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So, I'm going down this hill, which has one of the shittest cycle paths - it appears and disappears as some pillock with a tin of red paint saw fit, but there's always a queue of traffic down the hill. So at this point the nice lady in the black SLK wants to overtake me to get oh, much closer to the queue of traffic
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I prefer her not to overtake, as she will only be another car in my way when the road narrows and the traffic slows (right turn junction causes the slow down) and there's NO REASON for her to overtake!
So I establish my position. This goes on for a little while.
Then we reach the wide cycle/bus lane, so I turn and wave her past! But, no now she doesn't want to get nice and snug with the back of the queue, now she wants to open her window and converse with me...
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I say I can't hear you, you unintelligent woman and there was no point in you trying to get in front of me. I can't hear what she's saying.
Then I get a few cars in front when the traffic queues again.
We go up a hill and at this point, when she overtakes, she throws something metal out the window at me (it misses).
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What do you think, did I bring this on myself? Did I go looking for trouble cos I had a camera on my bars ( 🙄 ). Or should I report the silly cow?
report the silly cow?
Throwing metal things out of a window at you. Even if you were in the wrong (and I'm not saying you are!) it's gotta be reported. Could have caused avery serious accident.
Report.
Report the silly cow and get it on record.
Next time break her wing mirror off
Lets see the vid 🙂
And bung it on YouTube with her number plate in the title, too
report the silly cow
yup. I've had stuff flung at me in busy traffic and no recording device. Reporting her does more good than youtube, youtube just gets comments and arguments...
Report, let the court hear what she had to say.
Report her
Was it a note with her phone number? You might be in there
I think you brought this on yourself. You have audacity to ride your bike on a road which as I'm sure you know belongs only to drivers and then whine when someone try's to injury you by hurling a metal projectile at your head.
Can I suggest you get a car like a grown up?
Oh hang on just sat down myself after daily commute. I'm on your side. Of bloody course i am. Report her. You're doing every one of the lads and lasses on this forum a favour.
Was it a note with her phone number? You might be in there
+1
[i]Was it a note with her phone number? You might be in there[/i]
She was rather physically attractive with a very short skirt on 😯
Problem is, I'm in such a good mood today, cos my bike all works ok and there were massive tailbacks on the route I go if I drive! I'm sure I would get annoyed normally, but I just found it funny.
Is there an online reporting thing, so I don't have to make the effort of phoning?
hang on, I'll edit the video. Can't hear anything except road noise, cos the cam is on my bars.
report it as you have her reg fairly clearly
Does the vid catch the object being thrown
Attractive with a very short skirt. Hang on Jimmy Saville she's a road user not a piece of meat.
[i]Does the vid catch the object being thrown[/i]
no, it was something small like a [s]bullet vibrator[/s] ladies compact.
[i]Jimmy Saville[/i]? Oi that's a bit much! She had to be over 18 to be driving an SLK, surely?
True mate apologies
DezB - MemberShe was rather physically attractive with a very short skirt on
Hang on a minute you are supposed to be looking ahead.
So what does she look like?
Did she hitch up her skirt on purpose?
😯
Report it, I've had several things thrown at me whilst commuting but it's always been at night and I wasn't able to get their reg, one time two cars did it in convoy and actually turned their lights off! Had I obtained the reg I would have gone round myself, in uniform! Phone the non emergency police number to report it with the reg number of the car, at the very least an officer could go round and speak with her. I could check the reg here and now myself but not really appropriate!
Trevor.
I was once hit by a full bottle of orange juice (quite heavy) thrown at me from a car by a young lad in a car, who's mate was driving aggressively towards me in traffic, whilst I was cycling. Thankfully, there were a number of witnesses, one of whom took the registration number. The perpetrator was found, taken to court and found guilty of assault.
Don't suppose you collected the object? Fingerprints on the assault weapon would certainly help the case.
bombers at the ready...
Prolly a lipstick ?
Its because you dont pay road tax .
No pay = No say , obviously.
Very pretty lady though , maybe she was attracted to those sideburns?
And you ride agressively as you have a camera on your bars and are out looking for trouble , like Edward Woodwood off of the Equaliser series.
Shame really as it was a nice afternoon , sunshine and a tail wind home.
wee in her Jimmy choos , that will learn her
Pretty fast there , you is motoring too.
[i]maybe she was attracted to those sideburns?[/i]
Think I'm in there? 🙂
Nice of the council to paint little bike logos on the road though....
Are they marking where other cyclists met their demise?
So what does she look like?
Like this
Get her details, get in touch, explain that you by law need to contact the police about this, but perhaps you can 'come to an agreement'
Sorted!
Well it is Portsmouth, did you expect much more?
[i]Well it is Portsmouth, did you expect much more?[/i]
Waterlooville, I'll have you know. Far posher.
I woul dhave been in the entire lane from much earlier on as you are at the same speed as the other vehicles and she could not have got level with you
that said really WTF was she trying to do there was nowhere for her to go.
i like the way they take time out their fast paced life to tell you how little time they have and how you have held them up.
I always just laugh at this.
I would still report her
[quote=Junkyard ]I woul dhave been in the entire lane from much earlier on as you are at the same speed as the other vehicles and she could not have got level with you+1
Which is why it's so annoying when they put in one of those half-hearted cycle lanes. I feel all guilty for not using them 😳
Problem is, I'm in such a good mood today, cos [s]my bike all works[/s] I'm listening to some mellow jazzy jazz
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If you do pull her will you have reached 9.3?
[i]I woul dhave been in the entire lane from much earlier on as you are at the same speed as the other vehicles and she could not have got level with you
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How can you say this?! I come out of a side road onto that bus lane, then join the traffic - immediately she's trying to edge in front. Jeez its lime TJ all over again!
I am not trying to argue or annoy but if you pulled into the lane there was obviously space and you could have taken up the whole lane once in the road /not in the bus lane
to repeat
[b]that said really WTF was she trying to do there was nowhere for her to go.[/b]
IE it was her fault
I'm constantly having this situation and have resorted to getting in the way deliberately to avoid it. It seems to be a case of the drivers just not looking far enough ahead to realise the traffic has stopped or is going slowly.
I'm in two minds as to whether it's really worth it, on the one hand it aggravates the driver behind (who by the way I never see again once the traffic does stop) but it gives them more evidence to be biker non friendly, maybe just let them get those extra few metres by catching the traffic and ride past regardless as I would have to do with all of the cars infront anyway..
Hovering next to me is the real issue, that never feels safe. When drivers just overtake and get it done I'm much happier.
Either way, throwing stuff is not on!
[quote=DezB ]Jeez its lime TJ all over again!
Lime TJ??
Like! i never type,well onthe iPad (see)
You want a proper laptop with a keyboard and stuff, you do.
It a car driver thing. They MUST get past the bike in front of you regardless. Even if it's on a blind bend with a red traffic light and a juggernaut coming at you.
Report. IME Hants road policing unit do take an interest in aggressive behaviour. Reported a road rage incident a couple of years back and they seemed very keen to go have a word when someone pounded on my window at spat at me for daring to suggest they hung up their hand held mobile phone.
Down in the South East they just drive past you as if you are in a different lane. They get half way past then slow down for the queue.
See the recent thread about taking the lane...
poor road positioning, slow traffic and islands - you should have pulled out of the bus lane earlier and slotted into place in the middle of the lane taking up a full 'unit' of traffic, you effectively pulled straight out of a give way in front of the merc. The bike lanes in your vid are useless so I'd have stuck in the middle all the way apart from when you get a full size bus lane. Too close at 25secs. The undertake at 2.00mins was a bit dodgy, the lane narrows again just after the roundabout putting you and the corsa in a unhealthy position for hardly any gain.
Merc woman is in the wrong for chucking stuff but you didnt help yourself. sorry.
DezB i critisised your driving from your description of it ages ago but i can't see anything especially wrong in your cycling.. mind you i can't see the thrown object or what the driver looks like either .
one of the joys of living in swansea....always a mate who can unofficially get you an address off of a number plate. got to love the look on their face when they get home and your already outside their house. a smile and and a wink as you ride off really shits them up 😀
Am I the only one getting an ad at the bottom of that vid "How do I talk to women?"
I have to agree with others that you should have taken the lane for most of that vid. You presumably knew the bus lane ended like that, in which case you'd have been better off joining the road earlier and taking the lane, which would have prevented the first attempted pass. Given you were keeping up with the traffic, and not apparently trying to go past the car in front, then you could have taken the lane up to the start of the bus lane, which would have prevented the second attempted pass. Why exactly were you riding so far left - it only encourages drivers to attempt to pass? Most worrying to me is how far left you were going past the traffic island at 0:33 - personally I'd be right in the middle of the lane going past there even if the road in front was totally clear so as to prevent attempted overtakes wiping me out as they pull left.
Not that any of that excuses the driving of the merc, but you could make it a lot safer for yourself by more assertive road positioning. I have to say that in this instance I agree with (the ghost of) TJ 😉
You under took the corsa so showing the vid to the cops will have them throw it out the window ;O)
[i]I have to agree with others that you should have taken the lane for most of that vid. You presumably knew [/i]
Yeah, you're another one who knows my commute better than I do 🙄
[i]under took the corsa[/i] in a cycle lane? That's illegal yeah?
Of course we dont know your commute better than you do- i am happy to go on record as never have been there if it helps 😉 - but what we have done is give you some advice, based on a video you posted up, as to how you could avoid this happening again.
You are of course free to ignore this advice and the reasons we give and/or pretend we are saying something we are not. i dont think anyone is deliberately trolling and it is still her fault and you should still report it.
Cant see anything wrong myself with Dez's positioning. Taking up the whole lane would have just aggravated the situation further.
Can I just say some of those cycle lanes are useless / dangerous.
aye they are useless/dangerous
If you are in the whole lane/ hogging they cannot pull along side you as they have to go on the wrong side of the road to achieve this and get hit by cars. They are forced to stay behind you which is far safer for you. he does this later in the video circa 1 minute
Junky - as I come out of the junction just before the top bus lane, it is quite fast and there's quite a lot of evaluation of the traffic - you cannot give me advice based on what you see in the video... sorry, it always bugs me when folk on here think they know better than the person who is actually in the situation and has been there 100s of time before. It's the TJ attitude.
anyway, yeah - I have to evaluate the situation behind, in front, further down the road (and occasionally, whether I've just managed to cut up a bus or cyclist using the cycle lane!) all in a few seconds. My road position accounts for the years of experience I've had on that road, all without serious incident - just one silly moo who thinks she owns the road.
Personally, I'd just let it slide and move on. Nobody died, and the police really have more on their plate.
Much less stress that way.
That's my feeling Neil - I get the impression that, even if the police speak to her, she's the sort that'll still think she was in the right and I should've let her overtake.
it always bugs me when folk on here think they know better than the person who is actually in the situation
I can see why, we all think we are experts and we all think we know best- it is STW after all
It was not meant to be arsey comment
it is STW after all
so true.
if you started a thread stating clearly that black is black, someone would come along and tell you that black is actually white, or that you're a racist.
[i]it is STW after all[/i]
Ah, I'm the same on the roads (car or bike) - I know exactly what to expect, but still get annoyed when it happens!
I need therapy! 😀
Most pathetic cycle lanes I've ever seen. The council should be embarrassed!
I think Neil has it. Isn't that a typical commute? You'll see her again if you do the same route every day. Think of something sexist, amusing and flattering to say if you get the chance.
Yep, typical commute. I had this today - a massive bin lorry doing about 15mph down a road with cars on either side and suicidal pedestrians playing run the gauntlet, then me on my bike, then a black Ford people carrier (owned by a known anti-cycling London taxi firm). He just didn't seem to get that there was no room to get infront of me so just persisted in half-wheeling and revving his engine. I just held my line, eyes fixed forward and put a hand out to gesture him to back off a bit. Worked for about 10 seconds.
There will always be idiots on the road - you just have to know how to avoid crashing into them.
> Personally, I'd just let it slide and move on
People with that level of aggression should be sternly warned that they risk not being allowed to drive cars until they get help, in my opinion.
I would say 'let it slide', but she threw something at you? I think that you should report that even if
I can't see it on the vid though, and she'd probably deny it.she's the sort that'll still think she was in the right and I should've let her overtake.
Me too 🙂I know exactly what to expect, but still get annoyed when it happens!
A couple of chavs threw an apple core at me as they drove past in their souped up, sh*t pile of a junk Peugeot yesterday on the way home.
Also shouting something, but I cant understand 'chav' language 😉
I quite often blowing them a kiss often invokes a self combustion from within the car quite nicely.