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...Lancia Stratos and Delta Integralé.
Please can I win the lottery so I can have one of each, [i]please[/i].
Don't mention Top Gear!
They made a 'Gay' joke again! There'll be a riot in here.
Mmmmmmm
good episode tonight - until they got that moron evans on
I felt a shiver when the Stratos appeared and I will have an Integralé one day.
I cant watch top gear anymore, its scripted garbage now, just two blokes begging jeremy clarkson to give him a rusty trombone
...Lancia Stratos and Delta Integralé.
Please can I win the lottery so I can have one of each, please.
You sir have sickeningly good taste.
Delta Integrale Evo in red for me please.
Evo 2 intergrale is my dream car, can't believe they did'nt show the S4 that was a bonkers car ever by lancia standards.
Even by TG standards, the 'push the fit birds to the front of the crowd' tactic tonight is a bit blatant...
I got to drive a Delta GTi once - the Integrale would be very nice.
But that Stratos copy - stick a reliable engine in it, get someone to tune the suspension and brakes ( do TFTuned do fake Lancias?) and that looks like a sensible everyday car to me
I used to have a Lancia Delta HF Turbo. It was a great car a real pocket rocket of its time and I never had any trouble with it. The day after I sold it to a guy in North London the police came round my house as it was still registered to me. They had found it abandoned with its whole rear axle ripped away. Turns out the guy I sold it to lost control on a bend and totalled it! I was so gutted. I knew shouldn't have sold it to him as he mentioned that he had just written off his Cosworth.
Was a bit better tonight, actually had some cars in it! i do think its time for a complete rebuild? refresh? something needs to change as it feels a tad bit predictable, maybe to actually do a car review? when was the last time they did that? and i don't mean a supercar, the last one i remember was the Fiat 500 and that was a while ago.
It makes things worse that 5th gear are trying to copy the same boyish pranks and failing!
Get rid of May and Hammond.
A female presenter would balance the show nicely and it wouldn't hurt if she was attractive!
When I was young and single I had an 8 valve Integrale for about a year. Greatest car ever. Still look amazing. Every few weeks I look on ebay at them and get an itchy finger. Not the quickest car around now but still the only car I really want.
best of the series so far, the first two were poor
the caravan air balloon was pants and the celebrity lap thing is boring, I normally do something else while that is on
I think it was the best for a long while - it think they have balanced the silliness (spelling mistake? oh well) for kids/sterotype females well with the car nut material... and Chris Evans was the best guest since Jay whoever (america chat show host)
As someone who had "pre fiat" lancia's, namely Fulvia's I never really had any problems that the later cars suffered from.
They were over enginered, panels fitted a treat evern the electrics were no problems. I did have rusty wheel arches but not un common at the tme with many makes of car. With the Fulvia you used a Hillman wheel arch which was much cheaper & fitted a treat.
Fab cars, oh the handling what a joy, some things were odd like first gear on the dog leg but then again how oftern did you use first gear when out on the road.
Still got a tool kit & manuals & would love to have one again just for the joy of it.
What was Jeremy wearing please?
anybody know where the lancia section was shot?
Somewhere in Wales, I'll ask my mate 😉
Two of my all-time favourite cars in one episode - the Delta Integrale and the Stratos!!!!!! I would love an Evo 3 Integrale, my mates got one and it's fantastic.
and not the dales?
can't believe they did'nt show the S4 that was a bonkers car ever by lancia standards.
Yeah I was a bit gutted at that too. I suppose that whilst it might have been the most technologically advanced car in Lancias history, the early death of Group B and the relative lack of success of the S4 (and the fact that WAY less than the 200 of them claimed were made) meant it was probably much easier for the TG team to gloss over it than to feature it... Sadly!
Glad the 037 got a bit of airtime as it's often much overlooked too, the fact it could keep up with, and beat the Audi Quattro was amazing! Integrale was just way ahead of its time, hence how good it was. I mean, look at the competition. Ford were trying to compete with a bloody great saloon car, Toyota's Celica was still way too big til the mid 90's and Lancia had signed all the best drivers... No way they could fail!
Still love the Stratos more so than any other Rally Car ever, what a machine. I'm so glad they featured the Hawk too, ok it's a kit car, but has there ever been another kit car that looks quite so spot on to the original I don't think. Honestly, you couldn't tell them apart from the outside I reckon. Just need to get a reliable build together, with a decent engine (hello 3.2 V6 out of a 156 GTA! And am I the only person that thinks the V6 in the Hawk sounded decidedly poorly, like it was running on less than 6 cylinders?) and WOW! GIMME GIMME GIMME... 😛
Oh, and Chris Evans, mere amateur car nut compared to Brian Johnson fetching the Sunday papers in his Le Mans Blower Bentley, and Jay Leno picking up undercover cops in his MacLaren F1!
still, evans has taste as much as he's slated and not afraid to show people his collection. May ask him if he needs his leaves picked up or gate bolted just to see his cars.
Show was average, lambo was not given enough time and thought about an EVO 3 years ago, but left hand drive and reliability put me off being my only car
Cant stand top gear anymore - so contrived !!
I don't believe they didn't put the lambo or the integrale round the track...
Anyone spot the hole in JC's shoe when he climbed into that car. The fat tight git.
Loved watching that "Stratos" wriggling away on the track & that Stig, not only once did he spin & recover but twice on the same lap - he da Man..
Do you believe that the spins were both 'accidental'(The second one, especially, was very neatly executed...) and on the same lap and that all the tail-sliding was necessary?
Don't believe everything that you see on TV.
It was a much better episode this week, more-so for me watching on iPlayer and missing out the 'balloon' and 'the News' bits
There are some fairly hot Lancias running on the European hillclimb circuits, namely Bruno Ianello & Felix Pailer, both well over 600bhp
Saw an original Stratos once in a car park, I was frozen to the spot staring at it until the owner came out of a shop and let me have a look at the engine. I've seen a Delorean and a Speed12 but that Stratos is still number 1, sad to say I remember that much about it that I can even point to the spot it was parked in.
Walters area near glyn neath and Banwen apparently, South Wales.
There are some fairly hot Lancias running on the European hillclimb circuits, namely Bruno Ianello & Felix Pailer, both well over 600bhp
That Delta S4 in the first vid has got some serious Supercharger whine going on... Yet you can still hear the kick of the turbo coming on boost under acceleration on top of it! MAD!!!
And yeah, the Stig's spins did look a bit rehearsed, but the Stratos was built to be very unstable (hence easy to flick into tight corners), so I can totally believe how much he was wrestling to keep it in a straight line down the straights...
Still reckon the only driver to really get to grips with a Stratos was Sandro Munari, have wanted one ever since seeing them going through Clocaenog on the RAC rally.
Oh and never mind the S4, what about the S4 GroupS with a reported 1200bhp?!
My fave GroupB car was the 6r4 and even managed to get a ride in one, have to admit I was a little over excited by it 😳
Saw an original Stratos once in a car park, I was frozen to the spot staring at it until the owner came out of a shop and let me have a look at the engine. I've seen a Delorean and a Speed12 but that Stratos is still number 1, sad to say I remember that much about it that I can even point to the spot it was parked in.
Heheeee!
I did something like that the first time I saw an Alfa SZ. I was driving at the time and I nearly crashed! 🙂
'Top Gear' went downhill after it featured my T16 Maestro in 1997. 😛
STRATOS = AWESOME. In real life they look minute, I defo would love to have a "do" in one of them. 😆
@ Aristotle - you CANT make a car handle that badly unless its a dog..Watch it again, that thing is all over the place from the word go..Diving hideously under braking, rear-end squirming like a spaniels arse under any kind of power, more opposite lock than I new existed..That wasnt staged man, no way!
Getting really sick of TG messing about!
What was all that crap about the airship? Total waste of my licence fee. If I want to watch sh1t, I'll watch the X-Factor.
I can just about cope with all the hyper-car stuff if it's about the car, but the first 20 mins of each prog so far and the has been complete and utter bo11ox.
And Lancia's were rubbish, are rubbish and have always been rubbish.
Well, no one was saying that Lancias were fantastic cars, just that they were pretty cars compromised by appalling build quality. Even the Stratos was picked apart by Hammond and Clarkson. The Delta Integralé didn't get away unscathed, as Lancia didn't do a RHD version, but it was a much better built car than any previous Lancia. The Stratos was a limited run Homologation special, so was [i]never[/i] going to be built to production car standards. Doesn't stop either being highly desirable. That Hawk was impressive, but I'd want to get one built by someone who knows how to put a car together so it's reliable, the brakes work properly, the suspension is correctly set up and the engine and g/box have been thoroughly checked over and possibly rebuilt. A 3.2 V6 does sound good...And Lancia's were rubbish, are rubbish and have always been rubbish.
I remember seeing a works Stratos go past my house on the way to a special stage at Longleat on the RAC Rally; what a sound, could hear it all the way out towards Lacock, and that's four miles away. Yum.
..That wasnt staged man, no way!
Of course it was. You're not telling me that 'The Stig' -a skilled racing driver (who can recover neatly from a 360) didn't manage a lap without spinning. He'd have quickly sussed-out where he could and couldn't push it and then gone out and put in a reasonable time -that's what racers do.
Granted, the front dampers looked to be shot and short wheelbase like that would make for twitchy handling.
What was the point of doing a Power Lap in a worn-out kit car at all though?
i tried to watch a bit of it but was some ridiculous hot air balloon caravan thing so turned it off after 5 mins
not a huge fan anyway but its ok as background entertainment, sometimes!
Why don't people understand Top Gear is an enterainment program? Hence the bits like the airship. Also the scripted jokes. If you want a review of a Ford Focus LX buy a copy of "What Boring Car Monthly" and switch off when Top Gear starts.
Also the scripted jokes
There is a slight art to comedy, and if it's obvious that all the jokes are scripted and contrived, then something has gone wrong in the writing.
I wouldn't be surprised if he couldn't keep a check on that Stratos replica, they were a handful at the best of times, a road going copy built in a garage isn't going to be setup as well as it could be, and they were a mare to drive on wet tarmac as it was. They probably gave up trying to get a clean hot lap and decided to do some showboating. Sounded lovely to me, that alfa lump is OK.
anybody know where the lancia section was shot?
All the road stuff was shot on the Black Mountain and a bit on the A4059, Hirwaun-Storey Arms road.
Fantastic roads around me, both to drive and ride.
Magazines and TV are often around the area "testing".
I really like cars. I used to really like Top Gear when they did car reviews. Utter garbage now, straight to Dave ja vue....
mavisto - MemberWhat was all that crap about the airship? Total waste of my licence fee. If I want to watch sh1t, I'll watch the X-Factor.
God, I hate it when that old chestnut gets rolled out when somebody doesn't like something on tv. You realise the BBC don't make all their programmes exclusively for you right? And that they have 4 channels running simultaneously at that time of night all with different shows on aimed at different audiences? And a 24 hour news channel. Not to mention a host of radio channels and a huge website.
And how much do they make from selling Top Gear to tv networks all over the world?
Why don't people understand Top Gear is an enterainment program?
Yes, but some people are saying it's not very entertaining anymore - because it's so creaky and scripted.
Only watched 20mins so can't comment on the whole show - but that routine about B&O hi-fi made me cringe for them.
There is a slight art to comedy, and if it's obvious that all the jokes are scripted and contrived, then something has gone wrong in the writing.
I disagree. Comedy is all about timing - delivered well, even the most obvious of joke can make you laugh.
Perhaps not the greatest exponents of comedy to use as an example, but Ant & Dec tell joke after joke after joke which are glaringly obvious but they deliver them quite well and can raise a laugh.
And to compare this to TG, you KNOW they are going to rip into Hammond for being small and the other one for being boring and borderline homosexual but because you know it is coming it can become funnier.
All the jokes and the flying caravan aside it wasn't a brilliant episode but still fun to watch. The Delta HF Integrale. Mmmmm, just something about this car that makes me want it. V8_shin_print from here has one in red and I sometimes pass it on my way back from uni. It looks sooo good I just want one really bad. Fifth Gear was doing a shoot out (should be on Youtube) and had the HF racing against older M3.
I don't know whether anyone watched an episode of TopGear where he tested a Polonez 🙂 There was a one off Polonez factory race car with an engine from a crashed Stratos (called StartoPolonez).
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Ugly as hell not like the Startos 🙂
If you want boring reviews of boring cars then buy one of the magazines. I won't watch Top Gear if all I get is an hour of nasal monotone about average cupholder count and an evaluation of how well the glovebox light works.
Thought the caravan airship was great, if somewhat staged (there's no way that trundle through Norwich zone was accidental), and they've had something to make me laugh on every week.
In fact, the only bit I don't like is the SIARPC, and with Chris Evans it was pretty good. As so many other people have said, if you don't like it, don't watch it.
Hamsters review of the Lambo was pretty p!ss poor too, I really did not see the point. Would have been better off with the Skoda that towed the caravan, which looked like a Saab.
Perhaps thet didn't elude to the Group B S4 because more great drivers got killed in them than any of the other GRoup B cars i can think of
The "GREAT HENRI TOIVENEN" Whose death unfortunately was the last straw for Group B !
Perhaps roumours of using Nitrous in the fire extinguishers didn't help !
Cut my teeth on 6R4's then RS 200's but never had much to do with the S4
Did do an engine for an Alitalia Stratos tho 😀
Probably no quicker than a good Gpn Subaru or evo with modern technology
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Did do an engine for an Alitalia Stratos tho
Probably no quicker than a good Gpn Subaru or evo with modern technology
Quite possibly, but then they didn't have the tech, so it's a moot point. The Stratos is blessed with drop-dead looks and a noise that makes every hair on your body stand to attention. While I like Scoobies and EVO's, they [i]don't[/i]evoke the same emotional response, ie lust!
How about Andy Burton's creations?
you mean this beast
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That and the AlfaFerrari
Then latterly with a 6R4 engine 😀
Built bt a good friend of mine
Modern turbocharged rally cars are so boring to watch even if they are quick ,i agreee
Ant & dec funny?!!!! Next you'll be saying michael mcintyre is hilarious.
Now there is someone who is so blatently unfunny.
I liked the flying caravan. Best bit. The daft challenges are always the best bits.
When they start talking about the latest Merc or BMW or homo-erotic cockwaving supercar* I go and do the washing up.
* except Lamborghinis, which any right-minded individual will agree are ace
Lamborghini=Premiership Footballers Audi.
Flaperon - MemberIf you want boring reviews of boring cars then buy one of the magazines. I won't watch Top Gear if all I get is an hour of nasal monotone about average cupholder count and an evaluation of how well the glovebox light works.
Thought the caravan airship was great, if somewhat staged (there's no way that trundle through Norwich zone was accidental), and they've had something to make me laugh on every week.
In fact, the only bit I don't like is the SIARPC, and with Chris Evans it was pretty good. As so many other people have said, if you don't like it, don't watch it.
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