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Has anyone else noticed the BBC Sports reports of late? BBC breakfast is the worst, but its creeping in across the board.
Firstly it was women's football, after the men's, describing the game that no one even knew was happening, like it was important!
Then women's cricket....talking about The Ashes matches that no one even knew was going on, let alone were interested!
Finally the other day, when there was so many other things to talk about, they started going on about a female arsenal player who was leaving and going to play for another team. I like football, support Arsenal, but have never heard of this woman, as the team she plays for couldn't beat the Arsenal under 15's boys team!
Absolutely nothing against women....I have three daughters and wife, but they aren't slightly interested either, so who is it aimed at?
(apologies for the lack of capitals and swear filter avoidance :oops:)
I also hate computers.
Well at least we know where the "ape" bit of your username comes from...
OP being dismissed out of hand by white knights in 5.....4....3....
[i]so who is it aimed at?[/i]
Good question. A lot of women's boxing matches are being put high on the bill of undercards - the commentators try to sell it, but I hit FFWD every time.
To balance, the women's rugby 7s in the Olympics was brilliant. Watched loads of that.
To the OP because (wider) recognition for women's sport needs to start somewhere.
I do not read the Grauniad or Socialist Worker.
Rorschach are you still running Windows vista 😛
Edit: yay I'm a white knight according to Jamie (normally I'm the black sheep).
I also hate computers.
Bravo
OP being dismissed out of hand by white knights in 5.....4....3....
I didn't even know they were on here
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It's bad enough when they talk about cycling that no one knows is going on.
Why can't they stick to football, rugby and cricket? Played by men.
I didn't even know they were on here
They're everywhere.
Watching.
Waiting.
Sometimes I see TV shows, news reports or even entire websites about things I'm not interested in.
They're everywhere.Watching.
Waiting.
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Chicken and egg isn't it? People are not aware of it/interested as there's no coverage and there's coverage as there's no interest/awareness. So, in my opinion rightly, they have decided to generate some interest by talking about it and showing it.
Related, did anyone else hear Sara Orchard commentating on the England-Aus rugby match at the weekend? She was absolutely brilliant.
describing the game that no one even knew was happening
the Ashes matches that no one even knew was going on
have never heard of this woman,
Can you think why you may not have been aware of these events?
Come on you 'Spurs.
I am trying to see the OP's point but I really can't. I have little interest in women's football, just as I have little interest in men's curling or any form of horse dancing.
But I am not the BBC's target audience, I am a consumer of information they share being a news outlet and some other people will be much more interested in reading about women's football or judo or sailing than they would be about road racing or Leeds United or The Ashes or F1.
EDIT: However, I have found myself getting interested in some of the women's events (especially when 'we' are doing well. For example, I have started to read a few articles about the women's Ashes tour.
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Firstly it was women's football, after the men's, describing the game that no one even knew was happening, like it was important!
It's just as important as men's sport. And surely if no-one knew it was happening, that's a great reason to tell everyone about?
A true sports lover is interested in any sport, doesn't matter what gender is playing it.
I think the first rule before posting subjects like this is to at least make a small attempt to understand the contrary view. Might be enlightening
did anyone else hear Sara Orchard commentating on the England-Aus rugby match at the weekend?
Is she the woman who was doing the pitch-side punditry? She was good, better than many others I've seen doing it.
OP, they're doing it on purpose to wind you up specifically.
Bastards.
See, the thing about Arsenal is they always try to walk it in.
The womans English team gets more highlighted coverage than the Scottish premier league. Nothing to do with them being female, just that they are English. The BBC is biased.
Is she the woman who was doing the pitch-side punditry? She was good, better than many others I've seen doing it
Not sure, she was doing the main commentary though. I thought she was brilliant, picked up a few things the no-one else did, was very knowledgeable and generally did the job well. Irrelevant of her sex, she was as good a commentator as I've heard for a while.
The womans English team gets more highlighted coverage than the Scottish premier league.
[troll]Rightly so, they want to show elite sport not 3rd or 4th tier stuff[\troll]
It's just as important as men's sport. And surely if no-one knew it was happening, that's a great reason to tell everyone about?A true sports lover is interested in any sport, doesn't matter what gender is playing it.
Oh purleese! Its not about what I like or don't like....its about what is popular. ITV sport don't do it, Sky don't do it....its just a waste of air time! Clearly you lot are not [i]getting[/i] it....so I'm off to write to Points of View!
We need more obscure, poorly-followed sports on telly, not fewer. Bring back World of Sport and Kabbadi.
Wouldn't life be boring if we all liked the same things.
I do wonder however whether the BBC has a much bigger focus on women's sport these days not just because they want to promote excellent women's sport (which I wholeheartedly applaud) but also because the TV rights are a lot cheaper than the men's versions, prices inflated hugely out of proportion by the Murdochs & co of this world?
its just a waste of air time!
So the remit of a publicly-funded broadcaster is simply to make programmes that deliver the highest audience share?
and....
The argument that 'women are worse at the sports' is fatuous anyway, because there's been coverage for years of men's sports where the team being reported on are crap.
Scottish premier league.
Being a case in point "Celtic got beaten in Europe. Again"
so who is it aimed at?
Women who play sport? A demographic that is well worth increasing...
There's also lots of stuff on the BBC that I'm not interested in.
Not sure why I should be pissed off about it though?
well, this is awkward.
think you might have outed yourself as someone who watches BBC breakfast 😳
I’m glad of the extra coverage of Women’s Rugby and Cricket.
Bring back World of Sport and Kabbadi.
+1
Kabbadi is ace to watch.
molgrips - MemberFirstly it was women's football, after the men's, describing the game that no one even knew was happening, like it was important!
It's just as important as men's sport. And surely if no-one knew it was happening, that's a great reason to tell everyone about?
A true sports lover is interested in any sport, doesn't matter what gender is playing it.
On-one knows about the result of the latest under 11's match at my local school. Is that a good reason to tell everyone about it? 🙄
Apparently if you are a true sports lover, you should be interested. 😀
If you want to get angry about something on the BBC - how about Bargain Hunt?
That's a waste of taxpayers money if ever I saw one. And we're paying that dullard Tim Wonnacott a fortune.
Not any more, he got sacked a while ago*.And we're paying that dullard Tim Wonnacott a fortune.
*So Mrs.Pinkster tells me**.
**honest.
[b]On-one[/b] knows about the result of the latest under 11's match at my local school. Is that a good reason to tell everyone about it?
is this something to do with them trying to sell jimmy saville bikes a while ago?
On-one knows about the result of the latest under 11's match at my local school. Is that a good reason to tell everyone about it?Apparently if you are a true sports lover, you should be interested.
Well, don't leave us in suspense! Match report and final score, please!
The Woodkirk Valley Under 12s had a disappointing result on Saturday: 2 - 1 down at half time but performing strongly and dominating possession, it all fell apart in the 2nd half and it ended with a 6-2 defeat.
When I'm in charge - and it must be my turn soon - all pro sports events that are gender specific would have to run parallel events for men and women, have equal prize money, pay, sponsorship and media coverage.
If we have it, they will come. So to speak.
If you want to get angry about something on the BBC - how about Bargain Hunt?
Yeah but they've only ever shot 14 episodes of that, which they repeat on an endless loop and no one notices.
See also Grand Designs.
Saying you have no interest in the mass media's coverage of a sport because you have never heard of the people involved, and didn't know the event was taking place, is like telling your Doctor you're not interested in the result of your medical scan because you' weren't aware you were ill and have never heard of the illness. Either watch it and learn something, or turn it off. TBH I don't care either way.
We need more obscure, poorly-followed sports on telly, not fewer. Bring back World of Sport and Kabbadi.
Best game ever! I was also quite keen on Sumo as a kid when C4 used to have it on.
Never seen a womens' team for either of those, so that should keep the OP happy 🙂
Yeah but they've only ever shot 14 episodes of that, which they repeat on an endless loop and no one notices.
Plus Dion Dublin is now on Homes Under the Hammer, which adds to the over-representation of the men's game on the BBC.
I was also quite keen on Sumo
Me too! I may have dreamed it, but I remember a fair bit of Ozzie Rules football cropping up when I was younger, which was also a lot more entertaining than most sports.
Shinty doesn't get nearly enough coverage. There's a sport.
Hockey for people that don't like their teeth.
I hate it when I watch the TV and the sports news comes on talking about football, players and managers that I have no idea who they are, no knowledge of the games being played as if it is important and I should give a monkeys, which I don't.
Also, why is my BBC news feed telling about someone I have never heard of 'going into the jungle' which I assume is referring to a TV show that I have no interest in. This is not news.
They've got entire web pages devoted to this sexist filth Rockape!
We need more obscure, poorly-followed sports on telly, not fewer. Bring back World of Sport and Kabbadi.
If you're OK with an online substitute, might I suggest Reddit's take on the mighty Ocho?
If you're OK with an online substitute, might I suggest Reddit's take on the mighty Ocho?
That's a couple of days wasted right there. 🙂
Hurrah, glad someone's finally said it. I've watched more than the odd women's football match and it's mostly rubbish. generally school boy level defending, it's embarrassing. As for the women's Ashes give me break, since Sky took over the cricket hardly anyone cares about the proper Ashes, let alone the women's version.
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Anyway, old man shakes fist in air because wonen's sport get's some coverage … yawn.
I have no problem with media covering any sport but stuff that makes the mainstream news, the level of coverage should reflect the true level of interest.
The womens football attracts crowds on par with the National league.
When do you ever hear any news of Gateshead's latest transfer on the Radio 4 news?
Ask your wife or daughter to show you how to change channel
I have no problem with media covering any sport but stuff that makes the mainstream news, the level of coverage should reflect the true level of interest.
Cobblers. If the beeb just pandered to populist choice, the news would cover nothing more than who's eating weird bits of animals in a jungle, which Essex or Chelsea based reality muppet was shagging which and, for the oldsters, why everything's shit and was better in the olden days. If that's what you want, the Daily Mail is available on paper and online.
That said, the (women's) Euro semi-final got 4 million viewers which was more than Celebrity Big Brother, so it's hardly an obscure minority sport with no interest.
That said, the (women's) Euro semi-final got 4 million viewers
But the standard of play was still embarrassingly awful.
But the standard of play was still embarrassingly awful.
Even if it was, surely the best way to remedy that is to get more girls into playing football?
And a good way to do that is for them to see other women playing football on telly to provide some positive role models.
Sounds like something a public service broadcaster might do...
But the standard of play was still embarrassingly awful.
Doesn't stop Scottish football and Welsh rugby getting shown on the telly.
Sounds like something a public service broadcaster might do...
Sounds like social engineering to me...
I don’t understand watching sports full stop. I do think that women’s sports should get the same coverage though. Why shouldn’t they?
I am more upset that there is more football on TV.
Sounds like social engineering to me...
Yes. Is that not part of the remit of a public service broadcaster?
Fishing’s really popular isn’t it? Why isn’t there any competitive fishing on the telly? Bastards
Tam Cowan bbc Scotland was suspended for 2 weeks after his cheeky remarks in the daily record in 2013 was all about womens football that was played at Motherwell
Back at the bbc and it was much worse than probably David Moyes was caught saying or even Andy Gray and Richard keys
I want to see more of this on telly:
That's what I pay my license fee for 😆
Then women's cricket....talking about The Ashes matches that no one even knew was going on, let alone were interested!
You should have watched or listened to it - was an excellent series.
As for football, I don't give a stuff about it whether played by men or women. I'm sure some people do though.
I agree with the OP - I couldn't care less about the women's football result. Did they play a match, can't say I'd noticed?
Mind you the same goes for the men's football.
Women's cricket though, some impressive skills on display there. Especially from Sarah Taylor the keeper.
Yes. Is that not part of the remit of a public service broadcaster?
Is it? Really? Who decides what the social engineering should be aiming at?
I never [i]ever[/i] thought I'd be saying this but perhaps the Daily Heil has it right after all.
*Goes for a lie down*
Fishing’s really popular isn’t it? Why isn’t there any competitive fishing on the telly? Bastards
There is on Sky.
But on the more general point I think it is a perfectly sensible for the BBC to promote women's sport as this fits in with their wider remit. However, it is worth asking why it is the women's versions of men's sport seem to get the coverage rather than say Netball which has much higher participation levels than Rugby or Cricket. It may simply be becausr those sports are pumping a lot of money into the women's game.
I have mixed views on watching women's sport which are full of contradictions as I am quite evangelical on participation. Can't watch soccer, but not a big watcher of the men's game. Can't watch Rugby football even though this was very much my game, just can't get to grips with women being that physically aggressive. But really enjoy watching hockey and cricket, which my daughter does, and I regard going to the Women's World Cup final as one of the best days out I have had at a sporting event - top 5 certainly.
so who is it aimed at?
Bedding wetting Guardian readers?
People who've never watched men play football before?
As far as Sarah Orchard is concerned, didn't really notice her which is a compliment - but she is not allowed to takeover from the king of Montage, the great Eddie Butler, one of the best voices in sport.
Is it? Really?
Well these sorts of things [url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/corporate2/insidethebbc/managementstructure/bbccharterandagreement ]the BBC Charter and Agreement[/url] might cover it:
..should encourage people to explore new subjects and participate in new activities through partnerships with educational, sporting and cultural institutions.....to broaden sports coverage, to better support sports which currently receive less broadcast coverage...
..the BBC must have particular regard to the need to
reflect underrepresented communities...should accurately and authentically represent and portray the lives of the people of the United Kingdom today, and raise awareness of the different cultures and alternative viewpoints that make up its society.
Who decides what the social engineering should be aiming at?
Director General + the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport I suppose.
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I'm guessing a number of contributors to this thread are trolls but, even if they are or are not, it serves to demonstrate why everybody from Harvey Weinstein to the slightly too touchy-feely guy at the office can get away with what they do.
Shinty doesn't get nearly enough coverage. There's a sport.
Your case would be more persuasive if you posted a link to a shinty game.
[/b]The Pilot - MemberI'm guessing a number of contributors to this thread are trolls but, even if they are or are not, it serves to demonstrate why everybody from Harvey Weinstein to the slightly too touchy-feely guy at the office c[b]an get away with what they do.
YEAH!!!! They do don't they! the guy in the office and Harvey Weinstein...they all get away with it. Horrible men. Dirty ****** men molesting and harassing women all over Hollywood and your office. It's a real problem.
Given that men earn more than women it's a safe bet that they contribute more to the licence fee too. That means that women are already over-represented on the BBC.
YEAH!!!! They do don't they! the guy in the office and Harvey Weinstein...they all get away with it. Horrible men. Dirty ****** men molesting and harassing women all over Hollywood and your office. It's a real problem.
You saw the recent Mumsnet thread we linked to here, right? For your convenience:
https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3059623-to-ask-for-a-diary-of-sexual-harassment
Your case would be more persuasive if you posted a link to a shinty game.
Huh?
The video entitled [i]"Firewood! Scotland player breaks [b]shinty[/b] stick off Irish player"[/i], posted by the Gaelic[b]Shinty[/b]Hurling channel, featuring big advertising hoardings in the background for [b]Shinty[/b].com, with the BBC commentator saying [i]"Ooof! First [b]Shinty[/b] stick broken this afternoon"[/i] doesn't actually feature shinty?
Well there you go. You can understand my confusion. Clearly it needs more coverage so I can tell the difference. 😀
I'm guessing a number of contributors to this thread are trolls but, even if they are or are not, it serves to demonstrate why everybody from Harvey Weinstein to the slightly too touchy-feely guy at the office can get away with what they do.
Huh?
Despite being one of the SJW White Knight libtard snowflakes I'm struggling to see the connection here. Some people don't like watching women's football therefore rapists?