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The ones about Nigg.
Good job they weren't about Linlithgow.
You'd be sexist as well as racist.
I thought you’d be pleased that a more sensible approach had been taken this time.
I don't think it's sensible at all. STW should not be providing a platform for gratuitous offence, even when the poster is one of the mods' favourites.
gratuitous offence...
Really though... was [b]anyone[/b] actually offended? Or just typed stuff because they thought they should?
A quick search brings up half a dozen posts where you made the same joke.
I got a temporary ban.
Yup, yet you still continued to make the same joke.
Before it was deleted a few folk chipped in with an explanation.
Like they've done on here?
Really though… was <strong class="bbcode-strong">anyone actually offended? Or just typed stuff because they thought they should?
I do find advocating mass murder in a Holocaust way offensive, sorry if that makes me a snowflake.
Really though… was <strong class="bbcode-strong">anyone actually offended?
Yes. It comes with giving a shit.
was <strong class="bbcode-strong">anyone actually offended?
Yep, I was a bit offended when someone suggested that I might have been providing oral pleasure to Binners but luckily, they edited it before I had the chance to read it so, no harm done.
They [i]were[/i]?? How weird.
Yes. They were
They know who they are. So do I.
Revenge is a dish best served with smashed avocado.
It's SO au fait at the moment and it really makes it "pop"
I am probably the epitome of the STW stereotype of a leftie handwringer liberal snowflake and to me Binners post was simply a joke taking the line espoused by some on here to its extremes to point out their view were tasteless. reductio ad absurdum
But then I do know who Binners is and I can see once again nuance and meaning gets lost in text.
Even as a joke, it's in very poor taste, as serious historical context etc.
Rather than admit it and cop some flack he decided to double down and has kept doing that through the tread.
They <em class="bbcode-em">were?? How weird.
Yes, strange how people can react to things written down or said.
Mike - reductio ad absurdum
reductio ad absurdum
My second favourite spell after Wingardium Leviosa
I prefer the one that creates straw men or the magic Edinburgh Defence against the Ban Hammer
But this is STW, nobody would say anything like that and not mean it as a joke. That's bleedin obvious to anyone who has been on here more than a week. An offensive joke!? Noooo!
He even said "I’m normally a hand-wringing, Guardian-reading lefty who thinks that all colours and creeds can live together in perfect harmony.." before it.
Oh well, I'll just get on with being too thick to understand.
I am probably the epitome of the STW stereotype of a leftie handwringer liberal snowflake and to me Binners post was simply a joke taking the line espoused by some on here to its extremes to point out their view were tasteless. reductio ad absurdum
I don’t know Binners other than through here and even I could tell it wasn’t a serious comment. I also agree that TJ is the epitome of STW leftie handwringer (and probably a communist) 😉
There was no vitriol in the post and I don’t think I’ve actual ever read a serious post by Binners unless it relates to Greggs confections.
The fact that he has chosen to carry on with the comedy approach and people are still getting upset about it is what’s keeping the thread alive. Keep reeling them in Binners you little Tinker
But this is STW, nobody would say anything like that and not mean it as a joke
Absolutely this. I don't even like avocado.
Genuine question.
Would it have been a different result if I had said it instead of Binners?
I'd like to think that i've established an online persona which is such that I could play the Edinburgh Defence and anyone reasonable would say " Yeah, Fair enough. He probably WAS joking"
I've put loads of prep work in for that very scenario.
I thought smashed avocado was someone going mental with a baseball bat in a bathroom showroom in 1973
Genuine question.
Would it have been a different result if I had said it instead of Binners?
Try it out, see what happens?
On a serious note. Well.... as serious as I'm ever going to get.... I comment on loads of stuff on here and it's fairly apparent that I actually am a hand-wringing Guardian-reading lefty. So to state that then say, but... (in the manner of the usual 'I'm not racist, but...) and then go on to advocate rounding people up in cattle trucks, building gas chambers then getting stuck in to a bit of good old-fashioned genocidal mass-murder?
Seriously?
Get a grip!
I could have said this 3 pages ago, but I'm been having far too much fun! 😀
I've not had this much of a response since I suggested I was going to beat my next door neighbours dog to death with a cricket bat. I meant that about as seriously, and thought it would have been equally as apparent that I was joking. That one led to a ban, and then I started getting emailed death threats. Seriously. Which I had a right old laugh replying too
Anyway...., don't let me stem the flow of the rightful tide of the indignant....
Carry on!
beat my next door neighbours dog to death with a cricket bat.
That's too far, you bloody Communist nobhead.
I'd send you to a Gulag in the Arctic where you would be forcibly worked to exhaustion and starved to the point of eating your own fingers for that.
All in a Joe Stalin-esque manner of course.
...and no pudding.
😀
I would just like to state for the record that I have never, nor will I ever, beat a dog to death with a cricket bat.
Not my next door neighbors or anybody else’s.
and I’m not trying to advocate anyone else does either
Just so we’ve no confusion on this one...
But you'd still oppress a gypsy, yeah?
Make your bloody mind up.
This death threat has more Tipp-Ex on it than anything else now......
Depends. Has the gypsy got a dog with them?
I would just like to state for the record that I have never, nor will I ever, beat a dog to death with a cricket bat.
Hang on is that the joke?
Depends. Has the gypsy got a dog with them?
No. It's a dag
It's on a bit of string.
So essentially a mercy killing, yeah?
I would just like to state for the record that I have never, nor will I ever, beat a dog to death with a cricket bat.
What about a cat?
I doubt they’d do much damage to a dog.
What about a cat?
At King's Bollege, Bambridge?
What is your bat of choice binners? More of a baseball bat? I'd have thought cricket would be a bit too middle class for you
i do love how every thing on here becomes a simple point scoring exercise and an exercise in being morally more outraged than the last person!
Clearly modern travellers, not the lovely heather sellers of old, but the modern "park where we like caravan club" are a problem, i've not heard a single suggestion of what could be done to improve the situation from anyone including those from that background, it has just been 7 pages of point-scoring....
I don't live too far from Cromer, mentioned above, not a single conviction came from those stabbings and disorder. I was in Brighton for a bank holiday weekend, where the whole of the main strip had to be closed following a wedding, i watched them peeing up the walls, helping themselves to beer, trashing fittings, again at a cost of an estimated £800,000 in bank holiday weekend trade to those pubs and bars, not a single conviction. So whilst we can all try and out politically correct each other it is a clear problem, what do people suggest to tackle the issue?
I’d have thought cricket would be a bit too middle class for you
Subversion of the bourgousie by the proletariat, innit.
Missed this thread. Can someone fill me in....
What about a cat?
I doubt they’d do much damage to a dog.
are you sure about that......
A baseball bat? Oh no! No frightful Americanisms, please? At heart I’m quite traditional....
Read the thread and folk think Ted/Binners is a racist.
Really???? For **** Sake.
Is that Binner’s cat? I heard Scoutroutes has a Labdrador but can’t recall what he calls it.
Not a racist.
A genocidal, megalomaniacal, fascist dictator.
....and a nobhead
Which, if you read his extreme views on pies and pastry, is probably fair enough.
Read the thread and folk think Ted/Binners is a racist.
No people don't. took something too far? Made a joke about something that isn't funny? Crossed a line? Yep
Follow that up with the mods missing the point and using the mates rules of modding
Binners earlier....
Follow that up with the mods missing the point and using the mates rules of modding
Mates rules? Hahahaha!
a knobhead, earlier
what do people suggest to tackle the issue?
enforced sterilization, I've already said it...
Maybe there should be an amnesty called followed by a resolve for some actual legal enforcement for future disruptions - staffing up the police with some ex-army types, etc 🙂
staffing up the police with some ex-army types
relevant ones would all be pretty old by now - and mostly in South America
Seriously?
Get a grip!
I could have said this 3 pages ago, but I’m been having far too much fun! I’ve not had this much of a response since I suggested I was going to beat my next door neighbours dog to death with a cricket bat. I meant that about as seriously, and thought it would have been equally as apparent that I was joking. That one led to a ban, and then I started getting emailed death threats. Seriously. Which I had a right old laugh replying too
Anyway…., don’t let me stem the flow of the rightful tide of the indignant….
See. this is how it starts
Before you know it, you'll be revelling in watching the increasingly tortuous lengths of hypocrisy that the usual suspects will twist to as they become infuriated and abusive over anything you say... due to your well known fascist supporting, nazi sympathising, racist, right wing beliefs.
the mates rules of modding
Several people have accused me / us of that on here now. Binners isn't a "mate," I've met him once probably about five years ago.
As I've said (clearly and several times now, so I thought), I ignored his comment because I knew it was a joke. I knew it was a joke not because he's a "mate" but because I've spent more than eight seconds on this forum and therefore had a reasonable notion that he's rarely serious about anything other than pastry-based goods and crayons.
Honestly, there's some folk on here that take great delight in twisting absolutely everything we say or do in order to point-score or otherwise run us down, they could make fusilli from spaghetti. It's gone from merely frustrating to bloody depressing.
Read the thread and folk think Ted/Binners is a racist.
Well, you've read the bits that haven't been modded out. Just think Bernard Manning at his most leftie insulting prime and you're halfway there.
[i]I’ve spent more than eight seconds on this forum[/i]
I said a week. Shall we meet in the middle at around 12 minutes?
As I’ve said (clearly and several times now, so I thought), I ignored his comment because I knew it was a joke.
OK fair enough Cougar. Even as a joke is it really acceptable was the question? Had the P____ been Jewish would it have stayed up?
If you'd like to write a comprehensive list of what we are and aren't allowed - by you - to joke about, that'd be great, sweetheart
Just to avoid any future moist PJ's incidents
In a spectacular incidence of point-missing, by quite some distance, you're still not getting it, are you? Despite a few people who did get it, having already explained it. Repeatedly!
try dialling down your frothing indignation for a second....
Here goes...... It was my attempt to pre-empt the usual hang's and flog'em brigades inevitable 'kill 'em all' posts (see above), and so the piss-taking was aimed squarely at them. Hence the extremity of the reference and the specific way it was worded
"I'm not a racist, but....."
You see... like most jokes, it doesn't really work once you've had to deconstruct it to explain it, does it?
Happy now?
Actually... don't answer that. I think I can guess.....
Its a sunny Friday afternoon fella. Lighten up a bit, eh? 😀
So whilst we can all try and out politically correct each other it is a clear problem, what do people suggest to tackle the issue?
Personally I’d lay down a trail of lead flashing and copper pipe that leads to a cage cunningly disguised as a knackered caravan. Like a giant mouse trap, but with metal rather than cheese as the bait. We could then release them in the countryside a few miles away or, err, something else.......
Binners, do you have any suggestions?
moist PJ’s incidents
Aw.....Jeff man!
Ah'm soakin' !
What you posted was crass and offensive, as many have said. Common decency should mean no one has to write a list: you should know already.
If you’d like to write a list of what we are and aren’t allowed – by you – to joke about, that’d be great, sweetheart
Short list really, racist stuff and the death of millions of people in europe under Hitlers direction.
Has somebody swapped out your vaping juice for nicotine free?
Still not got it, have you?
Whatever you do, don't watch any episodes of Frankie Boyle's New World Order.
You may explode
How about Pol Pot - he killed millions. Is it OK to joke about his antics because it was only brown folk? Or Bush / Blair? Killed millions in the middle east. Only a bunch of ( no I am not going to say it or even give you a clue)
How about Pol Pot – he killed millions.
....and went on to win Britains Got Talent.
As if the world hadn't suffered enough.
Whatever you do, don’t watch any episodes of Frankie Boyle’s New World Order.
Nah, he’s far smarter than you.
You posted a racist and offensive statement. You’re now pretending it was a joke. It seems that whilst not being explicitly condoned by the mods, it has been tolerated for whatever reason. That does not mean that it’s ok, nor does it mean you should keep swinging for those who call you out on it.
What you posted was crass and offensive, as many have said. Common decency should mean no one has to write a list: you should know already.
This.
Ok Enough now.
Binners was joking, but it was misjudged. As is so often the case on forums it's easy to think you are just talking with a close circle of friends who know you and understand the context of your statements. But that's not the case. You are speaking aloud and beyond that circle to the general public at large and so you need really think about what you post and empathise with the general public who will 'over hear' it and make judgements based on your words.
I'm closing this thread now. I may leave it here as some kind of lesson and because I (and the mods) hate deleting threads unless we really have to. Especially where opinions have been expressed and things can be learned.