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went to a gig last night and now have ringing in the ears, just wondering how long it usually lasts? Guess it depends on the severity of the damage?
you get used to it after 30yrs or so....... 😥
Possibly wot bruneep said sadly. I'm paying the price for too many loud clubnights 🙁
Ear plugs for me now!
It stays with you. You could possibly make it worse, better - not in my experience.
18 years and counting here
If it doesn't go within a few hours then thats it, it's with you forever
Had mine about a year now. Seems to get worse when the stress levels start to rise. Doc said I could get some therapy to help me filter it out but haven't got around to it. Anyone tried the therapy?
25yers and counting for me.
Use earplugs
organic - If it's the normal "post-really loud gig" tinnitus rather than the proper permanent stuff it usually goes in a day or two.
Lasted a week after my first gig. Constant now after years of working with jet aircraft, going to gigs and playing the stereo too loud.
15 years for me.
Mastoidectomy to the right ear and about 50% loss of hearing which has been replaced by constant ringing. 🙁
Edit; On the plus side, I now have a party trick where I can stick half of my little finger down my ear canal were it's been expanded. Not recommended though. 😯
If your ears are ringing you've damaged them to some extent. If you can hear it the next day it's worse. If it's still going after a week it's probably permanent but sometimes eases up within 3 months. Still there after 3 months get used to it.
Get yourself some earplugs now - don't do what most of us did and wait for permanent ringing first. I got away with it many many times but eventually it'll take hold if you don't take care.
toab - it's a cumulative effect of all those "post-really loud gigs" though. Prevention, because there is no cure. Seriously, it's f***ing awful - wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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All day, every day, for ever. Ear plugs kids!
Wot they all said. With luck it'll go away today. If it doesn't you're probably stuck with it. I was told it's agravated by caffeine, red wine, tonic, citrus fruit. I've cut out the caffeine but would prefer not to live a life without fruit or wine.
On the plus side I'm lucky enough to associate it with the pleasant feeling of being dead tired. It doesn't annoy me, it just gets in the way of hearing stuff.
Ebay for a big pile of different earplugs - find one you like. My favourite are MAX LITE SNR34 in flouro green.
I have menieres and have very loud tinnitus.
I doubt you've done any damage with one night out, it'll pass eventually.
Most tinnitus is not caused by external loud noise, mine for example is caused by pressure in my inner ear. People who play in bands or DJs, basically anyone who is exposed to loud noise very regularly, will sometimes develop tinnitus. But for most people who go to a loud nightclub every now and then, the most you'll get is a bit of ringing for a day or two.
Don't worry about it.
woody - I've realsied that now; Mr. Toab has severe hearing loss and tinnitus after a bout of meningitis and it makes things a total PITA.
I'm much more careful with my ears now.
Loud noise is a cause of tinnitus though McHamish, regardless of whether it's the MAIN cause. Loud noise can, and will damage your hearing - even one occasion.
I wonder if some cases are caused by years of using mobile phones. Not much is known about the long term effects yet.
agravated by caffeine, red wine, tonic, citrus
That pretty much sums up the night. 🙂
I started to suffer from it in my mid-teens, so about 25 years ago.
It comes and goes, but thankfully it has not become any worse over time.
"eeeeeeeeee..." that pretty much sums up the rest of your life (that'll be the ringing not the drugs). Mine's become a permanant fixture in the last year or so, but in the last couple of weeks I occasionally get two different notes that switch. Wierd as it happens for no reason, but if it carries on It'll be producing it's own tunes at this rate.
I didn't say loud noise doesn't cause tinnitus...but often there is another cause.
I'm just repeating what my ENT consultant has told me, and from my own research into my tinnitus.
But in the interest of pedantry, noise in your ear of any nature, for any period, where there is no external source, is tinnitus.
But permanent tinnitus from going to a gig or night club doesn't happen that often...unless you were right next to the speakers for an extended period, and the music was very, very loud. Exposure to sudden very loud noise, or loud noise over an extended period can cause tinnitus.
Many people have tinnitus in one form or another, at at sometime during their lives. For the majority it goes away, for others it's permanent. For sufferers who have mild tinnitus, their brain can often learn to filter it out.
must have been a loud one if they're still ringing the day after. I can't remember the last gig I went to, or played, that left me with ringing in the ears. But I guess it's not as loud onstage is it is out front.
Having said that, I read somewhere that the noise level from a snare drum, at the distance that a drummer's head is from the drum, is enough to cause hearing loss after 90 seconds - but I suppose that's 90 seconds of continuous noise at that level, not the very sharp attack & decay that lasts a fraction of a second for every stroke
Sleigh bells?
Mine was brought on in one ear by slamming a car door, September 2007 had it ever since. Got used to it now, the Dr said it might go away, it might not. I've learnt to filter it out now.
My mother has had tinnitus for years now. A couple of years ago we went up l'Aiguille du Midi cablecar in Chamonix (3800m) and she noticed an instant improvement.. This improvement stayed after the descent to the village and even to this day as far as I'm aware...
If it's caused by inner ear pressure then this anecdotal story may actually be backed up by fact..
I would disagree with the statement
"But permanent tinnitus from going to a gig or night club doesn't happen that often."
Almost all the DJs and musicians I know have some form of Tinnitus. I also know people who have worked in noisy environments such as pubs who also have started to suffer.
Look after your ears and wear plugs.
does anyone actually read all the words in a post?
does anyone actually read all the words in a post?
hell no what's the point of that?
McHamish - what have we missed?
People who play in bands or DJs, basically anyone who is exposed to loud noise very regularly, will sometimes develop tinnitus. But for most people who go to a loud nightclub every now and then, the most you'll get is a bit of ringing for a day or two.
But permanent tinnitus from going to a gig or night club doesn't happen that often...unless you were right next to the speakers for an extended period, and the music was very, very loud. [b]Exposure to sudden very loud noise, or loud noise over an extended period can cause tinnitus.[/b]
Got ya!
had it in the left ear for just over a year - don't know the cause but could have been concerts / clubbing / MP3 use so now wear Etymotic ER20 High Fidelity Ear Plugs at concerts and they reduce the volume but you can still hear everything clearly.
Actually...ignore what I say...check out NHS instead.
[url= http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Tinnitus/Pages/Causes.aspx ]NHS Tinnitus Causes[/url]
I personally think the increase in external noise being a factor in the cause of tinnitus is related to the popular use of MP3 players.
Have had it for more years than I can remember. Playing in bands for nearly 40 years, stupidly practicing with headphones on when I was youger and working on stage during gigs really did for my hearing. When the band is too loud now I find it difficult to deal with. Have it worse in one ear than the other so at least I can turn on one side and get some sleep if it's noisy outside.
Had mine since February '89, saw Anthrax at the Hammersmith, ears rang for about a week, then got better, more gigs and now its there all the time.
I now wear earplugs for anything loud now, power tools, gigs, noisy factories etc.
I remember going to a Light of The World gig at Zero 6 in Southend in the very early 1980's. They had a soundsystem with speakers floor to ceiling and powerful enough to easily fill the Albert Hall. We ended up 10 ft from the R/H stack. My right ear was ringing loudly for the first day, then less so for a couple of days after. Stupid things you do when you are a teenager!
Last weekend I went to see Lissie at The Junction in Cambridge (she is awesome btw. One of the audience shouted, "what a fabulous pair of lungs" and double entendres aside, I cannot dispute this! She will make it big one day)
Take a look at the vid....
There are some Youtube vids of the actual gig at The Junction if you can be bothered.
Anyhow, although pretty loud, my ears weren't ringing much after, but my daughter said hers were. That's age for you I guess!! Now Lissie's rig was nowhere near as big and as loud as that of L.O.T.W's, but the Db's were as much as you would want in a venue that size.
I don't have a tinitus problem (thank ****), but these days, I always opt to be out of firing range of any speakers at gigs. The further back you get the better, or off to one side makes a big difference. You are also more likely to hear deep bass further back as this requires distance from the listener for the speakers to deliver what they are designed for.
Got my tinitus in about 1990 after a car crash and massive bump on the noggin.
Whilst I could be angry (crash not my fault) and upset, as I was the only one left alive, I am eternally thankful that I got away with so little, compared to the others.
Persistent loud noise will, according to the doc I spoke to a few years ago, induce tinnitus.
Daft as it may sound, the advice was "not to listen to it", it does help, but only a little.
+1 for earplugs.
Anyone have any custom made ear plugs? Just wondering how "descrete" they can be. All the ones I've seen/used so far stick out and are easily spotted a mile off.
Try Etymotic Research for "discrete" custom earplugs.
The music industry have been using them for years.
had mine for about 8 years after a sinus infection. See the British Tinnitus Association web site which has useful info.
I had/have tiniitus from a year in my early 20's as a rep, high speed motorway journeys with the window open and radio blasting wayfarers on...
Anyhooooo it bugged me really badly for about a year until I found out about this american doc who did double blind research with tinnitus sufferers and non tinnitus sufferers. He put them in soundproof rooms and played random noises at random levels, and found no correlation between sufferers and hearing npise, in fact lots of non sufferers reported noises when there were non and vice versa. So he came up wtih "retraining therapy" where he showed people this effect and convinced them that all people have ringing/noises it just some have been made aware of them due to damage or infection etc.
The upshot being that I essentially trained myself to filter it out and I can actually turn it on or off at will.
How? Embrace the noise, trey and love it, look for it, expect it, be happpy when you hear it, one morning you will wake up and it wont be there.
OK. If this all sounds like a load of crap, and maybe it is, but it worked for me, comprehensively. I'm a scientist, and really only respond to evidence, I read this guys research and the evidence was there, the rest was up to my own interpretation.
Get some Elacin ER15 best earplugs going for gigs concerts etc, trust me I'm an audiologist and my clients swear by them, otherwise risk being left with the ringing on a permanent basis.
Reseach I talked about up there was called the heller and bergman experiment, you can download the paper from 1953 on [url=www.tinnitus.org]www.tinnitus.org[/url]
OK its been 5 days now and I still have a high pitched "pinging" tone in my left ear, the one that was facing the speakers. I dont hear it during the day, but notice it when I try to go to sleep.
Thinking I need to go to the Docs?
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you can go to the doc, but you'll never get the hearing back. [url= http://www.tinnitus.org.uk/ ]UK Tinnitus association[/url] Going gigging? These folks want to help [url= http://www.dontlosethemusic.com/home/ ]RNID[/url]
That heller & bergman experiment is cited a bit. It also seems to be an experiment of its time. The stats seem rudimentary and in the table of results it looks like there's a difference in what the subjects 'heard' that isn't readily accounted for in the summary results. The conclusion seems fair though "[i]Tinnitus, which is subaudible, may be a physiological phenomenon in an intact auditory apparatus.[/i]". ie Hearing impaired and unimpaired folks hear noises.
A friend of mine is a professional sound engineer and an accomplished guitarist. He was taught at a young age to always wear earplugs or good quality ear monitors. As it is his business he cannot afford to have his hearing deterIorate any more than the ageing process naturally does.
He wears some very expensive custome made ear monitors (£800 I think) which are natural coloured (matched to his skin colour!) and expensive earplugs at other times.
He always says that one severe moment of feedback could wreck his hearing enough to make it difficult to run his business and certainly hold his guitar playing back.
Standing next to the speaker stacks at a gig is stupid or playing in a band without ear protection equally so.
Phil Collins can now barely play the drums now he has such severe hearing damage and Pete Townsend has severe tinnitus which he puts down to an pyrotechnic explosion at a gig that went wrong and years of loud headphone use.
EDIT Phil Collins actually can't play due to hearing loss via a viral infection and a back problem. I'm sure I heard an interview with him that said it was due to loud drums but I may have been mistaken.