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Agreed, it may offend some of the intelligentsia by using simplistic terms, but anything that results in earlier diagnosis and understanding is better than the alternative.
You should see old style clinical trial informed consent forms, they were shite (some still are), but making stuff understandable is critically important
And so our Tory continues to use incorrect data and claims - another leaflet and adverts online claiming that the 2019 Election Results from a poll (not even the real results) are relevant today in the 2024 election...They claim that they are second to SNP when in reality they are on 4%, not 35% as they claim...
Desperate lies.
A relative has recently broken their hand, but thought the break was in the finger due to being shown an x-ray by a doctor who only referred to the break as being in a metacarpal. But never explained what the metacarpal is! So they were then on the phone to the fracture clinic saying that they were worried about the pain radiating up to the hand, and the nurse on the other end took a tone of "well yeah, obviously". It was only after the call that they had another look at the photo of the x-ray, compared it to a stock image online and realised that they were looking at the bones in the 'meat' of the hand rather than the bones in the fingers.
PS fully agree with TJ on inheritance tax, also as someone who stands to inherit (can see it skipping a generation and going straight to my kids) it is a massive cause of wealth inequality given current house prices. I’d also happily see all assets get used for care, why should someone inherit if the older person needs care they are unwilling to provide?
Nuffield researched this - basically we seem to be moving towards a place where what you inherit defines your future wealth more than what you earn. It is a huge social justice issue, where the wealthy get to keep more of their wealth and pay proportionally less out to society and for personal costs, and those without/low inheritance get to pay proportionally more towards society and personal costs.
https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1808232491636924612
It's still tightened up.
Thank heavens for first-past-the-post eh?
There you go folks. It’s all because the Tories were too ‘woke’. Yes Sue Ellen, that’s the only reasonable conclusion anyone could reach
The battle within the Tory party is going to be all consuming, for quite a while, I wonder if there are actually any grown ups left in the party to steer them?
trying to out-farage farage has resulted in their destruction, the right wing press shows no signs of accepting this so theyll just double down is my prediction
Thank heavens for first-past-the-post eh?
Why? Would Labour having to work with the LibDems & Greens on policy be that bad?
Polling (and voting) would be different with PR as well, of course.
trying to out-farage farage has resulted in their destruction, the right wing press shows no signs of accepting this so theyll just double down is my prediction
I wonder what the outcome will be once the result is announced - depending of course how much they lose by (or God forbid, that they actually squeak a win!). If it'll immediately descend into a full on rats-in-a-sack fight to become leader, if Sunak will hang around long enough for the fallout or if the private jet to California is already waiting at the end of the runway?
I see the Tories have even wheeled out the ‘Let the bodies pile high’ Partygate bloke
And that really is desperate. All the polling shows that one of the main reasons the Tories are so unpopular is because everyone remembers the sick relatives they couldn't visit, the weddings cancelled and the funerals of loved ones they couldn't attend, all while this was going on in Number 10....
Thank heavens for first-past-the-post eh?
Why?
Sorry I should have made it clear. Thank heavens for first-past-the-post because although 40% is exactly the same as Labour got in 2017 this time, due to arithmetic associated with FPTP, if Labour get that share of the vote it will result in a comfortable majority for them.
This I consider to be a good thing. Although I do fully support PR.
So you wouldn’t want Green MPs in government? You’d prefer a Labour majority government based on a minority vote?
jimster01
Just had a look on the tactical voting website, “Not Sure”, West Worcestershire is a tory stronghold. *!!!
Lived in Malvern for 1/2 my life and was always frustrated by this. Michael Spicer was a *.
At least there's a hope that it might change but I would have thought there was more chance of it turning orange than red????
Too late for me to vote to avoid a supermajority. Mandated wokery and surrendering for us all?
Just received an email from the LibDems about “blanket” last minute digital advertising by Labour. Anyone experienced it? Hopefully targeted at swing voters (or possible stay at home voters).
So you wouldn’t want Green MPs in government? You’d prefer a Labour majority government based on a minority vote?
It is pretty clear what I said. I said that I would prefer a Labour majority government based on a 40% minority vote than the situation which occurred in 2017 when Labour got 40% but were in opposition.
I have no idea why you mentioned the Greens. I am a sometime Green voter and I have already stated that I support PR.
when Labour got 40% but were in opposition
Under FPTP. The result could have been very different under PR. A Labour/LibDem/Green block would have been bigger than anything the Tories could muster.
You’d prefer a Labour majority government based on a minority vote?
I prefer Reform having next to no MPs. Of course I'd love the greens and maybe some lib dems to be in govt but for now keeping Reform at bay should be the singular focus and FPTP is currently the best way of doing that. When Reform are long gone and their populist bullshit is marginalised after 10 years of public service improvement and better living standards we can think about PR. Until then though we need to do everything we can to keep Reform as far away from power as possible.
Yes which is why I support PR
@grimep Free Member
Country wants: genuinely right of centre party to replace fake conservatives.Country gets: communism…. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/07/02/labour-inheritance-tax-policy-redistribute-family-money-lea/
😂
I think most people would like far more redistribution policies than just taxing inheritance.
Which would you rather, a new CT scanner, or some insufferable trust funded oik getting Daddy's Ferrari collection?
Country wants: genuinely right of centre party to replace fake conservatives.
In an alternative universe Liz Truss was hugely popular and the Tories were not forced to replace her after 49 days.
I wonder how she's getting on in grimep's alternative universe?
Think it's worth repeating Ernie's point that Starmer's hollowed out labour party and manifesto of 'realistic' policies looks like it's going to get fewer votes than Corbyn the communist's manifesto for socialist revolution. Add to that the highly significant vote for Reform I think it's clear that a significant proportion of the electorate are done with business-as-usual politics and would like something a bit more radical. Labour would do well to take note. For a start they could bin their fiscal conservatism bollocks and immeditely adopt Farage's policies of raising the lower tax band to 20k and stop paying commercial banks interest on QE reserves.
cant think why the tories are going to be wiped out...
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jul/03/list-terrible-policy-conservatives-britain-2010
Nuffield researched this – basically we seem to be moving towards a place where what you inherit defines your future wealth more than what you earn.
I'm a bit surprised by this. Mainly because the average generational inheritance age must be what - late 50s or early 60s? A lot of life has already been lived by then. The STW massive is predominantly middle aged and middle class. How many of us have actually inherited anything yet? We might if it doesn't get eaten up in care home fees etc, but not yet.
For me the much larger disparity is when people are younger - the attitude of the home you grow up in to education, the economic confidence to build up debt and go to university. The bank of mum and dad being able to afford to shout you a house deposit. By the time I'm 60 and do I or I don't inherit a £100K or whatever, the prosperity ship has already sailed. It's icing on a very nice cake rather than an indicator of a life lived in wealth.
adopt Farage’s policies of raising the lower tax band to 20k and stop paying commercial banks interest on QE reserves.
yeah because the markets definitely wouldnt go full Truss on us, especially for the latter!
Agreed with that dazh.
I'm starting to get a bit torn again now. No fan at all of this Labour party but literally hate the Tories to beyond words. I'm a Green at heart.... Macclesfield looks like going to Labour for the first time ever. Only a 9% lead in the polls though and I reckon that that gap will be much closer in reality. Just really really not sure that I can tactically voted for this Labour party. My labour candidate is a Westminster councillor FFS so hardly breaking the 'westminster elite' stereotype.
Think it’s worth repeating Ernie’s point that Starmer’s hollowed out labour party and manifesto of ‘realistic’ policies looks like it’s going to get fewer votes than Corbyn the communist’s manifesto for socialist revolution. Add to that the highly significant vote for Reform I think it’s clear that a significant proportion of the electorate are done with business-as-usual politics and would like something a bit more radical. Labour would do well to take note. For a start they could bin their fiscal conservatism bollocks and immeditely adopt Farage’s policies of raising the lower tax band to 20k and stop paying commercial banks interest on QE reserves.
I see it differently. I look across to Europe (or the US for that matter) and see a swathe of the less sophisticated portion of the voting public having their crotch stroked by the right wing populists. In the UK that's Reform and Braveman's version of the tories. I think in years to come history might suggest that Starmer's dull but not too scary polices saved the UK from itself for at least a few years.
>Just received an email from the LibDems about “blanket” last minute digital advertising by Labour. Anyone
>experienced it? Hopefully targeted at swing voters (or possible stay at home voters).
They have full coverage today (and yesterday) all over the Daily Mail website.
The Daily Mail site was Reform branded on Monday.
Just received an email from the LibDems about “blanket” last minute digital advertising by Labour. Anyone experienced it? Hopefully targeted at swing voters (or possible stay at home voters).
Yea, my feeds full of it.
I'm actually a bit worried as it's a new constituency so I don't think anyone really knows what tactical voting looks like.
GTTO says it would have been Tory last time with Lab in 2nd. Reading next door is Labour. Wokingham was Con, but they lost the council to a Lib/Lab coalition since the last GE. Labour have obviously spent their money online here. The Lib Dems have been leafleting and we had Ed Davey doing Zumba, and the Con's have been out in force knocking on doors (they have a very active local association because they've typically had lots of council seats).
I'm sort of hoping for a large Reform vote to make sure the right is split enough that it's a fair fight.
It's just oh so depressing listening to Labour going on about being realistic, rather than the likes of the Greens or Reform promising the earth, knowing they'll never have to deliver anything anyway, why can't labour just make huge promises for change, instead of being pragmatic before potentially forming a government 😡
why can’t labour just make huge promises for change, i
You mean - why can't labour just lie?
I'm guessing because they'd rather not be found out in 12 months.
I'll flip your position - why can't parties that promise the undeliverable not be struck from the ballot card? It's the populists first and most important weapon.
It’s just oh so depressing listening to Labour going on about being realistic, rather than the likes of the Greens or Reform promising the earth, knowing they’ll never have to deliver anything anyway, why can’t labour just make huge promises for change, instead of being pragmatic before potentially forming a government
Because the RW press would take them to pieces on it, then they'd fail to deliver it, then the Tories would get back in next time around.
The press are terrified by the thought of a big Labour majority - look at the doom-mongering already been printed in block capitals in the Daily Mail, The Telegraph etc. Never underestimate how much the press shape the Government and how ridiculously RW they (many of them) are.
I agree it's depressing, there's no hope, no passion, not much in the way of charisma but it IS realistic. And right now, what we desperately need is a shock dose of realism - not yet more empty promises of sunlit uplands.
I’m a bit surprised by this. Mainly because the average generational inheritance age must be what – late 50s or early 60s? A lot of life has already been lived by then. The STW massive is predominantly middle aged and middle class. How many of us have actually inherited anything yet? We might if it doesn’t get eaten up in care home fees etc, but not yet.
For me the much larger disparity is when people are younger – the attitude of the home you grow up in to education, the economic confidence to build up debt and go to university. The bank of mum and dad being able to afford to shout you a house deposit. By the time I’m 60 and do I or I don’t inherit a £100K or whatever, the prosperity ship has already sailed. It’s icing on a very nice cake rather than an indicator of a life lived in wealth.
I suppose everyone's timings will be different, but ultimately that financial security you refer to in relation to kids and their parents will apply up a generation too. Parents who might be anticipating a windfall in their 60's will be better placed to gift their savings to their kids at 50 to put towards house deposits, university education, etc. Either that or there's nothing stopping the inheritance being split across multiple generations so the kids are getting it directly.
You mean – why can’t labour just lie?
Absolutely this. Remember that the Tories got an 80 seat majority by promising the moon on a stick
Remember all those promised shiny new hospitals? Remember the money that was promised to 'forgotten' northern towns? Remember the 'benefits of Brexit'? Global Britain?
Yeah, well so does everyone else, which is why they're about to be (rightfully) decimated electorally. It was all a pack of undeliverable pie-in-the-sky fantasies and outright lies
If labour does the same, they'll suffer the same fate. Its going to take a decade to even make an impact on 14 years of damage done, so promising you're going to clear it all up in a couple of years is just bollocks and everyone knows its bollocks, because they've had the last 5 years of bollocks and look where we all are
yeah because the markets definitely wouldnt go full Truss on us, especially for the latter!
There are quite a few economists, other financial people and politicians (including Gordon Brown) in favour of it to some degree.
Pretty much every other central bank does a tiered system where only a portion of the reserves gets the full interest rates. The idea of paying interest on them is a relatively new one and one invented during the low interest years so it does deserve review now.
Its going to take a decade to even make an impact o 14 years of damage done
I'm sure they are focusing on quick wins that have the highest profile. What do we think they might be?
What do we think they might be?
Massive injection of cash into the NHS and a pay deal with junior doctors. They'll spend billions paying for people to be treated in private hospitals. That will annoy traditionalists but that and the end to strikes will bring waiting lists down very quickly.
Think we'll also see a huge injection of cash into local authorities. That will filter through to an immediate improvement in local services which will be visible to everyone in their local communities. Suddenly bins will start to be collected on time, streets and parks will be a bit cleaner, and there'll be more xmas decorations (daft I know but it will be noticed).
and look where we all are
Well not in a great place but the 6th largest economy in the world is not in recession and inflation is 2%, so things could be and have been far far worse.
Still, expect very little from a Labour government......"a decade to even make an impact"?
If that attitude prevails I think it is safe to say that Nigel Farage will be a very serious threat in 2029.
The only thing that matters now is 2029, not tomorrow's election which will indisputably result in Keir Starmer becoming PM.
If labour does the same, they’ll suffer the same fate
Only if they never actually tried to do what they promised. Due to their massive lack of ambition or trying to do anything to get any meaningful change that have made sure they don't have to live up to any promises.
The tories could have put more money into northern towns and they could have started building loads of hospitals. They didn't, which is the problem.
If labour does the same, they’ll suffer the same fate. Its going to take a decade to even make an impact on 14 years of damage done
The problem with labour is that as soon as they are in office on Friday they'll see it as job done. What happens after is largely irrelevant to them as all they've ever been bothered about is winning power. Just like with Blair, they will waste the opportunity of a lifetime to actually do anything transformative or long lasting. Binners nicely demonstrates the shocking lack of ambition at the heart of the current labour party. I can only hope that there is still enough residual energy and amibition in the PLP to pressure Starmer into doing something much bigger than his public pronouncements but I'm not optimistic.
Just received an email from the LibDems about “blanket” last minute digital advertising by Labour. Anyone experienced it?
Almost every Youtube ad I've seen past few days has been a Labour one, not seen a single Conservative ad.
I was in local government in 97. Overnight we went from zero money to spend on services to plenty. It made an enormous difference to communitys
You sure you are remembering that right? Remember Brown's promise to follow Tory spending plans for 2 years? I was in state funded teaching in that 2 year wait....I remember the staff meetings discussing what we were going to do when the funding came through. The photocopier literally had to have the dust blown off it and suddenly you could give out handouts and workbooks to do actual learning from. But that was 99 not 97.
Well not in a great place but the 6th largest economy in the world is not in recession and inflation is 2%, so things could be and have been far far worse.
The inflation / growth figures look like a horrible dead cat bounce though.
Inflation is falling rapidly as energy prices fall, which means they could well end up negative. Which is crippling for growth, consumers stop buying as they know prices will be lower tomorrow. Companies stop investing because the ROI calculations tell them their bank account will be worth more than the potential asset.
Growth is tiny, if we're hit with deflation that will certainly be wiped out.
I've said it before, Rishi isn't an idiot, he's a money man, I'm sure he's called the election now for a reason.
You sure you are remembering that right?
Yes.
The problem with labour is that as soon as they are in office on Friday they’ll see it as job done.
You are saying that like is any everyday occurrence that you can reliably see a pattern from. I'm 52 and in my useful memory (i.e. ignoring when I was a toddler) Labour has previously come to power precisely once.
The inflation / growth figures look like a horrible dead cat bounce though.
Inflation is falling rapidly as energy prices fall, which means they could well end up negative. Which is crippling for growth, consumers stop buying as they know prices will be lower tomorrow. Companies stop investing because the ROI calculations tell them their bank account will be worth more than the potential asset
There is an easy solution to that, as neoliberalism has spent 40+ years claiming that wage growth drives inflation, we can surely stave off deflation by increasing wages.
Remember Brown’s promise to follow Tory spending plans for 2 years?
Just as well that Starmer and Reeves haven't sabotaged themselves with that ball and chain then. They've committed to not raising taxes on workers and made conservative noises about spending but AFAIK they haven't committed to spending restrictions. It's literally the only hope I have for this labour government. They know they don't have to be restricted by the nonsense 'country like a household' financial analogy so I'm quietly confident they'll get away with as much spending as they can that will not spook the markets.
I prefer Reform having next to no MPs. Of course I’d love the greens and maybe some lib dems to be in govt but for now keeping Reform at bay should be the singular focus and FPTP is currently the best way of doing that. When Reform are long gone and their populist bullshit is marginalised after 10 years of public service improvement and better living standards we can think about PR. Until then though we need to do everything we can to keep Reform as far away from power as possible.
This reads like dangerous wishful thinking to me. I think it’s also entirely possible that FPTP hands Reform UK a majority in 2029, with our fawning media continuing to fan the flames, the Conservative Party thrashing about for political space between Labour and Reform UK, and Labour themselves increasingly unpopular in our continuing slide into inequality and mass poverty under firmly Reaganite/Thatcherite economic policy and again constantly denigrated by the media as in the late 00s.
38% now ffs.
https://twitter.com/Survation/status/1808427141400330357/blockquote >
there seems to be a surge in reform taking votes who were probably DKs voting labour to give Tories a kickingReform polling very well with 18-24 men, they have a strong tiktok & facebook game & the likes of Andrew Tate are heavily pushing Farage at the moment
this is going to be a problem for the country going forward
https://twitter.com/TateTheTalisman/status/1808251801210081435
consumers stop buying as they know prices will be lower tomorrow.
You are the first person that I have heard raise the spectre of deflation since the global credit crisis. A Labour government dealt with it then and there is no reason why the next Labour government couldn't also deal with it.
Unless you have a problem with budgetary deficits? I don't think the electorate will buy that Tory-LibDem bollocks again, do you?
I think it’s also entirely possible that FPTP hands Reform UK a majority in 2029
How on earth do you think Reform are going to overturn a 200+ majority in 2029 from the position of (probably) having a couple of MPs? Even if they are very lucky and get everything right and continually build support and replace the tories as the effective opposition, it'll still take at least 2 or 3 election cycles to erode Labour's majority to the point where they can win themselves. It would take a revolution to overturn the bias towards labour and the tories that FPTP provides.
They’ll spend billions paying for people to be treated in private hospitals. That will annoy traditionalists but that and the end to strikes will bring waiting lists down very quickly.
Paying billions to private hospitals will make the situation worse not better. 1) there is no spare capacity or very little in private health. 2) private hos[pitals are no able to deal with complex cases, 3) private hospitals are more expensive than the NHS
BMA and the other professional bodies are all telling Streeting the same thing - this is the wrong approach and will make things worse. He has also promised massive reform - which again will make things worse as it sucks up energy, time and money
What is actually needed is to get rid of the remaining nonsense from the fake market and a large injection of cash
Andrew Tate are heavily pushing Farage at the moment
Is Andrew Tate still claiming to be a Muslim?
I suspect that many of his followers are.
Corbyn the communist’s manifesto for socialist revolution.
corbyns manifesto was a perfectly normal (in a European context) social democratic left of centre manifesto
Just as well that Starmer and Reeves haven’t sabotaged themselves with that ball and chain then. They’ve committed to not raising taxes on workers and made conservative noises about spending but AFAIK they haven’t committed to spending restriction
~They have very clearly
I don’t agree with all of this politico-intellectual snobbery against people with lower rates of formal literacy, especially when it comes to their health.
I think initially it was snobbery it was a demonstratable way of showing how poor literacy rates are in this country.
They have very clearly
Have they? Where in the manifesto does it say they will stick to tory spending plans? Reeves is planning a budget in the autumn, that would suggest some significant changes in spending plans, not sticking to what we already have.
corbyns manifesto was a perfectly normal (in a European context) social democratic left of centre manifesto
Err, yeah I know, I was joking.
You are the first person that I have heard raise the spectre of deflation since the global credit crisis. A Labour government dealt with it then and there is no reason why the next Labour government couldn’t also deal with it.
Unless you have a problem with budgetary deficits? I don’t think the electorate will buy that Tory-LibDem bollocks again, do you?
Different causes though.
2008- the problem was the financial industries collapse leading to a crash in the wider economy, and everyone having to cut back which lead to deflation. You can solve that with an injection of cash to cause a bit of inflationary pressure.
Now, deflation is just happening because energy prices have/are dropping, albeit I think we've probably hit the new normal now. The direct solution to that scenario would be to prop up energy prices. Politically that would be impossible, windfall taxes are probably the most palatable proxy. In a closed system you could use that to boost spending on energy intensive things like infrastructure projects, but in the real world probably just as well off spending it on public sector pay rises where the money trickles through quickly to boost the retail side of the economy.
Englishmen watch this video.
Didnt they sod off overseas due to the fact the UK has some inconvenient laws about sexual consent?
corbyns manifesto was a perfectly normal (in a European context) social democratic left of centre manifesto
And how do you think that would have gone for him in the last couple of elections in our European neighbours?
I'm not saying it did not have personal appeal. But it's not where the general public is right now. Right wing populism is coming and coming fast and the electable alternative to fend it off is not a party to the left of where Starmer has positioned the 2024 version of Labour I don't think.
it’ll still take at least 2 or 3 election cycles to erode Labour’s majority to the point where they can win themselves. It would take a revolution to overturn the bias towards labour and the tories that FPTP provides.
the electorate have never been this swingable, the Lib Dems are likely to go from 8 to near 80- seats since 2019 the Tories from 376 to less than 76
I wouldnt be complacent about Reform, Labour need to deliver, not just on the NHS, but rebuild high streets & community centres, give the young opportunities, energy prices, housing....
it’ll still take at least 2 or 3 election cycles to erode Labour’s majority to the point where they can win themselves.
Not in today's political climate I fear.
With an 80 seat majority the Tories could reasonably have expected to win the following general election, and not instead faced what will likely be their worst general election defeat in at least a hundred years.
Politics across the Western hemisphere has become volatile and unpredictable, and we are entering new political territory.
I have no doubt that how well the incoming Labour government preforms for the next 5 years will have a profound effect on how well Reform UK do in 2029.
I doubt that the Tories will regain their credibility in 5 short years. Look how long the LibDems struggled with their credibility after the disaster that was Nick Clegg.
The aim should be to offer voters another radical alternative to Nigel Farage/UKIP/Brexit Party/Reform UK. And that's going to be one helluva task.
The aim should be to offer voters another radical alternative to Nigel Farage/UKIP/Brexit Party/Reform UK. And that’s going to be one helluva task.
I agree, people want an answer to the question of how do we sort things out, which is what Reform are offering. It's largely the wrong answer, but no one is standing up and giving an alternative.
The problem with labour is that as soon as they are in office on Friday they’ll see it as job done.
Bullshit.
No further comment.
Now, deflation is just happening because energy prices have/are dropping, albeit I think we’ve probably hit the new normal now.
The fluctuations of energy prices do not reflect inflation, even if they are calculated as part of inflationary pressures.
They often reflect global events which have nothing to do with the state of an economy.
Edit: And good luck if you think that falling energy costs will be reflected in consumer prices of goods and services! That suggests a very naive faith in the claimed benefits of neoliberalism!
Why Starmer should now play prosecutor on Brexit - interesting erad in the FT - don't think it is paywalled
https://www.ft.com/content/b828868f-6ee8-4520-b101-586dffec63ce
If binners had really had something to do with it, there would have been colouring in too. And maybe some pastry flakes.
susepic
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Why Starmer should now play prosecutor on Brexit – interesting erad in the FT – don’t think it is paywalledhttps://www.ft.com/content/b828868f-6ee8-4520-b101-586dffec63ce/blockquote >
I cant read it unfortunately, I know there is a hack to bypass the pay wall but I can never remember it. Lol
The latest People Polling poll for GB News has Labour on 36%, although they also have the Tories on 16% so possibly not a very reliable poll.
On the other hand Survation does have a reasonable track record and they put Labour on 38% and the Tories on 18%
Survation also claims to be 99% certain that Labour will do better tomorrow than they did in the 1997 landslide victory, which I find hugely reassuring.
However accurate that Survation prediction might be it points to at least a massive majority for Labour.
Think i might skip this thread for a day, the amount of absolute dross about Labour on here, you'd think it was Farage himself posting it as it's that baseless and negative 🤣
Anyway, tomorrow i will be voting tactically, again, Lib Dems only hope to bin the current tory MP, to be fair she's a decent candidate who actually does a load of stuff in the area over the last few years, here's hoping.
Tories on 18% would be catastrophic for them, no?
That said, it could come to pass
It seems..... unlikely though
Think i might skip this thread for a day
I think the STW tradition is that announcing it instead of just doing it is called flouncing.
The latest People Polling poll for GB News has Labour on 36%, although they also have the Tories on 16% so possibly not a very reliable poll.
People Polling is Matt Goodwins (GBNews fave, brexiteer & Trump fan) outfit it's very partisan, asks very leading questions & has thrown up some crazy numbers over the last few weeks, eg 0 seats for SNP
I'd take it with a bucket of salt
