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FFS replace Clarkson with Clare Balding she's in everything else. Get the script writers in from Miranda and Mrs Brown Boy's as the BBC flog those dull programs to death. Finally get everyone in period costumes and Top Gear will be reborn in the BBC's winning formula.
Please end the licence fee.
The Top Gear production team (presenters included) ran out of ideas two or three years. Put the show to bed and forget about it. It's a shame though, I still watched it, mainly because of the way it was shot, but it's finished as a programme, Clarkson killed it.
TG won't be back, but the whole story is dragging on because someone very high up at the Beeb wanted Clarkson out, but there are others, ( the vast accountants dept) that have gone "sh!t, wait, TG makes us a lot of money".
And thats the real story, of how bullies in the "media and entertainment industry" have way too much power, and how every now and then they are knocked down a peg or three.
They should put Nicholas Parsons on. He'd be totally awesome!
I presume the remaining 3 shows of the current series won't be shown, unless the beeb do a massive u-turn?
It was my understanding the May and Hammond won't do it without Clarkson (whilst he was on suspension), hence the cancellation.
has to be live on any channel, not just the BBC
Well, we watch one or two of the channel 4 comedies but we can always 4od them. Everything else we watch on catch up through the internet. So cancelling is probably best for us.
as you note they would rather he stayed. him being racist and hitting folk whilst being racist is what forced their hand.the whole story is dragging on because someone very high up at the Beeb wanted Clarkson out
And thats the real story, of how bullies in the "media and entertainment industry" have way too much power, and how every now and then they are knocked down a peg or three.
Not sure if trolling or serious
DG of BBC confirms that Clarkson 'sacked'.
[i]Breaking: BBC DG Tony Hall: "It is with great regret that I've told Jeremy Clarkson the BBC will not be renewing his contract."[/i]
not sure what that means for remaining episodes of this series if it's just not a contract renewal?
reporting on the radio, not renewing his contract.
It was inevitable
[i]It was my understanding the May and Hammond won't do it without Clarkson (whilst he was on suspension), hence the cancellation.[/i]
Well, as much as the format is getting tired, I was looking forward to seeing the 3 way shoot out between the Maclaren P1, Porsche 918 & the La Ferarri that they seemed to be getting agreed by the manufacturers.
IF the BBC stupidly sack Clarkson, what will happen to all the staff of TG including the live shows, magazine, website etc? Hopefully they're safe - not their fault the BBC have made such a commercially suicidal decision.
Blimey that's going to have an effect on here.
What will we discuss now on Sunday nights?
Good a big up yours to all the ****wits who signed the petition to get him reinstated, goes to show you cannot expect to abuse & assault people and get away with it no matter how popular you are.
IF the BBC stupidly sack Clarkson
Assuming it's true that he abused and assaulted a colleague, what, realistically, could they have done? What does it say about people that a million of them, plus the Prime Minister, ask that a violent bully be let off?
What will we discuss now on Sunday nights?
The new car show on Sky when they offer the 3 of them a wheelbarrow full of cash.
[i]Tymon was "subject to an unprovoked physical and verbal attack" from Clarkson. Resulted in swollen and bleeding lip.[/i]
BBC had no choice.
full statement
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As stated, text from BBC is here
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/bbc/11480416/Jeremy-Clarkson-to-be-sacked-by-BBC-live.html
what will happen to all the staff of TG including the live shows, magazine, website etc?
I have friends at Immediate Media who produce the Top Gear magazine and syndicate it worldwide. There are hundreds of jobs at stake not just JC's.
There are hundreds of jobs at [b]stake[/b] not just JC's.
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what will happen to all the staff of TG including the live shows, magazine, website etc?
Maybe they should go and have a 'word' with Clarkson.
[i]There are hundreds of jobs at stake not just JC's. [/i]
It's a shame he chose, for whatever reason, to behave in a way that's left so many people who rely on Top Gear for their livelihood facing such an uncertain future. The man's a pillock.
Its not fair on them but can we please blame the drunk fella, who abused then chinned someone, rather than the BBC.
Interesting that the producer took himself to A&E for a bruised lip - looks like he was preparing to have a go at Clarkson.
I like TG and admit that the format needed an overhaul, but TG without Clarkson [and maybe H & M] will be a mere shadow of its former self and I doubt it will survive.... especially if the 3 take themselves and the format over to Sky or ITV.
Although I'm sure the BBC had no choice in the matter, whether todays move will prove costly is yet to be seen. I suspect it will.
I wouldn't be surprised to find out if this was what Clarkson wanted all along. He'd been on borrowed time at the BBC for a while, this way he gets to leave a tired show looking like the fallen hero to his fans. Should buy him a few more years notoriety/popularity.
Everyone thought that when Jonathan Ross left the BBC the world would stop spinning - it never happened. It's funny the way some elevate people like Clarkson to a God like status. Nobody will miss him after a few months.
So, he's not been sacked then?
If they do carry on with TG then it needs to be a completely fresh start. As much as I like May and Hammond, I can't see those two fitting around a replacement Clarkson. The three of them are great mates which added to the show. Without Clarkson that dynamic is gone.
New presenters and a revamped format.
Everyone thought that when Jonathan Ross left the BBC the world would stop spinning - it never happened.
Jonathan Ross didn't have a worldwide brand built around him.
They may re-invent it, but it won't be Top Gear without Clarkson. To see how rubbish a car show can be, just watch the really poor presenting on the Classic Car Show.
Everyone thought that when Jonathan Ross left the BBC the world would stop spinning
No, no they didn't and like wise with Jeremy Clarkson.
Either TG will appear on another channel with same presenters, or the BBC will wait a couple of years and start TG again.
Look what happened with the storm in a tea cup that was Johnathon Woss
No because they will all be watching the new show he'll do over on Sky....
It was inevitable that he would be sacked, and rightfully so*.
I still think it's ruined Top Gear though, and it will never be the same. may as well cancel it now.
* doesn't mean I don't like JC anymore, and hope him and the other two get a new show up and running soon.
Like his namesake, JC, was first castigated by the masses, then crucified, now we await his return from what a mere mortal such as us would accept as death, and instead of going to heaven he just goes down the road to SKY.
so we should give it 3 days then or wait until Easter Sunday?
Interesting that the producer took himself to A&E for a bruised lip - looks like he was preparing to have a go at Clarkson.
OH and can we not blame the victim either?
[quote=ninfan said]So, he's not been sacked then?
Looks like the beeb are being crafty and avoiding potential legal aggro by just letting his contract lapse.
Interesting that the producer took himself to A&E for a bruised lip - looks like he was preparing to have a go at Clarkson.
By having Clarkson report himself, he's clearly a cunning so and so?
One things nobody seems to be disputing is that he bawled the guy out and then assaulted him.
Regardless of all the other BS circulating about this these do appear to be the facts and in the circumstances I can't see how the Beeb could do anything else. If you chin another employee it's goodbye and goodnight and so it should be, regardless of who you are.
The most irritating thing now will be Clarkson's less sophisticated followers treating him as the most historically significant martyr since Joan of Arc.
I appear to be listening to Jonathan Ross on radio 2.
Some ban!
? the physical attack lasted around 30 seconds and was halted by the intervention of a witness;
? it is the case that Oisin Tymon offered no retaliation;
think the police should be involved. sustained unprovoked attack!
[i]I appear to be listening to Jonathan Ross on radio 2.[/i]
There's probably a support group you could join.
No loss - we'll be watching the 3 of them on Sky soon enough.
So I guess they'll re-invent Top Gear again, Evans says he won't do it though, he's an obvious choice really.
Do we actually know what the great pillock was in such a tizz about?
pondo - he decided to get to a hotel late and was told that he couldn't have steak and chips.
pondo - he decided to get to a hotel late and was told that he couldn't have steak and chips because Oisin had not done his job
pondo - he decided to get to a hotel late and was told that he couldn't have steak and chips because Oisin had not done his job
Oisin's a chef as well as a producer?
Oisin had not done his job
ah that justifies the assault then
Does it? Who said that?
[i]because Oisin had not done his job[/i]
not because Clarkson had made the helicopter that was due to pick him up and take him to the hotel wait for three hours whilst he drank in a pub then?
and, frankly, regardless of whether the bloke had done his job or not punching him was not an appropriate response.
I don't believe anyone said it was!
Do we actually know what the great pillock was in such a tizz about?
pondo - he decided to get to a hotel late and was told that he couldn't have steak and chips.
your edit.
pondo - he decided to get to a hotel late and was told that he couldn't have steak and chips because Oisin had not done his job
so why the edit and what are you insinuating ?
[i]so why the edit and what are insinuating ? [/i]
I didn't edit, ninfan failed to do his quoting properly.
I think ninfan should stop trying to cloud the issue.
A bloke punched someone he worked with and has quite rightly lost his job. The rest is irrelevant except for a bit of stw bickering.
I was just filling in the bit that was missed out
In other great news, it looks like the three of them come as a package!
it was directed at zulu not you 🙂
wwaswas - Memberpondo - he decided to get to a hotel late and was told that he couldn't have steak and chips.
Which deserted wasteland was this hotel located in, where there was nowhere within walking distance/taxi ride/helicopter flight to get to an all-night curry house? Was it that hell hole, the south east of England? 😆
[i]I was just filling in the bit that was missed out[/i]
but you chose to ignore the reason that Clarkson was late as being entirely within his control. So not all the bit that was missed out?
[i]it was directed at zulu not you[/i]
good here innit 😉
Statement from the victim (no, ninfan, the bloke that was hit)
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I don't believe the BBC report stated that Jeremy was responsible for them arriving late did it? Or are you relying on rumours again?
Edit, Klunk - regardless of Jezzas response being completley unacceptable (nobody has claimed otherwise) If it was Oisins job to sort the food, and he failed to do that, or inform the crew there was a problem with the food and they ought to pick up something on the way, then I can see why Clarkson might accuse him of not doing his job properly.
Klunk - Member
? the physical attack lasted around 30 seconds and was halted by the intervention of a witness;
? it is the case that Oisin Tymon offered no retaliation;think the police should be involved. sustained unprovoked attack!
30 seconds only? Usually a good fight would last longer.
Tymon did not retaliate because that's his choice. He did not stand up to himself that's also his choice.
To involve police? FFS! I hope I don't pay my tax to sort out this sort of minor shite. I bet there are people fighting and punching each others everyday and some of those fights are serious ones, whereas this 30 seconds "fight" is merely a hangbag fight.
JC could have punched that bloke a few more times because the consequences would be the same.
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It would have been better if Clarkson had somehow been made to make a public, somewhat humiliating, apology for the attack - citing that he had a drink/anger management problem - maybe checking himself into the Priory - and managed to keep his job, at least for this series.
If only to stop the loss of work for all the support staff.
That route might not have ended up with Clarkson a 'hero' to some - it could have ended up as some sort of public service announcement.
The BBC could have done a show about anger management issues, etc and had Clarkson feature...
[i]I don't believe the BBC report stated that Mr Tymon hadn't done his job properly? Or are you relying on rumours again? [/i]
Which deserted wasteland was this hotel located in, where there was nowhere within walking distance/taxi ride/helicopter flight to get to an all-night curry house? Was it that hell hole, the south east of England?
That'll teach him to stay in Wensleydale.
To involve police? FFS! I hope I don't pay my tax to sort out this sort of minor shite. I bet there are people fighting and [b]punching each others[/b] everyday and some of those fights are serious ones, whereas this 30 seconds "fight" is merely a hangbag fight.
why are you describing it as a fight ?
it is the case that Oisin Tymon offered no retaliation;
it was an assault not a fight.
wwaswas - MemberA bloke punched someone he worked with and has quite rightly lost his job. The rest is irrelevant except for a bit of stw bickering.
1. Denial.
2. Anger.
3. Bargaining.
4. Depression.
5. Acceptance.
I wonder if Mr Tymon sought any sort of compromise.
I don't believe anyone said it was!
You have not said it over and over and over and over again for a number of pages 😕
Even you cannot bring yourself to even offer a tentative defence as his behaviour is so bad - is this a first ? [ genuine q that ] Still lets keep having a pop at the victim eh 🙄
don't believe the BBC report stated that Mr Tymon hadn't done his job properly? Or are you relying on rumours again?
Pwned by ones own petard 😆
chewkw - MemberTo involve police? FFS! I hope I don't pay my tax to sort out this sort of minor shite. I bet there are people fighting and punching each others everyday and some of those fights are serious ones, whereas this 30 seconds "fight" is merely a hangbag fight.
So for exactly how long am I allowed to punch you before you call the police? Just [i]purely[/i] out of curiosity.
don't believe the BBC report stated that Mr Tymon hadn't done his job properly?
No, Jeremy stated that, just before ****ting him.
If it was Oisins job to sort the food, and he failed to do that, or inform the crew there was a problem with the food and they ought to pick up something on the way, then I can see why Clarkson might accuse him of not doing his job properly.
But Clarkson hasn't been released for "accusing Oisin of not doing his job properly", has he. And there's a big fat "If" at the front of your sentence that kind of renders the whole thing even more speculative.
[i]No, Jeremy stated that, just before ****ting him. [/i]
do you have a source for that or is it just rumour?
Jeremy stated that, just before ****ting him.
Sauce, please.
There was an interesting debate on R4 about this last week, It was explained that while at first glance it seems wrong to treat the stars as god like and refer to them as 'tallent' which devalues the contribution of the hundred of other tallented people working on the shows. That ultimately that was the job of the producers, to make the presenters feel good. As soon as you put them in anything other than a brilliantly good mood the whole show falls appart (even actors aren't perfect, let alone presenters), and that means everything has to be perfect, if they want a bottle of water then there has to be someone stood there behind the camera waiting with one, and as a result when things aren't perfect then little things become big issues.
They had some junior pesenter talking about how you go into it thinking it won't change you and you won't be aloof from the crew etc, then you have one bad day, the producer tries to gee you on, it gets worse. Then the next day you realise that actualy just letting everyone else make you happy results in a better end product and just let them get on with it as it's fairer on everyone as they're judged as much as you are by the ucess of the show.
So for exactly how long am I allowed to punch you before you call the police? Just purely out of curiosity.
if its to knock some sense into him we may have to form an orderly queue and work out a rota system 😉
Sauce, please.
Peppercorn or Mushroom?
At least we got Gillian Anderson before it was axed. Phew.
As soon as you put them in anything other than a brilliantly good mood the whole show falls appart
Just do your ****ing job without having your ego stroked and your every [ irrational] whim and rider list catered for.
Why do they need to do this?
Cant the talent not act like dicks?
Much as I think he's a knob I quite like working with Jeremy
James May
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Just do your **** job without having your ego stroked and your every [ irrational] whim and rider list catered for.
Is that what Jeremy said?