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I'm 22, I've been on STW for a good long time now but never become suitably annoyed to vent publicly.
Now is the time.
For the last 9 months I've taken time between graduating and working to ride full time, I've raced cross in Belgium and ridden all over europe training.
I live in the Peak and when rolling to Hathersage for my regular cafe stop I counted 25 riders during the 45min spin who didn't wave back. This isn't cool.It's nice to be friendly and look out for each other!
Remember all. No one is too pro to wave.
Bruce
Could you provide a pie chart of the types of riders who aren't waving. We really need some data to help us understand this hitherto unreported issue.
It's probably all the STW roadie converts. Bought a race bike, slammed it. Now leaning so hard on the bars that a wave would see them into the scenery.
Is this on the road?
I avoid men in skin tight clothing like the plague, whether they're on a bicycle or not, especially if they're waving at me!
I agree. It's just rude.
People think I'm mad when I wave at other people on similar transport to me, but I'm used to it. My arm does get a bit tired on the m6 though.
Maybe they're all waving at you in a pro-way, and you've missed it? Index finger raised 1 mm off the bars. Maybe 2mm for you Bruce, out of respect.
Don't sweat it. It really doesn't matter. If they don't stop when you've flatted and forgotten your pump/spare tube, then you can start complaining.
FWIW I'm in 'Europe' and most pros don't wave either.
[i]working to ride full time, I've raced cross in Belgium and ridden all over europe training.[/i]
They were obviously too intimidated by you.
You can't even ride your bike without requiring the attention of other riders? Are you really that needy?
I live in Europe and if i waved at all the riders I see every time I'm out on my bike, my arm would left be too weak to masturbate.
Maybe this is it.. this is just on the road, never had it off-road. I might just wave more aggressively
[quote=MSP said]
I live in Europe and if i waved at all the riders I see every time I'm out on my bike, my arm would left be too weak too masturbate.
Combine the two ?
roadies, miserable f'rs really, are you one of them?
[i] if i waved at all the riders I see every time I'm out on my bike, my arm would left be too weak to masturbate[/i]
Whereas if you just masturbate too much your ability to type a coherent sentence goes out the window?
Northerners probably. Saw about a dozen out on my ride around West Berks and Hampshire on Sunday and exchanged waves with all.
🙂It's probably [s]all the STW roadie converts[/s] Hora and his new lycra chums.
You need to try harder mate. Next time accompany the wave with your loudest and campest "HIIIIYYYYAAAAA" and keep shouting it until the miserable gits wave back.
Been a while since a 'roadie didn't wave to me' thread. Good to see some traditions refuse to die 🙂
[quote=bikerbruce ] I've raced crossI think you'll find that [i]this[/i] is the problem.
I still give the Motorbike Nod, even when driving or cycling, that's obviously stupid. But it's never occurred to me to wave to a cyclist and apparently it's never occured to another cyclist to wave at me. Is it even a thing?
I've been on STW for a good long time now but never noticed a thread about cyclists waving before
😉
If someone refuses to wave back, you need to turn around, catch them up (should be easy if you've raced cross in Belgium) and make them do so. If they really won't then push them off. It's the only way to get them to learn.
I prefer waving at aeroplanes. It means I always get a seat on the bus.
Not just roadies. I've been riding Swinley for many years and have to say it has sadly become the most unfriendly place. Saturdays you may get the occasional 'good morning' but Sundays I have given up trying to say hi, good morning etc..
bikerbruce - Member
never had it off
I think I see the problem. Stop waving so much and you won't be
MSP - Member
left too weak to masturbate.
and everyone's happy 🙂
I still give the Motorbike Nod, even when driving or cycling, that's obviously stupid.
I do that 😳 🙂
bikerbruce - we've done this to death.
Possible explanations are:
- they did a minimal finger twitch or imperceptible nod that you didn't see
- they were so far in the zone they didn't even see you
- they were ignorant ****s
- they think you're a ****
HTH
EDIT: why can't we have the right number of asterisks? I'm using the same word twice but as a plural the first time and it offends my pedantry to have only 4 asterisks instead of 5 😡
I still give the Motorbike Nod,
Go to any, absolutely any, motorcycle forum and search for a 'they didn't nod back' thread. You won't have to look far.
I love waving at busses whilst stood at the side of the road. Always guarantees lots of confused looks from people on the the bus and the occasionally wave back...
I was once unloading 2 MTBs from the car in Castleton, two roadies went past and said out loud 'they can all drive and ride', so I shouted 'ayyye', he shouted 'aye' back.
Northern roadies are grumpy stiltskins.
I love waving at [s]busses[/s] trains whilst stood at the side of the [s]road[/s] track. Always guarantees lots of [s]confused[/s] terrified looks from people on the [s]the bus[/s] train and they occasionally wave back..
🙂
I find a single finger of expression is all I need to do 😆
I find passing roadies to be a generally friendly bunch
MrNice - Member
…or imperceptible nod that you didn't see
It’s yer Kill Bill innit – they were (obviously) Shaolin monks:
“As the monk and the priest crossed paths, Pai Mei, in a practically unfathomable display of generosity, gave the monk the slightest of nods. The nod was not returned.
Now, was it the intention of the Shaolin monk to insult Pai Mei? Or did he just fail to see the generous social gesture? The motives of the monk remain unknown.”
I say thanks to cash machines because they give me money and say hello to attractive(that's all if your me) female cyclists. The rest of you can drop dead tomorrow.
This btw must surely be stw done to death thread #3
Rubber_Buccaneer - MemberGo to any, absolutely any, motorcycle forum and search for a 'they didn't nod back' thread. You won't have to look far.
Yeah, but it's an actual thing that people do. Cyclists waving at cyclists? I'm not saying it's a bad idea or anything, it's just that I've never seen it happen.
Northwind - MemberYeah, but it's an actual thing that people do. Cyclists waving at cyclists? I'm not saying it's a bad idea or anything, it's just that I've never seen it happen.
i think bikerbruce just waved at you
Learn to swear loudly in french
Standards have fallen dreadfully. AA men used to salute members.
Bruce you have never waved at me when I have driven past you 🙁
when did they tell you about it? Is it the used bike salesman who gives you the rule book or does the DVLA let you know when you register ownership?Yeah, but it's an actual thing that people do
From the sheer number of threads on here it sounds like a lot of cyclists think waving is an actual thing that people do
Typically the old boys and families always say hello or nod. Its the TDF wannabes who take riding so seriously that rarely acknowledge other riders.
Same in MTB'ing really. Younger guys killed out in full enduro fluro kit with zero social skills. Always going to get elitist muppets in any sport.
Try shouting "Cheer up you miserable ****" That normally does the trick.
Try shouting "Cheer up you miserable ****" That normally does the trick.
Why don't you just try being less needy instead.
It is actually rather rude to expect to break into someones peace and quiet. Why do you need every other rider to acknowledge your existence, are you suffering from some mental disorder?
"Too pro to wave" stickers, anyone? Shame they'd only really work on the back of a bike.
You've never waved at me in a cross race Bruce, all I usually hear is on your left/right and whoosh there you go. I wave and you just ride off into the distance 😆
You need one of my patented stickers, benji...
You need one of my patented stickers, benji...
Sounds like it, but what are your forecasted sales for the next three years, and will yield what gross and net profit.
I might be in, depending on the answer.
First year net sales of £3.71m with a gross margin of £4.77m, net £5.66m
By my valuation that makes Mountain Molehill Sticker Enterprises worth £47 billion so I'll offer you 1% at £4b.
I'll take that as a yes and sign you up. You'll have the papers in the morning.
Always amusing that those too rude to wave are always the rudest on waving threads.
🙂
nemesis - Member
First year net sales of £3.71m…
No – you haven’t researched the potential competition.
Why don't you just try being less needy instead.It is actually rather rude to expect to break into someones peace and quiet. Why do you need every other rider to acknowledge your existence, are you suffering from some mental disorder?
Why don't you try searching for a sense of humour.
Also move to somewhere totally remote, where you don't have to suffer the horror of other humans being friendly, you miserable sod.
Thanks sands. I have now revised my forecast and doubled all my figures on the basis that I can print the stickers saying 'Not too pro to wave' and people can cut off / leave on the 'Not' as appropriate, doubling my market 😉
D0NK - Memberwhen did they tell you about it? Is it the used bike salesman who gives you the rule book or does the DVLA let you know when you register ownership?
It's part of the CBT. You don't need to wave if you've held a car licence since before 2001 though.
D0NK - MemberFrom the sheer number of threads on here it sounds like a lot of cyclists think waving is an actual thing that people do
The threads are all about cyclists [i]not[/i] waving 😉
If someone waves I'd either wave back or be too surprised to wave back but it's not me trying to be rude. Is it because I is flat barred?
I get scared when I take my hands off the bars. It usually means I'm falling off.
Why don't you try searching for a sense of humour.
I have a sense of humour, i am chuckling away at all the people who are so desperate for attention they can't handle someone else on a bike not noticing their waving.
Not sure about waving lol but I usually do the barely perceptible nod
A lot of it stems from motorbiking when someone is exiting your favourite corner and pops a minger with a cheery wave just as you are going the other way on the brakes and concentrating 100%
[i]pops a minger[/i]
this probably isn't what I think it is.
I have a sense of humour, i am chuckling away at all the people who are so desperate for attention they can't handle someone else on a bike not noticing their waving.
Yup, right barrel of laughs aren't you.
It is actually rather rude to expect to break into someones peace and quiet.
You must be great fun at parties.
I'm laughing at the people laughing at other people 😉
Aww didums, why not go out on a bike ride and wave at strangers in a desperate attempt to validate your existence. While your at it why not wave at everyone as you walk along the street, and at all the people as you go shopping, and at the nice men who accompany you to your comfortable padded cell.
You must be great fun at parties.
Not as much fun as you I'm sure
I was riding my road bike through Clitheroe the other Sunday, looking relatively pro apart from my belly.
Waved and said "how do" to a guy pedalling a Miami Vice-coloured Nomad up the other way.
Nothing.
I know it was one of you miserable buggers.
I've raced cross in Belgium and ridden all over europe training.
In which case you'll know that in Belgium especially, no-one waves.
When you're riding, that's training time. Put your head down and get on with it.
When you get to the cafe stop, you chat with other cyclists who may be there.
Then when you get back on your bike, you're training and you get on with it.
Mostly cos if you waved at every other rider you saw, you'd be riding with one hand off the bars the whole damn time!
bikerbruce - Member
Maybe this is it.. this is just on the road, never had it off-road. I might just wave more aggressively
Just lob a water bottle at them, that seems to be SOP whenever I watch large groups of roadies out for a group social on the telly.
FWIW, I usually just nod to other cyclists, irrespective of what they're riding, most nod back. Minimal effort involved, and doesn't risk possible loss of control through only having one hand on the bars on a potholed road.
Perhaps the obvious simple solution isn't obvious to others.
Aww didums, why not go out on a bike ride and wave at strangers in a desperate attempt to validate your existence. While your at it why not wave at everyone as you walk along the street, and at all the people as you go shopping, and at the nice men who accompany you to your comfortable padded cell.
I'm ok thanks, I'll carry on as usual, saying hello and nodding to people if I feel like it and acknowledging people if they do the same. Generally being friendly to fellow cyclists.
You carry on being a miserable shit bag and the status quo is maintained.
What tires for waving?
In all seriousness I tend to nod rather than wave.
But mostly I don't bother getting upset if its not reciprocated.
Oh and:
looking relatively pro apart from my belly.
Nothing personal but the belly bit makes it as far from "pro" looking as jeans, t shirt and flip flops.
I'm ok thanks, I'll carry on as usual, saying hello and nodding to people if I feel like it and acknowledging people if they do the same. Generally being friendly to fellow cyclists.You carry on being a miserable shit bag and the status quo is maintained.
It's laughable that you are so upset that stranger doesn't want to respond to your desperate need for attention that you label them a miserable shit bag. I am perfectly happy and full of the joys of life when out on a solo ride and I don't need anyone else to make me happy.
It is just plane weird to expect that everyone else doing the same activity as you should be your friend, it displays the emotional stability of a puppy, just grow up and stop needing everyone else to shower you with attention.
Sometimes I might nod at passing cyclists, often I am just lost in my own thoughts, one of the reasons I will go on a solo ride is to get a little me time and just get away from everyone, a lot of other cyclists are the same. Stop trying to dictate to everyone how they should enjoy their rides to fit into your need for attention.
it's when you start waving to animals in fields that you should start questioning your sanity (not that i do anything of the sort,not me guv 😳
I do this, particularly the solitary horse. The bastards never wave back. However it somehow hurts less than being ignored by a cyclist.
[i]it's when you start waving to animals in fields[/i]
I never wave to animals, they can't wave back.
I do talk to them though on the off chance they fancy a chat.
I'm guessing all the wavers are friendly, Northern types while the antis are miserable Southerners?
Northerners don't wave. We might raise a finger off the bars if feeling particularly cheerful.
I'm guessing all the wavers are friendly, Northern types while the antis are miserable Southerners?
I'm guessing all the anti wavers have friends they can arrange a social ride with when they want, and all the wavers are lonely weirdos that normal people avoid in social situations.
I am perfectly happy and full of the joys of life when out on a solo ride and I don't need anyone else to make me happy.
Just please don't acknowledge me or you will ruin my little bubble of solitude.
Really ruins my day when I am lost in my own world and someone has the bare faced cheek to say hello 😆
I've raced cross in Belgium
I've ridden angry in France, is that enough to be counted as a pro? 😉
eurgh...
Me and the kids often take the long way home when I'm ferrying them about in the trailer so that we can take in the 2 mile stretch of seafront (especially if they are tired and cantankerous.. It never fails to send them off to sleep)
It's a busy wide shared path popular with folk on bikes and folk out for a stroll along the prom..
I smiled at a couple of folks we passed the other day and it made me feel like a total weirdo
never again
I smiled at a couple of folks we passed the other day and it made me feel like a total weirdo
I'm surprised they didn't report you to the Police for that sort of thing....
i bought an Alfa Romeo once, im not much of a petrol head i just liked it... until i started getting flashed (ahem) waved and nodded at from drivers of other Alfa's! freaks
I'm always surprised other riders think that just because we are both on a bicycle we need to be "friends" and wave. you could be riding an elephant for all I care
I'm surprised they didn't report you to the Police for that sort of thing....
I scrubbed myself in the shower for hours when I got home, but I fear that the stench of self loathing will never truly wash away
On the road bike - I've missed saying hi back loads of times. By the time its registered/about to say hi back they've passed.
At a slower pace theres absolutely no excuse- even on steep descents I still get in a 'how doo' or hi to walkers who let me pass.

