[Closed] Top Gear's Clarkson suspended by BBC

I quite like the idea of a refresh. Out with the old, in with the new.

I agree with this. It has been pretty tired for a few seasons now.

TBH there will be nothing left of the 'brand' by the time this is over. Might as well bin it and start over in a couple of years.

Chris Evans has ruled out doing it, apparently. And I don't think he's a 'good fit' for it, anyway. I can't see anyone being able to slot into the show as it stands.

I reckon a brilliant outlet for Colin Furze (look him up on youtube if you don't know who he is.

Certainly would be a bit of a 'marmite' presenter, but the lunacy would be ace. Not sure the beeb's health and saftey people would cope though!

That's the thing, though - they've done lunacy for twelve years now, and I'm bored of it.

[quote=Northwind ]Guy Martin could be a great feature presenter but not a host I think.

Why does it have to be the same? I'm not necessarily advocating him, but some people are falling into the trap of looking for a like-for-like replacement - and Guy quite clearly is capable of doing a presenting job. Lots of agreement that the format is stale and needed a revamp anyway - plenty of stuff they could do which isn't boring, but is different to what they did before. IMHO the best stuff was despite the obnoxious blokey banter rather than because of it - and they have done some great stuff in the past.

I DONT KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOUT

Sabine "I could do that in a van" Schmitz ftw, with VBH and Rachel Riley completing the Holy Trinity.

There you go, Rebooted.

I DONT KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOUT

Apparently Clarkson killed a man with a trident.

you couldn't just replace Clarkson, wouldn't work. You'd have to junk the entire show and start again.

Unless of course someone scoops up Clarkson, Hammond and May and we have SuperGear on ITV or sommat.

Sabine "I could do that in a van" Schmitz ftw, with VBH and Rachel Riley completing the Holy Trinity.

There you go, Rebooted

Can we choose the boots?

Is Michael Winner dead? He'd about fit. Or Piers Morgan. Marco Pierre White looks the same, sounds the same, is an anus? Maybe they could dig up Jimmy Saville?

[i]You'd have to junk the entire show[s] and start again.[/s][/i]

we could have constant re-runs of Downton, and Call the midwife....it'd be lushly

I reckon a brilliant outlet for Colin Furze (look him up on youtube if you don't know who he is.

Please God no. A 2 minute YouTube clip is more than enough for anyone.

"Woooooooo I'm crackers me!!!.... Wooohoooo really mad stuff ..... Watch thiiiiiss, I'm crackers me .... Etc"

aracer - Member

Why does it have to be the same? I'm not necessarily advocating him, but some people are falling into the trap of looking for a like-for-like replacement - and Guy quite clearly is capable of doing a presenting job

Not a like-for-like replacement but it'd need some massive changes in format before he became a good choice IMO, enough to mean it wouldn't really be recognisable. Which wouldn't bother me but that won't be what the BBC want.

Please God no. A 2 minute YouTube clip is more than enough for anyone.

Agreed - what a bell end

Al Murray, that tall model that likes fast cars - Jodie Kidd and Ben Collins.

Or scrap Al - Robson Green

Bring back William Woolard & Michal Rodd

Not a like-for-like replacement but it'd need some massive changes in format before he became a good choice IMO, enough to mean it wouldn't really be recognisable. Which wouldn't bother me but that won't be what the BBC want.

That was my point. You'll never replace Clarkson, so you'd have to competely change the show to make a new programme work. Ben Collins, Jay Kay etc are all just car people. TG hasn't really been about cars since they relaunched it. That's why it's so much more popular than 5th Gear!

Valentino Rossi or Guy Martin when they retire, make it about motorbikes and cars to widen the appeal and increase the lifespan of the show.

Then mix some of the idiocy in with some motorsports news.

IMO the perfect person to replace Clarkson would be Rob Warner....but he's a cyclist/motocrosser. 😆

Moron signing back in..

Why not have the BBC Exec board (because it will have been 19 mid managers protecting their jobs) front the show.

It would certainly be different then.

Possibly as lame as it is now, possibly not. Lots of copies of the Gridion and Woolen Jumper lying around on the set and such.

Maybe Merry Berry and that twunt she presents the Bake Off twaddle with, perhaps they could do it.. Seems like the BBC is heading that way with programming..

Moron signing off.

Edit: 450k have signed the petition already..

Assuming it is over, it'll be interesting to see how it pans out. BBC will presumably own the Top Gear brand, but if Clarkson, May and Hamshit defect to ITV or Sky they'll have the face of Top Gear at least.

Personally I think the BBC would most likely shake things up and go for an overhaul with a similar if not identical format.

I could see Clarkson, May and Hammond launching a big show on another network but wouldn't be surprised if it died on it's ass in a big way. I think Top Gear's preinstalled audience and familiarity count massively towards it's ongoing success. People who watch it, just because it's Top Gear. Without that and with any new venture likely to be placed under intense scrutiny, the genie could be well and truly out of the bottle.

njee20

TG hasn't really been about cars since they relaunched it. That's why it's so much more popular than 5th Gear!

It was actually. For about 5 or 6 series, it was much more car centric. The big set pieces generally revolved around cars racing something. Somewhere along the way the "crazy challenges" which were more like vignettes or asides became the show.

Edit: 450k have signed the petition already..

Titanic made £2.2 billion and won 11 oscars.

Foggy, Jamie Whitham & Guy Martin would make a great team for a bike show.
🙂

How about The Great British Top Gear Lap Challenge.
A cross section of society practice driving ,go on a journey, grow as people ,cry a lot and are then crowned fastest around the track.
Then we could have a shit programme hosted by someone really annoying who interviews the person who sadly couldn't go through to the next round.

Fair point njee but I think the BBC will see that as commercial suicide- if they lose Clarkson, that's a big upset for fans, changing the format drastically on top of that would be a huge risk (and let's be honest, there's a fair chance that if you want a different format, you still won't tune in because you're used to top gear being how it is now).

Can't we just import [url= http://gfycat.com/AbsoluteHollowAsiaticwildass ]Top Gear Korea[/url]?

njee20 - Member
you couldn't just replace Clarkson, wouldn't work. You'd have to junk the entire show and start again.

Exactly. You would be a bit sweaty if you are James May right now!

Exactly. You would be a bit sweaty if you are James May right now!

Neither May or Hammond seem short of work, so I doubt they are too concerned.

I don't understand why people are essentially saying that the format is dead already anyway. There's just far too many people watching it for that to be the case. Just because you've tired of something, doesn't mean that everybody else thinks the same. I find Dragons Den tediously boring, but I accept that many people still enjoy it. I just don't feel the need to rant on about it every week. I simply watch or do something else at 9pm on a Sunday.

According to the BBC website, 'Red Arrows, Inside the Bubble' will be shown instead. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04cg6pd

FFS! Two blokes having a hang bag time what's the big deal?

🙄

If the rumours are correct anf he hit someone I cant believe no none took the opportunity of a free hit at the ****

FFS! Two blokes having a hang bag time what's the big deal?

It's not really a big deal.

However, it's useful ammunition if you have an axe to grind.

A police investigation and DPP opinion could be amusing.

piemonster - Member

FFS! Two blokes having a hang bag time what's the big deal?

It's not really a big deal.

However, it's useful ammunition if you have an axe to grind.

Ahhh .... I see. I bet the backstabbers are the PC ZMs.

thejesmonddingo - Member

A police investigation and DPP opinion could be amusing.

What! 😯 More people are involved now? Don't they have more important things to do rather than trying to investigate hang bags? 😡 Are we paying our tax or TV license (the common approach to justify an argument 😆 ) to feed this bunch of idle PC ZMs?

Ohh look, morons back..

I'd add to my post earlier..

I propose these two:
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and a season talking about this:
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Should be right up the BBC's new programming scheme..

anagallis_arvensis - Member

If the rumours are correct anf he hit someone I cant believe no none took the opportunity of a free hit at the ****

Not when the person trying to hit is a short arse with short reach. 🙄

Clarkson and Wilman own the production company that produce TopGear. I don't think it's cut and dried who owns what and who has the rights to what. It would be very easy to transfer the format to any other channel and let the BBC keep the name. Like it or not Clarkson has made TG his own. My 12 yr old is very miffed it's not on on Sunday. After all that is the target audience. One of lifes pleasures settling down on a Sunday night with the boy to watch it and hear him cackle and laugh out loud at their merry japes!

Fair point njee but I think the BBC will see that as commercial suicide- if they lose Clarkson, that's a big upset for fans, changing the format drastically on top of that would be a huge risk (and let's be honest, there's a fair chance that if you want a different format, you still won't tune in because you're used to top gear being how it is now).

And that's the BBCs dilemma. If they get rid of Clarkson they lose one of their three biggest programmes basically.

Jimjam - it's never [i]really[/i] been about cars. They've always done features on cars, still do, but it's an entertainment programme. I can't help but think folk suggesting it needs Guy Martin or Valentino Rossi at the helm to broaden its appeal have misunderstood what it is they're watching!

Over half a million names on the online petition now 😆

thejesmonddingo
A police investigation and DPP opinion could be amusing.

Of course, wasting several hundred thousands pounds of tax payers monies on why some fat angry old bloke hit or didn't hit some other not so fat, old or angry block, is of critical importance right now.........

I also think people probably underestimate JC as a host. Look at the SIARPC guests he's interviewed, generally with good humor and a good on screen bonhomie. I mean, not many people could face up to Tom Cruise & Cameron Diaz in such a short interview and make it work imo. (Chris Evans being one probably)

wasting several hundred thousands pounds of tax payers monies

2. What other crimes should we ignore to save money ?

njee20

Jimjam - it's never really been about cars. They've always done features on cars, still do, but it's an entertainment programme.

Disagree. Yes it's an entertainment show/factual entertainment whatever. But it was certainly much more car focused. Check wikipedia if you want. They used to review about 4 cars per show, along with a car based set piece like racing Gee Atherton, or racing a bob sled in the evo rally car etc etc. Thrown into the mix they would have very short silly feature, these have gone on to become the show and they might typically have two cars in potatoes.

maxtorque - Member

I also think people probably underestimate JC as a host. Look at the SIARPC guests he's interviewed, generally with good humor and a good on screen bonhomie. I mean, not many people could face up to Tom Cruise & Cameron Diaz in such a short interview and make it work imo. (Chris Evans being one probably)

Most likely longer interviews cut down. Clarkson's talk show was absolute car crash tv (pun intended). If you want to see just how bad a host he can be, look it up on youtube.

Moron has a responce..

1. Not sure how many officers you think will be involved in asking a few folk if he hit one of them and them going yes or no then someone else deciding what to do with the evidence. Ie it will cost nothing like that
2. What other crimes should we ignore to save money ?

Weeeellll.. in point 1 it's not just a couple of blokes on a shift 2 till 10 is it.. Noo... It's all the back office, front end staff, lawyers, solicitors and thats just the CPS, pull in the BBC's 40,000 lawyers, 11,000 middle managers and 23 runners 14,000 coffee and catering staff and you've got yourself one helluva costing issue.. And just WHOSE budget will that come out of?
So you need to widen your scope of costing knowledge.
2, simple.. every other crime that takes place until this is SORTED.

Moron Out.

[quote=bikebouy said]Moron has a responce..

😆

Media stunt.

Junkyard - lazarus
1. Not sure how many officers you think will be involved in asking a few folk if he hit one of them and them going yes or no then someone else deciding what to do with the evidence. Ie it will cost nothing like that

Like when some bloke called a copper a pleb?

In all seriousness, it's not clear if the 'victim' was even the 'complainant'.

14000 coffee and catering staff and they cant even serve him dinner ?

[quote=Inbred456 ]Clarkson and Wilman own the production company that produce TopGear.

That's already been debunked - they sold up to the Beeb a few years ago.

14000 coffee and catering staff and they cant even serve him dinner ?

This needs to happen

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Borat Top Gear

Anyone else see CH4 news? Apparently the producers had laid on a helicopter to take "Jezza" directly from the shoot to his hotel, but he kept the helicopter waiting 3 hours before boarding. When he finally arrived at the hotel they'd stopped serving dinner which is why he kicked off at the producer.

I'm torn between (as said above) The Pub Landlord or Nigel Farage taking over the hosting.

Just seen a great advert on Dave pointing out that there is one channel where you can still see Top Gear at 8pm on Sunday..... 😆

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Media stunt

Not the first time someone's called him that..........or something similar!

allthepies - Member
Over half a million names on the online petition now

ill bet that ukip are desperate to harvest their emails! half a million votes in the bag!

Anyone else see CH4 news?

I didn't, I'm afraid, but I do so hope they covered some actual news.

Just seen a great advert on Dave pointing out that there is one channel where you can still see Top Gear at 8pm on Sunday.....

Bet they are worried about their 2018 schedule though.

MoreCashThanDash - Member

Just seen a great advert on Dave pointing out that there is one channel where you can still see Top Gear at 8pm on Sunday.....

BBC should just show a repeat on Sunday night. No one would notice.

Well up until tonight I was sort of on JC side then... ... David Camera-on is a friend and support s JC.

I hope the BBC holds their investigation and treats him like any other employee

I reckon a brilliant outlet for Colin Furze (look him up on youtube if you don't know who he is.

Claskson may be many a thing but at least he's never intentionally dumped an entire sumps worth of oil along a road before.

And whoever mentioned Top Gear USA - if you think that's entertaining then I can see why you hate our version so much. Definitely think you're the Mary Hollywood target market...

I hope the BBC holds their investigation and treats him like any other employee

There's some doubt about that even, as he's not actually a BBC employee (according to a few things I've read)

are we still dealing with if and maybe? I thought we would be onto execution method by now.

Death by bike? He has to ride through London on a borris bike?

BBC should just show a repeat on Sunday night. No one would notice.

Yeah the presenters did that joke themselves on twitter, nice of you to repeat it though.

Apparently the producers had laid on a helicopter to take "Jezza" directly from the shoot to his hotel, but he kept the helicopter waiting 3 hours before boarding.

Hmm, Jeremy made the helicopter wait for three hours, or a filming session overran?

It's interesting the way you can put a different spin on events through how you explain them!

It is interesting to me that lots of people on here are waving their outrage over his BS about,yet it is OK to draw parallels between him and Saville and suggest anybody who signed the petition is a UKIP voter potentially.

They'll get him to apologise to that little producer man who will accept 50% of the blame for what happened and the gravey train will continue to pull out of White City for ever more... It's in everyone's best interests.

[i]and the [s]gravey train[/s] [b]custard boat[/b] will continue to pull out of White City for ever more [/i]

ftfy

ninfan.

Hmm, Jeremy made the helicopter wait for three hours, or a filming session overran?

It's interesting the way you can put a different spin on events through how you explain them!

According to the reporter on CH4 news filming had finished for the day and Clarkson kept the Helicopter waiting while he was in the pub. I'm not putting a spin on anything.

So according to somebody, who told somebody this is what happened.

mikewsmith - Member

So according to somebody, who told somebody this is what happened.

Yeah, pfff. Bloody people.

INRAT^bollocks

Is there a petition to have him pilloried for a week beside a crossroads in London somewhere ?

They could make up the £150M with live streaming at a fiver

mikewsmith - Member
So according to somebody, who told somebody this is what happened.

Have we discussed Hitler yet in his thread for the full house?

Yeah the Hitler joke was made back there somewhere so that's house.

I have to ask, wtfing ****? Overgrown fauxvinistic schoolboy uses casual racism to further his career. End of story surely?

I've mentioned this already I'm a 'haterz' of what top gear has become over the past 5years. Previously JC had it nailed but gradually its become 'which automatic mercedes should we drive this week fast round a very wide airfield'.

Or destroy cars that really should be treated as classics. Any real car enthusiast would recoil and wince at what they do to various Alfa/Porsche/etc.

Disgusting waste.

Only the last episode (along with part of the Oz episode) had glimpses of redemption.

So I think it'd be good if he goes. For good.

Richard Littlejohn hits the nail on the head.

So our prime minister thinks it's ok to come out in defence of a boorish racist who assaulted someone because they didn't get their dinner when they wanted it.

Richard Littlejohn hits the nail on the head.

one odious racist sticking up for another.

So our prime minister thinks it's ok to come out in defence of a boorish racist who assaulted someone because they didn't get their dinner when they wanted it.

What's his view on puddinggate?