[Closed] Top Gear's Clarkson suspended by BBC

Katy Hopkins or Clarkson??

[quote=withersea ]For the lovers of clarkson in the style of Marmite, sign up to get him back (although he hasn't actually gone anywhere (yet)).
support for jezza

He has the backing of Guido Fawkes and Katie Hopkins? He probably finds that reassuring.

#greatpublicity

whatnobeer - Member

Clarkson said a lot of stupid and offensive things but he didn't often (that I can remember) target specific people.

He's got very good lawyers.

I quite liked the guy at first.
Until I realised his act was an extension of his own repulsive personality rather than an Alf Garnett type parody.

whatnobeer

Not offended, but you're missing the point. It's different to say your a * and people who use STW are *.

Clarkson said a lot of stupid and offensive things but he didn't often (that I can remember) target specific people.

Yeah, you're right. It's fine for example to say, I hate all gays but it's totally wrong to say I hate Graham Norton.

Any reason they didn't call it a bit of Argy Bargy?

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tbh the producer probably deserved it.

JC is crass and often says things that should not but I personally don't think he's racist etc. He just likes to shock to make a point/impact and he takes the piss out of himself more than he does anyone else. He just goes about things in a way that a lot of people don't like and a a result he has ended up a bit like Marmite.

I want to know what the producer said/did before I decide.

But i would say as a license fee payer I want a refund every time they cancel a show.

Has anybody else noticed his huge bald spot has magically disappeared?

[quote=Rusty Spanner ]I quite liked the guy at first.
Until I realised his act was an extension of his own repulsive personality rather than an Alf Garnett type parody.

+1. I'm wondering whether those who still like him haven't worked this out yet, or they actually quite like [s]obnoxious gits[/s] people like him.

Shame he didn't punch the producer of Call The Midwife too because that is what we are doomed to watch on a Sunday evening for the rest of time.

And they all have Scouse accents this time, for added teeth pulling annoyance, 😐

I quite liked the guy at first.
Until I realised his act was an extension of his own repulsive personality

Ah, you know him personally then?

Funny, because I know two people who do and they say he is nothing like his TV persona...

I don't get Top Gear. It's essentially the same programme repeated every episode with slightly different cars.

Race pt 1, unfunny banter, star in car (yawn), more unfunny banter, bit of a semi review, race pt 2, end.

5th gear is like what top gear was like before the reboot. A programme actually about cars. Not a tired middle aged light entertainment show with some allegedly "risqué" humour that has cars in it.

No.
So that's two of us.

However, nothing he has ever said or written has contradicted that statement.
Nothing, in his enitre career.

In fact, his books, his comments, his columns, his actions and his interviews all back up the fact that he really is the reactionary bigot that other people maintain he isn't.

I've neither read, heard or seen a single thing written by or about him that suggests he doesn't believe what he says.

I decide to not watch top gear a couple of weeks back, having not watched much of the last series. Poor re-hashes of the same old same old, and how many people can they offend per programme.
Maybe time for a clean out and new idea.

In fact, his books, his comments, his columns, his interviews all back up the fact that he really is the reactionary bigot that other people maintain he isn't

His mum created the first Paddington Bear, so he does have a soft side.

5th gear is like what top gear was like before the reboot. A programme actually about cars.

[quote=ninfan ]Ah, you know him personally then?
Funny, because I know two people who do and they say he is nothing like his TV persona...

Well either he manages to keep up the act in public, or he puts on an act with the people you know. You don't remember this?
http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/jeremy-clarkson-continues-to-be-a-moron/page/3#post-5671412

I thought the programme he narrated (and wrote?) on the WW2 Arctic Convoys was superb - sensitively presented. This may be the missing side of Clarkson that people don't normally see.

I was always a car nut as a kid. Not so much now, but love Top Gear (as does the wife) as light entertainment. Wouldn't watch 5th Gear or any derivative though. Next they'll be making programmes about bikes - how boring would that be? Oh wait....

Yup his reports on WW2 history are great. He has a great respect for serviceman.

I quite like the GCN bike shows on you tube and the presenters are entertaining.

I know two people who do and they say he is nothing like his TV persona...

IMHO the I am only pretending to be a **** is not a great defence.

Shall we name this defence after you or him?

The Chipping Norton defence?

No different from forming your opinion of Diana from what you've read and saying that she was the queen of hearts/manipulative slapper is it? People are rarely entirely either (and surely pretending to be lovely in public and acting like a **** in private is no better than the alternative is it Junky?)

I think the alternative is that he could be both nice in private and in public

IMHO its not nice to be a **** whether in public or private.
I have never given much thought as to which is worse tbh.

Funny to hear the comments about his horrible comments on various races and countries then suggesting your dream fwap list of women to front a new cars and babes show.

And yes it is the same old stunts but with the new shiney version from this year just like cycling. And this forum.

wwaswas - Member
Star in a reasonably priced fracas.

This made me laugh

Half expected this site to have exploded in pure joy

why?

there'll be nothing for anyone to rant about on a monday morning, and swarms of bored STWers.

The number of pages generated in here, explains why he will probably stay on TG and the Beeb. Who comes close to generating such responses?

Not seen much apart from the specials recently but watched all of this series so far, loved it. Car's nobody will ever buy great films from interesting places, and May in the rally cross was hilarious. The argy joke in the show was fairly tame. So if he did punch somebody I guess that's it or not or maybe. I'm guessing most of the haters fall into the never watched it category or those that would really really like an in depth review of a car they can go and test drive tomorrow.

According to the news the bbc have cancelled all remaining shows....

Not really. It's just a joke. You know, like on Top Gear.

[quote=mikewsmith ]I'm guessing most of the haters fall into the never watched it category Lots of the critics are folk who were previously fans but who've grown tired of the same program every week, not that I'm suggesting it can be easy to make changes [i]and[/i] retain those viewing figures.

Seems a bit two faced of the BBC.

On one hand they pedal that awful chavy, sh*tcom Eastenders, full of low rent people punching each other (and worse) everynight and yet one little punch from JC and they are all up in arms as if he just started ww3.........

You do know that Eastenders is just acting, yeah?

You do know that Eastenders is just acting, yeah?

Guilty as charged m'lud

According to the news the bbc have cancelled all remaining shows....

They've cancelled next week's which was the last one but nice bit dramatisation there.

scotroutes
You do know that Eastenders is just acting, yeah?

Yup, just like (99%) of Top Gear...........

[quote=teamhurtmore ]The number of pages generated in here, explains why he will probably stay on TG and the Beeb. Who comes close to generating such responses?

Hitler? (DYSWIDT?)

[quote=mikewsmith ]I'm guessing most of the haters fall into the never watched it category or those that would really really like an in depth review of a car they can go and test drive tomorrow.

Not even close.

teamhurtmore - Member

Who comes close to generating such responses?

JHJ.

Drac - Moderator
They've cancelled next week's which was the last one but nice bit dramatisation there.

I've seen it reported that the radio times reported that they've both been cancelled.

5th gear is like what top gear was like before the reboot. A programme actually about cars.

It [i]is[/i] top gear before the reboot - the BBC cancelled (old) Top Gear then later sold the format to C5 keeping the name and clarkson (C5 wanted the name as well but possibly weren't away the BBC were ready to launch a new format with the same brand)

The number of pages generated in here, explains why he will probably stay on TG and the Beeb.

its so obvious he's having a nest feathered for him at Sky.

its so obvious he's having a nest feathered for him at Sky.

But the international sell on would be the same if they can get the format/rights from the BBC.

Would have been a great opportunity to bring in Chris Harris but then that'd turn it back into a car program and I'm not sure the country/World is ready for that.

I have to admit that even in it's current slightly stale format with some cringe-worthy and I can't imagine quite how that managed to get passed the edit moments, I really enjoy the program. It features some simply wonderful cars and is hosted by 3 guys who obviously love to drive them.

It's massively due a makeover and I'm not sure it'll be the same without any of the personalities but they certainly need to can the in jokes and jolly japes as they're just looking pathetic. That Peugeot piece a couple of weeks ago was a perfect example of the cringeworthy filler they can produce. The less said about the Patagonia Special built around a [i]funny[/i] numberplate the better.

Disappointing that we won't now get to see the rest of the features they've put together, I'm sure that in the dross there will have been some gems. Even if most of them will have been because some engineers somewhere did something brilliant.

No! I wanna see the LaFez v 918 v P1

Anyway, don't get me started on the writhing pit of vermin that the BBC is.
Could it have had anything to do with this?
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/08/bbc-whistleblowers-jimmy-savile?utm_content=buffer8cd64&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Is it JHJ's night off?

I can guess that certain personalities come across a certain way in the media, his NoW and Top Gear presenting style certainly seems to point to him being an ignorant twunt.

But if the 5th Gear style was as good as some on here make out it would be trumping TG at the ratings then he wouldn't be able to hold the BBC to ransom since no one would be interested in buying this franchise, Shirley?

He did punch Piers Morgan....in the face.

Online petition for reinstatement going well..

Signed.

Last episode was half decent too FFS. Oh well thats another audience-winner that the beebs lost.

The report I just read said he allegedly punched a producer. Why on earth would anyone sign a petition to get him back at work? Insane.

Where else would that be supported?

The guy sold the rights to Top Gear to the BBC a while back, if he gets sacked how do will this affect the BBC and their marketing of Top Gear internationally?
I see only two winners, Clarkson and whoever provides him his next vehicle for broadcast (pun intended).

Online petition for reinstatement going well..

Signed.

Surely only a moron would sign a petition to reinstate someone suspended from their place of work whilst under investigation for alleged violence when they knew exactly zero about what happened apart from the scant headlines?

120 thousand morons - well TG is a magnet for a certain type of person.

Laughed when I heard he had been suspended, kind of hoping it's a descent into early dementia/madness and we'll find out he's been sectioned after being found cycling the streets naked yelling profanities about Germans/Asians/Argentinians.

Do you keep your purse in that handbag?

convert - Member
Online petition for reinstatement going well..
Signed.

Surely only a moron would sign a petition to reinstate someone suspended from their place of work whilst under investigation for alleged violence when they knew exactly zero about what happened apart from the scant headlines?

120 thousand morons - well TG is a magnet for a certain type of person.

Thanks, you think I'm a moron.

Cheers

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under investigation for [b]alleged violence[/b] when they [b]knew exactly zero about what happened apart from the scant headlines?[/b]

So what do you know that allows you to judge?

Who me?

Now't that hasn't been reported on the BBC.

Still think it might be a publicity stunt of some magnitude.

Hey Ho..

Moron signing off.

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So what do you know that allows you to judge?

I know exactly the square route of F all! Exactly like the 120 thousand people who signed the petition. Which is why I wouldn't sign a petition one way or another and would prefer that folk who know a bit more than me made the judgment.

Smoke, mirrors and a bit of manufactured theatre on the run in to the Porsche, mclaren Ferrari programme... Making a crisis out of a drama?

I'm a moron. I want to know exactly where he is.

There are in fact three remaining episodes that aren't going to be aired,

They've cancelled next week's which was the last one but nice bit dramatisation there

The Sun has gone with "bop gear" and the Star "strop gear". Surely stw can do better than that.

Nice bit of publicity for Top Gear again...

BBC own 50% of the production company, not all of it.

Massive mistake on the BBC's part - someone from 5 Live tweeted that TG generates 5 times the 5 Live budget - how do the BBC intend to fill the revenue shortfall? And what about job losses if the series goes/fails without JC?

Strikes me as the BBC becoming weak and pandering to a vocal minority of Guardian reader types.

Massive global audience figures, magazine spin off, licensing, show and petition signatures suggest they'd be stupid to lose him.

[i]someone from 5 Live tweeted that TG generates 5 times the 5 Live[/i]

it was only 3 times last night.

All this publicity is pushing the value of Top Gear for the BBC up already!

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Strikes me as the BBC becoming weak and pandering to a vocal minority of Guardian reader types.[/i]

If you tried to hit your boss would you expect to just carry on as if nothing had happened?

If not then it's not pandering to anyone by suspending Clarkson pending an investigation, it's doing the right thing.

Has Putin been involved?

[i]Has Putin been involved? [/i]

he's been seen testing some crackers new form of transport, so maybe;

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I'm a moron. I want to know exactly where he is.

According to his daughter, he was at home cooking last night ! HTH

BBC own 50% of the production company, not all of it.

2 1/2 years out of date there I believe. But to be honest irrelevant either way.

As Wwaswas says the 'star' of the show has been suspended pending investigation making the show a bit difficult to air. Nothing has been permanently cancelled that we, the general public, have any knowledge of. I can't see how the BBC could have acted differently. Anyone who thinks they could be accused of allegedly punching a colleague at their place of work and not be suspended pending can be added to my moron list 😉

Speeder - Member

Would have been a great opportunity to bring in Chris Harris but then that'd turn it back into a car program and I'm not sure the country/World is ready for that.

Harris has said that he's been approached about several "Top gear Style" programmes but turned them down as he's not interested in gimmickry etc, he just likes driving cars. Which is good because he'd be an awful fit on the current TG format.

He's done a piece with Tiff for 5th Gear apparently.

I think Clarkson is the type specimen for total tube. I have two theories on this:

1. he wants to be sacked, so did it on purpose

2. he has lost his marbles (erratic, spontaneous offensive behavior)

I won't miss him. Good show, but will survive without that dork.

BBC own 50% of the production company, not all of it.

Nope, Clarkson sold his share back to the Beeb in 2012 according to the news..

Breaking news: New Top Gear lineup announced.

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He's a malaka - good riddance to him, that's my opinion.

This article patronisingly explains to the foreigns that [url= http://uk.businessinsider.com/why-does-britain-hate-jeremy-clarkson-2015-3 ]"Brits understand that Clarkson is a media clown"[/url].

TBH even with his vast failings it wouldn't be the same. It'll come across like Top Gear America. You'll watch it but somehow its not right. Almost like you are watching a tribute band at your local pub.

Meanwhile C5's Classic Car show is quite good 🙂

Chris Harris? Why do PH'ers love him so much ❓

All that's going on in the UK/World and this bollox is the lead BBC News headline, FFS.

I think Clarkson is the type specimen for total tube. I have two theories on this:

1. he wants to be sacked, so did it on purpose

2. he has lost his marbles (erratic, spontaneous offensive behavior)

3. The 'complainant' was not the bloke hit, but some tofu knitting, luvvie, guardian reading BBC intern who saw a couple of blokes arseing about/bantering from the other side of the room and ran home crying about it, so that by the time it got home to auntie Beeb everything had been blown out of proportion.

BBC own 50% of the production company, not all of it.

Massive mistake on the BBC's part - someone from 5 Live tweeted that TG generates 5 times the 5 Live budget - how do the BBC intend to fill the revenue shortfall? And what about job losses if the series goes/fails without JC?

Strikes me as the BBC becoming weak and pandering to a vocal minority of Guardian reader types.

Massive global audience figures, magazine spin off, licensing, show and petition signatures suggest they'd be stupid to lose him.

You think it is weak to deal with Clarkson hitting someone in the workplace? It would be weakness not to deal with his bullying.

The 'complainant' was not the bloke hit, but some tofu knitting sandal wearing BBC intern who saw a couple of blokes arseing about/bantering from the other side of the room and ran home crying about it, so that by the time it got home to auntie Beeb everything had been blown out of proportion.

The victim was too scared to report it himself, that's how bullying works.

[i]who saw a couple of blokes arseing about/bantering[/i]

really?

If it was all 'bants' then the other person involved would have been spoken to prior to Clarkson being suspended and no action would have been taken? Or they'd both have been suspended? Or neither.