[Closed] To much Roadie Talk.

Get over yourself, it's all cycling isn't it? Some of us do road, CX and MTB. Should we use different forums for all of them?

Your troll is far too obvious..

Get over yourself

This... 🙄

And one.

to much roadie talk

Is that a toast?

It's "too" much.

Not

"To" much.

.. To much roadie talk !

Sounds like a toast at an evening for talking about road riding.

(Edit- slow typering 😉 )

No, I agree - you shaven, skinny lycra nancies can all get stuffed. It's bad enough that we talk about bikes on here at all, but [i]road[/i] ?!

They never even bloody say hello, you know

Is that a toast?

I like road because it makes me fast on my mountain bike.

They never even bloody say hello, you know

I have a regular coffee stop that is frequented by mountain bikers. I often get ignored when I call in on my road bike. 🙁

The Lycra probably makes them feel uneasy. 8)

[i]Get over yourself, it's all cycling isn't it? Some of us do road, CX and MTB. Should we use different forums for all of them?
Your troll is far too obvious..
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Totally fair point. It's not all cycling at all ..... It's a totally different discipline involving shaving ones legs!

Banish yourself to a roadie site!

No Irish, Dogs or Roadies please...

Mangatank, dogs and roadies are allowed.

😉

I dont mind the roadie talk tbh it when they are on the roads two abreast slowing me down with their perfectly leag cycling that I get cross

Road CC is good for reviews ect... but their forum is dead. Probably out riding bikes instead of talking about them. 😉

Roadie talk -"Been out much?"
"Nah.Not much".
Actually means 600 miles in a month.

Mtb talk -"Been out much?"
"Yeah.Done wales and scotland and the lakes and the alps"
Actually means 600 miles in a year.

Get over yourself, it's all cycling isn't it? Some of us do road, CX and MTB. Should we use different forums for all of them?
Your troll is far too obvious..

Troll this is not!

I felt my point was very fair and justified, noticed a significant increase in road bike subjects on a mountain bike forum!

If like myself you ride both, great but use the appropriate forum!

Although both can complement each other you wouldn't ride your road bike off road and visa versa however I am at a loss with cyclocross 😕

It's "too" much.
Not
"To" much.

Yeah, you can get over yourself!

Seriously people, I posted it with a fair point, opinion, yes but a fair point non the less and I get shot down?!
By the grammar nazi's?!

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neilsonwheels - Member
I often get ignored when I call in on my road bike.
The bulges in my Lycra probably makes them feel uneasy.

FTFY.

Totally fair point. It's not all cycling at all ..... It's a totally different discipline involving shaving ones legs!

Banish yourself to a roadie site!

+1 the bunch of dirty infidels

Seriously people, I posted it with a fair point opinion, yes but a fair point non the less and I get shot down?! With the grammar nazi's?!

P.s I ain't 'people'

this in-fighting feels a bit like the old days, very disappointing.

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I miss the old days
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Ultimately, the sport is old enough now for many of us to have moved from pure MTB to a mixture of Road and trail. It's just how the forum is maturing. Like it or lump it I'd say.

Ultimately, the sport is old enough now for many of us to have moved from pure MTB to a mixture of Road and trail. It's just how the forum is maturing. Like it or lump it I'd say.

It would appear that way!

No issue with roadie talk. Most riders have more than one bike and also enjoy riding the tarmac.

By the grammar nazi's?!

it's winter, you'd have to be mental to do much mtbing at this time of year, road bikes are a great alternative.

hopefully the sun will come back soon, or at least some of the puddles will get drained by thirsty trees, and it'll be 'flats vs spds' threads all over the forum once again.

until november...

Road CC is good for reviews ect... but their forum is dead.

The banter on Road CC is all in the comments of the news and reviews rather than on the forum, its more of a conversation with the site authors.

In a world where n+1 is the number of bikes you should have in the garage then it is inevitable that eventually one of those may well be a road bike ..... that and you'll end up needing a bigger garage.

A toast you say? Chin chin 🙂

you'd have to be mental to do much mtbing at this time of year

I honestly don't get that, Road biking is great and has its benefits but MTBing is why I do it... Winter or Summer.

Roadie talk -"Been out much?"
"Nah.Not much".
Actually means 600 miles in a month.

You're right that's not much. I used to clock up 1000+ a month training for XC and that was just WEs and a few evenings.

By the grammar nazi's what? We want to know!

😀 😉 😀

By the grammar nazi's?!

Grammar is important. It's the difference between helping your uncle Jack off a horse, or helping your uncle jack off a horse...the difference between knowing your shit and knowing you're shit. Ya dig?

Mr. Tacopowell. This is NOT a place for expressing your opinions! Jeez whatever next?
(BTW, it's the winter, people are on their boring road bikes more, wait a few months and it'll all go away)

Grammar is important. It's the difference between helping your uncle Jack off a horse, or helping your uncle jack off a horse...the difference between knowing your shit and knowing you're shit. Ya dig?

Oh I get it, I'm just not very good at it, it doesn't however give people the right to be an arse when my grammar's poor
Does it?! Maybe I'm missing something?

Anyway, I'm off to/too (???) road.cc to talk mountain bikes!

Deary dear 🙄

I've lurked here a fair while now and can honestly say that there used to be some informative posts, interesting videos posted and posts that made me roflol from really witty folk but now I think it can be summed up with one of these..

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SmugTosserWorld

One will be along in a minute to alter my opinion. Then another will type something hilarious like bye then. Which will reinforce the Ned-bond.

How to comfort an upset grammar pedant....

There, their, they're

Go and read Cyclist magazine, it's a road version of Singletrack; lots of tasty photos and great articles, very little advertising and some interesting tech stuff. I'm so impressed I'm taking out a subscription. Now if Singletrack was to begin including the occasional classy road riding feature with great photos and write-ups I think it would revive the magazine dramatically by adding a new strand of interest.

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It's seasonal innit, though a bit arse about face, should be road summer and mtb in the winter.

I was just thinking I've not seen a Cervello in months.

I felt my point was very fair and justified, noticed a significant increase in road bike subjects on a mountain bike forum!

A quick swag of your last 18 posts shows me that 10 of them have nothing to do with mountain biking.

I'd recommend 'the real world' if you are fretting about non-cycling things. Or post about mountain bikes yourself?

I'm no grammar pedant - when you make as many typos as I do it would make me a tremendous hypocrite.

That title does make me smile though - one tiny error and the entire sentiment is reversed. Thanks for the amusement! I think we should have more thread titles in the form of a toast- "To dusty trails and may all you punctures happen just yards from the car park."

I honestly don't get that, Road biking is great and has its benefits but MTBing is why I do it... Winter or Summer.

I don't know about you but I just can't stand going out for a quick blast and spending long cleaning bikes and clothes than I did riding. I could count the times I've ridden a mtb since October on one hand -only if it's frozen solid or snow covered....

not sure how much is "road" and how much is "roadie" - by roadie then that invokes a license carrying club member rather than riding for training/pleasure or commuting by road - not that it matters think point is if bike related question then will probably getting some good pointers and sometimes brilliantly useful answers (same applies OT threads)

i always think if you don't like the thread don't read it

though being a traditionalist i prefer the [darkside]warning[/darkside]

BTW, it's the winter, people are on their boring road bikes more, wait a few months and it'll [s]all go away[/s] increase tenfold when the Tour starts.

FTFY. 😉

Crazy-legs is talking nonsense of course - as there used to be much less road stuff on here - there is no way of knowing that 😉

Sorry, in the above smugness I forgot to actually add an opinion.

I come from a road and triathlon background. Reading the "roadie" topics every now and then I'd say most of them aren't very "roadie" at all. It's quite clear from what is typed that a lot of contributors are not dyed in the wool road cyclists who have been at it for years but relatively new converts, often from a mountain biking heritage. It's people talking about riding bikes on the road - which imo is a very different thing. It also says a little about the poor off road conditions we have had a lot of in the last year or two and (most, clearly not the op) mountain bikers growing preparedness to try other formats of the same sport. Diversification if you will. I see this as a good thing.

Convert- Absolutely spot-on analysis. Agree with all of that.

[i]I felt my point was very fair and justified, noticed a significant increase in road bike subjects on a mountain bike forum!
If like myself you ride both, great but use the appropriate forum![/i]

Or just don't read a post you're not interested in. Seriously why do posts about road bikes annoy you enough to start a topic about it?

"Seriously why do posts about road bikes annoy you enough to start a topic about it?"

This

But general I think most have been better recently. For instance, we had a nice little chat about football yday without one single "wendyball" comment.

If you don't like it... don't view it.

OP, do you watch EastEnders? To then moan about it at the end ??

Just turn over man, who made you the thread police ??

I'm confused - I cycle to work and back on a road bike 40 miles, five days a week. Outside of winter, I "mountain bike" at the weekends.

Am I a roadie or a mountie? 🙁

[i]Am I a roadie or a mountie?[/i]

you're a cyclist.

I think the OP was complainign abotu people talkign about it on here, not which category they'd put themselves in.

I take a cross bike on rides that involve both road and singletrack. Where do I post?

If you don't like it... don't view it.

OP, do you watch EastEnders? To then moan about it at the end ??

Tut. Double standards.

It's a well established tradition on STW to watch stuff we don't like specifically so that we can say how crap it was. The weekly "Top Gear" threads for example.

Moaning about stuff that we could easily just avoid/ignore is an integral part of being British.

😀

Nobody's picked him for this one yet:

Although both can complement each other you wouldn't ride your road bike off road and [s]visa[/s] [u]vice[/u] versa however I am at a loss with cyclocross

Can I have £5 as well...?

Oh yeah, sorry, need to add an opinion too:

It's all bikes innit...! Like most I'm an MTBer originally, diversified in to road and cross for the times that I've not been able to ride MTB. Occasional threads on here do seem to be more "MTBers who coincidentally ride road bikes" and, therefore, as far as I'm concerned are fine - variety is the spice of life, etc...

[i]Go and read Cyclist magazine, it's a road version of Singletrack[/i]

Cool. They should start a forum yeah?!

[edit][i]if Singletrack was to begin including the occasional classy road riding feature with great photos and write-ups..[/i]
I would instantly cancel my subscription.

[i]I would instantly cancel my subscription. [/i]

You're exagerating.

It would take longer than that, a couple of minutes at least.

Yes, of course. I'd be so furious my operation of the mouse would be compromised.

"exagerating"? 😯

Okay, flameproof suit on, I'm going to swim against the tide and agree with the OP's sentiment. The flavour of the forum does, to me, seem increasingly to be roadie, if cycling related at all. A lot of the time I don't think people even notice.

For example, there was a thread I posted on the other day that was "what's the fastest you've travelled on a mountain bike?" and LOADS of the posts were people talking about how fast they'd gone on their road bikes. No one (including me, couldn't be bothered) even queried this, it's just normal.

Not that long ago there was a thread where people were talking about their mountain biking and lots, I mean LOTS of people were saying that they hadn't ridden mountain bikes for years, mainly rode road, etc. and were still on here for reasons that had nowt at all to do with mountain biking.

People occasionally take the pee out of MBR on here and the fact is that their forum has about a dozen active members and threads move at a glacial pace BUT if I have a question about mountain biking, I'm more likely to post it on there than here. The few people who post on there are all active mountain bikers who, yes, take the pee and banter with other, but also talk about mountain biking for the most part.

To be honest, if you blanked the top of the screen and asked someone to look through the forum posts, I'm not sure they'd come to conclusion that this was a "mountain biking" forum and more that it's a middle class car owners forum, a general cycling forum, or just a middle-class lifestyle forum (main subjects: Cars, stuff on the telly, wood burners, coffee machines, consumer affairs and the sale of goods act, and a bit of cycling).

Yes, I know, no one forces me to read or contribute at gunpoint, can choose to go elsewhere etc. but I have an opinion, as does the OP and nowt wrong with expressing it in a forum. As an aside, there's a bit of unpleasantness to the way critical opinions are responded to, this thread being an example.

[i]"exagerating"? [/i]

It's like exaggerating, but takes less time 😉

Nyss.

cyclocross rocks

I counted 4 road threads on the front page of the bike forum.

Doesn't seem too bad to me.

Maybe people are just seeing what reinforces their prejudices?

I bought that Cyclist magazine for a sticky beak on the plane back to Aus. Turns out it was really quite good, best of the 3-4 magazines I've bought.

I just read the whole of edlong's post. Good eh?

Anyway, this is the middle-class-lifestyle-wood-burner-shaving-recipe-advice chat forum, I don't think you could mistake the Bike Forum (over there << ) (which, in my experience, is always EXTREMELY useful and helpful about MTB (or any other rubbish form of cycling) matters), for anything but a cycling forum.

I'm not sure they'd come to conclusion that this was a "mountain biking" forum and more that it's a middle class car owners forum, a general cycling forum, or just a middle-class lifestyle forum

Umm.. there are two forums here. One is cycling, and one is middle-class lifestyle (and other stuff). You do know about the bike forum page don't you?

Just roughly counted 27 mtb-specific threads on the first page, a few that could be either, about three or four road thrads, some commuting ones and one about sheds.

I posted the thread not because I'm a hater or because I'm the "Thread Police" or because I thought I'd try my hand at Trolling,
To be completely honest I didn't actually have a negative thought when writing the OP,
I've only recently started using the forum, for MTB related and non MTB related posts (Chat Forum), I've added to the community, trying to keep a positive note in my posts, Yes I like to grumble in real life, but I'm generally positive person.

I took an observation about how on a Mountain Biking forum there was a fair amount of Road cycling talk, I wasn't negative to anyone, I simply put my opinion across,
I put a suggestion to people that there was a Road cycling forum in the form of road.cc (I wouldn't expect to see a flurry of Playstation posts on an XBox forum?)

Add that my grammar was poor (Hands Up) I then received a torrent of abuse or just general negativity in reaction a simple suggestion based on my opinion,
Some agreed, some took the extreme, talking of leg shaving fairies or something (don't quote me on that!) but most of which were a negative and often abusive reaction, fine I except that!
We are of course on the internet, freedom to/too(?) express yourself as you please,
However what upsets me is this goes against the pretty good atmosphere that I've felt from the forums in the past couple of months.

I apologize my post caused such negativity 😳

I'm leaving it this

[i]because I thought I'd try my hand at Trolling,[/i]

*reported*

[i]I apologize my post caused such negativity[/i]

A bit of research would have clearly told you that the roadies on here are a very defensive lot 😉

I counted 4 road threads on the front page of the bike forum.

It's not just the thread titles though, is it? Like I said, someone started a thread asking how fast people had gone on their mountain bikes. The title of the thread is "What's the fastest speed you've reached on a mountain bike?" Go and see how many of the replies tell you how fast people have gone on a road bike...

On the subject of segregation, I think it makes forums worse. Many other forums are broken down into extremely specific sub-categories, and this means that people only go to the ones they are interested in, so your posts end up being seen by a handful of people.

In reality, we're not solely interested in one specific thing. We like lots of stuff - I like MTB, road, I commute, I drive a car, I own a house, I drink coffee, I travel, take pictures etc etc. I don't want to have to click through different forums or even sites to talk about this stuff.

The diversity of stuff both cycling and non- is what makes this forum so good. I spend all day on here, I hardly ever go to other forums!

[i]Go and see how many of the replies tell you how fast people have gone on a road bike... [/i]

you could use the 'report post' button to get them removed by the mods for being off topic?

A bit of research would have clearly told you that the roadies on here are a very defensive lot

Why? Are they that insecure about their preferred choice of cycling? 😀

SSHHH!

FWIW and IMO, there are a few reasons for the roadie talk:

1. All cycling is fun and I would guess the majority of MTB owners also own some kind of road bike. The exclusive bit is to a large extent a myth that is sustained merely for the humour/banter value
2. The crap weather and condition of trails has led to many of us getting the road bikes out again
3. There really is not that much MTB stuff to talk about if we are being honest
4. Commited roadies (and especially triathletes like me 😉 ) are easy targets for banter

(endlong, dare I sat* it, while some of your observations are true, you may be missing the hidden element of satire and banter that is behind much of the roadie stuff)

P.s. *I don't think autocorrect helps with the grammar and spelling...sat it?????. Took 4 goes to type endlong and Grum tends to be changed to glum etc which could easily cause (mild) offence!!!

Where's Yodagoat & Stanfree ? They're both batting for the other team 😆

I then received a torrent of abuse

I think your understanding of the phrase "torrent of abuse" is very different from a lot of other people 😐

You're maybe being a "little bit" over sensitive ?

you could use the 'report post' button to get them removed by the mods for being off topic?

There's a bit of a difference between having a mild grumble about it when someone raises the issue in a thread and it strikes me as being a pertinent illustration, and being offended enough to "report post"!!!

I'm not suggesting that the mods should be removing posts about road cycling, and I'm happy that the mood of the hive is what it is - if it moves in a certain direction then so be it, if that means it no longer appeals to some people, then they can move on to another forum, no problem with that. However, I don't see any problem either with discussing it openly since someone has started a thread to do that very thing. I have an opinion, that I would prefer the cycling talk on here to be more about mountain biking and less about road than it currently is, but that's no more than my opinion, not sure why I would expect the mods to remove posts in reflection of it though?

I was being tongue in cheek, sorry for not being clearer.

There's an ebb and flow to these things. There's a surge in road posts when the off road riding is rubbish and again during the grand tours.

As you say, people will either accept it or move on.