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including usual amount of stw abuse
Its not abuse to accurately describe someone and if you wish for others to stop calling you a liar #jambyfact then the way to do it is to stop lying* and to use actual facts rather than do it and moan that they are rude when you do it.
Camerons actons had nothing to do with bravery they were an attempt to get as many voted as he could by offering a policy he did not want to do and did not expect to be in a position to deliver on.
It was initially politically astute [ like Mays election call] but ended up with him being hoisted up by his own petard and then having to resign
Stupid is way way closer than brave. I
* they are not mistakes as when corrected you continue to say it.
Yes some people are rude to you but if you spout things that re not factually true in any environment eventually folk will be a little bit robust in the manner they address you.
As chancellor, wrecking the strong economy inherited from Major, selling all our gold, abolishing tax relief on dividends in pension funds which caused a collapse of many pension schemes and the final nail in the coffin of final salary pensions. Just for starters.
Brown actually ran a budget surplus for a while, which I think is more than the Major government managed. As for selling gold, the silly boy failed to predict the increase in value after he sold because he failed to predict 9/11. Definitely time for pitchforks.
Pensions are arguable, but the much greater damage to company schemes was done by the tories, when they effectively prevented companies from running surpluses, which meant the schemes were no longer viable the minute the economy downturned.
Brave as in a panic move because he thought he could win back UKIP defectors by promising a referendum, but assumed they'd win a significant remain. His bluff was called. Whether you're for or against, result was a disaster for him, hence jumping ship when it didn't go the way he hoped. Don't blame him for not wanting to deal with Brexit. So now we have Mrs May to pick up the mess (who also didn't back Brexit originally).
p.s. No need for the Jambabash here. Only been opinions posted here (above is just my opinion and no we won't all agree), not #jambafact 😉 . Don't care who's said what on other threads.
Major brought the National Lottery to the UK.
Lottery funding to British athletes improved our performaces at the Olympics etc.
Enormous hauls of cycling and sailing Gold medals and in many other sports was enabled due to that funding mechanism. Before lottery funding we sometimes only got one gold. Beside medals its also supported alot of infrastructure investment.
An example of a political decision hugely and positively changing the lives of others.
Coyote we have nealry 900 pages "discussing" the topic (including usual amount of stw abuse etc)
there's a reason people use #jambafact...you do realise that, right?
If people are going to haul Brown over the coals for the Gold thing, can we just bear in mind that
1. It wasn't his idea, he was acting on advise from the Treasury that gold (as a commodity) is unstable compared with long term govt bonds if you're relying on them for reserves.
2. The long term performance of the bonds that were bought with the proceeds of the sale have more or less made up the difference of "loss" of the sale of gold.
3. The auction of cellular (3g from memory) was expected to make 8bn, it made something like 25bn, more than making up for the gold sale, it's rare that it even gets a mention when people talk about Brown selling off all our gold (which he didn't).
4. At worst the Gold thing had a neutral effect.
Jim Hacker deserves a mention.
Hacker v Harriet Jones?
Apart from those two, none of the above.