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[Closed] Turns out blood *isn't* thicker than water, after all

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https://twitter.com/RachelSJohnson/status/1060925600683175939

That has got to hurt, hasn't it? Both your siblings saying that Brexit is a terrible choice?

Rachel


 
Posted : 09/11/2018 4:28 pm
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Its OK for siblings to have differing opinions no?


 
Posted : 09/11/2018 4:33 pm
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Yes, but “they” know that already


 
Posted : 09/11/2018 4:35 pm
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Am hugely proud of my honourable and principled brother Jo

as opposed to the other one who is neither...


 
Posted : 09/11/2018 4:37 pm
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And there was me thinking Boris had be quiet of late.


 
Posted : 09/11/2018 4:39 pm
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Boris knows it as well.  His europhobic posture was all about placing himself to be the next tory leader and nothing to do with what he thought right.  He thought remain would win and he would then take over as tory leader.  the one good thing to come out of this mess is B. Johnson is now exposed for what he is and opportunistic liar and incompetent.


 
Posted : 09/11/2018 4:47 pm
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 B. Johnson is now exposed for what he is

Oh I don't know - I've always thought of him as rather incompetent.


 
Posted : 09/11/2018 4:54 pm
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I don't have it immediately to hand, but Boris tweeted in support of Jo saying that this isn't what we were promised and we're relinquishing control.  I predict a new pro-remain Boris before the month is out.  Whatever other criticisms you could level at him, he really rather likes to be on the winning side of things.


 
Posted : 09/11/2018 5:10 pm
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Hither and thus.

https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1060926776367595520


 
Posted : 09/11/2018 5:13 pm
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Boris knows it as well.  His europhobic posture was all about placing himself to be the next tory leader and nothing to do with what he thought right.  He thought remain would win and he would then take over as tory leader.  the one good thing to come out of this mess is B. Johnson is now exposed for what he is and opportunistic liar and incompetent.

Agreed, I once read, admittedly from a vocal Remainer in the party that Boris found himself at a cross-roads in 2015. He had wanted to shake off the bumbling baffon image he had created and become PM, he feared he'd be the next Gordon Brown, always in someone else's shadow until it was time for a Hospital Pass and if he ever become PM it would be for a half term before a landslide loss.

The Party needed someone to lead the Leave campaign, otherwise it would have handed the role of 'official Leave campaign' to UKIP, further legitimising them as a Party. He took the role as a calculated risk, he knew that if he Won, CMD would likely have to resign and the hoped the Eurosceptics in his Party would be able to install him as PM, but they didn't. Like so many Leave campaigners, he needed a new platform to launch another bid for the job, so whatever plan was put forward, he'd campaign for something else, something more anti-EU.

As I understand it, he resignation from the Cabinet and short-lived leadership bid was his last throw of the dice, but May was clever, they apparently have a decent sized 'war book' of sleaze on him, it's not a coincidence that the day after he tried his hand it was revealed he'd split with his wife years before on the quiet.


 
Posted : 09/11/2018 5:19 pm
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That saying is wrong.
It is actually "The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb" - meaning that the bond between people who have fought in battle is closer than family ties.


 
Posted : 09/11/2018 5:23 pm
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The thread is wrong, Boris has three siblings.

Which is far less than the number of threads about ****ing Brexit. Shall we close this one down, a la the last Peterson thread?
Or does Brexit get an automatic pass into the lemon party?


 
Posted : 09/11/2018 5:39 pm
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https://medium.com/@JoJohnsonUK/why-i-cannot-support-the-governments-proposed-brexit-deal-3d289f95f2bc

His resignation statement is worth a read, scorching stuff.


 
Posted : 09/11/2018 5:42 pm
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That saying is wrong.
It is actually “The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb” – meaning that the bond between people who have fought in battle is closer than family ties.

Much as irks me to say it, the fact that you are right no longer has any real validity. Language has moved on, and as a communicating device the fact that you and a few others know the original meaning is overwhelming beaten by the vast majority’s verdict.

I miss the period when gay didn’t mean bum sex.


 
Posted : 09/11/2018 5:46 pm
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It's worth quoting again the words of the Honorable Member who is in charge of steering us through Brexit, of protecting jobs and homes, and the rights of our citizens to go about their business.

 “I hadn’t quite understood the full extent of this,” he said. “But if you look at how we trade in goods, we are particularly reliant on the Dover-Calais crossing.”

Even as someone used to the incompetence and blustering that is modern Conservatism, I found this a surprising admission.


 
Posted : 09/11/2018 9:23 pm
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I miss the period when gay didn’t mean bum sex.

I really really don't.

😛


 
Posted : 09/11/2018 9:34 pm
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His resignation statement is worth a read, scorching stuff.

Agree it's well written but it's only saying what has been obvious to anyone with half a brain for months. I wonder how many more of them must be thinking the same and too cowardly to say it?


 
Posted : 09/11/2018 9:44 pm
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Boris has no morality, loyalty or even vision.... he will do our say ANYTHING to be PM.

Its genuinely a game to him, Monopoly on a grand scale.

The buffooning image he gives off covers a dangerous personality willing to through the whole country under the bus if it will further his progress toward PM.


 
Posted : 09/11/2018 10:02 pm
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I wonder how many more of them must be thinking the same and too cowardly to say it?

I don't think it's cowardice prevents them saying it, cowardice is exactly what makes them say it. Bojo et al campaigned hard for something they knew wouldn't happen and now when it's not happening they're running away and leaving everyone else to go down with the ship. His resignation is nothing to do with believing in anything but everything to do with putting as much distance between him and the distaster he's helped cause whilst everyone else deals with the fallout in the hope he can stand on top of the dung heap in future.

BroJo is the same, it's about staying long enough not to look too much like a rat but still make safe distance. The opposition (i have no illusions it would be any different with a different colour of government) seeing this as an opportunity to push for a GE rather than trying to figure out how to help mitigate the mess is the same. The only principle any of them in the house have is save your own skin.


 
Posted : 09/11/2018 11:01 pm
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Another resignation. And with a statement from the leading protagonists brother pointing out what everyone what anyone with anything between their ears has been saying for the last two years

And where’s the Labour Party? HM Opposition? Anyone......?

The silence is deafening

Corbyn and the rest of his *ing useless incompetent cabal will get what they’ve always really wanted... their hard Brexit, and the deluded, terminally dense, placard-waving Momentum members will get what they really didn’t want, but they got anyway through supporting these anti-EU zealots they think of as revolutionaries. Oh they’re revolutionaries alright you *-wits. It’s just the polar opposite of the revolution you had in mind

They’ll probably still think it’s absolutely bloody brilliant though, because... you know ... Jeremy

We’re truly *ed! And those that are apparently on the left are as utterly complicit in this as the hard right!

i really do truly *ing despair!


 
Posted : 10/11/2018 12:51 am
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^^ Friggin depressing isn't it.


 
Posted : 10/11/2018 12:54 am
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What’s utterly depressing is teaming the enormityof the political vacuum in this country. I wouldn’t trust any of this lot, in either party, to run a ****ing bath!

And we’ve tasked this collection of totaly incompetent imbeciles to sort out the most complex problems since the Second World War


 
Posted : 10/11/2018 1:43 am
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Boris knows it as well.  His europhobic posture was all about placing himself to be the next tory leader and nothing to do with what he thought right.  He thought remain would win and he would then take over as tory leader.  the one good thing to come out of this mess is B. Johnson is now exposed for what he is and opportunistic liar and incompetent.

This.

I read a Bio of Boris a few years back and he's deffo a remainer. His Father was an EU insider (MEP for Wight and Hampshire East from 1979 to 1984). Boris's anti-EU stance as a Journalist was purely to sell copy, and his anti-EU stance as a Politician was purely to gain Political capital.

Ironic isn't it. People at the heart of the leave campaign who are remainers and people at the heart of the Remain campaign who are leavers.

Not sure how I feel about that, I expect my MP to represent the views of the constituency, not just their own views so you could argue they were just doing that. Plus democracy is all about doing what the people want rather than what the politician thinks is right. (In other news a band/actor often plays a genre that sells rather than the Genre they personally enjoy.)


 
Posted : 10/11/2018 8:05 am
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Boris knows it as well.  His europhobic posture was all about placing himself to be the next tory leader and nothing to do with what he thought right.

Yep, it has been reported that he has said he regrets backing leave now (in hindsight).


 
Posted : 10/11/2018 5:20 pm
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Binners has it spot on.

Boris has been known to publicly admit he made a mistake on other occasions - I wonder what the chances are that he will do so over Brexit. He might come out well from it, and it would really put the cat among the pigeons.


 
Posted : 10/11/2018 7:43 pm
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Boris knows it as well.  His europhobic posture was all about placing himself to be the next tory leader and nothing to do with what he thought right.  He thought remain would win and he would then take over as tory leader.  the one good thing to come out of this mess is B. Johnson is now exposed for what he is and opportunistic liar and incompetent.

This.

Heseltine had him spot on when he said he waits to see which way the crowd is going, before running to the fron shouting “follow me!”


 
Posted : 10/11/2018 8:14 pm
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To quote The Sweet.....

“ they haven’t got a clue what to do”

🙁


 
Posted : 10/11/2018 8:30 pm
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Surely “the blood of the covenant” would originally be a reference, not to military bonds, but to the Covenanters and once you had taken communion as a Convenanter (the blood of the convenant) you were bound more tightly than family commitments.

If you check the history of the Covenant that would make more sense than military comradeship.


 
Posted : 11/11/2018 1:10 am

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