[Closed] Today is the first day of the rest of our lives

Brilliant.
Looking forward to another recession.
Just look at that twunt Farage.
Today is a very bad day.

To be sovereign once more.
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Intensely proud of this democratic exercise, and very glad I made the effort to travel home to vote.

The intense thunder storm we just had over head as they announced the result was timely I thought.

gaidong - Member
To be sovereign once more.

Don't trust the bastards in Westminster to do anything. They'll find a way to wriggle out of it.

Posting in the bike section.....it's downhill already 🙁

😉

Looking forward to all these swarms of sharp international trade experts coming out of the cupboard to work for our underfunded government. Oh, they have city jobs alresdy

@mikesmith, the Lords I'm more ambivalent about. The system worked for a long time but too buggered about with in recent decades. Maybe time for a big change. UK federation to accommodate Scotland's divergent opinion?

Pound falls, import costs rise, inflation rise, reactive interest rise rise, cost of living rise. Least the very small amount we export will be more attractive. Good times on the speculation market ahead.

I didn't know which way to vote prior to the referendum, and at the last minute made the decision to vote

This morning I am shocked by the decision, at least I can now have no regrets.

gaidong - Member
@mikesmith, the Lords I'm more ambivalent about.

At least it's nice and sunny here and hopefully the crash lasts a while and the property market takes enough of a hit that I can return to what remains of the UK at some point.

I find it hard that so many people voted against their own interests - let alone common interests.

let alone common interests.

That would be a lack of common sense

Uncertain times ahead. I did not think it would turn out this way ??

To be sovereign once more.

This is the shit that really boils my piss and shows fundamental lack of understanding. We are sovereign with in the EU, the EU has never taken away our sovereignty. People using word they di not even understand.

@TheBrick. I disagree. As did 52% of a 72% turn out.

@The Brick that's the famed democratic deficit!

@TheBrick. I disagree. As did 52% of a 72% turn out.

It still does not make you right, just uneducated or deluded.

It's the result, so now time to deal with it and move on. And please don't call me uneducated. It's not the case and it wouldn't help the next stages, much as it didn't help the remain campaign.

very true, we have all given up holding our breath for any knid of a leave policy....

I eagarly await the looks of abject dissapointment and anger when the slogans fail to deliver anything close to what was expected.

As a scottish mate said about the one up there, we don't care if we are ****ed we just want to know we ****ed ourselves.

Had the Remain campaign explained the facts without spin they may have won but they didn't. It's as much a protest vote against the absence of honesty/trust as it is an EU one.
I'm not clear on how anyone can argue a vote either way is obviously correct as no one knows what the future holds on such a unique scenario.

The contrary view, which the majoriity hold is that now we will prosper, eventually.

One immediate benefit is that exports will be cheaper, imports more expensive, that will be good for the Country, and will help pay back some of our national debt.

And the big loser of the night, the Politicians, who just cannot understand that 'normal' people, outside of the South East, do not agree with their ideas.
Not that it'll change anything, the rich will stay rich, and very little will trickle down.

I must admit I was a no in the Scottish independence ref.

I think now the result would be different assuming that scotland would stay in the EU

Let the English and welsh stew in their own juices with their drawbridge up

Taking a new job paid in dollars may not have been totally daft now 🙂

I was a staunch no in the indyref

I'd vote yes right now and for the foreseeable. Going on our own cannot be worse than this disaster

The Scots had their vote to stay in the UK, that means being part of our democracy and accepting the vote. I hope everybody just get on with it and quits bitching. It was the highest turn out in decades (still poor) the people have spoken.

Used to be proud to be British, now ashamed to be English 👿

The people have spoken but given how hopeless and full of bitching and bullshit both campaign were, are we confident that the people have spoken wisely?

Pretty shocked at the result but a large part of the blame needs to be laid at the feet of the EU leaders and Cameron. I bet they didn't even really negotiate on immigration, just figured that Remain was a done deal so why bother. Leave was pretty much a single issue campaign and they failed when they had a chance to address that issue.
Mind you as much as I want Cameron to resign now I don't want Gove or Boris in his place.
Democracy is fine until all the options are shit :p

gaidong - Member
@mikesmith, the Lords I'm more ambivalent about. The system worked for a long time but too buggered about with in recent decades. Maybe time for a big change. UK federation to accommodate Scotland's divergent opinion?

You are joking right? The Scots now have a straight choice between being part of the UK, or being part of Europe. That's an absolute no-brainer for them, particularly as the EU will give them a good deal to stay in/rejoin.

This isn't about national cream tea day then?

Britain has lost its triple a credit rating as of 6am. Off to a good start then.

Edit. Misread, it's expected to hasn't yet.

I'm assuming that the STW demographic is from the South East or Scotland!?

The intense thunder storm we just had over head as they announced the result was timely I thought.

Aye, it's almost like someone had just angered the Gods....

I feel it's about time to launch an old school blood sacrifice cult 😈

Had the Remain campaign explained the facts without spin they may have won but they didn't.

I'm assuming that the STW demographic is from the South East or Scotland!?

I bet they didn't even really negotiate on immigration, just figured that Remain was a done deal so why bother.

Disagree, he wasn't negotiating from a strong position. Will be interesting to see how this pans out.

pondo - Member
Now that's ironing.

No it's not. The same can't be said of the Leave campaign because they did win. Both were guilty of spin but it's hurt Remain more.

I feel genuinely sick from this.

Democracy is fine until all the options are shit

never a truer word spoken, just look which two buffoons the yanks have to choose from 🙄

I feel genuinely sick from this

same here

Mechanical dope, You and both, sleepless night here, good chance I'll be out of work by Christmas (work directly linked to EU and current project ends in Autumn) 😥

At least I should have a good cx season with all that time to train

One immediate benefit is that exports will be cheaper, imports more expensive, that will be good for the Country, and will help pay back some of our national debt.

Exports would be cheaper were it not for tariffs, you mean...

The backtracking by the leave party already started.

"It was a mistake to claim 350m more could be spent on NHS"

Says farage on live tv

It's as much a protest vote against the absence of honesty/trust as it is an EU one.

So half the country have voted to **** everything up as a bit of a protest vote?

They're even more retarded than I thought.

Guess we now await to hear when the scottish referendum is ?

The cost of imports is now up by 6% !... The pound has just lost 6% since opening. Still this was what the people wanted.!! Every pension scheme in the Uk will get a battering over next few weeks.. but this is actually a really good thing 😀

and more than half the morons in the UK chose that.

Actually - just over a third of the electorate chose this new direction for the whole country.

I wonder what we remove WRT EU regs and rules?

Will bananas now be any shape they want? what about the passports and all those quick EU passports check machines at all the UK airports??

so much has been put in place, some/most of it good, it would be a shame to see all the good things go now. 🙁

Baldrick, if you ever where to come up with a cunning plan, about now would be a great time for it..

The removal of EU regulations was discussed by leave during the campaign, essentially most standards and red tape are fixed by international trade agreements to ensure people get what they expect.

Only thing they can really adjust is employment rights and benefits.

And I guess its time to start thinking about re-kindling my desire to move home to South Africa..

I'm not angry, just very, very, very disappointed.

Only thing to do now is look forward and try to find ways to make the best of the "challenges and opportunities". Recriminations and blank g are a waste of effort.

Look forward to seeing all those in Lincolnshire who voted to leave rushing to take their fruit picking jobs back from those nasty immigrants.

Well that's the result. Now they just need to come up with a plan as to how the hell they do what they promised. Or like most politicians they'll do enough of it to serve their own interests and leave the disillusioned disaffected people who voted for this to fend for themselves.

So in summary a bunch of lying toe rags who don't understand what soverienty means have convinced about a third of the uk electorate to ruin Britain for everyone. Well done, have a slow hand clap from me.

Only thing they can really adjust is employment rights and benefits

with the Tories in that means any benefits will be swiftly removed 🙄

Because going on strike to protect your pension/job/existing contract/working conditions/children's education causes disruption don't you know, and that is wholly unacceptable. 👿

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Really? Only people accountable are the electorate. Reap what you sow.

And with relatives in South Africa, no ****ing way would I go there!

Look forward to seeing all those in Lincolnshire who voted to leave rushing to take their fruit picking jobs back from those nasty immigrants.

This is where there is confusion/little direction. Nobody has said they will be kicking anyone out who is already here and if they do it will probably be years away before some criteria is put in place, administered etc,.

The reality is the same number of immigrants will remain here, we will have less money to due recession and the "£350MM" spent on EU each week will seem irrelevant.

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"More likely from the educated / degree-holding part of the electorate who apparently have voted for remain on the whole."

I don't see how this is a useful attitude. Am I supposed to post degree certs. on here to have the right to an opinion?

coconut - Member
I would love to see Spain close its borders to the fat british chavs that drink all day on the Costas, France to start shooting booze cruize runs vans and Italy to ban Pizza & wine exports....

I know quite a number of retired ex-pats in Spain. To a man they voted Leave.

I do not understand their reasoning. Now their pensions have plummeted, and how long will they be tolerated in Spain?

So Dave is going, Corbin is likely to be forced out. General election before Christmas?

In Spain they'll be tolerated as long as they can afford the taxes and health care insurance.

So Dave is going, Corbin is likely to be forced out. General election before Christmas?

More likely blood bath tory leadership election (thank god I only have to live with that and not choose between the options they'll put forward) causing more market woes. Gove or Boris to succeed Cameron over summer and run the country to its knees till 2020.

Best (I) can hope for is we're slow in enacting article 50, the rest of the EU is given to a random act of kindness rather than making an example of us and, come 20 we have an election fought between remain and leave mps rather than labour /conservative and sing the error of our ways we elect a cross party remain coalition which manages to get us back in then stagnate government for five years.

It won't happen though.

I have zero expectation that the rest of the EU will make this easy on us and fully expect no stay of execution on the two year timetable for article 50.

I feel genuinely sick from this.

I'm really surprised by all this. This is what happens when you let the whole country decide on something this important. I don't think there was enough focus on what's good about the EU. Working in an education establishment everyone with an ounce of intelligence and reasoning was 'in', anyone that I spoke to who was out just seemed to focus on, immigrants or 'we won the war' and wouldn't listen to anything else.

This can't be good for our economy short or long term, I hope I'm wrong. But, I'd just like to ask all those who voted 'out' what's so different for them today? .. Er, weaker pound, political instability, possible price rises, wage freezes, economic downturn, deeper recession, Boris for Prime Minister ... Thankyou!

Balance of trade was -£3294m in April. With firms relocating to Europe we'll have even less to export. A cheap pound won't lead to an export-led boom it will lead to recession, inflation and increased austerity. On top of that, pensions and savings will be screwed. Money will be made, however, it's not likely to be by us.
At least we can console ourselves with a bent banana.

One of the lads I work with just explained his vote to leave as "I can't vote in favour of something which I know nothing about" my brain hurts, which along side the sick feeling in my stomach is going to make me very unproductive today.

The Scots now have a straight choice between being part of the UK, or being part of Europe. That's an absolute no-brainer for them, particularly as the EU will give them a good deal to stay in/rejoin.

What a load of crap. Scotland would have to apply to join and our economic position places us in a very weak position of negotiation. I can't see that application being accepted but, if it is, there is nothing to suggest it will be on favourable terms.

so now time to deal with it

How are YOU going to deal with it?

How are YOU going to try and shore up the nose-diving economy?

How are YOU going to help the people whose jobs will be lost?

Deal with it my arse. Just hope you don't have to.

Leave won. They made some massive promises to get that win (or led through their arse depending).

I only hope to a God I don't believe in that they can deliver what they promised.

Unfortunately I think my hope will be in vain. I'll be delighted to be proved wrong.

To me it's a victory for bigotry, Daily Fail readers and the old 😐

Leave won by deliberately lying and have admitted it only HOURS after the result.

Can we somehow invalidate the result because it was based on false premises? Legal challenge?

All this "hope house prices crash so I can come back here and buy a house in the fall out" pi££es me off.

I had to save and do the right thing to buy a house, how does that help me and anyone else who's bought a house recently if property prices crash and we're all in negative equity? You think it's the right thing to pick through the spoils of those who've had their houses repossessed and get a cheap deal on something the previous owners got chucked out of!

Sadly, I think that will not happen. The only thing that will show up from this is a failure in the new Conservative leader as he takes the fall for the messing up the negotiations and the subsequent return to 70s politics as Labour sweep in at the next general election.

War in Europe within a decade. The first [economic] shots are already being fired.

Leave won.

They made some massive promises to get that win (or led through their arse depending).

I only hope to a God I don't believe in that they can deliver what they promised.

Unfortunately I think my hope will be in vain. I'll be delighted to be proved wrong.

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On the bright side....

Donald Trump is in Scotland today.
We could ask him for advice about building a wall.......

I think there's a bit too much doom and gloom here. Yes it was the wrong decision but reading some comments here you'd think we're about to go to war with Europe. We're (for now at least...) the 5th biggest economy in the world, we're not going to suddenly turn into Greece. Yes there's going to be a short-term financial hit that we could do without but even now the FTSE is starting to recover from the huge drop this morning.
I actually think the mid-long term impact will be pretty small, both for the UK economy and for our standing in the world (we aren't leaving the UN and are still a member of the security council etc.).
The main risk is how crap our politicians are at negotiating. Added to that the speculation that remaining EU countries won't want us to leave without a bit of pain to discourage other referendums mean we could in the mid-term end up with some poor deals but that will get corrected in time.

Trump on tv...

He says "it's a great thing, they took back their country" what a di&k.

What a

Young guy on tv who voted leave said he did so because it means we can open up trade with the rest of the world and he can now get a pay rise if we leave the eu....! What the fu£is that about......?

Seems anyone interviewed who voted leave is surprised that they won and doesn't know what to do/ say/ will happen now.... Suggests they haven't given it much thought perhaps....?

We're (for now at least...) the 5th biggest economy in the world,

Still time to edit.

Britain has lost its triple a credit rating as of 6am. Off to a good start then.

Edit. Misread, it's expected to hasn't yet.

burko73 - Member
All this "hope house prices crash so I can come back here and buy a house in the fall out" pi££es me off.

I had to save and do the right thing to buy a house, how does that help me and anyone else who's bought a house recently if property prices crash and we're all in negative equity? You think it's the right thing to pick through the spoils of those who've had their houses repossessed and get a cheap deal on something the previous owners got chucked out of!