Not enough to really change the results.
Given their numbers in parliament 1 or 2 really could change the numbers.
WTF has happened in the last week or so?
Lots and lots of phone calls and 1 to 1 meetings with MPs promising jobs in the new cabinet I imagine. Given his willingness to ignore numbers I'd imagine the same jobs have been promised lots of times and some very unhappy supporters after it becomes apparent that Boris "thought" there were 350million home secretaries jobs and he should give them to his friends instead.
I can just about imagine a Boris victory being the cause of a GE about an hour after its announced, with a few very pissed tories happy to burn their bridges behind them, well aware they've been stitched up and aren't being returned under PM BJ at the next GE and I can't see him keeping the DUP on side well enough to prop him up.
I can hope.
Of course the down side is a GE in which we'll likely end up with no decisive winner (especially if JC wins)
There have been plenty of Tory MPs who have said publicly that they’ll resign from the party if he becomes PM. Does anyone believe for a single second that any of them actually will?
There's a sense amongst the 2 main parties that no one wants to go first. The Indies didn't have an easy ride of it and with the possibility of a GE around the corner they don't want to be Party-less.
But, a trickle could turn into a flood. I would imagine the biggest hurdle for Left leaning Tories is where to go? Become an independent and gamble on the wind changing before the next GE, Join Change UK, they're mostly ex-Tory now, but largely forgotten. Cross the Commons? Not while Magic Grandpa is in charge, they hate him more than Boris.
I would imagine the biggest hurdle for Left leaning Tories is where to go?
I imagine who would have them is more the issue. The anti tory vitriol from most other quarters would mean switching to another main stream party would be near impossible even if they suddenly started spouting marx in cabinet meetings.
BJ is going to be our next Prime Minister.
What on earth is going on? WTF has actually happened?
This is Cameron's idea of reigning in the loonies. His head should be on a spike.
This is Cameron’s idea of reigning in the loonies. His head should be on a spike.
I can't blame him for this, had I known the sort of triple faced, backstabbing, loons he had for colleagues I'd have been more sympathetic if anything.
114 votes?
Is there that many morons in the Tory party? Who knew..
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Well I suppose one shred of comfort I can take is that McVey and Leadsome fell at the first fence.
It's not much though, is it? The Blond Buffoon is still top contender.
So their handful of swivel-eyed loon votes get added to Johnson's stack.
No stopping him now. Brace yourselves for our international reputation to sink even lower.
Ah well, at least Scottish independence is guaranteed when BoJo takes over. At least we have that silver lining
and to think we wee laughing at Americans for having Trump as their President.
I imagine who would have them is more the issue. The anti tory vitriol from most other quarters would mean switching to another main stream party would be near impossible even if they suddenly started spouting marx in cabinet meetings.
I'd bet anything you like that in the highly unlikely event that 12 Tories walked, enough to give Labour a chance of forming a coalition Gov with the LDs, Greens, Plaid and the SNP they'd be welcomed with open arms anywhere they fancied. I'd equally bet that the SNP and Labour would put aside their differences to shaft the Tories.
114 votes?
Is there that many morons in the Tory party? Who knew..
I suppose we can take some heart from the fact 199 voted against him, and and the favourite rarely wins this sort of thing.
The sad thing is that he doesn't need to win, assumed all 199 won't take Boris as second choice, he's pretty likely to make the final 2.
I’d bet anything you like that in the highly unlikely event that 12 Tories walked, enough to give Labour a chance of forming a coalition Gov with the LDs, Greens, Plaid and the SNP they’d be welcomed with open arms anywhere they fancied. I’d equally bet that the SNP and Labour would put aside their differences to shaft the Tories.
It's a funny old world where the (soon to be ex) Chancellor of the Exchequer says he'd be prepared to vote with the opposition to stop No Deal.
This is increasingly looking like the only roadmap out of economic Armageddon. But Parliament and even those Tories with common sense will bottle it, as usual.
I’d bet anything you like that in the highly unlikely event that 12 Tories walked, enough to give Labour a chance of forming a coalition Gov with the LDs, Greens, Plaid and the SNP they’d be welcomed with open arms anywhere they fancied. I’d equally bet that the SNP and Labour would put aside their differences to shaft the Tories.
No chance, Corbyn/Momentum are toxic plus it's hard to imagine either Labour or the SNP will be willing to shoulder the blame for Brexit and save the Tory party from extinction.
It wouldn't need as many as 12 defectors so if it was feasible it would have happened yonks ago.
Is there that many morons in the Tory party
Any port in a storm and all.
Really it just means 114 tory MPs think they're more likely to have a job under Boris than anyone else in the race, eg, their constituents are more likely to vote Boris than anyone else.
I don't think, after the last few years, that anyone really doubts 18% of the UK population are stark raving mad so those who supported Boris probably aren't far wrong.
enough to give Labour a chance of forming a coalition Gov with the LDs, Greens, Plaid and the SNP they’d be welcomed with open arms anywhere they fancied.
You only need to look at the anti tory frothing on here to find that doubtful and, (I could be wrong) I doubt many of the frothers are even card carry members of the LDs or Labour.
They might be accepted into the membership but they're sure as heck not getting nominated or returned as MPs.
A lot of people HATE the tories, wouldn't wee on them if they were on fire hate, and that's stoked and used a lot at local level.
I can however imagine BJs NI in Brexit policy being enough to get sin fein to take their seats long enough for a no confidence vote.
I’d equally bet that the SNP and Labour would put aside their differences to shaft the Tories.
Good luck with that! The SNP are fiercely anti-Brexit and pro-EU. Corbyn and his cabal are the polar opposite and all for 'respecting the will of the people' and delivering Brexit. He doesn't give a toss about dissenting voices within his own party, so he certainly won't even entertain compromising with other parties
Really it just means 114 tory MPs think they’re more likely to have a job under Boris than anyone else in the race, eg, their constituents are more likely to vote Boris than anyone else.
Agree. Tory MPs despise him. The *only* reason he's getting support from MPs is because they think he can win and save their seats. (According to the Times story this week by a landslide.)
Maybe that logic means that potentially every MP who is willing to stomach Boris has already voted for him and he'll pick up minimal votes from the candidates who drop out. So potentially he could still fail to end up in the final two. There's still hope.
(According to the Times story this week by a landslide.)
Didn't they say the same about strong and stable May?
Didn’t they say the same about strong and stable May?
Maybe that's what the 199 who didn't vote for Boris are thinking.
Good luck with that! The SNP are fiercely anti-Brexit and pro-EU. Corbyn and his cabal are the polar opposite and all for ‘respecting the will of the people’ and delivering Brexit. He doesn’t give a toss about dissenting voices within his own party, so he certainly won’t even entertain compromising with other parties
I think we might be amazed at what people will accept to get what they want.
I can't say I envy them at this point.
They're pretty much being given the choice of voting for captain ahab, Don quixote, sancho panza, tybalt, lady macbeth, lear's Edmund and for contemporary reference, ramsay Bolton.
Who would you choose to save your skin and keep you in a job, knowing if your horse looses the winner will know fine well you didn't support them.
I'm expecting stalin esque purges of the party who ever wins.
