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I'm talking flat caps, baker boy, trilby, homburg etc rather than beenies and baseball caps. A real shop rather than online, need to try on.

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Posted : 16/11/2022 9:50 am
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A hat shop, a milliners if you will (if they make them for men as well).

There is one in Cambridge if memory serves, in Silver Street.


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 9:52 am
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Today I am proudly sporting the most middle class purchase I have ever made in my life. A lovely UK-made, waxed cotton flat cap from John Lewis. They should be able to sort your headwear needs


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 9:57 am
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A hat shop
STW at it’s finest 😂

Seriously though - virtually anywhere these days, since Peaky Blinders made them fashionable again (despite 99% of people attempting to wear them looking like total roasters 😀)
Even M&S has a fair range
https://www.marksandspencer.com/l/men/mens-accessories/mens-hats


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 9:59 am
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John Lewis

Good shout.

a milliners

Well you learn something new every day. Thanks.


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 10:01 am
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There are a couple of milliners near the Plaza Mayor in Madrid, if that's of any use?

https://www.esmadrid.com/en/shopping/sombrereria-medrano


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 10:03 am
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Beasleys in Hull is good, and a fun shop too with the trendy casual shop across the arcade. Have a Panama and a pork pie from there.

The Hat Shop in York city centre was excellent when I needed a topper.

Horsey and country clothing places usually have a decent selection of the styles you listed. What part of the world are you in, you might get better recommendations?


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 10:07 am
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F Hazell Smith in Leamington Spa https://royal-leamington-spa.co.uk/directory/shopping/men/f-hazell-smith/

I've always fancied a fedora myself.


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 10:07 am
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I've had one of these for nearly 10 years:

https://www.outdoorresearch.com/us/pub-cap-243638

It's great and the fold down softshell bits cover your ears on the way home from the pub  if it's windy/cold


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 10:07 am
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STW at it’s finest 😂

Peak STW if you will.


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 10:10 am
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Peak STW if you will.

Chapeau.


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 10:23 am
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https://peterforson.com/
Quality hats from Birmingham.


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 10:24 am
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if down south, Portobello road market has loads of hat shops, probably not your highest quality milliners but my son wanted a short top hat for a steam punk like look and had about 30 to choose from from various places


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 10:27 am
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Beasleys in Hull is good, and a fun shop too with the trendy casual shop across the arcade. Have a Panama and a pork pie from there.

The Hat Shop in York city centre was excellent when I needed a topper.

Horsey and country clothing places usually have a decent selection of the styles you listed. What part of the world are you in, you might get better recommendations?

Thank you. I'm in Sheffield so this is good info. Might try the Hull shop and visit The Deep at the same time. The Hat Shop in York is a great shout, totally forgot about that, went there years ago. Our John Lewis in Sheffield has now sadly gone so it's Manchester or Leeds for that. But I visit Oxford and London occasionally.


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 10:30 am
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Chakaping wins the internet today.... Excellent


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 10:32 am
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I think it was stanley with the peak joke. Credit where it's due 🙂


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 10:36 am
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Yes, Stanley's joke was a fine one

But Chakaping comment is sublime


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 10:39 am
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A bit left field but 'sporting outfitters' and gun shops usually sell these type of hats to match your tweed waistcoat, plus fours, Barbour jacket etc.
Tweed and waxed hats seem to be a perennial trend with people who use shotguns and train spaniels.


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 10:45 am
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I don't get it?

...oh wait... very good!


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 10:48 am
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@jambourgie - JL in Leeds is a bit rubbish. It's not that big and never seems to have anything in stock when I go there. I went on Sunday to get an overcoat and they had about 4 in the shop. It's winter season !!

If you've not got a massive or tiny head, you'll probably be okay buying online. I've got a pumpkin head so have to try hats/caps on


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 10:48 am
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Village hats aka hats and caps, online store that have a great selection at good prices and service always seems good.


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 10:52 am
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There is a good one in bridport in dorset called T Snook


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 10:55 am
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F Hazell Smith in Leamington Spa https://royal-leamington-spa.co.uk/directory/shopping/men/f-hazell-smith/

I’ve always fancied a fedora myself.

Love that shop! Well, the outside of it anyway.
Never been in, in my puff despite doing most of my time here, but I love how the display always looks like it was done in the early seventies and never changed
They even had/have that crinkly yellow shop window film in the window that makes everything a bit urine-esque
🙂👍

Village Hats online are great. Very helpful too though they've stopped selling my favourite cadet cap so I can't get behind them completely.


 
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Yes, Stanley’s joke was a fine one

But Chakaping comment is sublime

Team effort.

We're brimming with puns today, eh?


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 11:07 am
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Chapeau.

Perfect 🙂


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 11:09 am
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Team effort.

We’re brimming with puns today, eh?

I still think you take the crown though.


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 11:35 am
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Wait for your next trip to London and go to Christy's and Lock & Co.
Fedora, Trilby, Homburg, Pork Pie, Bowler, Topper, Panana, Caps various.
Don't forget a hat box for proper storage.
Reiss do a range of hats but don't know what they stock in store; I have two fedoras made for them by Christy's.


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 11:49 am
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I still think you take the crown though.

It will be hard to Top that


 
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I knew this would descend into titfer tat


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 12:01 pm
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A surprising number of towns still somehow seem to have a gentleman's outfitters, so worth a look.


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 12:08 pm
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https://www.magee1866.com/


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 5:13 pm
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Probably no help (unless you fancy visiting North Portugal*), our local market has a regular stall selling a large range of traditional flat caps all about five euros.

*Two bike parks nearby, Bike Park Ponte de Lima and Pe do Negro.


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 5:21 pm
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@cheese@4p stop bereting people


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 5:26 pm
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Breiter in Munich.... Just adding to the stw diaspora pomp.


 
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Was going to say charidee shops but, inspired by this thread, i went in to town earlier expecting a flat cap bargain only to be sorely disappointed. Northern, working class, aging town too. Without wanting to be insensitive you'd think they'd have a ready supply!? So...not charidee shops.


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 5:57 pm
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@BillMC Magee my late FIL's favourite suit maker. I think I may have to get me one of those tweed ratting hats.


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 6:04 pm
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If sir would like a top hat, wedding rental places often have used ones for sale.


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 6:45 pm
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I think the last person to pull off a topper was this fella. I just want something to stop my hair blowing around and keep my head warm without looking like a window cleaner. I'm drawn towards a Fedora or a Newsboy, or both. Not stacked of course. that would look odd. This thread has certainly delivered, plenty to go on so cheers!


 
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i went in to town earlier expecting a flat cap bargain only to be sorely disappointed. Northern, working class
unless you went into town in your Delorean I don’t see why you’d expect that… flat caps (all hats mentioned here, really) and solely the preserve of middle-class London hipster ****s these days 😀


 
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Was going to say charidee shops but, inspired by this thread, i went in to town earlier expecting a flat cap bargain only to be sorely disappointed. Northern, working class, aging town too

A proper northerner wouldn’t dream of giving away a perfectly good flat cap! 🤣

Only good for the bin when they’ve done with them.


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 7:56 pm
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and solely the preserve of middle-class London hipster **** these days

And us oldies who are trying to keep the weather off our glasses


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 8:01 pm
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Never been in, in my puff despite doing most of my time here

I once needed some studs for a dress shirt. They were the only place that had any around here.


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 9:18 pm
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Road trip for a hat.

https://ardalanish.com/mill-shop/

My father bought a hat from them and loves it. He loved the fact that the lady who weaves the wool showed him round, that the flock supplying were in the fields outside...


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 10:05 pm
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I once needed some studs for a dress shirt.

I don't know what any of that means.


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 10:12 pm
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and solely the preserve of middle-class London hipster **** these days

And us oldies who are trying to keep the weather off our glasses

And us baldies who live somewhere where it pretty much always bloody rains, hence my waxed cotton flat cap

I’m not trying to look like i’m out on a pheasant shoot, I just want to keep my bonce dry

I once needed some studs for a dress shirt

#accidentalpartridge


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 10:14 pm
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I think the last person to pull off a topper was this fella.

It's the only reason I became a civil engineer. Imagine my disappointment.


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 10:17 pm
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It's never too late; call the moggster to find out where he gets his.
Don't forget apricot jam - for maintenance purposes; you could instruct one of the below stairs plebs...


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 10:28 pm
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I am fairly sure* that a milliners is for ladies and for blokes it's a hattery.

Neither of which have been any use to me as anyhow, I appear to have an unfeasibly large bonce which means I have genuinely been into shops with hundreds of caps/hats on offer but only about 3 fit.

*it's a distant memory and Google is no help because that's just interested in telling you that you have head disease, or to buy a Pixel 6.


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 10:49 pm
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🤣

Definitely head disease. Pumpkinitis - the bad type.


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 11:02 pm
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I am fairly sure* that a milliners is for ladies
ooh good pedantry 👍 OED certainly agrees.

Can’t wait to see what OP comes out with 😀
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Posted : 16/11/2022 11:12 pm
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So what we’re faced with here is in response to somebody asking, perfectly reasonably, where to buy a flat cap, he’s being steered towards the ideal place to try on a selection of fascinators…

For a serious response I’d noticed the National Trust shops do a section of exactly the type of hats you’re after so why not go for a cream tea in the grounds of a stately home and get yourself sorted there?


 
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He asked where to buy hats - not specifically of the flat variety.
Fascinators? Definitely not fascinating.


 
Posted : 16/11/2022 11:21 pm
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https://www.lockhatters.com/

My wife's godfather owns this place. Think he went in to buy a hat and bought the shop?


 
Posted : 17/11/2022 7:17 am
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@slowoldman He's one of the reasons I went to Brunel Uni. Imagine my surprise when I found out that engineering was a progressively smaller part of what they wanted to do.

Yes, milliners make hats for the ladies, but I thought the word sounded better. Plus, it's a modern world, right?

If @alpin is going to thrown Munich out as a hat destination, I feel obliged to point out that I got a fantastic Harris tweed flat cap from The Scottish Shop in Stockholm.


 
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Is Brunel wearing a stovepipe hat in that pic?

I think only Jacob Rees Mogg could get away with wearing one of those in 2022, and that's just because he's a real life panto villain.

OK a stovepipe is a form of top hat apparently, presumably they fell out of fashion as motor vehicles became available as a more effective form of penis extension.


 
Posted : 17/11/2022 8:14 am
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Any love for the bowler? I've always quite fancied a bowler.

Aussie bushman hat is my hat of choice - keeps the sun of my shiny head in summer and the rain off in winter.


 
Posted : 17/11/2022 8:18 am
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I am fairly sure* that a milliners is for ladies and for blokes it’s a hattery.

Neither of which have been any use to me as anyhow, I appear to have an unfeasibly large bonce which means I have genuinely been into shops with hundreds of caps/hats on offer but only about 3 fit.

That is exactly the point of a milliners/hattery. They'll make one to fit any noggin.


 
Posted : 17/11/2022 8:20 am
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Any love for the bowler? I’ve always quite fancied a bowler.

I always fancied a dressage hat, which is like a bowler but with a flat top, or a short top hat if you will. But I think it's only lady horsewomen who are allowed to wear them 🙁

A horsey lady yesterday.


 
Posted : 17/11/2022 10:24 am
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I'm a big fan of Tom Hardy's hat in Taboo.

I expect I could carry one off quite well, being equally badass 😀


 
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No thanks to @matt_outandabout for posting that link, I'd murder for some Harris tweed cushions and a matching handbag. Did you watch Ben Fogle's latest where he sailed to St Kilda? Was rather taken with his, possibly Harris tweed, gilet. Looked smart yet warm and functional.


 
Posted : 17/11/2022 2:22 pm
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You match your handbag to your cushions? Nice!


 
Posted : 17/11/2022 2:29 pm
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I've always wanted a genuine Fair Isle hat. The excitable Paul Murton has a lovely one

https://www.exclusivelyfairisle.co.uk/shop.php


 
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@cinnamon_girl - have ever been to Melin Tregwynt?

Makers of lovely traditional welsh blankets plus they do cushions, bags and all sorts nowadays. Nice cycle friendly cafe too if you're ever down there.


 
Posted : 17/11/2022 2:44 pm
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Those fairisle hats look absolutely cracking.


 
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I always fancied a dressage hat, which is like a bowler but with a flat top, or a short top hat if you will. But I think it’s only lady horsewomen who are allowed to wear them

No they are (or were, I think they may now be banned and helmets mandatory) by men.

Dressage Hat

Probably look nicer on horseback than a mountain bike. Actually they are quite similar to sailors' tarred hats in Napoleonic times.


 
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You match your handbag to your cushions? Nice!

Why not? Why keep to matchy handbag and shoes?!

Makers of lovely traditional welsh blankets plus they do cushions, bags and all sorts nowadays. Nice cycle friendly cafe too if you’re ever down there.

Love those blankets! Lots of lovely things for sure and looks to be in a gorgeous setting.


 
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Why not?

Why not indeed. I was admiring your sartorial attention to detail. If I had a hat I'd doff it.


 
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Fair Isle knitted items have a very strong Scandinavian style, in particular Norwegian, which is appropriate, considering the strong Viking connection to the place.
My favourite style of cloth cap is the six-panel duckbill, it’s finding one that fits, now that I have little hair to pad them out.


 
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Re Cambridge - Ede and Ravenscroft are on the corner of Silver Street and King's Parade, and they will happily sell you a lovely hat, albeit not cheaply (I do own one, and although it was spendy it is a. also excellent and b. much cheaper than the bespoke suit I was actually in there to talk about. A narrow squeak). There is another shop though, exclusively hats - Laird, in Green St.

Tbf though there are regularly nice hats at Tacky Macky's, amongst the toot, if you don't mind the hunt.


 
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A gentleman should have a range of hats for all occasions and weathers. I have a Panama, a couple of fedoras in different colours, a sombrero ( a real one not a tourist one) a waterproof hat like a stockmans hat and several warm woolly hats in varying degrees of traditionalness.

One should never wear a baseball cap. Thats a basic rule of course


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 2:16 pm
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One should never wear a baseball cap.

Even if you're playing baseball?

🙃


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 2:19 pm
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Do you mean cricket? Cricket has its own range of headgear. Baseball is only for colonials who don't know any better


 
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Oh - and take your hat off indoors! that includes the in the pub!


 
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A gentleman should have a range of hats for all occasions and weathers. I have a Panama, a couple of fedoras in different colours, a sombrero ( a real one not a tourist one) a waterproof hat like a stockmans hat and several warm woolly hats in varying degrees of traditionalness.

One should never wear a baseball cap. That's a basic rule of course

A splendid post TJ. But I'd like to put in a small defence of the humble baseball cap if I may. I do have one, a Patagonia brand basic cap. It really comes into it's own working or playing outside in high summer. In primary position (peak forward) it shields your eyes from the sun allowing you to see what you're doing, and in secondary position (peak facing backwards) it allows you to get up close to the item you're working on whilst protecting one's neck from the sun. So my rule would be: never wear a baseball cap in a restaurant with the peak to the side 🙂


 
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@jambourgie
shshsb
My great great grandfather took that photograph.
Totally useless piece of information.


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 3:31 pm
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jambourgie

Thats what the panama or the sombrero are for! No need to keep turning it around - you have a brim all the way round.


 
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With a macro lens? Or are they really big chains?


 
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My great great grandfather took that photograph.

It's a helluva photograph. Hats off to grandad!

Thats what the panama or the sombrero are for! No need to keep turning it around – you have a brim all the way round.

Yes yes ok, but clearing one's gutters up a ladder wearing a sombrero would make you look a very strange person indeed.


 
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