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She is early 60's and has some pretty bad mental and physical issues. On top of that she had been keeping her brother recover from cancer. She is one of lives genuinely good people.
She went to have her vaccine and at the entrance said she is unable to wear masks. The lady attending said it should be ok but after queuing inside she finally got to the point of vaccination and was told she had to wear a mask. She put one on but literally passed out after a couple of minutes.
She is really upset of course and suffice to say after being treated for pneumonia twice over the last 12 months she really wants to get the vaccine. I am not aware of here being officially exempt from mask use.
Is there any chance that the "mask" below would suffice? I saw a worker at my jab centre wearing similar but wondered of stw could aid my thought process here?
As always, huge thanks guys.
Poop - I’m not aware masks being mandatory anywhere if you are medically exempt.
If it was my centre , if she turned up & asked to speak to the clinical lead, we would find a way.
In the uk there we only say “face coverings” for the public, so ^^^^ should be fine anywhere.
Thanks mate, I wasn't with her for the jab as she isn't in my bubble or anything so couldn't assist unfortunately.
Ill order her the above or similar and see how she gets on. She doesn't do the 'net.
No idea about ^ that mask
Seems to me though that pretty much everyone's (genuine, not Mr Fox and his chums) problem with masks is psychological rather than physiological. Maybe she could get a mask and try wearing it at home to get comfortable with it ?
- Pretty sure they don't inhibit airflow enough to be dangerous to almost literally anyone, but slow and steady breathing is what's needed, not anxious gasping that clasps the mask to your face and worsens yr anxiety
The face shields protect against sprayed bodily fluids, but you'll notice the big gap around the mouth - they're not particularly effective against particles suspended in air.
Get her to ring her GP for advice. Probably best to recognise that it's at least partly an anxiety issue. You never know, GP might be kind and do it outdoors.
I totally agree, it's of little use practically but then so is a textile fabric face covering of course.
^^That sounds argumentative, I don't mean it tho sound that way, genuinely.Lol
She is having a lot of trouble getting through to her doctors apparently, understandable at the moment.
Ill order the face covering gizmo as a back up and see.
Thanks again.
If she was clear that she wanted it then they could've administered it whilst she was passed out?
she finally got to the point of vaccination and was told she had to wear a mask. She put one on but literally passed out after a couple of minutes.
That's not at the point of vaccination then, is it? It's at least a couple of minutes prior.
The vaccinations round here are "come in... stab... sod off", the entire process from arrival to departure takes about 30 seconds.
I think she's telling you porkies. "Cannot" and "doesn't want to" aren't synonyms.
I vaccinated people who weren’t wearing masks at one of the sessions I did a while back. No one seemed to be questioning it.
If she was clear that she wanted it then they could’ve administered it whilst she was passed out?
I think its difficult to assume consent from someone who said yes I want it then passed out when it got close to the point. At the point someone is lying on the floor I think the focus becomes their immediate care not vaccination. There is of course an irony that by having dealt with it this way they have exposed more people to her on multiple occasions.
she finally got to the point of vaccination and was told she had to wear a mask. She put one on but literally passed out after a couple of minutes.
That’s not at the point of vaccination then, is it? It’s at least a couple of minutes prior.
Are you being belligerent or just pedantic? I think the context is quite clear, once at the point in space where she was going to be stabbed with a needle, rather than the point in time.
The vaccinations round here are “come in… stab… sod off”, the entire process from arrival to departure takes about 30 seconds.
Have you been vaccinated? That's not the experience that's been reported to me (3 different mass vaccination centre experiences). I'm told it is very slick and efficient, but its not "give me your arm, off you go". There's paperwork, there's questions (reasons not to have the vaccine like being pregnant), then explicit consent, then wiping the arm, stabbing you, and then a brief conversation about self-care for possible minor side effects and if you drove yourself there a 15-minute wait before you can leave the building.
I think she’s telling you porkies. “Cannot” and “doesn’t want to” aren’t synonyms.
Wow, seems a bit harsh for a forum that's normally so hot on MH issues. If someone has anxiety to the point of passing out from wearing a mask I'll take that as a synonym for cannot wear a mask.
The scenario is exactly as poly describes as my friend was going to have the jab at the same centre I went to.
Socially distanced queue inside the large building's entrance.
Then into a small room to give details to a person with your records on a PC.
Short wait in a corridor giving consent etc. to person with paperwork on clip board.
Into a big room with socially distanced seating for injection and mandatory 15 min wait.
It was at the room with the person at the PC she had to put on the mask.
Anyway, thanks guys, got a bit of clarification and don't want the thread to go into unknown territory.
I'll report so a passing mod can lock it perhaps as it's served its purpose?
Again, thanks for the assistance as always.
Does appear quite odd. At the point she passed out, it would have needed recording as an incident, and hopefully the site manager or clinical lead would have got involved.
Our teams would have done their best to assist, work out the issues and a solution, not just send someone away without any further guidance etc.
What region are you in OP ? If it’s where I am involved I would be able to get you some answers as to what to do next.