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We are supposed to be holidaying on Mull in April. Based on current advice and if none of us are ill, should we still go?

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Posted : 17/03/2020 11:26 am
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Probably not. Unless the advice changes by then.

 
Posted : 17/03/2020 11:42 am
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Self catering in a cottage and such like or a hotel?

 
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We were also due to be holidaying in Mull in April. Sincerely doubt that it will happen.

 
Posted : 17/03/2020 11:58 am
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On a lot of highland pages people are worried about a sudden influx of tourists who are not going abroad. As their infrastructure is so poor already. Plus it's an aging population.

 
Posted : 17/03/2020 12:01 pm
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Self-catering cottage.

We don't do any eating/drinking out. We just do little walks/drives/rides and don't come into contact with people much.

Only contact with locals will be the village shop for supplies.

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Posted : 17/03/2020 12:19 pm
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I can foresee the only holidays I will be taking this year will be sailing - stock up on food & wine before I go and not step ashore until time to come home. Plan is to find many more small anchorages throughout the Hebrides. Just had upgraded anchoring equipment delivered accordingly.

 
Posted : 17/03/2020 12:19 pm
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Was thinking the same thing Scruff. I've been remembering 14 months ago when we were cruising around the BVI having the most wonderful time and thinking that it might be a really good solution now.
But of course if you fall in on the boat you tend to be a long way from any help.

As it is we'll probably be spending quite a lot of the summer at our holiday place by the beach - but I can't decide whether it's going to be busy or quiet. Are the holiday house rentals (big business where we're going) going to fall flat because of the potential for infection from previous occupants of your rental house?

 
Posted : 17/03/2020 12:30 pm
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Finding an official copy of advice for all seems a bit difficult but

"People should stop all unnecessary travel"

So no, per the "advice" today, you shouldn't go, it's not essential and it's not ambiguous.

That said the provenance of said advice is possibly a bit more debatable.

 
Posted : 17/03/2020 12:33 pm
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We were meant to be going to CenterParcs in April.

So far they have thoughtfully said we can postpone it but if the week we choose is more expensive then we have to pay the difference. And no option for a refund.

Only they could manage to rob you before you've even set foot in the place.

 
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Plan is to find many more small anchorages throughout the Hebrides.

If you don't already know it may I recommend Leaves From Rowan's Log?
A Glasgow surgeon and family go sailing I think in 1920s. Lots of small anchorages listed.

Just checked prices online. Wish I still had my copy.

 
Posted : 17/03/2020 12:38 pm
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I don't really see that it makes much difference if we are at home, or in a self-catering cottage.
The only place we will come into contact with people is on the journey:
* couple of service stations - don't need to go in.
* ferry terminal and ferry

TBH I'm thinking that we won't be going but I'm in denial. One of us is guaranteed to have symptoms just before we are booked to go. 🙁

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Only they could manage to rob you before you’ve even set foot in the place.

Getting bent over is a traditional part of the experience, I believe.

 
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If you don’t already know it may I recommend Leaves From Rowan’s Log?
A Glasgow surgeon and family go sailing I think in 1920s. Lots of small anchorages listed.

Just checked prices online. Wish I still had my copy.

Cheers, not heard of that one but will stick up a watch list on ebay. I've been slowly working my way through Hamish Haswell Smith's list of islands over the last 10 years and this year going to try out the new Antares charts as well.

Normally we'd try to get as much provisioning in the wee local shops to help the islands economies as much as possible. Likely that wont be possible this year.

 
Posted : 17/03/2020 12:45 pm
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Same situation here, but cottage in Cornwall. Our plan was to drive down there, stay away from people as much as possible and walk the dogs on empty beaches.

I think we'd be more isolated down there than here, so our plan is still to go.

… but of course there is still a question mark over it. We'd be travelling, and going to shops to stock up even if now avoiding cafes and restaurants etc.

 
Posted : 17/03/2020 12:46 pm
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Getting bent over is a traditional part of the experience, I believe.

Yup...
https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/lottery-winner-blows-it-all-on-week-in-center-parcs-20180604173856

 
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Had planned to go to NW Highlands riding at Easter, looks very unlikely right now - but more detailed advice may be forthcoming.

Current measures are a bit of a blunt instrument, more texture will be required to ameliorate the economic impact where sensible IMO.

 
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Getting bent over is a traditional part of the experience, I believe.

Yup…

Perhaps they could still allow guests to go in through the back door, as a safety precaution?

 
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Perhaps they could still allow guests to go in through the back door, as a safety precaution?

Perchy, your crown has slipped...

 
Posted : 17/03/2020 12:54 pm
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Self-catering cottage.

We don’t do any eating/drinking out. We just do little walks/drives/rides and don’t come into contact with people much.

Only contact with locals will be the village shop for supplies.

So self isolation in a holiday let. Many I’ve seen are saying they’ll stay open and will deep clean before the next guests arrive.

 
Posted : 17/03/2020 12:57 pm
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don’t really see that it makes much difference if we are at home, or in a self-catering cottage.
The only place we will come into contact with people is on the journey:

Ummmmmm. Except for the squad of people that used the cottage the week before you.....

 
Posted : 17/03/2020 1:04 pm
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We have a birthday/wedding anniversary weekend booked at end of March. Wife really wants to go, I’m doubtful. Like others we would likely stay in to cook and just walk the dogs in the day. It’s mid wales so not crowded. Don’t know what the right thing to do is

 
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Due to be in the Lakes. Half of me thinks its as good a place to be as anywhere as long as we keep to ourselves, half of me thinks we shouldn't go anywhere at all unnecessarily. Doubt we will get a refund, it's AirBnB and maybe their only income.

 
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Similarly we have 10 days on the south coast booked for May. We won't be taking mum with us now that's definite, but I'm hoping wife, 2 girls and I can go and spend the time playing on the beach, or playing games in a different house at least! May need to book the Asda (sorry, I meant Waitrose, obvs) delivery now

 
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If I had to guess I'd say the travel thing is more about ensuring the population is roughly where you expect them to be when you're allocating resources and planning for spread and things.

You Personally disappearing to Mull on your jollies isn't a problem, half the population of London thinking sod this and spreading round the country though makes modeling the spread very difficult and also means all those nurses and doctors you have sitting round charring Cross actually needed to be in Mull and Iona instead.

It's not about you being more or less at risk on a 3 hour drive or in a cottage as opposed to your flat.

If you're minded to care about the advice you are, if you're not you're not but it's not got any grey on that particular bit.

 
Posted : 17/03/2020 1:14 pm
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Trip to the Quantocks in late April here - booked because we weren't sure how the international travel situation would be. We went through an agent and their website says we can reschedule within 12 months for no fee, with 48 hrs notice needed. Happy enough with that so staying flexible for now but as with others it'd just be 2 of us keeping to ourselves so on the face of it there's a minimal risk. However a few thousand 'just the 2 of us' doing the same sort of thing makes it a bit more significant.

 
Posted : 17/03/2020 1:14 pm
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Come mid to end April, the decision probably won't be on your hands anyway.

Way I see things. We're just at the voluntary stage of things. I'm pretty sure the more Draconian measures, that oddly everyone seems to be bursting for, are in the pipe line.

 
Posted : 17/03/2020 1:18 pm
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sisters wedding in april cancelled/postponed.
trip to france in may expected to cancelled but waiting for brittany ferries to cancel so i can get 100% back rather than cancelling now and losing deposit (£150)

supposed to have a week in MiL's static caravan down in cornwall second week of easter. on the coast with easy access to beach/coast path so will take view closer to the time. no financial impact if we don't go and its only an hour or so drive away so no big undertaking.

 
Posted : 17/03/2020 1:26 pm
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So far they have thoughtfully said we can postpone it but if the week we choose is more expensive then we have to pay the difference.

Seems fair enough, in a normal year there would be a re-booking fee as well (as we do, this year we aren't). If you want it to be there in the future cash-flow will need to be maintained to preserve the business. Until the government enforces the shutdown businesses have to do al they can to stay solvent and trading. Once we are ordered to shut continuity insurance has to pay up  and all except the insurance companies are happy.

I'm of the opinion that if your uninfected and no underlying health problems we should carry on using pubs, cafes and restaurants otherwise they will be gone when the all-clear sounds.

 
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trip to france in may expected to cancelled but waiting for brittany ferries to cancel so i can get 100% back rather than cancelling now and losing deposit (£150)

There's a good chance ferries won't cancel unless it's passenger only as they're fairly important to keeping food on tables amongst other things.
If it were me I'd wait ant cancel as late as possible but I'd be resigned to losing my £150.

Once we are ordered to shut continuity insurance has to pay up

Good luck with that. Our insurance at work has already clarified business continuity and loss won't be covered as they consider it Force Majeure. We won't be in a position to contest that.

 
Posted : 17/03/2020 1:35 pm
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Week in Cornwall at the start of April booked and paid in full.
Half of me is thinking don't risk it while the other half is thinking it's more isolated than our house so should be ok from an infection point of view.
Was looking forward to spending the week wandering about and eating out every day. If we do go the eating out bit won't be happening and most likely all the touristy places will be closed. So that just leaves wandering about, and we can do that at home.
I really don't know what to do. If we voluntarily cancel we will lose all the money. If we go we could end up imprisoned in a houseboat that's about a third of the size of our house, and won't that be fun with a couple of teenagers.

 
Posted : 17/03/2020 1:36 pm
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brittany ferries are already cancelling a large number of services. I have a flexi ticket so can cancel with only the deposit loss right up until the day before sailing so I'll hold out for while.
I could claim it back on our insurance policy but with an excess of £100 there seems little point. we not losing out on anything else, we were staying with family out there.

 
Posted : 17/03/2020 1:38 pm
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"If I had to guess I’d say the travel thing is more about ensuring the population is roughly where you expect them to be when you’re allocating resources and planning for spread and things."

Sorry, but this sounds like complete nonsense. Have you just made this up, or do you have any facts to support this? The "travel thing" is, exactly what we are told it is, an attempt to slow the virus.

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We're living in Spain at the moment and were due to go back to the UK at the start of April for my middle brother's wedding. That has been called off now and I'm expecting the Ryanair email to say our flights have been cancelled any day now.

Got a stag week in Ibiza for my younger brother and his wedding in August so really hoping that this doesn't drag on until then but it is what it is. I think from tomorrow I am going to avoid the news.

Worst thing is that I can't even ride my bike!!!!!

 
Posted : 17/03/2020 1:41 pm
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Seems fair enough, in a normal year there would be a re-booking fee as well

I don't mind that bit so much but they won't allow a refund which I think is unfair.

 
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Have you just made this up, or do you have any facts to support this? The “travel thing” is, exactly what we are told it is, an attempt to slow the virus.

If I had to guess

Can I suggest Google translate if you're struggling with that bit?

In a completely unrelated role I do quite a bit of logistical planning and things and people not being where they're supposed to be is a royal pita. But it's unrelated, it informs my guess but, it's a guess.

I'd have to ask though, which facts support your own guess that you've not only not qualified as such but stated "is" the case?

 
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Was due to go to fuerteventura tomorrow, that was cancelled at the weekend so we book a week in Cornwall instead. That was before they announced no non-essential travel.

We are staying in an apartment, I have contacted the owners today and they said they are cleaning to guidelines and it is business as usual for now.

We don't tend to eat out much so are still going (unless anything changes today)

 
Posted : 17/03/2020 1:54 pm
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Ft Bill for skiing, running and biking from Saturday; we've a cottage booked and have every intention of going. Hopefully they'll have bog roll....
To a sensible extent, life needs to go on and the economy needs to keep turning; I'm hoping that the Crannog restaurant will still be open so that we can offer them some business.
UK government guidance not to travel seems to now be more specific as of lunchtime today and covers non-essential overseas travel.

 
Posted : 17/03/2020 2:09 pm
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We have a week's camping in the Lakes booked for may half term, I bet that won't happen. Plus a festival in July, I bet that's getting canned too.

We very nearly booked a week away in June in Northumberland at the weekend, didn't in the end because we were fannying with dates. It's not getting booked now.

MrsIHN was due to go to Edinburgh this weekend with a group of mates for someone's 30th. That, obviously, isn't happening.

 
Posted : 17/03/2020 2:10 pm
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UK government guidance not to travel seems to now be more specific as of lunchtime today and covers non-essential overseas travel.

...on top of, not instead of, the existing "no essential travel" advice issued yesterday

 
Posted : 17/03/2020 2:12 pm
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Once we are ordered to shut continuity insurance has to pay up

'Vast majority' of UK firms not protected for shut downs - insurers

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More now on the issue of whether venues in the UK can claim on insurance if they're not ordered to close by the government.
Pubs, restaurants and theatres in the UK are hitting out at Boris Johnson's advice to the public yesterday - telling them not to visit the venues, without ordering businesses to close.
Many from the entertainment industry say without a direct order from government, they will not be protected by their insurance.

But the Association of British Insurers claims most companies would not be covered anyway, even if there were to be a dictat from Downing Street.

In a statement, the organisation says: "Standard business interruption cover - the type the majority of businesses purchase - does not include forced closure by authorities as it is intended to respond to physical damage at the property which results in the business being unable to continue to trade.

"A small minority of typically larger firms might have purchased an extension to their cover for closure due to any infectious disease. In this instance, an enforced closure could help them make the claim.

"But this will depend on the precise nature of the cover they have purchased, so they should check with their insurer or broker to see if they are covered."

Need to be reading the small print I think.

 
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To a sensible extent, life needs to go on and the economy needs to keep turning; I’m hoping that the Crannog restaurant will still be open so that we can offer them some business.

Yeah, I'm in a bit of a quandary here in Aviemore. There's a massive reliance on the hospitality industry. Most business run very lean and most workers are on or near minimum wage and low-hour contracts. A complete shut-down will devastate the area. On the one hand, I feel I should be still going to the local pubs/cafes etc in order to keep them ticking over. On the other there's the advice not to - and the health risk of doing so - plus the personal financial cost at a time when I feel I need to be cutting back. Lots of venues are spacing out tables, restricting numbers, implementing deep-cleaning routines.

We'd also been planning some time away in the campervan - again, partly to help struggling businesses in other areas -  but don't know if that's now sensible and, if we do, are more likely to self-isolate anyway.

 
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I live in Seahouses, Northumberland.

This could be absolutely devastating for the whole village. The vast majority of pubs, hotels and cafes are family owned businesses. They will not to be able to keep paying staff if they have no income. I predict the vast majority will be bankrupt by the end of the summer if the restrictions remain. I can't see any other outcome.

 
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I cannot see any foreign holidays happening this year. We booked a week's camping for September last night, if things have calmed down a bit in this country then I imagine UK holiday accommodation will be at a premium later in the year (if international travel is still advised against and the UK industry has survived).

 
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Center Parcs have not long emailed us to say all UK villages close this Friday until 16th April minimum and so we have to rebook and get £100 discount, or get a full refund.

Never entered my head that CP would go into lockdown. 🙁

 
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Am in a real quandary about this one. I’m lucky enough to live by the beach in Cornwall, I’ll keep myself away from people out on my surf ski or paddle board. We have one hospital which is already at crisis point. I’m concerned about lots of people arriving to holiday/isolate in an area with an aged population. I’m exposed enough as a secondary teacher but others I know are keeping away from others on the beach. This is especially concerning with people coming in from London where according to the chief science and medical officers the population has greater exposure already. The earlier poster nailed it describing how large scale movement will affect the accuracy of the modelling. There was a rumour a couple of weeks ago of shops in Polzeath closing due to a city gent coming down to self isolate and visiting the shops.

It is clear that the advice about not making unnecessary journeys should include holidays. They are not essential, they are desirable. However I have lots of friends who’s livelihoods depend on tourists arriving, hence the quandary I find myself in.
Not sure I’ve added to the discussion!

 
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On the point about people moving around and predicted demand on services...

Are services in tourist areas not already designed to cope with an influx for parts of the year?

So if, for example, nobody goes to Cornwall, there will be over capacity there and under capacity in the areas where the non-holidaymakers have stayed at home?

Hope that makes sense.

 
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Plan is to find many more small anchorages throughout the Hebrides.

If you don’t already know it may I recommend Leaves From Rowan’s Log?
A Glasgow surgeon and family go sailing I think in 1920s. Lots of small anchorages listed.

Just checked prices online. Wish I still had my copy.

True story. That was written by my great grandfather Dr R Carslaw. I only found out when my mum bought me a copy ten years ago when I coincidentally named my son Rowan. She was born in Helensburgh into a long line of sea-going folk. I now live in Oxford - the place the UK just about the furthest from any coast!

 
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Services in Cornwall aren’t even scaled for the people living here let alone for the influx!! Treliske Hospital is the only major hospital and is constantly in crisis despite their dedicated staff. So no there won’t be over capacity!

 
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Are services in tourist areas not already designed to cope with an influx for parts of the year?

To an extent, yes. Belford Hospital in Fort William deals with all the holidaymakers who get leg injuries skiing, climbers falling off etc. Aviemore has a (unique?) GP practice with some overnight beds for much the same reason. However, rural locations tend not to have the same facilities as large urban or regional hospitals to deal with the longer-term sick and that would be very relevant for the likes of ITU, ventilators etc.

 
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Our ski holiday next week is cancelled. Toying with taking the campervan to wales and riding. In 2 minds. Go as we will be not near very many people or dont go

 
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Got a 4 night break in Snowdonia planned for mid-April, one hotel for a night can be cancelled up until a week before with a full refund, the other 3 nights have been secured with a £50 deposit so barely any loss if I do have to cancel.

Also got a trip planned mid may - already booked, and another end of May - Dartmoor and Wales again.

Self isolation, WFH, lockdown, all I can cope with. But I've been planning this years MTB trips for bloody ages!!! 🙁

Unfortunately they're all 'group' guided trips or staying in places with other MTB'ers so pretty hard to avoid contact. But we shall see.

 
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I am intending to go both backpacking and bike packing trips in the spring. As things stand I still plan to do both trips but will assess again nearer the time

However be will be wild camping and not using public transport

 
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We’d also been planning some time away in the campervan – again, partly to help struggling businesses in other areas – but don’t know if that’s now sensible and, if we do, are more likely to self-isolate anyway.

We booked a week’s camping for September last night, if things have calmed down a bit in this country then I imagine UK holiday accommodation will be at a premium later in the year (if international travel is still advised against and the UK industry has survived).

Yep, this was the first year I had planned a proper credit card tour (for September) which I was really looking forward to but which is dependant on some fairly remote hotels etc. Think I'll book now, only one of them has a policy of keeping some of the deposit (I think, the lady on the phone wasn't clear) so I should only be out £50 or so if it goes wrong. Or I could man up and unearth all the camping gear again but I had been looking forward to some longer distances and easier climbs on a light bike!

 
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I've a fair few hols booked, apart from a week in Holland in July, which I'm pretty sure won't happen, Arran, Mull, Belfast, I'm quite happy for the places booked to keep the cash and defer to a later date.

Tough times.

 
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We have some close friends who live in the states and their daughter is due to get married in Warwickshire in the middle of June at a lovely barn conversion.
Venue is paid for, deposits for catering dj's etc, hotels booked and flights paid for.
They messaged last night and they still think it will go ahead!!!

 
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Got a week at a YHA in the Peak with all the family at Easter. Paid in full already, I've written that off there's no way we'll be going. The chance of getting through a week with 3 little ones without at least one of us developing a fever / cough is slim to nil.

Summer holiday is in the UK, deposit paid with the balance in July. Ironically it's part of a 70th birthday celebration! Looking suspect at the moment but we'll wait and see.

 
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BJ mentioned non essential travel the other day but can’t find it in official advice except for commuting and using public transport. It does say to minimise contact with friends and family though. We are due in Saunton Sands (from Plymouth) over the Easter bank holiday with extended family in a chalet. Can’t see us going for any number of social distancing reasons especially as my Wife is a front line nurse.

 
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We have a cottage booked for mid June in Nairn. Still planning to go. I rate the risk of infection from the occupants the previous week as low. Certainly less thasn the risk I will take between now and then at work ( involves going in and out of hospitals though not frontline and sitting in cars with various other workers) and in normal living like shopping etc. My wife works in a shop which at present remains open so also in daily contact with the public. If we both haven't had the virus by then the risk can't be that high. Most likely we will have had it and recovered as we are both under 60 with no serious underlying health issues. Our son thinks he has it already. He lives in Cambridge and suspects e caught from a workmate with an Italian girlfriend who returned from Italy recently but who knows?)

Hopefully the peak will be past in 3 months anyway.

Obviously should either of us develop symptoms in the previous week or two we wouldn't go. Hopefully the lock down will have been relaxed by then, if not hillwailking and beach walks with the dog will work.

 
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Our three hols (Easter, Whit and summer) are all in the caravan, but can't help thinking sites will shut if this thing progresses. There's part of me wants to go, those areas and businesses will need money as certainly all the overseas tourists won't be going to the Lakes this year.

 
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@gobuchul - do you think the town will be effectively shut down for Easter?

We're supposed to be staying at Annstead Farm in our campervan. I guess in the absence of direct action it's hard for businesses to preemptively close and turn away revenue.

Anyone got a view on CalMac? I'm guessing our trip to Uist in June won't happen also

 
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CalMac? Surely will keep running. The islanders need to eat/get fuel delivered etc. Worst case scenario IMO is reduced frequency and booking needed for cars.

 
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-51937753

Worth a read - applies to holiday cottages just as much as second homes.

 
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@gobuchul – do you think the town will be effectively shut down for Easter?

At the moment it's business as usual.

However, I think it will be like everywhere else and the pubs and restaurants will be closed soon.

It's going to be disastrous for the village. Apart from farming and a handful of lobster boats, it depends completely on tourism.

 
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Only they could manage to rob you before you’ve even set foot in the place.

Not just them. Currently, it's not possible to get a refund on Eurotunnel standard tickets, even though it's illegal for me to go to France.

 
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I am having the same debate about daytrips from Perth to Fort William to ski at Nevis.
Last season, Cairngorm funicular debacle meant no skiing despite having bought a season pass.
This season, initially no snow, then loads, but run of poor weather weekends. This is likely to be the first "nice" weekend.
In addition, French ski trip cancelled.

 
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Have just booked our September trip, most places offering free cancellation anyway and those that wouldn't normally (Glenelg Inn) are currently not taking deposits as obviously they understand the current scenario.

Generally positive vibes on phone, was worried for Glenelg Inn especially but they can obviously afford to close for a week or two to ride it out.

At this moment and time the biggest issue might be the train journey to our start/finish point, desperate times if we're still advised against public transport by September...

 
Posted : 18/03/2020 2:56 pm
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My query about CalMac is that they could cancel tourist bookings if instructed to. We've got a cottage booked.

Any indications that this could happen?

 
Posted : 18/03/2020 3:24 pm
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Letting agent has told us that there is no chance of a refund or change of dates.

 
Posted : 18/03/2020 3:24 pm
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Ruda in Croyde have emailed to say it's business as usual for our 3 days away next weekend.

 
Posted : 18/03/2020 3:35 pm
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-51937753

Worth a read – applies to holiday cottages just as much as second homes.

Hmm. I can almost see their point - but we pay 150% council tax yet use about 10% of the resources so I think trying to stop people going to their own homes is a bit much.
Plus Easter is an important time for the vast majority of tourism fed businesses in these locations...

 
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@highlandman I'm ashamed to say that panic buying has broken out in Lochaber too, so while you will probably be able to get what you need it might mean visiting several shops.

 
Posted : 18/03/2020 4:07 pm
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Not just them. Currently, it’s not possible to get a refund on Eurotunnel standard tickets, even though it’s illegal for me to go to France.

Easyjet can trump that, after an hour long call, they just tried to charge me £40 to cancel my flights (there isn't a button on the website to do it - I guess because I checked in 3 weeks ago). No refund, I just have to pay an extra £40. My insurance won't pay out unless I have proof of cancellation. Lols.

On the flip side, we just (this morning) booked a week in a house in Devon for 2 weeks time. Middle of no-where, can fill the car with enough food for the week and hang out as a group of mates watching the world go to shit. Fully flexible, so we can get a refund up to the day before. Half the economic issues are going to be caused by folks not going around their regular business when they otherwise could, I see no reason not to go at the moment

 
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Mister P.... Did Ruda send a corona virus specific email?
I'm off down there on Friday but hadn't heard a thing so rang them today. Was also told that at the moment things were staying as normal. I'm presuming the club house and swimming pool will be shut but that doesn't make any difference to me as I'll be on my own in the caravan anyway. It might seem unreasonable but I want to go to chill out in the sea and get away from the mass hysteria for a couple of days. It'll still be here when I get back.

 
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A couple of points here, based on what I've seen in the Spanish media:

* When the shit hit the fan and the lockdown was imminent a whole load of people hurried out of Madrid and down to their second homes by the coast. End result: Madrid was a virus hotspot, now the coast has it too 🙄

* I considered going, and thank god I didn't. I've got a small flat near the coast, and it's lovely when the weather's nice. And you're allowed on the beach. Or out of your flat, even. If the UK does go to full lockdown (and who knows?) where would you rather be, in your comfortable large house with a garden, or a small holiday cottage served by a tiny local shop with possible supply problems? (I'm exagerrating here for effect, of course, but it's something to consider).

 
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Not quite a holiday, but we're in the process of selling our house and hoping to self-build in Scotland. I'm hoping that the lock-down is delayed for another week or two to give me a chance to scout-out some plots and maybe getting the buying process underway - even just to park our campervan up in our own plot and while away the summer.
According to some of the local FB groups, they're wary of incomers bringing the virus to the islands because they have little medical support, but at the same time it'll be difficult for many businesses because they're totally reliant on tourism.

 
Posted : 18/03/2020 5:41 pm
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Worth a read – applies to holiday cottages just as much as second homes.

Not sure it does. Second homes have lower occupancy in summer than holiday cottages. Holiday cottages are generally full during summer anyway so no change. Most people (me anyway) would cut short a week long cottage holiday if anyone fell ill and head home to use my own GP anyway. In fact as my GP has gone to telephone consultations only we could start the process before driving home.

As a matter of interest I checked the website for the cottage we have booked in June. Still fully boooked until late August at the moment.

 
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Wow. Why are so many people finding it difficult to understand the very clear guidance to avoid non-essential travel? Travelling for a holiday is not essential. Ever. It doesn’t matter a jot if you think you will keep yourself to yourself and just stick to the beach or whatever. By travelling you risk transferring C19 from one bubble of the population to another. You put the population at the holiday location at risk as well as your local population when you return. And anyone else you come into contact with (or leave the virus for) during the journey there and back.

What if one of your party goes ill while away?? Or during the journey.

The simulations at this LINK give a simplified idea as to why the Government are asking people not to travel. By travelling you are one of the people moving the UK from the 4th simulation (Maximum social distancing) to the 3rd simulation (lesser social distancing). That means more people will die and more will die quicker, meaning the NHS will struggle to cope. So yet more die.

It’s not difficult. Don’t be a dick selfish. ‘Holiday’ at home and do your bit to stop transferring the virus. The economy will recover but the dead won’t return. Just think, one of the dead could be a member of your family or a friend.

IMO the Government will take direct action if people ignore the very clear guidance not to travel. France and Italy are proof of that.

 
Posted : 18/03/2020 7:34 pm
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Letting company won't let us move dates. Is it just me that thinks that's a bit unfair?

 
Posted : 18/03/2020 7:52 pm
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Is there actually any guidance not to travel within the uk? I cant find any on the government website

 
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