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"Hikers and mountain bikers have been urged to protect themselves after health officials confirmed that a potentially deadly virus spread by ticks is present in the UK.
The first confirmed domestically acquired case of tick-borne encephalitis virus (TBEV) was identified in a 50-year-old man who was bitten by ticks while mountain biking in Yorkshire."
Has the risk actually increased or is it a case that people don't understand how statistics work? Sometimes a one in a million thing does happen.
In the Dales on holiday now and my wife found one on top of the duvet after a walk yesterday afternoon. Like a whirling dervish she was shaking everything out, hoovering and had a shower and check over. I was quite surprised 🤣 Didn't find anymore.
This isn't the first UK confirmed tick-borne encephalitis; there was another just pre covid, a female walker in SE England.
But it is still incredibly rare compared to Lyme, for which everyone should be aware and taking sensible precautions anyway.
It's a disease that did not occur here, that now does. So the risk of contracting has gone from zero to 'something'. It is useful to make people aware of its presence and symptoms, even if very rare atm.
Pulled 3 off the dog yesterday - had hoped the snow and frost would have killed a few more off. The only thing entertaining about ticks is when the robins hop on the backs of the deer and pick them out their ears.
Has the risk actually increased or is it a case that people don’t understand how statistics work? Sometimes a one in a million thing does happen.
As Terry Pratchett points out million-to-one chances crop up nine times out of ten.
nine times out of ten.
Are you not getting confused with the 'how many people are happy at a gangbang' statistic?
But yeah ticks - ****s
Glad my wife wasn’t eating when I repeated that
She's a detectorist?
TBEV - pah! Wait until we get Crimean Congo Haemorrhagic Fever on the S.Coast....then the media will have something to write about!
Are you not getting confused with the ‘how many people are happy at a gangbang’ statistic?
Don't think Pratchett wrote about gangbangs that often. Or at all.
I get vaccinated for it, as it's considered a fairly high risk, we get between 400 and 600 confirmed cases a year in Sweden, mostly once they get to hospital or the doctors, with some quite nasty symptons. AFAIK it's normally like a mild flu. But can get all the way up to hallucinations, confusion, paralysis and so on.
And i spend most of the summer in the forest.
We're in the middle of a known area for TBE.
And i've been infected with borrelia (Bullseye bite) as well.
Just to gauge thoughts on here - how many would consider paying for a vaccine for tick borne encephalitis @£65
Yearly? One off? Side effects? Efficacy?
I just put a dab of frontline behind my ears when i go out dogging
Just to gauge thoughts on here – how many would consider paying for a vaccine for tick borne encephalitis @£65
I had mine done a few years ago, reminds me I probably need a booster tbh.
This isn’t the first UK confirmed tick-borne encephalitis; there was another just pre covid, a female walker in SE England.
(my bold)
So far as I'm aware TBE has been found in the UK previously but this is the first confirmed domestically aquired case? Happy to be contradicted mind.
Yearly? One off? Side effects? Efficacy?
So far as I remember, three yearly, but I need to check (see my previous)
>96%
£65 for a 3 year TBE vaccination, not sure. For Lyme, absolutely, where do I sign up?
Don't think Lyme vaccination is approved yet.
That being said, given the choice between the two I think I'd rather risk Lyme than TBE, but assuming they don't pose an issue together mind I'll be having both ta.
The TBE vaccination is £65 per jab and you need a course of 3 to be fully effective. I had the first jab at the end of 2019 for a planned canoe trip in Finland. The remaining jabs and the trip were both cancelled due to Covid.
When in tick areas I try to minimise the risk of being bitten; keep away from vegetation where possible, smooth outer clothing, tuck upper body clothing into lower, dust off before going into tent etc.
First became aware in the mid 70's when it was a big problem with folk on orienteering holidays in Central Europe, especially Hungary and Czechoslovakia. Over the years it has crept westward and the Dire Warnings to orienteers have covered a wider area. The vaccine was available back then and expensive.
Are you not getting confused with the ‘how many people are happy at a gangbang’ statistic?
I opened this thread and only read the first couple of replies before turning to my colleague and talking about the Jimmy Carr gang-bang joke. (JC played locally last week and someone repeated that joke.) I then scrolled down - I have STW on a suitably work-safe small window - and found your reply.
What are the odds on that coincidence? 😀
What are the odds on that coincidence? 😀
Zero.
It's your phone listening to your conversations then changing web content on the fly to match that conversation. No one else can even see the reply you're quoting.
like @mert, I paid for the TBEV vaccine when I moved here to Sweden. I know a lot of people that have been ticked and/or had bullseye bites, so it made sense to get protection from it.
Time to get the Bravecto for the dog then. Amazing stuff, I usually wait until the first tick, one dose then she is tick free for the rest of the season. A shame there isn't a human equivalent.
Someone should do research on me though, I've never had a tick. I hang out in the hills all of the time in high tick environments, everyone I am with gets them but I have never had a single one. They obviously don't like my blood.
@franksinatra I guess that's life, or maybe you've just never noticed as you've got them under your skin?
What are the odds on that coincidence? 😀
Unless I'm your work colleague?
{Leans back from PC and waves at you}
What are the odds on that coincidence? 😀
Unless I’m your work colleague?
{Leans back from PC and waves at you}
You've upgraded to a BMW 520, I see! 😀
@franksinatra I guess that’s life, or maybe you’ve just never noticed as you’ve got them under your skin?
Yearly? One off?
3 jabs over 18 months I think. Then one every 4 or 5 years.
Side effects?
nothing for me to our any of the family, but I've heard some get mild flu like symptoms for 36 hours
Efficacy?
no idea. But amongst immediate family and friends you can guarantee at least 3 or 4 a year will get a bullseye bite and the antibiotics.
But no one I know has got TBE recently (and almost everyone I know gets the jab.)
So probably pretty effective.
For some reason they love me *ticks not doggers*
I'd pay for a jab.
In the Dales on holiday now and my wife found one on top of the duvet after a walk yesterday afternoon.
bloody detectorists, they get everywhere!
TBEV – pah! Wait until we get Crimean Congo Haemorrhagic Fever on the S.Coast….then the media will have something to write about!
It looks like it could be on the way!
Crimean-Congo haemorrhagic fever