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Any reason not to use 'trade' paint on interior walls instead of bog standard Crown/Dulux/whatever? I am looking for paint that gives good coverage in fewest coats. Is trade just the same to use as normal paint only with more pigment? I am covering smoking stains.
Any hints on getting the general cost down of buying paint for a whole house - I am going to do walls and ceilings all in the same white, maybe put in small bits of colour here and there.
The house I am sorting out (prev owner a chain smoker) now has its walls/ceilings washed down. Even so its still a mass of smoke stains. I did not do the first wash and may have another go at it myself before painting. I just can't imagine how disgusting it must have been before the first wash down, been in old time pubs that looked better!
I always use trade paint, much better coverage and harder wearing.
Good luck with covering the smoke stains, may be worth your while putting a stain blocker on first.
I recommend Zinsser Bullseye 1-2-3 for covering stains prior to painting.
Works a treat.
Always use trade. I don't even understand why they even make the other stuff (yeah, yeah profit I know!).
When my daughter bought a house previously owned by and old couple who were both chain smokers we used a jet washer to clean the walls and ceilings and still resorted to over boarding the ceilings.
Trade paint - only from the actual Dulux/Crown/Brewers decorating outlets, is the only thing I ever use.
It is far superior.
Compare a tin of Dulux emulsion from B+Q, then buy some trade paint direct from Dulux, and you'll see how thin / watery the stuff from B+Q is.
What colour? If white or magnolia, then the Armstead range from Dulux Trade Centres is as good as the Dulux, but at half the price.
From a limited experience, I'll be buying Leyland trade paint from now on, did some painting from my builder friends & it's much thicker (better single coat) than the dulux I'd been using at home lately.
leyland trade = yes .
no nonsense = no . like piss water
My father in law is a painter and decorator. He always buys trade, but waters it down to make it go further!
Thumbs up for the old Zinser, its great
Leyland Trade is what we use as standard as it covers well with 2 coats on new plaster. B&Q Tracepoint often have a deal on it too.
Just be grateful you dont have to get your paint in France.
Was recently doing some painting out there and was prior warned not buy paint in France but to smuggle some UK Trade Paint across the border. And I can see why! I could buy trade emulsion at from my local builder's merchant for around £2/Litre. And it's thick and luxurious like greek yoghurt. Lovely.
I was forced to buy some more paint locally, "trade" white emulsion again. €11/Litre and the consistency of semi-skimmed milk. Utter shite.
I've also been very happy with the Leyland paint but I actually fined it better thinned down a little for all coats.
+another for leyland trade (£15 for 10 litres at screwfix at the mo, but there's generally always somewhere selling it for around that price)
Just finished making the inside of the house white, one coat's generally been enough to hide the existing magnolia.
As a bonus it's actually white, rather than the jaundiced yellow of another cheap bucket of paint i bought previously
edit - it'd take a few coats to cover smoker-stains though. As above, stain block's probably a lot less frustrating in the long run
Trade paint is made for professionals. Standard paint is made down to a price so the formulation is cheaper. We only ever use Trade, from the Dulux Decorator Centres.
Paint formulation is complex and it's possible to find a huge range of qualities on the shelves. The best are Dulux Trade and the boutique paints like Farrow & Ball and Little Greene.
Always go for trade, and if you want a colour from a boutique range, then the trade centre will match a swatch or even have it already on file.
Compare a tin of Dulux emulsion from B+Q, then buy some trade paint direct from Dulux, and you'll see how thin / watery the stuff from B+Q is.
The Dulux stuff I've bought from B&Q (custom mixed colour rather than off the shelf) said "Trade" on the tin - is that the same or do Dulux do different "trade" paint for the direct to consumer market (i.e. B&Q) and for the "trade" trade market?
Trade always, Johnstones trade to be exact. I've bought quite a bit from here http://www.thepaintshed.com/ they are far far cheaper than the trade decorating centers and pretty much anywhere else.
I always buy trade paint and as well as the coverage I find it much nicer to apply. Brushes seem to glide with it and let you get a nice clean line in corners and edges. Sometimes a customer gives me a tin of utter crap they bought to go on a wall. I have been known to go to the Dulux centre and have them colour match at my own cost rather than use the customer tin. If it saves a coat, then it's worth it.
It's not hard to make up some letterheads and quotes and get a trade account at Dulux and Tradepoint which will save a good bit. If you use brushes, look out for the Purdy sets they sometimes have on offer at Dulux. They are the 650b of brushes, a delight to use. Some of mine are ancient, but after a run through with a brush comb (to dislodge the build up of old paint) they work beautifully.
They are the 650b of brushes
Make the walls come alive?
I was going to say "Makes the dado rails come alive..."