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So, having gotten away with not driving the car for a bit, it needs new tyres. This is a rwd staggered setup for which it’s impossible to get the defacto all seasons, and I don’t want to pay £1k’s for new wheels.
The car has Pilot Super Sports on it, but as I won’t be doing laps of the ‘ring anytime soon I’m looking for a not high performance summer tyre that has enough sipes on it to give a little more confidence in London winter e.g, cold slush and not spin out in a grassy car park/forest trail during a winters MTB race.
So, what good grip all weather summer tyres do I need to look at, 255/45/18 and 225/40/18 please. I don’t want a second pair of wheels.
Have you looked into Pilot all seasons? Rather than the STW recomended cross climates. Not sure if UK available but some dealers will be able to import from Europe.
If not go for the Pilot 4, more comfortable ride than P Zero and better in the wet than the Potensa S001
I've got Conti contactsport 6's on mine. Seem fine anytime everywhere.
i personally wouldn't buy a tyre suited too much to all seasons bearing in mind i rarely take the car out in the winter (salt). And if it's slippery i drive accordingly.
Re the Pilot 4; thats where i started, then started reading that they werent as good as the Pilot Super Sport, its the 4S that is.
Im happy with the Michelin wet performance so was looking at a "downgrade" to a Primacy 4 on the basis i dont need the sports performance (320d) but itd be useful to have more sipes. Yet, the PSS and the PS4s have a higher "wet" rating.
I used to have Federal 595 RS-R on a pretty beefy RWD car, staggered setup, and they were surprisingly good in crap Scottish weather. Certainly not any worse than the Yokohamas I had on before, and significantly better than the Yokos when it was warm. Got them from Camskill and they were pretty cheap, around £120 a corner I think.
it’s impossible to get the defacto all seasons
Unless my 30 seconds of Googling on your behalf was lying it's not impossible to get CrossClimates for that fit, so get them maybe. About £630 from Blackcircles.
Thats cause i got the profile the wrkng way around - try 255/40/18.
Its the rears that are issue.
try 255/40/18
Nope, you're on your own with your dumb-ass staggered tyres. I'll sidle off while thinking smugly about how nice it is to have identical, affordable and widely available R17s front and rear.
Difficult to work out from the website - are the 4s the replacements for the 4? I would think that the super sport are for track days and gnarly as .... cars so they could be compromised for purely on road use. I had some primacy 3 on last year and they were more uncomfortable than the PS3 and didn't grip as well, so personally I would stay away unless you are after the extra 1 MPG.
Are these for a 3 series M sport?
Sizes seem similar to what I’ve just bought
Are these for a 3 series M sport?
Sizes seem similar to what I’ve just bought
It is yes, what did you get?
Re the Michelin’s, he general consensus is that Michelin confused everyone when the MPS4 came our becuase they were due to replace MPSS, but then remembered they were committed to BMW as OEM to 2022. So, I believe MPS4 = cheaper MPSS, MPS4S = MPSS equivalent.
Further reading seems to have ruled out the Primacy also - more sipes but less grip, sigh...
I put Kuhmo's on. Its 4WD so not so pertinent to fit all seasons / winter tyres (although would still be a benefit, obv)
Do Pirelli still do the Corsa/ Asimetrico combination? They had lots of edges iirc.
I rate khumo and another option uniroyals?
Eagle F1 - Assymetric 5/3 for wet grip, super sport for dry grip
Have you looked into Pilot all seasons?
Those would be my ideal tyre.
Well, Conti have launched their All Season Contact in the sizes I need. still got 4mm left on the PSS so will see how much those wear they get / the car gets used this summer before buying the Conti's in the Autumn.
I don't wish to wee on your cornflakes, but a word of warning. They are the almost the same directional pattern as the wintercontact TS860 (I assume different compound) which were not a patch on the asymmetric Bridgestone LM 35 which I used prior to the wintercontact TS860. It may be all in the compound though.
Well, they seem to be in the top 3 in most tests, and referring to the OP its a staggered setup so without investment in new wheels I'm stuck with what I can get.
Seems a pretty decent tyre, and all I want it for is a bit more confidence from a RWD in a were field/track, I won't be driving in a spirited way in summer with them. I suspect the most effort they'll get will be a few hours on a hot motorway.
Conti Allseasons lasted me 9 months on a Grand C-Max. Replaced with Crossclimate + which are wearing much better.
That's fair enough, I just wanted to warn you that I found that particular directional pattern poor compared to asymmetric equivalents. The TS860 are very poor also when the weather is warmer whereas the LM35s were fine in autumn and spring.
Based on my experience of those winter tyres and Cross climates on my estate I would not hesitate to put asymmetric all seasons on a sporty car but would be nervous about a directional pattern.
Anecdotal I know but just my opinion for consideration.
I appreciate your conundrum and they may be the answer for you. They certainly won't be a disaster.
alanf
Free MemberEagle F1 – Assymetric 5/3 for wet grip, super sport for dry grip
The asym 5 is hilariously bad in wet snow/slush and not much good at muddy fields though. Brilliant tyres otherwise but like most other tyres with that sort of "5 bands of near-slick in a row" design they just aren't suited to it.
Turanzas a little better but still not really the allseason that the OP's wanting, just an allrounder that isn't dreadful at snow.