[Closed] To veggie is to suffer

oh the horror.........

well they are suffering more than the vegans ...

those diabetics are just milking it for sympathy, [s]sweet[/s] tea [s] and biscuits[/s]

My daughter is both vegetarian and Type 1 Diabetic. I wouldn’t say that either of them causes her to suffer.

The only person suffering in the posted example is the local authority who are suffering from having idiots in whichever department generated that form.

FFS!

Idiots 🙄

Honestly Stoner, it tends to be the people around vegetarians who suffer.

Nothing puts me off my meal more than seeing some mopey, ropey, pale looking veggie pretending to enjoy their hummus and cucumber while I tuck in to a steak.

makecoldplayhistory - Member
Honestly Stoner, it tends to be the people around vegetarians who suffer.

Nothing puts me off my meal more than seeing some mopey, ropey, pale looking veggie pretending to enjoy their hummus and cucumber while I tuck in to a steak.

Interesting, nothing makes me happier than watching someone tuck into a plate of fat knowing they'll have higher cholesterol than I ever will. And probably die far sooner.
Usually while I'm eating a vegan dhal with falafal and a nice beer while showing off my tan lines.

I was once in a rural pub restaurant type place, not a single thing on the menu that wasn't meaty. I asked the landlady about it, she looked puzzled so I added, "I'm vegetarian." She looked at me sadly and went "oh, I [i]am[/i] sorry...!"

My Daughter is a Coeliac - she suffers when the school feed her wheat/let her handle play doh/etc.

I'm sure vegetarian and vegan kids will be suffering when they get their 'option' stuck in front of them.

mopey, ropey, pale looking veggie

Shouldn't the forum auto-montage a selection of midlandtrailquestsgraham's (or whatever the hell he's called) lairy-trousered [s]beefcake[/s] beancake photos whenever this kind of thing happens?

Interesting, nothing makes me happier than watching someone tuck into a plate of fat knowing they'll have higher cholesterol than I ever will. And probably die far sooner.
Usually while I'm eating a vegan dhal with falafal and a nice beer while showing off my tan lines.

That's the big difference. The dude eating the steak is probably thinking "wow this steak is good, and the cool beer tops it off a treat"

You're sitting there feeling smug, watching another man eat and getting kicks out of his heightened cholesterol. That is the thing which makes you most happy. Have a look at yourself.

woah, everybody, step away from the Tofu/Steak Tartare.

Fishing expedition over. Trolling post is obvious troll....I shall report myself to Cougar 😉

Interesting, nothing makes me happier than watching someone tuck into a plate of fat knowing they'll have higher cholesterol than I ever will. And probably die far sooner.

And the link between dietary fat and cholesterol is?

None as I keep fooling myself......hmm cheese

Nothing puts me off my meal more than seeing some mopey, ropey, pale looking veggie pretending to enjoy their hummus and cucumber while I tuck in to a steak.

I'm a veggie and fat as a barrel. Chips are generally vegetarian you know.

That's the assumption of meat eaters at work right there. That we are somehow birch twigging ourselves with our diet. Fact is I'd rather have the dhal and falafel any day which makes it pretty easy to the point I don't even think about it. No, not even bacon cooking. Really.

Nothing puts me off my meal more than seeing some mopey, ropey, pale looking veggie pretending to enjoy their hummus and cucumber while I tuck in to a steak.

Interesting, nothing makes me happier than watching someone tuck into a plate of fat knowing they'll have higher cholesterol than I ever will. And probably die far sooner.

Here's the plan - you two get a room while the rest of us enjoy whatever the fuuu we like to eat! You can stereotype yourselves to death over a shared menu of pan-fried prejudice, coddled confirmation bias and sizzlng sociopathy served on a slate 😉

I was veggie for over a year made me poorly - not able to poo 🙁
Apparently we need fat in our diet its too much sugar that's the issue.

Here's the plan - you two get a room while the rest of us enjoy whatever the fuuu we like to eat! You can stereotype yourselves to death over a shared menu of pan-fried prejudice, coddled confirmation bias and sizzlng sociopathy served on a slate

😀

And the link between dietary fat and cholesterol is?

^ this

Even if you choose the fattiest cut of steak then not much more than 10% is fat, and most people don't eat the big edge of fat which probably makes up the majority of that. So actually by tucking into a nice juicy steak you're probably not eating that much fat. You're probably adding more with the mouthwateringly buttery Béarnaise sauce accompanying it. I've met my fair share of fat veggies so don't think for a second that a veggie diet automatically equals a healthy diet.

But each to their own. I know a fair few people afflicted with vegetarianism, but I never hold that against them!

[i]And the link between dietary fat and cholesterol is? [/i]

... somewhere in Glasgow?

Eat meat or don't. Make a choice, shut the **** up about it

Eat meat [s]or don't. Make a choice, shut the **** up about it[/s]

ftfy

I was veggie for over a year made me poorly - not able to poo

Then you were a shit cook.

I'm a veggie and fat as a barrel. Chips are generally vegetarian you know.

That's the assumption of meat eaters at work right there. That we are somehow birch twigging ourselves with our diet. Fact is I'd rather have the dhal and falafel any day which makes it pretty easy to the point I don't even think about it. No, not even bacon cooking. Really.

I was in a restaurant in Hungary last month and mrs iolo, being vegetarian, ordered some ravioli type pasta dish - marked as veggie on the menu in Hungarian, German and English. She cut into it and there were pieces of meat inside. When the manager was told we were informed the chef had added pork as he thought it might add some flavour.

Harry_the_Spider - Member

My daughter is both vegetarian and Type 1 Diabetic. I wouldn’t say that either of them causes her to suffer.

I'm T1, it's totally correct to say we suffer from it- it doesn't have to make you miserable or anything, it just means experiencing something negative. Which it bloody is.

See also: Coeliac.

She cut into it and there were pieces of meat inside. When the manager was told we were informed the chef had added pork as he thought it might add some flavour.

freeagent - Member
My Daughter is a Coeliac - she suffers when the school feed her wheat/let her handle play doh/etc.

That's quite extreme cieliacness (word?) isn't it? The handling of playdough, I mean.

As far as the school letting her eat wheat goes, I'd be in there tearing strips off whoever allows it to happen.

At my school, there's a list of children and dietary requirements. These are coded red, yellow, green in order of severity. For example, the Hindu boy who has to be told almost daily to put the beef back (he's 12) is a green.

Red level, have food on their own plate named and clingfilmed for them.

Love a good steak (venison in the fridge for tonight, never had that outside a restaurant) but equally I also look forward to eating out at a decent veggie place.

Generally we are very shortsighted when we imagine what the plate will look/taste like without meat/fish as the centrepiece. How many 'steak eaters' on here ever give any serious consideration to the veggie section in the menu?

I'm T1, it's totally correct to say we suffer from it- it doesn't have to make you miserable or anything, it just means experiencing something negative. Which it bloody is.

Fair enough. My point was that "suffer" isn't the right wording on the form. She "is" T1, she "is" vegetarian. Other kids don't eat pork. They don't "suffer" from not eating pork.

One thing that really bugged when she was diagnosed was the "awww, poor little you" mentality that some people adopted. She has it, deal with it, manage the condition, but don't bracket her as a "sufferer" along with the veggies, Hindus and the wheat intolerant.

Our school are excellent and she eats her school dinners along with all of the other 5 year olds. The staff know the carb values of everything on the menu and they give the insulin accordingly. No big deal, no drama, no suffering.

I'm a vegan these days and my farts and poos haven't changed at all!

As for 'eat what you want' - sure, but it would be awesome if people educated themselves on the miserable lives they are causing to others by their lifestyle choice. By all means carry on, but gloating about it is a bit sad IMHO.

Here's the plan - you two get a room while the rest of us enjoy whatever the fuuu we like to eat! You can stereotype yourselves to death over a shared menu of pan-fried prejudice, coddled confirmation bias and sizzlng sociopathy served on a slate

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I was veggie for over a year made me poorly - not able to poo
Apparently we need fat in our diet its too much sugar that's the issue.

If your ever unfortunate enough for me to stay at your house. You will soon realise that your failure to crap is not down to lack of meat in diet.

Heaven ****ing help you if we have a curry!!!!! Good god, that even disgusts myself.

You are aware that there are other sources of fat aside from Peppa and co?

That's the assumption of meat eaters at work right there. That we are somehow birch twigging ourselves with our diet. Fact is I'd rather have the dhal and falafel any day which makes it pretty easy to the point I don't even think about it. No, not even bacon cooking. Really.

+1.

There are, of course, "denial" veggies. The ones who don't eat meat apart from fish and chicken and whatever other exclusion clauses they come up with, and go to slavering pieces at the first whiff of a bacon butty. They're probably the ones who pop up on Internet forums a couple of years later going "oh, I tried being veggie for a while and it made me ill" and concluding that because they suddenly cut out most of their diet on a whim one day and lived off lettuce for six months, all vegetarians must pasty, miserable and malnourished. These are the ones that all the confirmed omnivores hold up as a straw man to assert their superiority. And frankly, I don't blame them.

There are also others who don't do this, who manage to not just survive but thrive on a vegetarian diet. And there are plenty of others in between, it's more of a spectrum than a black-or-white state.

Personally I find the smell of bacon revolting, I'm a far cry away from "punishing myself" by not eating the stuff. Someone going "ah, but you'd love a bacon butty really, wouldn't you" is as nonsensical to me as it would if everyone else routinely ate turds and were trying to tempt me with a dog egg sandwich.

Generally we are very shortsighted when we imagine what the plate will look/taste like without meat/fish as the centrepiece. How many 'steak eaters' on here ever give any serious consideration to the veggie section in the menu?

Yeah, I've never really understood that. I get that some - most? - people like meat, but don't really understand why it has to be a mandatory component every time they eat. A friend of mine, let's call him Dave (cos that's his name), will sometimes order the veggie "option" on a menu. He's not vegetarian, just orders what he fancies at the time, and the number of "oh, I didn't know you were veggie?" - "I'm not" - "but, then, why...?" conversations he's had over the years is quite staggering.

Harry_the_Spider - Member

Fair enough. My point was that "suffer" isn't the right wording on the form. She "is" T1, she "is" vegetarian. Other kids don't eat pork. They don't "suffer" from not eating pork.

The vege thing is definitely wrong, I guess that's the point of the thread... but the actual medical ailments part is correct. I know some people like to seek out neutral terms and pretend like it's not a negative thing but it's pretty silly, you can't make a chronic disease better by agonising over the wording, better to be honest that it sucks and get on with it. IMO! 😉

A friend of mine, let's call him Dave (cos that's his name), will sometimes order the veggie "option"

Hmmmmm, [s]veggie-dish/meat-eating sockpuppet[/s] 'Dave' eh? Riiiight 😉

The vege thing is definitely wrong, I guess that's the point of the thread... but the actual medical ailments part is correct.

It's basically just a badly worded letter. Maybe it initially contained ailments, then someone came along later and added other dietary requirements into the list without thinking / reading correctly? It's arguably mildly offensive but I'd be surprised if it was intentionally offensive. I'd imagine that a quick email to its source would get it changed in future copies.

I'm coming to the conclusion that the Italian way is a winner; carbs (a pasta or risotto that is invariably vegetable only) and meat, served as separate courses. If you want to you can eat either or only one. No one bats an eyelid if one is missed

Point is it does not suit everyone - I am a shit cook correct Harry the perfect, that's why the wife does the cooking. She too was veggie we both ate the same meals I was ill she was fine.

well, it wasn't the veggie food. The idea that a veggie diet means you don't have a shit is a bit daft when you think about it.

Daft it is, you need the meat fats or supplements or lots of chips by the sounds of it.

This forum needs a QI klaxon.

Speaking from experience cougar? Wrong answer for some not all.

I don't eat either of those things, and I manage perfectly well 😆

Speaking from experience cougar?

I've been vegetarian for... I think 24 years now. So, yes, I'd like to think so.

If your conclusion is "meat or chips" (massive proteins or massive carbs) "by the sounds of it" then, ah, well.

Your wife "was" a veggie. How long for?

Yep - it suits some

I've only got 14 years of vegetarian cooking under my belt. Can't say that I've missed many "appointments" either.

For me I would need 2 stomachs to manage without meat.
Wife was veggie for 2 years - pregnancy forced her to the dark side, as this thread appears to be labelling it.

as this thread appears to be labelling it.

Where?

I've only got 14 years of vegetarian cooking under my belt. Can't say that I've missed many "appointments" either.

I shit like a Lion

This forum needs a QI klaxon.

Like hell does it, it'd be worn out within the hour.

[i]Wife was veggie for 2 years - pregnancy forced her to the dark side[/i]

being pregnant made her like Darth Vader 😯

"Search your feelings, I am your fath"....Oh no wait, that's not going to work.

20 years a veggie, most of that vegan. Don't really like vegetables. Pulses and seeds even less. Leaves and other salad produce are ok if they're covered in olive oil. Chips are good, as are veggie sausages, burgers, and anything made with veggie mince. The Chinese supermarkets in Manchester do a remarkable range of meat imitation products, including lobster, prawns, chicken, etc. I once made a doner kebab with fake chicken from the chinese supermarket. I swear it was exactly like I remembered. So much so that I've not done it again as it was too realistic.

Why would anyone eat chickpeas? That's a serious question. (in their natural form that is, not falafel, which I like as it looks like meat)

Oh my kids are vegan too. They don't like vegetables either 🙂

I would need 2 stomachs to manage without meat.
Wife was veggie for 2 years - pregnancy forced her to the dark side

With respect, that's not an inherently vegetarian issue, it's a poor diet issue.

Did you substitute the removal of meat with other foods or did you just stop eating things? Were you both getting plenty of fibre? Protein? Good sources of all your vitamins and minerals?

It was a didn't suit me issue. Meat back in the diet and all's well.
it was never an animal welfare issue for me I wanted to do it as I believed I would be more healthy.

Not really answering the question, TBH.

Wife was fine, so suggest diet was fine TBH

[i]Good sources of all your vitamins and minerals?[/i]

Well, this is very nutritious, all the food groups are represented. Did your mom Marry Mr Rodgers?

(points awarded for naming the film...) 😀

Wife was fine, so suggest diet was fine TBH

If that were true, she wouldn't have been "forced to the dark side" when she were pregnant.

Breakfast Club nickc!

Love that film.