupt

The saddest part is that fergie bottled it with his team selection for another big euro game. They were there for the taking at the back. When the dust settles, hell be left wondering "what if" about picking Nani over Rooney. It's a real low to go out on, but he's not gonna be there for ever . [b]Mourinho certainly looked like he knew there's a job available soon.[/b]

Well he'll obviously have competition from far better qualified and more experienced armchair experts. 🙂

From the refs angle it looked like Nani saw the other player over his shoulder at the last moment and rather than keeping his leg bent or pulling out, instead thrust his foot towards him studs forward.

Harsh decision but not a refereeing mistake. It was an entertaining game, just a shame we couldn't have seen 11 v 11.

The press conference on Sky afterwards was hilarious - the manager is not here as he's distraught (read - throwing a proper tantrum and his language is unsuitable for TV)

The referee got it spot on - there's nothing in the Laws that require intent for it to be a red card. The problem is that it wouldn't normally get a red in the PL.

At the end of the day, dubious decisions or not, we went out of the Champions League, to the best team in the world, after a pretty respectable performance.

I'm loving the deluge of gloating from fans (or is it 'fayns'?) of a certain premiership club who certainly won't be in the Champions League next season. Just as well, as they found the competition in the Europa league a bit above them this year. And couldn't get past Oldham in the FA cup.

Perspective's a wonderful thing isn't it? 😆

Look on the brightside, Huddersfield Town won last night in the Champion[b]ship[/b]

I'm loving the deluge of gloating from fans (or is it 'fayns'?) of a certain premiership club who certainly won't bee in the Champions League next season. Just as well, as they found the competition in the Europa league a bit above them this year. And couldn't get past Oldham in the FA cup.

😆

I wonder which team you mean, and I wonder who referenced them first in the thread binbins? Dry your eyes mate. 😉

binners much as it pains me to admit it I would probably have rather Man U won than Real. Not a fan of them or Mourinho.

But Ferguson has managed to remind me why I don't generally root for Man U in Europe. He acts like a spoilt child, and his one-eyedness is ludicrous. I know this isn't an exclusive trait in him but he is particularly ridiculous.

Mind you I find premier league/CL football in general pretty distasteful/boring these days. . I might even start calling it Wendyball soon. 🙂 Would rather go and watch Morecambe or go to the Rugby League with my brother

I'm fine with it Bravissimo. I always thought it'd be a bonus if we got past Real, on the form they're on. At least it wasn't the watch-it-through-you-fingers demolition we've suffered at the hands of that other Spanish club in some high profile CL matches over the last few years.

12 points clear at the top of the Premiership goes a long way as a consolation prize 😉

The thing I feel robbed of really was the post match Fergie press conference! Just imagine how that would have played out! 😯

Sorry Binners ... didn't I say Modric was overrated last week 😳

TBF... he normal can't hit a barn door with a bango... but that's no good to you now.

And I think in hind sight it should have been red. Last night I didnt think so ... Nani has got it try and control that ball, he can't allow it to bounce... But then again the same can be said of the Madrid player ... except he hasn't got his foot up.

I'm conflicted ... I always want to see the english go through (even if it was arsenal) but then again ManU have had more than thier fair share of doggy calls go thier way .... Pedro Mendes/Roy Carroll anyone ?? 👿

[quote=binners said]At the end of the day, dubious decisions or not, we went out of the Champions League, to [b]one of [/b]the best team[b]s[/b] in the world, after a pretty respectable performance.

That's better.

United only have themselves to blame - their approach play was very good in the first half, they made some good chances and failed to take them.

Nice to see Nani getting his just desserts, though. Awesome bit of play-acting trying to get out of a card, and then the horror when he sees the colour...priceless.

Nice to see Nani getting his just desserts, though. Awesome bit of play-acting trying to get out of a card, and then the horror when he sees the colour...priceless.

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Shouldn't all the players haranguing the referee have been at least carded too?

Grum - If we started enforcing that then every match would have to be abandoned as there would be no-one left on the pitch by half time. I did enjoy Rio's slow hand clapping of the ref at the end 😆

[i] If we started enforcing that then every match would have to be abandoned as there would be no-one left on the pitch by half time.[/i]

Personally, so be it; they need to start enforcing the rules around dissent. It's completely endemic, right down to children's leagues, and that's not a good thing.

It'll be carnage for about two weeks, and then they'll learn pretty quick to keep their mouths shut.

Grum - If we started enforcing that then every match would have to be abandoned as there would be no-one left on the pitch by half time.

Yup, but not only would that be pretty funny, IHN is right - if the rules were actually enforced then people would start sticking to them.

"If we started enforcing that then every match would have to be abandoned as there would be no-one left on the pitch by half time"

Only if it was ManU/Chelsea game ... 😆

Shouldn't all the players haranguing the referee have been at least carded too?

The ref knew he'd made the wrong decision, guilt made him overlook the rightful indignation of the players.

The ref knew he'd made the wrong decision, guilt made him overlook the rightful indignation of the players.

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I'm not arguing the point. I think they should enforce it rigorously

I also think that players guilty of 'simulation' should have the injury they're simulating inflicted on them. So if you go down like you've been shot, then....

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@Portlyone That gets a 😆 from me too.

Surprised baconface didn't try and blame the ref for his teams shortcomings. 🙄
Why do the players have 'respect' on their shirts when they don't show any?